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 Demon Hunter V3, Patch 1.07 - PVP OWNAGE!

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post Feb 1 2013, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Feb 1 2013, 10:31 AM)
for my progression is I found out dh can fight reflect dmg mobs without gloom...
and I have 9 LS
3 from bow
6 from skill....

later try ghom without gloom..
wish me all tha best.
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Please share your findings and your build.
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post Feb 3 2013, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Feb 2 2013, 11:05 PM)
my ehp mode is
70khp
7++ AR
4+++armor (phail here)
170k dps... sad.gif

nah DH is phail char to begin with ...without gloom they are worth less laugh.gif
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70K HP/ 700+ AR / 4K+ Armor.

That is god mode for me, not ehp mode. laugh.gif
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post Feb 7 2013, 03:32 AM

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Feb 2 2013, 11:05 PM)
my ehp mode is
70khp
7++ AR
4+++armor (phail here)
170k dps... sad.gif

nah DH is phail char to begin with ...without gloom they are worth less laugh.gif
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I wonder what's your EHP (let's use D3UP) with such HP/AR/Armor?
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post Feb 7 2013, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Feb 7 2013, 09:09 AM)
Here u go http://d3up.com/b/129787  sweat.gif

use this setup for mp10..
can survive abit MD bus/bug spray
but compare to other tankier DH shocking.gif  ..my setup is nothing sad.gif
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Seriously, 555K EHP, many 200K DPS monks have lower EHP than yours.
Very well built. thumbup.gif
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post Feb 7 2013, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Feb 7 2013, 10:27 AM)
thank you ...thank you
monk alot tankier then DH
and not to forget 30%dmg reduce by default..and also they have alot of dmg reduce skill to mobs skill...
and also unseen dps buff...
I had a monk toon myself...and from 6+k dps my dps can go wooping to 12+k dps...in battle...that is 50% buff there...crazy.
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Honestly speaking, this is not quite true.

DH's gloom -35% damage & -15% GT are so OP.
Not to forget the insane LS% from gloom.

Speaking of damage, 50% buff is more of paper dps.
If you refer to the Ghom@MP10 benchmark that we did, you can see the real damage per second of both monk and dh is quite close.

Those tanky monk & barb have much higher EHP, at least 600K to millions EHP.


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post Feb 7 2013, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Feb 7 2013, 12:18 PM)
yeah agree...60-70k dps Monk/Barbarian way better than 150k dps DH...
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In order to tank, DH must use fast weapon like Calamity.
And combo with GT + perma-gloom.
I find DH can really tank too @ MP10.
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post Feb 11 2013, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(denon91 @ Feb 7 2013, 08:32 PM)
fellow Dhs, about All Resistance and Vitality, which one more important?
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After all, it is EHP that matters.
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post Feb 15 2013, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(fe3doe @ Feb 15 2013, 09:25 AM)
Guys, appreciate your advise on the best@recommended attack speed when using Manti or Cala.. DH noobie here.. =_=
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As many as you can stack. It's something good to have.
The more the merrier.

Perhaps 2.0 for manticore.
And 3.0 for calamity.

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post Feb 15 2013, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(trunksku @ Feb 14 2013, 01:32 PM)
2 soc manticore, 1 insert ruby and 1 insert emerald, is it good? I saw top DPS players use it. 1300++ manti became 1500++ manti. wow!
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Last I checked, this combo gives a better paper dps for my build.
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post Feb 15 2013, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Feb 15 2013, 11:06 AM)
what if you already got high base CC% (example 50%) w/o SS? isn't that you would want to crit higher?
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High CD is certainly welcome. A good thing to have.

As far as paper dps is concerned, marquise ruby + emerald combo on 2-socket manti does give higher dps for my build. I think paper dps does take CD into account.
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post Feb 15 2013, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(cheer83 @ Feb 15 2013, 11:39 AM)
u crafted marquis gem ?  blink.gif
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Already got the plan. But have not crafted one yet.
I use D3UP to simulate.
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post Feb 16 2013, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Feb 16 2013, 09:48 PM)
So 1 ruby + 1 emerald combo is better than 2 emerald combo?
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Yes, if I'm not mistaken, you'd gain 8-10K DPS.
You can use D3UP to simulate.

I bought a cheapo 2-slot INT manticore today, my increase by 11K DPS. laugh.gif
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post Feb 16 2013, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Feb 16 2013, 11:35 PM)
I tried and 1 ruby 1 emerald make me lose DPS. weird
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eh? Did you try marquise ruby?
It should give you nice dps increase.

I also bought a calamity with socket.
Calamity with marquise ruby is so freaking cool. Awesome damage with bola + excellent survivability (just like using cluster grenades nod.gif ). Calamity is so so imba.
I'm seriously thinking to drop manticore for calamity.
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post Feb 17 2013, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Feb 17 2013, 12:13 AM)
Yes I did.. Okay my manti DMg is 894-1247. With marquise ruby it is 894+160 and 1247+160 right?
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No.

I didn't do detailed study on this.
I just observe the damage gain from my manti and calamity with marquise ruby.

Calculation is something like this.

Assuming your Manti has 40% damage.
So, you get from marquise ruby, 160 + 40% = 224
Min damage, 894 + 224 = 1118
Max damage, 1247 + 224 = 1471

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post Feb 18 2013, 10:11 AM

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Any calamity user with marquise ruby?

The dps boost (with ruby) on calamity is way higher than manticore.
And the damage is nice on calamity now.
Plus the fast attack speed & extreme rapid explosion with bola, i just love this now. wub.gif

P/S Quick test. Ghom @ MP10, took me 1min 40sec (100 seconds). Just bola + echoing blast.
I would have got better score if I slotted in another offensive skill.

P/S Used Andariel's Visage. That tells you I dropped alot of EHP.
However, the survivability is much much better @ MP10 key run. Just very awesome.

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post Feb 18 2013, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Feb 18 2013, 11:49 AM)
I have calamity but only 1075 dps.. haven't tried it yet on my Cal. Very painful to spend 5M just to unsocket it from my manticore.
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Not worth it for your case in terms of DPS/damage output.
This is because your 1075DPS calamity can't beat your 1370DPS Manti.

For my case, i have a 1170DPS calamity and 1183 Manti. Quite similar dps rated weapon.
With ruby, my calamity and manti turn to 1592DPS and 1460DPS respectively.
I can see calamity can have good damage output.

However, you can test it to find out the awesomeness of survivability with calamity, without the marquise ruby. laugh.gif
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post Feb 18 2013, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Feb 18 2013, 12:15 PM)
Yeah, I'm itching to see how much of a buff it is on calamity. I really enjoy using calamity. The AS is just awesome but wouldn't you have to subtitute other gears with CD for the loss of 100% CD from emerald?
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To sacrifice additional 100% CD or not, I think it's just paper dps.
My concern is the real damage instead of paper dps.
So I used ghom@MP10 as benchmark.

My Manti gives more paper DPS, 211K DPS (took 125 seconds to kill Ghom) .
My Calamity only has 200K DPS (100 seconds to kill Ghom).

But it seems the Calamity can kill a lot faster than my Manti.
Plus, better survivability.
I think it is good replacement.
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post Feb 19 2013, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(peinsama @ Feb 19 2013, 08:39 AM)
saw a demon hunter using a skill where it keeps exploding with a big ass blast with some fancy big chinese or japanese word coming out everytime when the skill explode. What skill is that, legolases?
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Marked for death? hmm.gif
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post Feb 19 2013, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(peinsama @ Feb 19 2013, 09:10 AM)
Hmmm not sure. All i know, each explosion will come out the same 'word'. It's a big ass explosion though.

Maybe its a combination of skills?
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I think it's 2 different skill.

Is this the "word"?
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/class/demon-hun...arked-for-death
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post Feb 19 2013, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(peinsama @ Feb 19 2013, 09:23 AM)
Yeah that's the word! But the word is amplified into a large one as an explosion occurs. If im not mistaken, the user is using a hand crossbow. Not sure if that helps....
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Marked for death is to mark the enemy or area (depends on which rune you use) so that additional damage taken by the target.

Explosion, it could be skills like spike trap, bola shot or grenades.

It's combination of 2-3 skills.

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