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post Jun 4 2014, 11:07 AM

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Hi sifu DHs,

just started my lvl 70 dh last week and Krider dropped on me yesterday (along with a mara glove, bombardier rucksack and T&T) rclxm9.gif life was good. Krider was average but I'll take it, Should I reroll:

1. +1044-1264 Arcane damage to higher range?
2. roll out %chance area dmg to +10% dmg? That would give me 2514 dps

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I run sentries, so does sentries take the +10% into account on my weapon damage? Thanks all for advice notworthy.gif

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post Jun 4 2014, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(dreaming @ Jun 4 2014, 11:25 AM)
congratz bro.

my kridershot is similar to yours, found it at 2.2k base dmg, and i re-rolled the elemental dmg to higher range resulted 2.5k dps:
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if i remember correctly, the elemental dmg could roll up to 1199-1499. you can do some math to calculate the possible outcome. i think both will give you almost the same result.

apart from that, sentry should take the +10% into account.
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You are right, if I reroll elemental damage with a similar range as yours, will result around 2.5k-ish dps; however will lose the chance for %area damage if I roll for straight 10%dmg and result 2514 dps max.

Looks like the better deal is to reroll the elemental damage, so have 2.5k dps AND %chance area dmg; almost though +10%dmg will be the obvious. Thanks for sharing your better Krider sample too thumbup.gif

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post Jun 4 2014, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jun 4 2014, 01:02 PM)
Wow..wat a beast!!!!!

Gratz doubleukay....
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And I though I was lucky *yesterday*.. GG sweat.gif

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post Jun 9 2014, 11:25 AM

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Am collecting Mara, left the head and chest piece ... at crossroads if should I keep fire or go physical damage for the pet and sentry damage? I got t&t, cinders, magefist. Fire not doing justice to pets so would the switch to broadside, shooting stars worth it to arsenal + load for bear?

Or heck even lightning stun build.

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post Jun 10 2014, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Jun 9 2014, 08:21 PM)
Hai Jay Chow

You can refer to my noob setup for tower defend build ya.. sweat.gif

So when can i get ur latest album  brows.gif  brows.gif

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/lksing7...37/hero/5897671
WAh WAH WAAAAAHHHH ayam ts de ho!!!! laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Like the glass of life synergy with reaper's and weasel grab... mmm maybe try that tonight.

Saw your build not running hate generator, so just pet and sentry attacks? You have my latest bad karaoke album whistling.gif
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post Jun 11 2014, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Jun 10 2014, 08:49 PM)
ehhh hatred generator ah... hmm.gif

AHHHH  icon_idea.gif pls watch this video done by our legendary DH ,the ONE and OnlywKkaY...see how she/he drop the mighty siedge breaker without laying a single finger in T6 not solo but in group and all the other member die ( so that would make the game more then T6 cause of the monster buff in group play)

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3250590

PS can i get ur signature album rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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After 2.0.6 went live, tried your build, throw away kridershot/frost arrows and use 2h xbox without hate generator and rely on reaper's wraps.

OK I can see how bad the sentry 'bug' is with elemental arrow combo. Now using MS + CA only it fires like a boss + harrington + companion howl ... mobs GG shocking.gif

PSS... no time to release album, tengah busy demonhunter-ing ph34r.gif
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post Jun 11 2014, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Jun 11 2014, 03:13 PM)
For single boss fight you can try switch MS to impale.. Impale have good dps output also... One of the reason why i do physical build...

Impale rune
Impact- 50% stun and knockback... Useful in boss fight.

Grievous wound- crit hit add 130%dmg...more dmg the merrier...
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Running fire now cause of SoJ borrowed from my firemonk; will switch over physical tonight and see how it plays out and hopefully end my fire vs physical debate. Thanks icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 12 2014, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(Kerry1136 @ Jun 12 2014, 12:16 AM)
Just finished RoS @ reached Lvl70...any tips / recommendations for a DH?

Currently using cluster arrows though...not sure what are the build/setup.

And also recommendations of places to mass farm for legendaries?
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Currently the popular end game T6 build is sentry/pet Mara6 + 2h xbow which gives all your sentries superior firepower (shoot your hatred spenders also) with the elemental flavouring of your choice (fire/physical/lightning/poison).

For starters, go fire as it has the highest single damage output for hatred spending as you don't have your multiple pets/sentries yet. Andy, cindercoat, magefist, SoJ gives you those elements. Serrated arrows decent for fire hatred generator, or Entangling shot: JiS for slowing mobs. For aoe either CA: Loaded for Bear or MS Arsenal. Pick companion wolf/bat and Turret spitfire/guardian. For defense/kiting can use Vault: tumble and Smoke screen: healing vapors. You will feel squishy at this point till you get Mara4.

Later on once you have Marauder 4 piece (3 if you on RoRG) thats where the pet fun starts(unlock to use all pet abilities); 6 piece is where your sentries start firing your hatred spenders.You are still squishy but GG. Good luck thumbup.gif Disclaimer: this is just one playstyle, there is melee knifer; strafe rocketman and other builds out there, so experiment and see what's yours.

Best place to farm legendaries? Rifting at high Torment. All leg drops are RNG except for bounty cache specific items like RoRG.

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post Jun 12 2014, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(wintzen @ Jun 12 2014, 04:17 PM)
Kinda like my current setup with pets, Danetta and Fan of Knives. Still looking for that elusive RRoG and Kridershot.
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Can check out your build on fan of knifes? Have the belt so need to go figure.

Am looking forward for Chanon Bolter, Windforce and Calamity to complete my full bow collection. sweat.gif The hardest part of the collection.
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post Jun 12 2014, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(Kerry1136 @ Jun 12 2014, 06:39 PM)
Thanks what about passive skill?
I'm using ...sharpshooter, ambush, archer, single out though...

Sorry might be new with abbreviations but what is RNG, RORG, etc...

I'm currently playing bounty mode but I realize once finish one bouty and if u exit game it will refreshed again...
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For survival-bility Perfectionist and awareness are staples and almost perma slot at high torment. Popular passives are blood vengeance, steady aim (good in groups), cull the weak (if you running slow attacks), custom engineering, ballistics, ambush (for solo), tactical advantage.

RNG = random number generator; meaning total random drop anywhere, anytime
RoRG = ring of royal grandeur, one of the most wanted ring in game

Yeap, bounties will reset after you exit game, basically farm rift key fragments so you can unlock rift mode.

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post Jun 16 2014, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(faidz85 @ Jun 16 2014, 01:38 PM)
Hi all,

I am a new demon hunter who just got the M6 bonus. Here is my profile:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Zooch-6759/hero/36253304

I would love to know what I can do to improve my DH. I know the weapon is so-so ad I have an arcane barb with 25xx weapon damage. But I prefer this bow since the difference in aspd is huge (1.51 vs 1.91).

I am also considering gambling for a chest piece and opening up the glove slot for my 10% cc magefist or the boots or helm for a second piece Natalya's. Is this a good idea?

Any help would be appreciated.
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My opinion and recommendation; perhaps other sifus could give better advice. Immediate upgrade:

1. Helm reroll vit to +15% cluster arrows; assuming CA + sentries is your main dmg output
2. Reroll shoulders vit to +15% sentries also
3. You vit 500k hp generally high (some DH run with 300-400k hp) so if can roll your rucksack vit to +15% sentries (tough roll koz quiver can roll any skills)
4. Swap in 2 or 3 diamonds for pants/chest ... so you can live with lower hp.
5. try 2h xbow; the dmg range is smaller so your sentries will consistently hit harder

Things to get/aim for:
1. SoJ with Fire + crit chance/crit dmg
2. Quadfecta neck - Fire, crit cc, cdm, dex/ats.
3. Cindercoat with +15% sentries w 3 sockets
4. Look for trifecta mara gloves dex, cc, cdm, ats
5. Maybe a better shoulders with dex, vit, +15% sentries, cdr or AR

And GG thumbup.gif
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post Jun 17 2014, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Jun 17 2014, 01:10 AM)
For me... For Sentry build.

Buff companion skill- cause they are there most of the time.. Folllow you every where.. Instant dmg done when spoted mobs. These little guy can help you do dmg.. Wolf, 2 ferret, bat, raven, boar, spider and raven.. My pet can peck from 2m - 5m max crit dmg each.  (not from harrington buff).. Not much but at fast speed it can take down a single elite in few sec.

Buff Cluster Arrow- this is your main damage dealer.. No other hatred spender skill is higher then this... So buff them.. This is no brainer.

Reduce Cool down- for sentry this is important to cast them out faster,  even 1 sec fast can kill alot of thing.. Choose CDR instead of ias.. Credit to wKkaY on this for open my eye on this.

BTW nat slayer drop for me last night.. Not as epic but have 10% dmg on both brows.gif
Still looking for 10%dmg 2H xbow... Really hard this one..
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On CDR topic, I had the option to roll cdr or ats off for my gloves; would it better to have cdr instead? I.e. dex, cdr, crit, cdm for mara build. Cause ats is useful to speed up sentries attack no?
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post Jun 18 2014, 05:33 PM

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Agree with @lksing78 1h xbows on sentry build is a dps loss as just from casual observation 2h xbow, the sentries hit harder being the fact that sentries follow your main weapon damage range gap.

Looking at wlcling's weapon post, you can see typical high end 1h xbow dmg range is 1.2k-2.2k; 2h bow is 1.4k-2.5k (2.7k dps kridershot); 2h xbow is 2k-2.6k (2.6k dps hellrack). So kebarangkalian of your sentries on firing harder and more kaboom for your buck, is higher on average for 2h xbow due to a smaller high damage range.

And yeah you lose the extra sentries by not using the rucksack. 2 sens.

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post Jun 19 2014, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Jun 19 2014, 07:23 AM)
There goes my strafe build to drain...

What next since 1 dex = 1 armor

Patch 2.2
DH can also equip 2h flail and shield..pew pew pew.
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Actually I am looking forward to a viable 'melee' DH ninja build(fan of knifes?) ... looks quite badass with a shard of hate equipped bruce.gif
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post Jun 19 2014, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(wlcling @ Jun 18 2014, 06:57 PM)
Well, I'm just sharing it's may not that be that bad a gimp on damage if you go on alternatives rather than the standard 2h xbow with quiver setup. But if you are a harringtons user, then it must be 2h xbow.

If you are playing on lower torments with a group, perhaps it's better to equip a calamity and nats slayer (multishot lays m4d to every creep and nats combo gives hell lots of discipline). You could run faster with this setup as you also don't need to lay 5 sentries.

Note in my testing of two one-handers, I'm only using a 115% emerald for one of my bows biggrin.gif

I have not tested 1h with quiver as instead of the normal 20+mill crit, it gives me avg 12mill crit so I didn't bother testing, I'm surprised with lksing's tests!! Perhaps it shoots faster.
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Agree of the choices, just hate to say that to be viable (ez mode) on T6 at the moment is mara6 + 2h xbow. With the current build aoe is imba, but can't do jack on single targeted dps where sometimes goblins live another day cause my sentries are not paying attention and hit other stuff doh.gif

Still don't have my calamity yet; would like to try the aoe m4d combo thumbup.gif
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post Jun 20 2014, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Jun 19 2014, 05:45 PM)
I play DH full time and never get Kindershot.. Chanon bolter
Hex pants, witching..

So I feel you bro. sad.gif
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Got my hexpants dropped on my monk; witching hour donated from clanmember; so yeah sometimes you have to count other people/toons' luck. hmm.gif
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post Jun 23 2014, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Jun 21 2014, 11:23 AM)
hi guys. got this Mara chest while playing with my crusader..

my question is with stats to reroll to 3 OS, Sentry or AR? thanks biggrin.gif
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Thats a GG chest, keep sentry as that's a must have for mara sentry build. Roll off AR for 3 socks. I want this cry.gif and kadala instead gave me goldnuts and batman cloaks instead vmad.gif
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post Jun 23 2014, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(dreaming @ Jun 23 2014, 11:01 AM)
Hi DHs,
regarding to the 6pcs marauder set bonus, do you think that using 1 hatred spender is better than 2or3 spenders or vice versa?

i mean, since the sentry can only shot 1 spender at 1 time, so is it better we choose only the highest dmg spender like cluster arrow to maximize the dmg output?
what's your thought?  hmm.gif
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Very indepth review on 6pc Mara and hatred spender combo. You can read it up on the technical analysis here.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/12674389831#1

Simplified general conclusion:
1. 6pc Marauder's set is bugged w/ hatred spender combinations that only cycle hatred spenders at 1.00 aps
2. Each hatred spender has their own cooldown, and is activated in a specific order.
3. Current best combo that's not 'bugged' and follow your aps is CA + MS, in other words fires more often.

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post Jun 23 2014, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(fabvader @ Jun 23 2014, 03:07 PM)
Sifu sifu... Pls rate my demon hunter...

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/FabVade...6/hero/27123801

Anything that can improve further? Btw, my dex should be more than 9k.. but dunno why they put 8.6k...
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1. Would suggest crafting crimson belt and pants; the CDR helps for your companion and vengeance/sentries. Replace belt with witchin hour/harrington once you have Mara pants/boots.
2. suggest use spitfire sentries if you are going Mara route soon.
3. Roll 3 sockets on your chest for more gem. But if you go fire, cindercoat is the better choice (if you can get another Mara piece).
4. You need 50% crit; roll helm for crit > %skill if below 50% crit. RoRG reroll LpH to 6% crit.
5. CA is our main burst damage, reroll boots for % CA.

Good luck.

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post Jun 24 2014, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Jun 24 2014, 02:04 PM)
Seem to me that TnT and Bombadier is the most hard to loot.
So far i only loot 1 tnt and 2 bombadier
Gladiator gaunlet and magefist, other useless quiver drop like rain.
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I had 5 bombadier drops on my short time as dh (but again got tonnes of other junk quivers), gave 2 away to clannies; from datamined loot drop rate bombadier is just slightly rare-er than other quivers. T&T is very rare, think its 2.18% for DH same as Shard of Hate/Kridershot.

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