http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/BakKutT...87/hero/1831829

should i change my rings and helm to CHD and +CA damage ?
or change both rings to CDR ? still have not found any bombadier yet..
Might change my shoulder to CDR too.

btw how much sentry dam are u guys doing ?
mine doing around 18-22m atm

This post has been edited by rickrick: Jun 17 2014, 10:56 AM

Using 29.xx% here
30% or more should be nice..

My cluster arrow from sentry around 32m if not mistaken, multishot 12m
With harrinton belt is extra 132%

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/JAYworm...3/hero/41819040

On CDR topic, I had the option to roll cdr or ats off for my gloves; would it better to have cdr instead? I.e. dex, cdr, crit, cdm for mara build. Cause ats is useful to speed up sentries attack no?

I found a decent Kridershot yesterday! Just need to roll loh to %dmg.

Any build revolves around Kridershot?

will reroll rings to chd then

The T6 community I'm in requires 25%+. I have 35% and it still feels too slow

Hey guys checkout my xbow. Is this a good end game xbow?

Roll ias if you havent got tasker... Once you have tasker its no point having ias anymore...ok have abit... LoL
Tasker will boost more ias on sentry. The 7% ias on glove is nice to see on paper dps.

2x% cdr is very easy to get... ( paragon gives 10, diamond gem give 13%)other can get from quiver, shoulder, etc..
Here what i found on my male DH
Initial it have 32.xx% but when i equip a 10% cdr xbow it only goes up to 38.99%.. I assume that is the cap of cdr??

This post has been edited by lksing78: Jun 17 2014, 04:16 PM

Thanks. I have total 26.76% (with a diamond on helm).
Hope it's enough.

boss, you cant just calculate CDR like this.
cdr isn't an additive stat, it is a multiplicative stat instead.

you may refer to some useful online CDR calculator to check what is the possible cdr stat you can stack from gears:
http://www.bannedofgamers.com/index.php?cdr/

Aiseh patutlah...
thank dreaming for point this out....

seems everyone's end game DH is 6p marauder bonus... and everyone is going for a slow 1hander...

some testing done on with Custom engineering (max 3 sentries), and only 1 shot fired from main char:-

2h xbow + archfiend quiver:-
Ghom test T6 - 38 seconds



Two 1h bow:-
Ghom test T6 - 39 seconds


just saying, more options for you (i.e, i could include another nat gear for bonus)... just don't pair 1h xbow with quiver!

WOw great wlcling

But it would be better if you just compare using normal weapon and not the extra buff like Calamity..It wont be fair fight againt other weapon..Ok since you given the idea of this ,here I post the damage done on my Arcane Barb and Nat Slayer.

Hmmm here's my decent DH vs Ghom in T6

2H xbow + quiver


the weapon


and here using 1H+ same quiver


the weapon


I let the viewer to be judge of this...

This post has been edited by lksing78: Jun 18 2014, 01:26 AM

Noob question on weapon:

From the findings above, optimized pairing would be
1. 2h + quiver
Or
2. 2x 1h weapon?

I'm pairing 1h weapon with bombardier currently
I like the vault effect on dan spite

I think 2Hxbow and 1H are quite close to each other, looking at the video.

How about 2 x 1H?

I don think by equipping 1h x 2xbow will be better.
I'll lost the ability to cast 5 sentry (in theory 5 same DH that stand still) from equiping bombadier quiver.

But no harm try.. Killing time will be longer by prediction.

Agree with @lksing78 1h xbows on sentry build is a dps loss as just from casual observation 2h xbow, the sentries hit harder being the fact that sentries follow your main weapon damage range gap.

Looking at wlcling's weapon post, you can see typical high end 1h xbow dmg range is 1.2k-2.2k; 2h bow is 1.4k-2.5k (2.7k dps kridershot); 2h xbow is 2k-2.6k (2.6k dps hellrack). So kebarangkalian of your sentries on firing harder and more kaboom for your buck, is higher on average for 2h xbow due to a smaller high damage range.

And yeah you lose the extra sentries by not using the rucksack. 2 sens.

This post has been edited by jaychow: Jun 18 2014, 06:01 PM

Well, I'm just sharing it's may not that be that bad a gimp on damage if you go on alternatives rather than the standard 2h xbow with quiver setup. But if you are a harringtons user, then it must be 2h xbow.

If you are playing on lower torments with a group, perhaps it's better to equip a calamity and nats slayer (multishot lays m4d to every creep and nats combo gives hell lots of discipline). You could run faster with this setup as you also don't need to lay 5 sentries.

Note in my testing of two one-handers, I'm only using a 115% emerald for one of my bows

I have not tested 1h with quiver as instead of the normal 20+mill crit, it gives me avg 12mill crit so I didn't bother testing, I'm surprised with lksing's tests!! Perhaps it shoots faster.

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