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post Jan 17 2013, 04:26 PM, updated 13y ago

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KM1 EAST @ BUKIT JALIL BY BERJAYA
Special preview on Jan 19 & 20, 2013 at Berjaya's Bukit Jalil Property Gallery.
Price : 1.06m (min) to 2.693m (max)
5% rebate during preview.
DIBS during construction period.
Legal fees for S&P borne by developer.




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post Jan 17 2013, 04:28 PM

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Fuyoh, 1M ... From what size?
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QUOTE(nkhong @ Jan 17 2013, 04:28 PM)
Fuyoh, 1M ... From what size?
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I hv booked 3 units under yr name...  drool.gif
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Sell kidney, sell backside, sell everything also kenot get the downpayments ..... Can transfer to your name rclxms.gif ... Is your territory ... U must support at least 3 units ...
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I think Twin Arkz already "sial liao", but this one even higher.

2nd Mont Kiara???
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post Jan 17 2013, 05:04 PM

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How is KM1 west doing now ? No, wait, not relevant Q. If phase 1 sell fast, developer increase phase 2 price, if phase1 sell slow, developer increase phase2 price to pull phase1 sales. But i did hear few months ago from staff's mouth that sales is slow ..
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post Jan 17 2013, 06:02 PM

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post Jan 17 2013, 06:03 PM

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cin sin meh. 1M for a Condo in BJ.

At KLCC oklah.
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post Jan 17 2013, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(22222222 @ Jan 17 2013, 04:42 PM)
I think Twin Arkz already "sial liao", but this one even higher.

2nd Mont Kiara???
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the 1st so called siao one was the treez, tat was already 1 mil for villa,,,
1 mil projects will b a common thing in bj very soon,,
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post Jan 17 2013, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Jan 17 2013, 06:29 PM)
the 1st so called siao one was the treez, tat was already 1 mil for villa,,,
1 mil projects will b a common thing in bj very soon,,
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Cheap! Buy more! U will regret not buying this when u see malton launches
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QUOTE(Cocoon @ Jan 17 2013, 06:53 PM)
Cheap! Buy more! U will regret not buying this when u see malton launches
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already got liao in bj,, hehe
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RM 1.06 mil could be the price of cheapest unit after 5% bumi discount / rebates, where essentially means, for non bumi buyer, the price could be approx RM 1.11mil onwards from lowest floor unit ...

I did called Berjaya office several times today to find out the sizes / density but none of the calls pick up by the staff.

Anyone has idea of the sizes?

Based on the density of 178 units and another 24 units villas, the pricing of RM 1mil+, the smallest unit should be 1,600 or 1,700 sf feet ( Making it less than RM 650 psf before 5% discount ). Anything less than 1500 sf, would be the making of RM 700++ psf before discount, which would raise a new benchmark of big size condo in BJ, much ahead of Twin Arkz.

I heard it was initially suppose to be 200+ units condo + 24 units villas based on the previous master plan, but then deducted to 178 units condo early last year and currently, sources said, Seng Kung really wanna made this piece of luxury living with bigger size and cut shorter to 154 units only, while the 4 storey villas remain 24 units, and price approx RM 2mil onwards.

Just wondering as sources even could reveal it might be sharing the same facilities as KM1 West, which brings lesser exclusivity. Summore, if really wanna be exclusive and luxury, it shouldn't be name KM1 East which relevant to 2nd chapter of KM 1 West, which sold RM 550 psf onwards before discount.





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hhhmmmmm.... should i?
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post Jan 17 2013, 09:41 PM

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Why e name is km1. What is the meaning of km?
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QUOTE(Cocoon @ Jan 17 2013, 06:53 PM)
Cheap! Buy more! U will regret not buying this when u see malton launches
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Bro, any idea when malton project launch?
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post Jan 17 2013, 10:31 PM

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Good luck to the seller, and more to the buyer.
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post Jan 17 2013, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jan 17 2013, 08:30 PM)
RM 1.06 mil could be the price of cheapest unit after 5% bumi discount / rebates, where essentially means, for non bumi buyer, the price could be approx RM 1.11mil onwards from lowest floor unit ...

I did called Berjaya office several times today to find out the sizes / density but none of the calls pick up by the staff.

Anyone has idea of the sizes?

Based on the density of 178 units and another 24 units villas, the pricing of RM 1mil+, the smallest unit should be 1,600 or 1,700 sf feet ( Making it less than RM 650 psf before 5% discount ). Anything less than 1500 sf, would be the making of RM 700++ psf before discount, which would raise a new benchmark of big size condo in BJ, much ahead of Twin Arkz.

I heard it was initially suppose to be 200+ units condo + 24 units villas based on the previous master plan, but then deducted to 178 units condo early last year and currently, sources said, Seng Kung really wanna made this piece of luxury living with bigger size and cut shorter to 154 units only, while the 4 storey villas remain 24 units, and price approx RM 2mil onwards.

Just wondering as sources even could reveal it might be sharing the same facilities as KM1 West, which brings lesser exclusivity. Summore, if really wanna be exclusive and luxury, it shouldn't be name KM1 East which relevant to 2nd chapter of KM 1 West, which sold RM 550 psf onwards before discount.
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Most of the developers are shifting to smaller size unit, what i have said is they are BOLD!

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huh.... 1.06M Sell ass also need to sell 10 years
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Link villas in The Treez was sold at 2.35 mil, size 23'x52', 4-storey with lift. Fully sold out.
Another MK is in the making..

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post Jan 17 2013, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Jan 17 2013, 11:29 PM)
Link villas in The Treez was sold at 2.35 mil, size 23'x52', 4-storey with lift. Fully sold out.
Another MK is in the making..
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Plenty of room to push up the price... Seng Kung still got the mixed development project near golf club, by then price will increase further...
Jalil city got 6 blocks of condo in total (exclude soho) the price could well be higher than all these... then WCT oug area should not be cheap either..
And finally the Dai D - KM2 will reveal itself
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post Jan 17 2013, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(Cocoon @ Jan 17 2013, 11:06 PM)
Most of the developers are shifting to smaller size unit, what i have said is they are BOLD!
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I couldnt understand why they would like to launch with bigger size and hence the absolute price is so high at RM 1.06m onwards.

Even KM1 West launched it medium big size onwards had taken a long time to move esp for the second block they sold.

Maybe they see the big sizes of 1,800 sf and above are rare items in BJ, so they wanna be to make it the Jewel of the BJ.

Let's see how it fare against Twin Arkz.

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jan 17 2013, 11:49 PM)
I couldnt understand why they would like to launch with bigger size and hence the absolute price is so high at RM 1.06m onwards.

Even KM1 West launched it medium big size onwards had taken a long time to move esp for the second block they sold.

Maybe they see the big sizes of 1,800 sf and above are rare items in BJ, so they wanna be to make it the Jewel of the BJ.

Let's see how it fare against Twin Arkz.
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i just couldn't believe it. 1.06 mil?!
Covillea terrace unit is only selling 980k
Savanna 2 duplex is only selling 1.15 mil
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QUOTE(elfness @ Jan 18 2013, 12:54 AM)
i just couldn't believe it. 1.06 mil?!
Covillea terrace unit is only selling 980k
Savanna 2 duplex is only selling 1.15 mil
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Hmm, we actually haven't know the actual size, layout, spec and facilities yet, why not?

IMHO, KM 1 West / East could have better location than Covillea / Savanna ... Starting point at RM 1.06mil might be looks a bit scary off and heavier than TAz, but let's see what they are offering to justify the sales tag.

Maybe this time, Seng Kung offers much attractive facade, decent layout and wonder facilities compare to it's previous products?

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jan 18 2013, 01:00 AM)
Hmm, we actually haven't know the actual size, layout, spec and facilities yet, why not?

IMHO, KM 1 West / East could have better location than Covillea / Savanna ... Starting point at RM 1.06mil might be looks a bit scary off and heavier than TAz, but let's see what they are offering to justify the sales tag.

Maybe this time, Seng Kung offers much attractive facade, decent layout and wonder facilities compare to it's previous products?

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Seng Kung at least should give some space for flipper to make some money ma
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post Jan 18 2013, 07:21 AM

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QUOTE(yankicip @ Aug 11 2012, 01:31 PM)
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Any info on link villa, Size n price? The treez link villa seems small based on UFO info. I rather buy a semi d in bj with same price.
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QUOTE(Cocoon @ Jan 18 2013, 07:21 AM)
Any info on link villa, Size n price? The treez link villa seems small based on UFO info. I rather buy a semi d in bj with same price.
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Called up and informed that minimum size is ard 1800ft and price start from RM 570/sq ft, every 2 floors up increase 3k.. so its look reasoanable on per sqft basis but because of big size.. so price > 1 mil.. as for villa, its ard 2200 sq ft, price from RM 800/sq ft... all with private lift, minimum 3 car parks.. earlier on was quite keen on low rise villa, good view with direct golf fronting.. but the price is too much to digest,, so have to give a miss..
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As far as I know, for high rise built-up ranging from 1873 to 2031 sqft and low-rise 2200+ to 2400+.
1.06M is the price for 1873sqft unit located at lower floor and limited view. Only few units available.
KM1 west left around 10 units unsold
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tsk tsk tsk....
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see whether this round they still 'berjaya' or 'fail'. kekeke.
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QUOTE(yeap99 @ Jan 18 2013, 04:52 PM)
As far as I know, for high rise built-up ranging from 1873 to 2031 sqft and low-rise 2200+ to 2400+.
1.06M is the price for 1873sqft unit located at lower floor and limited view. Only few units available.
KM1 west left around 10 units unsold
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Built up is over-sized. Own stay is ok but purely investment, better think carefully. Hard to find buyers next time.

Already the KR1/2 14xx sf unit is considered over-sized to me.
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QUOTE(Adorable @ Jan 18 2013, 05:29 PM)
what is Seng Kung?
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QUOTE(skng03 @ Jan 18 2013, 05:34 PM)
cantonese...= success = berjay
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QUOTE(yeap99 @ Jan 18 2013, 04:52 PM)
As far as I know, for high rise built-up ranging from 1873 to 2031 sqft and low-rise 2200+ to 2400+.
1.06M is the price for 1873sqft unit located at lower floor and limited view. Only few units available.
KM1 west left around 10 units unsold
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Hmm, 1873 sq feet to 2,031 sq feet is huge enough to be rated as luxury and higher end living condo, slightly bigger than I expected at 1,700 or 1,800 sq feet onwards ...

RM 1.06mil could be the published price after 5% discount, where it stands at lowest floor, from RM 566 psf and should averaging RM 600 psf .... making itself quite competitive against The Treez and Twin Arkz, both smaller packs size GBI development and start with sizes 1409 sf and 720 sf ...

The pricing of min RM 1.06mil is indeed very high, looks untested in BJ, but based on pricing per sq feet, from RM 566 psf are quite decent, though it is not cheap on a bigger sizes but based on current launches in similar good location or other area, exclusivity and, arguably the best location of it's BJ itself , I see it's quite challenging ...

If BJ really wanted to be a MK wannabe, I think KM1 East had made the first risky move of being the first condo with benchmark of min RM 1mil condo and all large size units guaranteed an expensive monthly maintenance fee where only the riches and profiles fit it.

Decent family living looking for decent condo, lower density, greenery of golf, seeking for space instead of higher end facilities / promises, might found KM 1 East quite valuable but investment wise, the price point and sizes really need some good holding power to dispose it even higher price ...

Got to find out more about the facade, layout and facilities offered, but since it's by Berjaya, I feel nothing much to shout about compare to Exsim's products.

Probably it is do-able ... hahhaha ...



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I think this project Seng Kung intends to bring it to overseas... according to rumors.
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QUOTE(Cocoon @ Jan 18 2013, 07:21 AM)
Any info on link villa, Size n price? The treez link villa seems small based on UFO info. I rather buy a semi d in bj with same price.
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Wahh, Cocoon boss, where you copy the post and replied it here?

If you referring the linked villa for The Treez, I think the size is standard 4,344 sq ft or 4,434 sq feet ( forgot which dy but one size only due to only few units ) and there are no concrete info on the price due to, heard some taikors said all the units sold to relatives and friends, heard ard RM 1.8 to RM 2mil ...


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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jan 19 2013, 01:08 AM)
Wahh, Cocoon boss, where you copy the post and replied it here?

If you referring the linked villa for The Treez, I think the size is standard 4,344 sq ft or 4,434 sq feet ( forgot which dy but one size only due to only few units ) and there are no concrete info on the price due to, heard some taikors said all the units sold to relatives and friends, heard ard RM 1.8 to RM 2mil ...
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Ya most of the link villa units were bought by the owners. Few units to outsiders. I think is 2 mil+.

Let's go km1 be the rich n famous in southern part of kl. I got to work today so have to wait till tomolo to lclc.

Seng kung u got balls! It's time to regain urself to be the tkttt in bj.

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Wat is the new condo ard this BJ area? Looks interesting.... I hav friend bought km1 west. 850k highfloor. 1400sqft.

QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jan 19 2013, 01:08 AM)
Wahh, Cocoon boss, where you copy the post and replied it here?

If you referring the linked villa for The Treez, I think the size is standard 4,344 sq ft or 4,434 sq feet ( forgot which dy but one size only due to only few units ) and there are no concrete info on the price due to, heard some taikors said all the units sold to relatives and friends, heard ard RM 1.8 to RM 2mil ...
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QUOTE(noblebaby @ Jan 19 2013, 08:28 AM)
Wat is the new condo ard this BJ area? Looks interesting.... I hav friend bought km1 west. 850k highfloor. 1400sqft.
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Plenty, bj can be devided to 2 parts. First near stadium second near future jalil city. The gravity seems shifted to jalil city here lately.

Near stadium got the newly completed covilea by Berjaya. Near jalil city under con are the treez n twin arkz by exim group, km1 east west by Berjaya. Jalil city and paradigm oug will have few blocks soon.

Bj wannabe (at bukit oug) such as z residence by trinity , kiara residence 1&2 are under con. Future u will have rainz n seedz by exsim.


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QUOTE(Adorable @ Jan 18 2013, 06:11 PM)
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jan 19 2013, 12:53 AM)
Hmm, 1873 sq feet to 2,031 sq feet is huge enough to be rated as luxury and higher end living condo, slightly bigger than I expected at 1,700 or 1,800 sq feet onwards ...

RM 1.06mil could be the published price after 5% discount, where it stands at lowest floor, from RM 566 psf and should averaging RM 600 psf .... making itself quite competitive against The Treez and Twin Arkz, both smaller packs size GBI development and start with sizes 1409 sf and 720 sf ...

The pricing of min RM 1.06mil is indeed very high, looks untested in BJ, but based on pricing per sq feet, from RM 566 psf are quite decent, though it is not cheap on a bigger sizes but based on current launches in similar good location or other area, exclusivity and, arguably the best location of it's BJ itself , I see it's quite challenging ...

If BJ really wanted to be a MK wannabe, I think KM1 East had made the first risky move of being the first condo with benchmark of min RM 1mil condo and all large size units guaranteed an expensive monthly maintenance fee where only the riches and profiles fit it.

Decent family living looking for decent condo, lower density, greenery of golf, seeking for space instead of higher end facilities / promises, might found KM 1 East quite valuable but investment wise, the price point and sizes really need some good holding power to dispose it even higher price ...

Got to find out more about the facade, layout and facilities offered, but since it's by Berjaya, I feel nothing much to shout about compare to Exsim's products.

Probably it is do-able ... hahhaha ...
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I&P who launched 8 Petaling (Sri Petaling) 2 yrs ago, it has encountered a total failure with average size of 1800sf. (Price reasonable).
I would want to see how success is this KM East, location wise is much better than 8 Petaling.

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For 1800sf, Five stones quite success
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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Jan 19 2013, 09:15 AM)
I&P who launched 8 Petaling (Sri Petaling) 2 yrs ago, it has encountered a total failure with average size of 1800sf. (Price reasonable).
I would want to see how success is this KM East, location wise is much better than 8 Petaling.
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I don't think it will have market locally. Unless they could market it overseas, don't have to be fully taken, as long as it meets a critical number ( say 40% taken by foreign investors ) it will sail through.

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Jan 19 2013, 09:15 AM)
I&P who launched 8 Petaling (Sri Petaling) 2 yrs ago, it has encountered a total failure with average size of 1800sf. (Price reasonable).
I would want to see how success is this KM East, location wise is much better than 8 Petaling.
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And also slight advantage on freehold.

8 petaling sold out aledi?
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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Jan 19 2013, 09:15 AM)
I&P who launched 8 Petaling (Sri Petaling) 2 yrs ago, it has encountered a total failure with average size of 1800sf. (Price reasonable).
I would want to see how success is this KM East, location wise is much better than 8 Petaling.
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Hmm, 8 Petaling did not really attract me with its facade, concept, marketing and almost everything. Looks plain but in the busy Sri Petaling.

I have to say that KM1 West / East location is a lot much better compare to 8 Petaling. Arguably the best among all current highrise series in BJ itself.

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jan 19 2013, 10:55 AM)
Hmm, 8 Petaling did not really attract me with its facade, concept, marketing and almost everything. Looks plain but in the busy Sri Petaling.

I have to say that KM1 West / East location is a lot much better compare to 8 Petaling. Arguably the best among all current highrise series in BJ itself.
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Any chance to parang 8 petaling?
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Just went to km1 east preview, best golf view unit 5 & 6 (2021sqft) at least 70% booked.
Unit 3 & 4 (golf+pool view, 2021sqft) only few booked.
Unit 1 & 2 (1873sqft & city view) few booked as well
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About 30% booked, got one uncle booked 15units…
1.x mil still like go pasar pagi buy sayur
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1.3 million for 2000 sq ft, is this cheap or expensive ?
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QUOTE(APPA @ Jan 19 2013, 02:13 PM)
About 30% booked, got one uncle booked 15units…
1.x mil still like go pasar pagi buy sayur
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QUOTE(APPA @ Jan 19 2013, 02:13 PM)
About 30% booked, got one uncle booked 15units…
1.x mil still like go pasar pagi buy sayur
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How do you know he booked 15 units ? You watched his back ? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(APPA @ Jan 19 2013, 02:13 PM)
About 30% booked, got one uncle booked 15units…
1.x mil still like go pasar pagi buy sayur
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Looking good. Just 3-4 hours into preview already snapped up 30%.

If it can reach 70% by end of tomolo, it would be consider quite good to the BJ market dy.

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jan 19 2013, 03:15 PM)
Looking good. Just 3-4 hours into preview already snapped up 30%.

If it can reach 70% by end of tomolo, it would be consider quite good to the BJ market dy.
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I just came back. This is serious stuff man. Response is good given theses are biggies. Again many buyers are from golf bungalows. Many uncles buying for sons n daughters. I envy them!!!
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QUOTE(Cocoon @ Jan 19 2013, 04:08 PM)
I just came back. This is serious stuff man. Response is good given theses are biggies. Again many buyers are from golf bungalows. Many uncles buying for sons n daughters. I envy them!!!
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Aha! Looks like my prediction comes true.
You need to be in their state of mind to understand why they are buying this development.
Btw, what is in the package? Any ac or kitchen cabinets inclusive?
Congrats to seng kung lor. They did it again.
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QUOTE(Cocoon @ Jan 19 2013, 04:08 PM)
I just came back. This is serious stuff man. Response is good given theses are biggies. Again many buyers are from golf bungalows. Many uncles buying for sons n daughters. I envy them!!!
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Cool.

I never a Berjaya supporter but this KM1 East really attracts me based on all biggies and no small sizes taruh on.

The golf bungalow uncles are no play play one.



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im not in favour of this project due to super duper price but it bring the price of its surrounding projects to the next level. congrats berjaya, u did it again.
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I just came back. This is serious stuff man. Response is good given theses are biggies. Again many buyers are from golf bungalows. Many uncles buying for sons n daughters. I envy them!!!
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How do you know they are golf bungalows uncles ?

I chat with some of them, they are from arena green next door. laugh.gif
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How do you know they are golf bungalows uncles ?

I chat with some of them, they are from arena green next door.  laugh.gif
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next door is green avenue, arena green is opposite stadium .
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How do you know they are golf bungalows uncles ?

I chat with some of them, they are from arena green next door.  laugh.gif
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Simple. I know them.
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next door is green avenue, arena green is opposite stadium .
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What I mean is that, the sales room of KM1 east is next door to arena green.

Uncles come from there to look. whistling.gif
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Simple. I know them.
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Wow ! You know a lot of rich uncles from those bungalows ?
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So, what is the closing sales for Seng Kung on the 1st day?

at 2pm+ was 30% done, any status breach 50% at this hour ?

=)
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So, what is the closing sales for Seng Kung on the 1st day?

at 2pm+ was 30% done, any status breach 50% at this hour ?

=)
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Tomorrow I may go there again. If I go, then I will tell you.

How come you are not buying ?

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So, what is the closing sales for Seng Kung on the 1st day?

at 2pm+ was 30% done, any status breach 50% at this hour ?

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simple mathematics calculation, there are 6 types of high rise, almost 2 types are fully booked. so 2/6 = 33% at 3pm
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Tomorrow I may go there again. If I go, then I will tell you.

How come you are not buying ?
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I wish to go tomorrow and check out the floor plan too and etc but scared no time.

I am only a small division bench kaki. Definitely not among the main player in big league of KM1 East. Lol.

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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Jan 19 2013, 06:35 PM)
What I mean is that, the sales room of KM1 east is next door to arena green.

Uncles come from there to look.  whistling.gif
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oic, I tot u said next door to km1.....sorry I misunderstood yr statement....
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I wonder can you sell at 1.6-1.8mil in 2016 for golf view 2021sf unit supposing you bought today at 1.3mil? Yearly maintenance + sinking fund is about Rm9500.
There will be an abundant of condo projects to be completed in 2015.
Will BJ = MK or MK wannabe?
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I wonder can you sell at 1.6-1.8mil in 2016 for golf view 2021sf unit supposing you bought today at 1.3mil? Yearly maintenance + sinking fund is about Rm9500.
There will be an abundant of condo projects to be completed in 2015.
Will BJ = MK or MK wannabe?
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If rich uncles from the golf bungalows nearby are buying it, then it is safe.

If you are buying for speculation, i think the risk is too high unless you have a lot of cash reserve.

How many people have 1.6 million to buy a condo ? rclxub.gif

Bukit jalil is better than Mont kiara already.

Bukit jalil is the centre of gravity in Klang valley.

Mont kiara don't even have LRT, golf view, stadium and park.

The bukit jalil stadium just blew up fireworks tonight. One year fire fireworks few times.

The calvary church nearby is going to attract a lot of christians.

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How do you know they are golf bungalows uncles ?

I chat with some of them, they are from arena green next door.  laugh.gif
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Arena green -> km1 east. Very big gap upgrade.
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I wonder can you sell at 1.6-1.8mil in 2016 for golf view 2021sf unit supposing you bought today at 1.3mil? Yearly maintenance + sinking fund is about Rm9500.
There will be an abundant of condo projects to be completed in 2015.
Will BJ = MK or MK wannabe?
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It's very tough to predict now, and yes, BJ is might be called as MK wannabe due to a number of highrise under construction where MK had established it's name as the best streets of the finest condos available, thanks to Alan Tong's foundation.

But, don't you see the market of MK had been stagnant and I found something missing in the MK ... I think very soon, BJ could overtake MK ... In most of the new home buyers, attract by the name of Mont Kiara and didn't found the catalyst of BJ or any other area, but seems, people already accepting RM 650 psf and above in other certain areas, such as Ara Damansara, Uptown PJ and few more to list on ...

For the KM1 East, it would be very different situation compare to others such as KM1 West, Twin Arkz and Treez in half upper category compare to KR1/ KR2 / Rainz / ZR / Covillea .... where currently, it was the only condo launch with starting price RM 1mil onwards and the smallest unit was 1,873 sf to 2,031 sf ....

If BJ are really explode into the property hot market by 2016 or 2017, I am not surprise if the 1.3mil unit the riches bought now would reach RM 1.6-1.8mil then, hence, I would say, with their holding power, they can even hold at least 2-3 years vacant and throw to the market at RM 1.8-2.0mil ... bcz the competitor within the BJ corridor was only KM1 East itself due to it's tag of min sizing per unit ...

If the RM 1.3mil unit they bought now and reach RM 1.6mil in 2016, I doubt they will sell.

Twin Arkz and The Treez would play a different role in a more Greenery and Eco Friendly lifestyle living ... but some riches I met, and interviewed do not wanted to buy a 2,000 sf + unit within a condo which comprises smaller sizes, i.e 720 sf unit or 1,300 sf unit but they wanted something all big units only condo for exclusive and privacy profile for each other ...





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Sources say Mont Kiara is coming back slowly... alot of locals are buying subsale suddenly.

Btw the product offering of biggies can do well in suburbs surrounded by Rich Uncles and Aunties as long as it is not highly-densed and must be more modern. I understand alot of Uncles here in Bandar Utama want to buy more "Five Stones-type"... but scarce here (except the outdated 9BU which also can sell slowly).

Some of these Uncles do not need RENTAL to survive.
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jan 20 2013, 01:04 AM)
It's very tough to predict now, and yes, BJ is might be called as MK wannabe due to a number of highrise under construction where MK had established it's name as the best streets of the finest condos available, thanks to Alan Tong's foundation.

But, don't you see the market of MK had been stagnant and I found something missing in the MK ... I think very soon, BJ could overtake MK ... In most of the new home buyers, attract by the name of Mont Kiara and didn't found the catalyst of BJ or any other area, but seems, people already accepting RM 650 psf and above in other certain areas, such as Ara Damansara, Uptown PJ and few more to list on ...

For the KM1 East, it would be very different situation compare to others such as KM1 West, Twin Arkz and Treez in half upper category compare to KR1/ KR2 / Rainz / ZR / Covillea .... where currently, it was the only condo launch with starting price RM 1mil onwards and the smallest unit was 1,873 sf to 2,031 sf ....

If BJ are really explode into the property hot market by 2016 or 2017, I am not surprise if the 1.3mil unit the riches bought now would reach RM 1.6-1.8mil then, hence, I would say, with their holding power, they can even hold at least 2-3 years vacant and throw to the market at RM 1.8-2.0mil ... bcz the competitor within the BJ corridor was only KM1 East itself due to it's tag of min sizing per unit ...

If the RM 1.3mil unit they bought now and reach RM 1.6mil in 2016, I doubt they will sell.

Twin Arkz and The Treez would play a different role in a more Greenery and Eco Friendly lifestyle living ... but some riches I met, and interviewed do not wanted to buy a 2,000 sf + unit within a condo which comprises smaller sizes, i.e 720 sf unit or 1,300 sf unit but they wanted something all big units only condo for exclusive and privacy profile for each other ...
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Pp are accepting 650psf in other certain area?? Only applicable for new launch with package, such as dibs, 10% discount, sub sale market still not tested yet. We have to wait and see how many 650psf condo are doing well wen it VP. Haha
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Looking at the trend going in BJ now, Superlink homes is really a bargain now.
Entire BJ has <800 units landed (Link + SD) only (Esplanad, Jalil Sutera, Seri Jalil, Laman Bayu, The Treez link villas), while Puchong has bout 50,000 units. I dun consider Mutiara Bkt Jalil is a choice one as the location is worst than Bdr Kinrara.
Existing condo in BJ is bout 3,500 units, in coming years, another 4-5 thousands add to this figure, hvn't take into consideration of OUG Parklane, OUG Paradigm and Jalil City development, I predict a total of 20,000 units of strata property by 2020 (BJ-OUG), can the mkt "digest" it? I dunno.
No more new supply for link houses in BJ in the future, the choice is very clear now. Prepare for the worst (crash) to come, any major correction will sure hit highrise, factory and shoplots 1st. Be careful.

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Just came back from the sales office.

As of 12 noon 20 jan 2013, 52 units are sold, so there is around 100 units left of the high rise block.

The most popular wing is the one facing the golf, almost all sold.

40 cents per sq ft for maintenance fees and sinking fund.


I didn't count the low rise block which is around RM 1.8 million each


KM1 has 3 blocks of high rise blocks (2 in KM1 west and 1 in KM1 east) and 1 block of low rise block.



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bascially km1 east is 1 highrise and 1 lowrise.. ??

but really salute this is like a BBB for biggies at a record psft price?...

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Looking at the trend going in BJ now, Superlink homes is really a bargain now.
Entire BJ has <800 units landed (Link + SD) only (Esplanad, Jalil Sutera, Seri Jalil, Laman Bayu, The Treez link villas), while Puchong has bout 50,000 units. I dun consider Mutiara Bkt Jalil is a choice one as the location is worst than Bdr Kinrara.
Existing condo in BJ is bout 3,500 units, in coming years, another 4-5 thousands add to this figure, hvn't take into consideration of OUG Parklane, OUG Paradigm and Jalil City development, I predict a total of 20,000 units of strata property by 2020 (BJ-OUG), can the mkt "digest" it? I dunno.
No more new supply for link houses in BJ in the future, the choice is very clear now. Prepare for the worst (crash) to come, any major correction will sure hit highrise, factory and shoplots 1st. Be careful.
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Amongst all the high rise, I think this km1 east may hold well. All others projects are majority bOught by investors n flippers. This project fenced off investors n speculators and only left with long term investors.
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Amongst all the high rise, I think this km1 east may hold well. All others projects are majority bOught by investors n flippers. This project fenced off investors n speculators and only left with long term investors.
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Concurred with UFO. The gems are landed In bj. Imagine owning a landed in mont kiara!

Second one is commercial, will fly big time too
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Commercial really depends... coz I think BJ is simply not the area for your ordinary char siew fan... and at same time, it is not ready for MK style of lifestyle cafes...
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Sources say Mont Kiara is coming back slowly... alot of locals are buying subsale suddenly.

Btw the product offering of biggies can do well in suburbs surrounded by Rich Uncles and Aunties as long as it is not highly-densed and must be more modern. I understand alot of Uncles here in Bandar Utama want to buy more "Five Stones-type"... but scarce here (except the outdated 9BU which also can sell slowly).

Some of these Uncles do not need RENTAL to survive.
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If people like highrise, Mont Kiara makes sense, the location is superb.

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Jan 20 2013, 11:32 AM)
Looking at the trend going in BJ now, Superlink homes is really a bargain now.
Entire BJ has <800 units landed (Link + SD) only (Esplanad, Jalil Sutera, Seri Jalil, Laman Bayu, The Treez link villas), while Puchong has bout 50,000 units. I dun consider Mutiara Bkt Jalil is a choice one as the location is worst than Bdr Kinrara.
Existing condo in BJ is bout 3,500 units, in coming years, another 4-5 thousands add to this figure, hvn't take into consideration of OUG Parklane, OUG Paradigm and Jalil City development, I predict a total of 20,000 units of strata property by 2020 (BJ-OUG), can the mkt "digest" it? I dunno.
No more new supply for link houses in BJ in the future, the choice is very clear now. Prepare for the worst (crash) to come, any major correction will sure hit highrise, factory and shoplots 1st. Be careful.
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How much is the minimum price for a landed @ Bukit Jalil?

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How much is the minimum price for a landed @ Bukit Jalil?
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Before launch of km1east 1.4m, now 1.8m wink.gif
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Before launch of km1east 1.4m, now 1.8m wink.gif
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seems pricing hovering 1.5mil for intermediate.. those 1.9mil 2mil are corner lots..
http://www.iproperty.com.my/property/searc...=&au=&sby=&ns=1

1.8mil might be abit ambitious in near future..

visited a fren's house in Jalil Sutera, nice quiet place (but wont be long after nearby vacant land gazed for development)...

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I think min RM 1.35mil if u are lucky to get one.

Should be ard RM 1.4mil onwards...

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seems pricing hovering 1.5mil for intermediate.. those 1.9mil 2mil are corner lots..
http://www.iproperty.com.my/property/searc...=&au=&sby=&ns=1

1.8mil might be abit ambitious in near future..

visited a fren's house in Jalil Sutera, nice quiet place (but wont be long after nearby vacant land gazed for development)...
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Jalil Sutera is really a nice place with good security so far ...

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Jalil Sutera is really a nice place with good security so far ...
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my fren bought us a short tour around his neighborhood.. wow, this place is flooded with rich uncle, especially those corner units.. some built private swimming pool while 1 of it even build a new 3 storey house beside the existing one with connected bridge in between.. the corner lot land is just that huge that can build another house.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Jan 20 2013, 03:05 PM)
my fren bought us a short tour around his neighborhood.. wow, this place is flooded with rich uncle, especially those corner units.. some built private swimming pool while 1 of it even build a new 3 storey house beside the existing one with connected bridge in between.. the corner lot land is just that huge that can build another house..  sweat.gif
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Ohh tat unit, the owner no play play one. Hehe, I know a few Jalil Sutera owners age 30++ only but their profile, low & humble but quite financially strong ...

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BJ Stadium... I think BJ will be a better place without the stadium... was caught in a jam during some concerts, football match etc few times..damn...you'll wish you can blow up the stadium...
Build a MV/Garden or 1U mall... then it'll be perfect...
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Pp are accepting 650psf in other certain area?? Only applicable for new launch with package, such as dibs, 10% discount, sub sale market still not tested yet. We have to wait and see how many 650psf condo are doing well wen it VP. Haha
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You are correct on ur own sentiment too. Those enter anything with RM 650 psf onwards, are yet to get VP and I have no idea how the market sustain it like UFO said. Thats why I not even dare to enter anything above RM 500 psf and my most exp buy for highrise still remain RM 420 psf....

I am sure most of the buyers who bought the RM 650 psf onwards, regardless DIBS, 10% or 7% discount, sure factor in their holding power and month installment as well... If they do not, habis lah them.


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BJ Stadium... I think BJ will be a better place without the stadium... was caught in a jam during some concerts, football match etc few times..damn...you'll wish you can blow up the stadium...
Build a MV/Garden or 1U mall... then it'll be perfect...
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There will be 2 major commercial coming around BJ area..
WCT (shopping Mall + mix dev) and HoHup (mix dev)...

Also there will be berjaya mix development probably near Hohup Jalil City..

I recalled some one mentioned the stadium and complex will be gazed.. any sos from fellow daikor?

Yea, I prefer the West side of BJ (Golf Club and Resort side) then the East side (Stadium)
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There will be 2 major commercial coming around BJ area..
WCT (shopping Mall + mix dev) and HoHup (mix dev)...

Also there will be berjaya mix development probably near Hohup Jalil City..

I recalled some one mentioned the stadium and complex will be gazed.. any sos from fellow daikor?

Yea, I prefer the West side of BJ (Golf Club and Resort side) then the East side (Stadium)
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The Ho Hup one is just a small part of Jalil City, which majority with Malton too.

Really? The stadium and the complex will be gazed? If it is, probably a good news for future. Lol.

I just heard a rumuor said, from Berjaya taikors, few hole of the BJ Golf would be flip for further plan, hahaha.

Ya, concurred with u tat, BJ West side is much much better than the Stadium side.


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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jan 20 2013, 03:23 PM)
You are correct on ur own sentiment too. Those enter anything with RM 650 psf onwards, are yet to get VP and I have no idea how the market sustain it like UFO said. Thats why I not even dare to enter anything above RM 500 psf and my most exp buy for highrise still remain RM 420 psf....

I am sure most of the buyers who bought the RM 650 psf onwards, regardless DIBS, 10% or 7% discount, sure factor in their holding power and month installment as well... If they do not, habis lah them.
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I think it is not simply the price, main reason should be the supply is too huge.

Tenant will be happy. Haha.

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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Jan 20 2013, 03:25 PM)
There will be 2 major commercial coming around BJ area..
WCT (shopping Mall + mix dev) and HoHup (mix dev)...

Also there will be berjaya mix development probably near Hohup Jalil City..

I recalled some one mentioned the stadium and complex will be gazed.. any sos from fellow daikor?

Yea, I prefer the West side of BJ (Golf Club and Resort side) then the East side (Stadium)
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Berjaya like not good in development planning at all.

They always hit the jackpot then run road. To me, it is like killing the goose that lays gold eggs.

Any brother care to comment? Thanks.

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Berjaya like not good in development planning at all.

They always hit the jackpot then run road. To me, it is like killing the goose that lays gold eggs.

Any brother care to comment? Thanks.
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Hit & Run? I dont know?
All Berjaya property at Bukit Jalil enjoy good growth in capital and rental starting from Greenfield apartment.
In certain higher lots of Greenfield apartment, Front view is golf, back view is the huge bukit jalil park.

Still got KM 2 and KM 3..
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The Ho Hup one is just a small part of Jalil City, which majority with Malton too.

Really? The stadium and the complex will be gazed? If it is, probably a good news for future. Lol.

I just heard a rumuor said, from Berjaya taikors, few hole of the BJ Golf would be flip for further plan, hahaha.

Ya, concurred with u tat, BJ West side is much much better than the Stadium side.
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opps.. yea it is Hohup + Malton..
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Half the density. Prive lift lobby. 3 parking vs Price increase from 500psf west to 600psf east (20% Increase).
Sounds reasonable. blush.gif
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QUOTE(kohts @ Jan 20 2013, 03:50 PM)
Hit & Run? I dont know?
All Berjaya property at Bukit Jalil enjoy good growth in capital and rental starting from Greenfield apartment.
In certain higher lots of Greenfield apartment, Front view is golf, back view is the huge bukit jalil park.

Still got KM 2 and KM 3..
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Sorry, what I mean is, they never do like Setia way.

Simple example, see how Desa ParkCity pioneer grows 4 to 5 folds.

Imagine they develop the whole Bukit Jalil...

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Berjaya like not good in development planning at all.

They always hit the jackpot then run road. To me, it is like killing the goose that lays gold eggs.

Any brother care to comment? Thanks.
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seems there are more up coming development from them in BJ..
not sure what do you mean by "hit the jackpot then run road".. mind to elaborate.. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(xyyap @ Jan 20 2013, 03:53 PM)
Sorry, what I mean is, they never do like Setia way.

Simple example, see how Desa ParkCity pioneer grows 4 to 5 folds.

Imagine they develop the whole Bukit Jalil...
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Cant compare with setia la or all the top tier developer.
But better than other Bukit Jalil developer la.
If bukit jalil is by top tier developer, Bukit Jalil is already the top development in the country oredi

Thanks to Talam gor la.
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seems there are more up coming development from them in BJ..
not sure what do you mean by "hit the jackpot then run road".. mind to elaborate..  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(xyyap @ Jan 20 2013, 03:53 PM)
Sorry, what I mean is, they never do like Setia way.

Simple example, see how Desa ParkCity pioneer grows 4 to 5 folds.

Imagine they develop the whole Bukit Jalil...
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Berjaya also like never have any "land mark" product.

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Berjaya also like never have any "land mark" product.
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Cant compare with setia la or all the top tier developer.
But better than other Bukit Jalil developer la.
If bukit jalil is by top tier developer, Bukit Jalil is already the top development in the country oredi

Thanks to Talam gor la.
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Berjaya as a brand is quite well known 10 years back leh.

Maybe Mr Tan has make enough money, don't see they are innovative with their product development.

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Berjaya as a brand is quite well known 10 years back leh.

Maybe Mr Tan has make enough money, don't see they are innovative with their product development.
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go look see look see at their show house.
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go look see look see at their show house.
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Sorry lah, I don't really mean to comment them, but I really see they are not good in taking up huge development.

Stop here. Back to the topic. Hehe.


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Berjaya also like never have any "land mark" product.
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Have to agree that BL is not as top notch as SPS.. but, they still sell..
1 thing for sure BL is blessed with having Bukit Jalil for such strategic location..

IMHO.. Ppl are buying into BJ location, highway connectivity and convenience of public transport.. regardless of who building the houses around, the place sell itself simple bcos of location..

for SPS, they are heavily emphasizing on good township planning that draw buyers and investors, which i think they are pretty good with that despite location might be only so-so.. but the good concept and planning makes the "so-so location" to be forgiven..

FYI. BJ condos had been appreciated 3 fold like Savanna..

Is there any prop in DPC appreciated 4 to 5 fold? I know South Lake is about 3 fold.. hmm.gif
For the sake of condo vs condo comparison, how is Nadia in DPC doing? (curious)

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QUOTE(xyyap @ Jan 20 2013, 03:53 PM)
Sorry, what I mean is, they never do like Setia way.

Simple example, see how Desa ParkCity pioneer grows 4 to 5 folds.

Imagine they develop the whole Bukit Jalil...
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It's very hard to compare if there are many "IF", past tense against future tense and all of SP Setia, Perdana Parkcity and Berjaya Land have very much different company aspects, missions and visions, corporate planning and influence and much more.

SP Setia is the property dev taikor in Msia, very much to the support from the government and they are more to big township planner in such manner.

Perdana Parkcity took a very respective risky move on a 400+ acres ex-mining land purchased back then, where the first 5 land company prospects viewed it and seem the land was not so ideal for development until Perdana Parkcity with the support of a huge group of investors and hence, the idea of parkhomes was introduced into a niche market of Kepong area with a double pricing compare to landed in Kepong or Manjalara area, people were argued you were crazy if you buy it for investment, but those older people who said this about 6-10 years back got to swallow back their words now. The concentration on Desa Parkcity alone made a fruitful journey for the developer and as well as early investors and buyers as well.

Berjaya is not a kind of SP Setia's vision definitely and not as top as them in terms of property township planning. It might due to Berjaya had much more investments and planning compare to their corporate property division which can give more reputation and profile to the company coupled with faster and bigger profit compare to township development.

They hold majority of the BJ land but if they owned 90% or majority one large plot and concentrating the property development with good and great masterplan, also would bring different story. Don't forget Ho Hup and Huatland both developed at BJ too as well as Malton is coming on this year end for it's Jalil Integrated City.

But I see the current BJ of Jalan Jalil Perkasa 1 side, is transforming well in the past 1-2 years ( we can see the commercial at The Link had started to do well after vacant for about 1-2 years and interchanged of Kesas Highway helped a lot few years back ) and I see with the addition of the latest series of medium higher end and high end condos, catalyst of mixed commercial development by WCT Mall, Ho Hup & Malton's Jalil City and Berjaya itself could transform BJ into bigger league area in the next 5 years and another wave in another 10 years.




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Sorry lah, I don't really mean to comment them, but I really they are not good in taking up huge development.

Stop here. Back to the topic. Hehe.
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Haha no worry bro. We are not attacking you, but I really seconded that Berjaya Land is really not taking very good in proper huge development or township planning.

Perhaps, KM1 West and KM1 East could be their landmark projects, the only 2 residential projects which impressed me a bit.

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How much is the minimum price for a landed @ Bukit Jalil?
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Berjaya is a much more conservative developer. But things are about to change with their upcoming plans.

The upcoming mixed dev in BJ

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The future city centre of KL South by Berjaya

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will be transformed into something similar to their Korea project - the model of Berjaya's planned megaproject - SG. BESI HUB CITY

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bascially km1 east is 1 highrise and 1 lowrise.. ??

but really salute this is like a BBB for biggies at a record psft price?...
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Yes, KM 1 east = 1 highrise and 1 lowrise

Highrise block has 3 wings with 3 different views each (KLCC, Golf, Pool)

Each floor has 6 units, 2 units per wing.


Golf view wing has the most number of buyers. 2 units per wing x 27 floors = 54 units only



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QUOTE(kohts @ Jan 20 2013, 03:50 PM)
Hit & Run? I dont know?
All Berjaya property at Bukit Jalil enjoy good growth in capital and rental starting from Greenfield apartment.
In certain higher lots of Greenfield apartment, Front view is golf, back view is the huge bukit jalil park.

Still got KM 2 and KM 3..
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KM2 is the best of the best location in BJ. KM3 is indeed Covillea and Savanna 1&2
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Btw many people who work/study in Cyberjaya loves to stay in Bukit Jalil/Seri Petaling area.

Was wondering in the next few years so many are coming up in Cyberjaya, and would that affect Bukit Jalil attractiveness?

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Have to agree that BL is not as top notch as SPS.. but, they still sell..
1 thing for sure BL is blessed with having Bukit Jalil for such strategic location..

IMHO.. Ppl are buying into BJ location, highway connectivity and convenience of public transport.. regardless of who building the houses around, the place sell itself simple bcos of location..

for SPS, they are heavily emphasizing on good township planning that draw buyers and investors, which i think they are pretty good with that despite location might be only so-so.. but the good concept and planning makes the "so-so location" to be forgiven..

FYI. BJ condos had been appreciated 3 fold like Savanna..

Is there any prop in DPC appreciated 4 to 5 fold? I know South Lake is about 3 fold..  hmm.gif
For the sake of condo vs condo comparison, how is Nadia in DPC doing? (curious)
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Yes, BJ is quite a strategic location and the places here sold itself because of it's location without any catalyst back then.

Surprisingly no one mentioned about another taikor, Huatland. See how they developed the Taman Esplanade, it received decent profit back then and even now. I quite remember it was asking RM 800k back in 2007 and now it's RM 1.45mil onwards ... While the Zero Lot Bungalow, it was sold RM 1.4 - RM 1.9mil back then, 2009 and it was about RM 2.5mil to RM 3.8 mil now.

Hmm, you mean Nadia Condo in DPC? As I remember, it was launched in 2002/03 for about RM 250 psf onwards and was sold RM 400+ psf after completion in 2006 and I think now, was asking abt averaging RM 650-700 psf.




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Yes, BJ is quite a strategic location and the places here sold itself because of it's location without any catalyst back then.

Surprisingly no one mentioned about another taikor, Huatland. See how they developed the Taman Esplanade, it received decent profit back then and even now. I quite remember it was asking RM 800k back in 2007 and now it's RM 1.45mil onwards ... While the Zero Lot Bungalow, it was sold RM 1.4 - RM 1.9mil back then, 2009 and it was about RM 2.5mil to RM 3.8 mil now.

Hmm, you mean Nadia Condo in DPC? As I remember, it was launched in 2002/03 for about RM 250 psf onwards and was sold RM 400+ psf after completion in 2006 and I think now, was asking abt averaging RM 650-700 psf.
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Huatland.. lolz... nice name.. yup, taman esplanade has appreciated 2 fold..

So Nadia also appreciated about 3 fold.. was wondering which one appreciate 4 to 5 fold in DPC hmm.gif
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Btw many people who work/study  in Cyberjaya loves to stay in Bukit Jalil/Seri Petaling area.

Was wondering in the next few years so many are coming up in Cyberjaya, and would that affect Bukit Jalil attractiveness?
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there are still ppl who work in KL and PJ stay in BJ...
with Ah Jib kor's new plan on the financial hub (sg besi airport), TRX, more commercial pouring in such as Eco City at the southern of KL, seems the attractiveness is still there in southern KL..

Maybe Cyber ppl will move to cyber and BJ will be filled by new occupants who seek job opportunity around the southern corridor of KL..

More commercial activities in BJ is just timely for that IMHO..

*At least BJ has its LRT completed 1st before putra/cyberjaya have their MRT line 3 in near future..

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Huatland.. lolz... nice name.. yup, taman esplanade has appreciated 2 fold..

So Nadia also appreciated about 3 fold.. was wondering which one appreciate 4 to 5 fold in DPC  hmm.gif
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Yes, Nadia is about 2.5 folds in 9-10 years period inclusive 3 years construction period. I also wondering which one appreciated 4 to 5 folds?

The best I can seen in DPC now, could be still South Lake ( looks very plain and basic ) and Safa Terraces, due to both under Individualized Title with lesser monthly maintenance fee, the demand is still there. Thanks to next developments, are all strata condo / garden condo or strata parkhomes with huge built up area contributed to higher monthly maintenance fee. Was told the maintenance fee could be raise again.

I think Tmn Esplanade, the 2 1/2 storey superlink, had appreciated 3 folds and similar to Nadia Parkhomes or Condo.

For the Zero Lot Bungalow, it was already 1 fold into the first year of completion. And this is fold by million ringgit card, not a fold of RM 200k card ... hhehehehe .


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Yes, Nadia is about 2.5 folds in 9-10 years period inclusive 3 years construction period. I also wondering which one appreciated 4 to 5 folds?

The best I can seen in DPC now, could be still South Lake ( looks very plain and basic ) and Safa Terraces, due to both under Individualized Title with lesser monthly maintenance fee, the demand is still there. Thanks to next developments, are all strata condo / garden condo or strata parkhomes with huge built up area contributed to higher monthly maintenance fee. Was told the maintenance fee could be raise again.

I think Tmn Esplanade, the 2 1/2 storey superlink, had appreciated 3 folds and similar to Nadia Parkhomes or Condo.

For the Zero Lot Bungalow, it was already 1 fold into the first year of completion. And this is fold by million ringgit card, not a fold of RM 200k card ... hhehehehe .
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seems that the rate of appreciation of certain props in BJ pretty good close to DPC.. wink.gif
I only can remember Savanna from 200k+ to 600k+ in just 5 or 6 years..
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seems that the rate of appreciation of certain props in BJ pretty good close to DPC..  wink.gif
I only can remember Savanna from 200k+ to 600k+ in just 5 or 6 years..
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The rate of appreciation of BJ especially landed was quite good and low profile one.

I also quite surprised that Savanna can appreciated from 200+k to 600+k in just 5-6 years time, bcz I don't see it's great in facade, design or accessibility based on the folds. LOL. Zest was still better and already 1 fold in just less than 1 year time of completion. I expected can get 1.5 folds in another 2 years time?

Hahhahaha.



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The rate of appreciation of BJ especially landed was quite good and low profile one.

I also quite surprised that Savanna can appreciated from 200+k to 600+k in just 5-6 years time, bcz I don't see it's great in facade, design or accessibility based on the folds. LOL. Zest was still better and already 1 fold in just less than 1 year time of completion.  I expected can get 1.5 folds in another 2 years time?

Hahhahaha.
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Zest better than savanna?  You must be kidding.
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No, I am not kidding if you fully understand my statement which I replied twin gor.

If I can remember correctly, Savanna was sold about ave RM 220 psf back during launching time ( I think Block B with furnished was sold and launched at higher price, is that true? ) and upon completion in late 2008, it was transacted about RM 300-320 psf, RM 400 psf onwards in 2011 and now, year 2013 RM 550+ psf.

If compare with The Zest. The first block, Block C was sold at similar RM 200 psf back then 2009, upon completion in late 2011/ 2012 Jan, transacted from RM 360-380 psf, shot up to RM 380-400 psf upon VP after CNY. Now, 2013, easily RM 440-460 psf.

Btw : My info about Savanna might be incorrect.





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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Jan 20 2013, 05:37 PM)
seems that the rate of appreciation of certain props in BJ pretty good close to DPC..  wink.gif
I only can remember Savanna from 200k+ to 600k+ in just 5 or 6 years..
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I thought block b only can reach 600k, where launching also higher. Block a should below 600k now.
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Yes, Nadia is about 2.5 folds in 9-10 years period inclusive 3 years construction period. I also wondering which one appreciated 4 to 5 folds?

The best I can seen in DPC now, could be still South Lake ( looks very plain and basic ) and Safa Terraces, due to both under Individualized Title with lesser monthly maintenance fee, the demand is still there. Thanks to next developments, are all strata condo / garden condo or strata parkhomes with huge built up area contributed to higher monthly maintenance fee. Was told the maintenance fee could be raise again.

I think Tmn Esplanade, the 2 1/2 storey superlink, had appreciated 3 folds and similar to Nadia Parkhomes or Condo.

For the Zero Lot Bungalow, it was already 1 fold into the first year of completion. And this is fold by million ringgit card, not a fold of RM 200k card ... hhehehehe .
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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...st+appreciation

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1936220/+20?...%20appreciation

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I thought block b only can reach 600k, where launching also higher. Block a should below 600k now.
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block A nearer to MEX right.. hmm.gif ..
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seems that the rate of appreciation of certain props in BJ pretty good close to DPC..  wink.gif
I only can remember Savanna from 200k+ to 600k+ in just 5 or 6 years..
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When was savanna ever 200 K ? When I visited their sales room during their launch it was min 400 K already.


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I thought block b only can reach 600k, where launching also higher. Block a should below 600k now.
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If I remember correctly, again, lol, Block A launched with RM 200 psf onwards, so even at RM 600k, its decent profit with RM 500 psf. ( 1.5 fold in 6-7 years, good? )

And Block B launched at even higher price, after Korean sapu few floors or most of the units, the balance units with furnished from RM 400k onwards and was heard much higher 5% premium for facing Golf View during late 2008 If these units asking RM 650k now, it was about 0.6 fold only.

Block A owners much more healthier in balance sheet.




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When was savanna ever 200 K ? When I visited their sales room during their launch it was min 400 K already.
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early phase was less than 300k...
pick this up from 2007 news
"The freehold Block A and B will feature 408 units housed in two towers of 22 floors each. They are priced from RM238,880 to RM435,880"

400k? are you referring to savanna 2 or covillea? hmm.gif

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Have to agree that BL is not as top notch as SPS.. but, they still sell..
1 thing for sure BL is blessed with having Bukit Jalil for such strategic location..

IMHO.. Ppl are buying into BJ location, highway connectivity and convenience of public transport.. regardless of who building the houses around, the place sell itself simple bcos of location..

for SPS, they are heavily emphasizing on good township planning that draw buyers and investors, which i think they are pretty good with that despite location might be only so-so.. but the good concept and planning makes the "so-so location" to be forgiven..

FYI. BJ condos had been appreciated 3 fold like Savanna..

Is there any prop in DPC appreciated 4 to 5 fold? I know South Lake is about 3 fold..  hmm.gif
For the sake of condo vs condo comparison, how is Nadia in DPC doing? (curious)
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Hard to compare. Landed vs highrise.

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When was savanna ever 200 K ? When I visited their sales room during their launch it was min 400 K already.
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Not 200k, he quote 200k+ ...

The first block or phase was sold from RM 260k++ onwards for 1,212 sf ( before discount )...

The RM 400k+ should be Savanna Block B ( with furnished ) or Savanna 2 or Covillea ...





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It's very hard to compare if there are many "IF", past tense against future tense and all of SP Setia, Perdana Parkcity and Berjaya Land have very much different company aspects, missions and visions, corporate planning and influence and much more.

SP Setia is the property dev taikor in Msia, very much to the support from the government and they are more to big township planner in such manner.

Perdana Parkcity took a very respective risky move on a 400+ acres ex-mining land purchased back then, where the first 5 land company prospects viewed it and seem the land was not so ideal for development until Perdana Parkcity with the support of a huge group of investors and hence, the idea of parkhomes was introduced into a niche market of Kepong area with a double pricing compare to landed in Kepong or Manjalara area, people were argued you were crazy if you buy it for investment, but those older people who said this about 6-10 years back got to swallow back their words now. The concentration on Desa Parkcity alone made a fruitful journey for the developer and as well as early investors and buyers as well.

Berjaya is not a kind of SP Setia's vision definitely and not as top as them in terms of property township planning. It might due to Berjaya had much more investments and planning compare to their corporate property division which can give more reputation and profile to the company coupled with faster and bigger profit compare to township development.

They hold majority of the BJ land but if they owned 90% or majority one large plot and concentrating the property development with good and great masterplan, also would bring different story. Don't forget Ho Hup and Huatland both developed at BJ too as well as Malton is coming on this year end for it's Jalil Integrated City.

But I see the current BJ of Jalan Jalil Perkasa 1 side, is transforming well in the past 1-2 years ( we can see the commercial at The Link had started to do well after vacant for about 1-2 years and interchanged of Kesas Highway helped a lot few years back ) and I see with the addition of the latest series of medium higher end and high end condos, catalyst of mixed commercial development by WCT Mall, Ho Hup & Malton's Jalil City and Berjaya itself could transform BJ into bigger league area in the next 5 years and another wave in another 10 years.
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They hold majority of the BJ land but if they owned 90% or majority one large plot and concentrating the property development with good and great masterplan...

TQVM. Agreed that it is hard to compare.

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QUOTE(accetera @ Jan 20 2013, 05:05 PM)
Btw many people who work/study  in Cyberjaya loves to stay in Bukit Jalil/Seri Petaling area.

Was wondering in the next few years so many are coming up in Cyberjaya, and would that affect Bukit Jalil attractiveness?
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QUOTE(xyyap @ Jan 20 2013, 07:15 PM)
Hard to compare. Landed vs highrise.
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like what you mentioned "Hard to compare. Landed vs highrise"
ironically, DPC dominate by landed, Berjaya only have highrise in Bukit Jalil..

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jan 20 2013, 05:12 PM)
Yes, BJ is quite a strategic location and the places here sold itself because of it's location without any catalyst back then.

Surprisingly no one mentioned about another taikor, Huatland. See how they developed the Taman Esplanade, it received decent profit back then and even now. I quite remember it was asking RM 800k back in 2007 and now it's RM 1.45mil onwards ... While the Zero Lot Bungalow, it was sold RM 1.4 - RM 1.9mil back then, 2009 and it was about RM 2.5mil to RM 3.8 mil now.

Hmm, you mean Nadia Condo in DPC? As I remember, it was launched in 2002/03 for about RM 250 psf onwards and was sold RM 400+ psf after completion in 2006 and I think now, was asking abt averaging RM 650-700 psf.
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QUOTE(xyyap @ Jan 20 2013, 07:26 PM)
Almost all landed bought during 2006/2007 double in value...
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My neighbour corner house up 10 folds from year 1996.

130k to 1.3+ M @ Sri Damansara...

Walao, I wish our pay can up 10 folds. Haha.

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5 units so far. I saw 2 China ladies were discussing at the sales office, seems cheap to them
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5 units so far. I saw 2 China ladies were discussing at the sales office, seems cheap to them
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Kampung place in china also more exp than bj. Tier 4 city also more exp than klcc area.

Kl properties are dirt cheap for mainlanders, only issue is whether they want to come here or not. They prefer places that are friendly to them.
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5 units so far. I saw 2 China ladies were discussing at the sales office, seems cheap to them
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Young and pretty? You should ask for contact and tackle one of them. brows.gif . Then can enbloc km2.
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Young and pretty? You should ask for contact and tackle one of them.  brows.gif . Then can enbloc km2.
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M quite sure one can be my mother, another be my aunt
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hahahahhaa ....

nkhong was heart breaker now ...



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M quite sure one can be my mother, another be my aunt
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hahahahhaa ....

nkhong was heart breaker now ...
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Be positive maybe got pretty daugther .. brows.gif
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Be positive maybe got pretty daugther ..  brows.gif
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jan 20 2013, 07:18 PM)
Not 200k, he quote 200k+ ...

The first block or phase was sold from RM 260k++ onwards for 1,212 sf ( before discount )...

The RM 400k+ should be Savanna Block B ( with furnished ) or Savanna 2 or Covillea ...
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The first block was already sold to Koreans and not available to the public.

I only had a chance to look at Savanna Block B with prices near 400 K and above around year 2008





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There is a sign saying 'NO CAMERA ALLOWED'.

How did you get this ?

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Jialat! I forgot this!! vmad.gif doh.gif
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Almost all the potential buyers of KM1 are chinese.

I didn't see any indian or malay buyers these 2 days.


Will Bukit Jalil be a chinese majority area judging by the astronomical high prices of recent launches ?


The only malay area in Bukit Jalil is the low cost flat SRI RAKYAT.

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wasted chance for UFO gor... young daughter chiobu maybe studying in Malaysia..
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There is a sign saying 'NO CAMERA ALLOWED'.

How did you get this ?

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sales were much slower than expected if it remains at 30+%.
seems like seng kung needs major marketing push to clear the stock again.
as for bj's attractiveness, i find that the major ones would be:
1. connectivity. it's linked in a various ways through a series of highways and also existing lrt. in terms of connectivity, i rank bj better than mk.
2. recreational parks. bj have not just 1 but 2 major recreational parks. and these 2 parks are unlikely to go anywhere. and couple with the golf course and if you factor in the stadium, you really got a whole big host of recreational facilities and green lungs. mk on the other hand is sitting beside a major forest reserve. it also boast the most expensive golf course in malaysia nearby. it is also a stone throw away from kiara park (although accesible from ttdi side). i will still rank bj having a slight advantage because the parks are much more easier to access to the public.
3. neighbourhood. no doubt mk wins hands down in terms of population and also environment.

another great thing i like about bj is the future potential. bj still have a substantial amount of space to be developed.

and for comparisons against sps pulak, let me put it this way. bj have location that sells, so why be creative in the product. if they are creative in the product, and wish to sell higher, that puts them in unnecessary risks. sps on the other hand is creating demand in a new place. thus creativity and product is important.
if need to compare, please compare bj against sentul lah. that is more like it. look at how ytl is developing sentul and i'm sure you can spot some of the similiarities. even mk started off mk with plain looking condos. it was only from mk aman and damai onwards that condos in mk begins looking more trendy and upbeat.
but the above are merely my own views.
and fully agree with ufo boss. best gem in bj now are the landed. and also second ufo boss on the supply issue. but bj make the right choice by launching biggies else their product is just one out of the 20k+ products in the future. kekeke.
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The first block was already sold to Koreans and not available to the public.

I only had a chance to look at Savanna Block B with prices near 400 K and above around year 2008
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I thought Korean was bought en-bloc of Block B, no? Or Block A or C?

I was told that Korean were suppose to bought en-bloc, but later on, during late 2008, some units within the Korean block were released and sold at RM 390k onwards ( facing Vista Komanwel ) and RM 420k onwards for facing Golf ... and all these were fully furnished units...





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I thought Korean was bought en-bloc of Block B, no? Or Block A or C?

I was told that Korean were suppose to bought en-bloc, but later on, during late 2008, some units within the Korean block were released and sold at RM 390k onwards ( facing Vista Komanwel ) and RM 420k onwards for facing Golf ... and all these were fully furnished units...
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That is what i tot also, my friend got bought 1 unit block A. When i visit him, korean was selling block B even got sales office inside savanna.
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I thought Korean was bought en-bloc of Block B, no? Or Block A or C?

I was told that Korean were suppose to bought en-bloc, but later on, during late 2008, some units within the Korean block were released and sold at RM 390k onwards ( facing Vista Komanwel ) and RM 420k onwards for facing Golf ... and all these were fully furnished units...
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Korean buyer u also know ah? Must be spying Korean mui la... brows.gif
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Korean buyer u also know ah? Must be spying Korean mui la... brows.gif
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Not I know them, just heard only. Lol. U must be watch too much K-Drama or K-Pop lahh, those appear on the TV show one, was one of thousands even in Seoul, how to be in KL? Lol.

But I know a Korean group in Mont Kiara, very good, profile, kind but a bit fussy and tricky. All uncles. Sigh.


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Not I know them, just heard only. Lol. U must be watch too much K-Drama or K-Pop lahh, those appear on the TV show one, was one of thousands even in Seoul, how to be in KL? Lol.

But I know a Korean group in Mont Kiara, very good, profile, kind but a bit fussy and tricky. All uncles. Sigh.
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Uncle also ok ma...like our bros here says we can target their daughter? biggrin.gif
Anyway back to KM1 East, the price will makes the surrounding projects and even upcoming new landed looks cheap. Thinking to grab a landed in BJ?
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I thought Korean was bought en-bloc of Block B, no? Or Block A or C?

I was told that Korean were suppose to bought en-bloc, but later on, during late 2008, some units within the Korean block were released and sold at RM 390k onwards ( facing Vista Komanwel ) and RM 420k onwards for facing Golf ... and all these were fully furnished units...
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Yes block B with fully furnished, bout RM360K each
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Uncle also ok ma...like our bros here says we can target their daughter?  biggrin.gif
Anyway back to KM1 East, the price will makes the surrounding projects and even upcoming new landed looks cheap. Thinking to grab a landed in BJ?
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But a landed and join bj club for less than 20k. Still cheaper than buying km1east. Gogogo.

UFO gor, u personally think which landed is the best to stay or invest? Saw ur analysis but I just lazy Hihi
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QUOTE(Cocoon @ Jan 21 2013, 10:28 AM)
But a landed and join bj club for less than 20k. Still cheaper than buying km1east. Gogogo.

UFO gor, u personally think which landed is the best to stay or invest? Saw ur analysis but I just lazy Hihi
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What you say is correct. The link villa in The Treez has built up more than 4,000sf, the service charge is easily RM1,200/mth.

Own stay - Taman Espland
Investment - Seri Jalil

I can't speak for others, everybody's "security concern" is different, there are more break in cases happened in Tmn Esp than Jalil Sutera, fr my experience, the demand for better security has increased a lot in the last 3 years.
Since 2005, average Esplanad transacted price is 50K-70K higher than Jalil Sutera, however since 2011, Jalil Sutera is matching (or traded higher than) the price with Esp. In long run. Jalil Sutera and Seri Jalil can sell higher than Esplanad.

I hv given my ratings in another thread, you may refer.
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2667555/+60?hl=laman%20bayu


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Rating 1 - 10 (1 = bad, 10 = excellent)
ESP - Esplanad
JS - Jalil Sutera
SJ - Seri Jalil
LB - Laman Bayu

Location - ESP (10), JS (7), SJ (6), LB (4)
Security - ESP (6), JS (9), SJ (9), LB (9)
Facade - ESP (6), JS (7), SJ (8), LB (9)
Road width - ESP (10), JS (7), SJ (10), LB (7)
Layout - ESP (4), JS (6), SJ (9), LB (7)
Quality - ESP (8), JS (7), SJ (8), LB (7)
Land area - ESP (10), JS (9), SJ (9), LB (7)
Built up - ESP (9), JS (8), SJ (10), LB (7)
Facility / common area - ESP (7), JS (6), SJ (8), LB (9)


Market Price Comparison (Average)
Esplanad (F/H) - RM440/sf
Jalil Sutera (F/H) - RM454/sf
Seri Jalil (F/H) - RM426/sf
Laman Bayu (F/H) - RM413/sf
Kinrara Residence (L/H) - RM392/sf (3-S), RM357/sf (2.5 S), RM360/sf (2S)
Bdr Kinrara (F/H) - RM383/sf (New house), RM420/sf (Old house)
Taman Desa (F/H) - RM617/sf
Sri Petaling (L/H) - RM464/sf (2 1/2 storey)
OUG (F/H) - RM500/sf
DPC (FH) - RM600/sf (2 S)

IMO, Bukit Jalil Superlink is under value
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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Jan 21 2013, 11:30 AM)
What you say is correct. The link villa in The Treez has built up more than 4,000sf, the service charge is easily RM1,200/mth.

Own stay - Taman Espland
Investment - Seri Jalil

I can't speak for others, everybody's "security concern" is different, there are more break in cases happened in Tmn Esp than Jalil Sutera, fr my experience, the demand for better security has increased a lot in the last 3 years.
Since 2005, average Esplanad transacted price is 50K-70K higher than Jalil Sutera, however since 2011, Jalil Sutera is matching (or traded higher than) the price with Esp. In long run. Jalil Sutera and Seri Jalil can sell higher than Esplanad.

I hv given my ratings in another thread, you may refer.
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2667555/+60?hl=laman%20bayu
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Seri jalil huh Okok I better go n scout ard before vp.
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Seri jalil huh Okok I better go n scout ard before vp.
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Good choice.

My 2011 choice was Tmn Esplanade.

My 2013 choice would be Seri Jalil ( newer n much room for appreciation ) and Sutera Jalil ( nearer to Seri Jalil n other catalysts )


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After today all superlinks in BJ above 500psf.
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By the way, can anyome update if KM1 West were fully sold? The very last time i saw was about 10 units to go.
The lastest tansacted price of 1508sqft unit is rm878,880 (before rebate).
So, the latest price is ranging from rm550~560sqft, depending on whether 5% or 9% rebate was chosen (legal fee on loan & non-dibs interests were taken into account).
I wonder if there is still room for grow during completion and VP by mid of 2014.
Bear in mind that the nearby properties like KR1, KR2 and Z Residence (higher density & lower end compared to km1 west) are selling above rm400sqft at the moment. I was informed that the unsold units at Z residence are selling around rm500sqft in the retreat lunch last weekend.
If KR1. KR2 and Z Resi are able to climb above rm500sqft in near future, how you guys estimate the minimum price of km1 west?
Besides, how about KM1 East?
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I like KM1 East but it's way far too expensive at around rm650sqft (before 5% rebate)...even after 5% rebate, it;s still around rm620sqft...
Could this development achieve rm800sqft and above upon completion & VP? Can anyome advice?
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Any new launching properties in klang valley soon?
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By the way, can anyome update if KM1 West were fully sold?
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I looked at the KM1 WEST chart last sunday (yesterday), it is not fully sold but 99.9 %.

I counted only 1 to 3 units left that most people don't want.

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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Jan 21 2013, 04:44 PM)
I looked at the KM1 WEST chart last sunday (yesterday), it is not fully sold but 99.9 %.

I counted only 1 to 3 units left that most people don't want.
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wooi...i heard from a friend of mine who visited km1 east preview on 19th Jan that km1 west has left about 10 units unsold....just a day after, left only 1-3 units? amazing.....wonder if it's sticker game again
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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Jan 21 2013, 04:44 PM)
I looked at the KM1 WEST chart last sunday (yesterday), it is not fully sold but 99.9 %.

I counted only 1 to 3 units left that most people don't want.
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So fast left 1 to 3 units only?

My fren oso went there few days ago. He said about 10 units left also wohh.

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QUOTE(yeap99 @ Jan 21 2013, 04:20 PM)
By the way, can anyome update if KM1 West were fully sold? The very last time i saw was about 10 units to go.
The lastest tansacted price of 1508sqft unit is rm878,880 (before rebate).
So, the latest price is ranging from rm550~560sqft, depending on whether 5% or 9% rebate was chosen (legal fee on loan & non-dibs interests were taken into account).
I wonder if there is still room for grow during completion and VP by mid of 2014.
Bear in mind that the nearby properties like KR1, KR2 and Z Residence (higher density & lower end compared to km1 west) are selling above rm400sqft at the moment. I was informed that the unsold units at Z residence are selling around rm500sqft in the retreat lunch last weekend.
If KR1. KR2 and Z Resi are able to climb above rm500sqft in near future, how you guys  estimate the minimum price of km1 west?
Besides, how about KM1 East?
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KM1 West definitely not fully sold, I guess still remain few units. 2-3 months back, I did interested in it's smallest size of 1331 sf but left only 2 units the lowest floor with less desirable view. Biggies definitely not my tea.

I see KM1 West would still asking higher than KR1 and ZR upon VP next year while remain the same once KR2 completed in late 2015. Its location at higher land next to BJ golf is definitely win-win against the street of KR2-KR1-ZR. I personally dont see how high end of its facade and layout against KR2 or ZR, but the low density and the grand main entrance definitely provided an upper look.

ZR RM 500 psf net onwards is for smallest unit of 1,0xx sf, RM 470 psf net onwards for medium size 12xx sf and RM 450 psf onwards for biggest unit of 1407 sf.

KR2 was RM 460 psf ( price just increased )net for medium size 1276 sf at high floor of premium tower. Big units of 1457 sf still affordable from RM 420 psf onwards ( increase after CNY ) also at premium tower. Smallest size fully sold since preview day.

If ZR / KR2 able to ask RM 500 psf and above by end of 2015 ( assume bcz both completion date is one year plus apart ), I think KM1 West can be slightly RM 50 psf abv both ZR or KR2.

KM1 East only for biggies, its definitely the diff league compare to KM1 West as well as KR2 or ZR. The purchasers profile are much different. On how much upon VP in 2016, its remain a secret of untesting market in BJ for big sizie development. If u perspective about KM1 East, I rather u to invest into landed in BJ listed above.


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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jan 21 2013, 05:25 PM)
KM1 West definitely not fully sold, I guess still remain few units. 2-3 months back, I did interested in it's smallest size of 1331 sf but left only 2 units the lowest floor with less desirable view. Biggies definitely not my tea.

I see KM1 West would still asking higher than KR1 and ZR upon VP next year while remain the same once KR2 completed in late 2015. Its location at higher land next to BJ golf is definitely win-win against the street of KR2-KR1-ZR. I personally dont see how high end of its facade and layout against KR2 or ZR, but the low density and the grand main entrance definitely provided an upper look.

ZR RM 500 psf net onwards is for smallest unit of 1,0xx sf, RM 470 psf net onwards for medium size 12xx sf and RM 450 psf onwards for biggest unit of 1407 sf.

KR2 was RM 460 psf ( price just increased )net for medium size 1276 sf at high floor of premium tower. Big units of 1457 sf still affordable from RM 420 psf onwards ( increase after CNY ) also at premium tower. Smallest size fully sold since preview day.

If ZR / KR2 able to ask RM 500 psf and above by end of 2015 ( assume bcz both completion date is one year plus apart ), I think KM1 West can be slightly RM 50 psf abv both ZR or KR2.

KM1 East only for biggies, its definitely the diff league compare to KM1 West as well as KR2 or ZR. The purchasers profile are much different. On how much upon VP in 2016, its remain a secret of untesting market in BJ for big sizie development. If u perspective about KM1 East, I rather u to invest into landed in BJ listed above.
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KM1 west is priced at RM 550 per sqft at the moment.
It should touch upon 600 upon vp.
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QUOTE(yeap99 @ Jan 21 2013, 04:25 PM)
I like KM1 East but it's way far too expensive at around rm650sqft (before 5% rebate)...even after 5% rebate, it;s still around rm620sqft...
Could this development achieve rm800sqft and above upon completion & VP? Can anyome advice?
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You guys are non stop thinking how much it can appreciate and how to flip after VP!
With this price tag, I would say if you like the location, the development, the size and layout for own stay, then go ahead to grab one, cant always expect the increase of 30-50% after vp, it's over brother.
If you aim for long term appreciation, as what UFO said, buy a subsale unit from seri Jalil 2.5 storey, 23x80, still better choice, hold for 4-5 years, chances still ok.
Those Z residence and kiara residence which balcony facing kesas highway, please install sound proof before move in.
My last purchase in BJ was December 2009
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QUOTE(zuiko407 @ Jan 21 2013, 07:38 PM)
You guys are non stop thinking how much it can appreciate and how to flip after VP!
With this price tag, I would say if you like the location, the development, the size and layout for own stay, then go ahead to grab one, cant always expect the increase of 30-50% after vp, it's over brother.
If you aim for long term appreciation, as what UFO said, buy a subsale unit from seri Jalil 2.5 storey, 23x80, still better choice, hold for 4-5 years, chances still ok.
Those Z residence and kiara residence which balcony facing kesas highway, please install sound proof before move in.
My last purchase in BJ was December 2009
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You guys are non stop thinking how much it can appreciate and how to flip after VP!
With this price tag, I would say if you like the location, the development, the size and layout for own stay, then go ahead to grab one, cant always expect the increase of 30-50% after vp, it's over brother.
If you aim for long term appreciation, as what UFO said, buy a subsale unit from seri Jalil 2.5 storey, 23x80, still better choice, hold for 4-5 years, chances still ok.
Those Z residence and kiara residence which balcony facing kesas highway, please install sound proof before move in.
My last purchase in BJ was December 2009
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2 mega malls coming, LRT coming, schools coming, JJ coming (very likely), a transformation fr a peaceful living place to a vibrant city is on going now, more people will stay here, more homes supplied, however I think the amt of highrise supply is overtaking the speed of migration, I dun see salary will increase a lot in 5-10 yrs to come, average rental won't touch 3K for sure, I dun think those new condos can appreciate > 15% after completion.
If mkt turn the other way, it is very possible that price will drop back to developer's price. Our economy is not promising indeed. If BN win again, 2018 will be a disaster!
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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Jan 21 2013, 10:29 PM)
2 mega malls coming, LRT coming, schools coming, JJ coming (very likely), a transformation fr a peaceful living place to a vibrant city is on going now, more people will stay here, more homes supplied, however I think the amt of highrise supply is overtaking the speed of migration, I dun see salary will increase a lot in 5-10 yrs to come, average rental won't touch 3K for sure, I dun think those new condos can appreciate > 15% after completion.
If mkt turn the other way, it is very possible that price will drop back to developer's price. Our economy is not promising indeed. If BN win again, 2018 will be a disaster!
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boss, now that you mention it, i felt strange. how can a place which have so many positive catalyst going for it be heading south? if your concern on bj's supply is going to outstrip demand, then what about place such as d'sara perdana or mk? if indeed bj is going south, what about the other areas? you mean they would be less affected since the other place's launches are less than BJ-OUG-OKR area? appreciate your thoughts pls. thanks.
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boss, now that you mention it, i felt strange. how can a place which have so many positive catalyst going for it be heading south? if your concern on bj's supply is going to outstrip demand, then what about place such as d'sara perdana or mk? if indeed bj is going south, what about the other areas? you mean they would be less affected since the other place's launches are less than BJ-OUG-OKR area? appreciate your thoughts pls. thanks.
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We are discussing the potential of the rental mkt in these areas. I dunno much bout MK and D'sara Perdana property mkt, better keep quiet. I always analyze the potential of an upcoming townships using my own matrix :-
1. Developer
2. % Chinese population
3. Accessibility
4. Catalyst projects / buildings
5. Spending power / income per capita
6. DD vs SS

Frankly item 5 is very crucial to estimate the possible rental rate of an area, if we examine the demographic in KV, in terms of average buying power, I believe North-West KV (MK - Hartams, Bangsar, D'sara etc) is a lot higher than South-West KV (Sunway-Puchong-BJ), Subang could hv a lot of rich uncle but it doesn't means that they are willing to spend, youngsters with no savings are indeed spending more. I dun hv any statistic to support this, however I hv a feeling that the youngsters in NW is earning much more than the youngsters in SW. Look at the performance of those new shoplots business in these areas will hv some clues.

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Aiyo, very chim le. What is DD vs SS?
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We are discussing the potential of the rental mkt in these areas. I dunno much bout MK and D'sara Perdana property mkt, better keep quiet. I always analyze the potential of an upcoming townships using my own matrix :-
1. Developer
2. % Chinese population
3. Accessibility
4. Catalyst projects / buildings
5. Spending power / income per capita
6. DD vs SS
What about clubs and parks

The main draw of Bukit Jalil is the huge park and big golf club.

It is time that Bukit Jalil has its own banks.

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Aiyo, very chim le. What is DD vs SS?
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What about clubs and parks

The main draw of Bukit Jalil is the huge park and big golf club.

It is time that Bukit Jalil has its own banks.
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I agree on this but the problem is not much land available for further commercial development. Looks like still have to much rely on neighborhood commercial such as Sri Petaling for daily needs.
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I agree on this but the problem is not much land available for further commercial development. Looks like still have to much rely on neighborhood commercial such as Sri Petaling for daily needs.
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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Jan 21 2013, 11:47 PM)
We are discussing the potential of the rental mkt in these areas. I dunno much bout MK and D'sara Perdana property mkt, better keep quiet. I always analyze the potential of an upcoming townships using my own matrix :-
1. Developer
2. % Chinese population
3. Accessibility
4. Catalyst projects / buildings
5. Spending power / income per capita
6. DD vs SS

Frankly item 5 is very crucial to estimate the possible rental rate of an area, if we examine the demographic in KV, in terms of average buying power, I believe North-West KV (MK - Hartams, Bangsar, D'sara etc) is a lot higher than South-West KV (Sunway-Puchong-BJ), Subang could hv a lot of rich uncle but it doesn't means that they are willing to spend, youngsters with no savings are indeed spending more. I dun hv any statistic to support this, however I hv a feeling that the youngsters in NW is earning much more than the youngsters in SW. Look at the performance of those new shoplots business in these areas will hv some clues.
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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Jan 21 2013, 10:29 PM)
2 mega malls coming, LRT coming, schools coming, JJ coming (very likely), a transformation fr a peaceful living place to a vibrant city is on going now, more people will stay here, more homes supplied, however I think the amt of highrise supply is overtaking the speed of migration, I dun see salary will increase a lot in 5-10 yrs to come, average rental won't touch 3K for sure, I dun think those new condos can appreciate > 15% after completion.
If mkt turn the other way, it is very possible that price will drop back to developer's price. Our economy is not promising indeed. If BN win again, 2018 will be a disaster!
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Indeed it was nice and potential.

But I feel it takes time to put The Link under the threat. The Link progress is quite impressive lately and seems developers made up their mind to based at the Link, much greater looking to entirely facade of the Link due to showroom / beauty sales gallery.

Summore, it was not old shops and I believe Jalil City Aurora is a matter of time to overtake it but guess, not so soon gua. The entry price for most of the buyers only below RM 2mil previously and quite decent rental fr most of the units. I also heard a rumour of Hong Leong wanted to come in The Link and anor source said the bank only able to find 1 lot but they wish to have 2 lots side by side.

Eagerly to see the commercial hub starting soon for Aurora Jalil City or Berjaya Mixed Development.

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This thread seems hijacked by comments of BJ commercialize or surrounding projects much more than KM1 East. Lol.

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This thread seems hijacked by comments of BJ commercialize or surrounding projects much more than KM1 East. Lol.
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The catalyst projects in BJ are indeed a seeling point to KM 1 east.
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Indeed it was nice and potential.

But I feel it takes time to put The Link under the threat. The Link progress is quite impressive lately and seems developers made up their mind to based at the Link, much greater looking to entirely facade of the Link due to showroom / beauty sales gallery.

Summore, it was not old shops and I believe Jalil City Aurora is a matter of time to overtake it but guess, not so soon gua. The entry price for most of the buyers only below RM 2mil previously and quite decent rental fr most of the units. I also heard a rumour of Hong Leong wanted to come in The Link and anor source said the bank only able to find 1 lot but they wish to have 2 lots side by side.

Eagerly to see the commercial hub starting soon for Aurora Jalil City or Berjaya Mixed Development.
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HL in Aurora Place. The Link number of shops not enough to make it "wong", if I am The Link's owner, I will sell it now and park in Jalil City or WCT mix development
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Ehh. HL go to Aurora ah. Weird, nvr hear banks will commit to go to a commercial area which is under con and yet to materialize.

Agree that the number of The Link shops are too less to make it more wong.


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Ehh. HL go to Aurora ah. Weird, nvr hear banks will commit to go to a commercial area which is under con and yet to materialize.

Agree that the number of The Link shops are too less to make it more wong.
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U r rite. But this aurora got many banking taiko into this project.. So it is natural to assume that.

The next one will be wong is Sri petaling. Let see how many banks will come in once the new shops are complete.

What abt Berjaya mixed Dev? Can jump in or not ...

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Ehh. HL go to Aurora ah. Weird, nvr hear banks will commit to go to a commercial area which is under con and yet to materialize.

Agree that the number of The Link shops are too less to make it more wong.
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Unofficial, 5 banks are in. The centre of BJ is definitely in Jalil City. The Link can't match it at all!
p/s : As long as bank meets their allocated quote (open new branch), they can pre arrange with developer

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Huh so u r from the architect firm? East is much better than west. Overall still conservative design.
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Huh so u r from the architect firm? East is much better than west. Overall still conservative design.
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Just a kuli though. Conservative ,true,It all depends on the budget we get to work on.
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Just a kuli though. Conservative ,true,It all depends on the budget we get to work on.
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I like Sri pilmoor bungalow design. Only problem is land area is too small only 10feet.

So is km2 a high rise project? I like km2 location very much !
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Unofficial, 5 banks are in. The centre of BJ is definitely in Jalil City. The Link can't match it at all!
p/s : As long as bank meets their allocated quote (open new branch), they can pre arrange with developer

I have created a new topic on aurora, please continue there.

This thread is only for KM1.


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I like Sri pilmoor bungalow design. Only problem is land area is too small only 10feet.

So is km2 a high rise project? I like km2 location very much !
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Yes it is a high rise,but its still in the early stage.

Sri pilmoor is undeniably good. Setting a benchmark.
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I have created a new topic on aurora, please continue there.

This thread is only for KM1.
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No need. We hv one

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Yes it is a high rise,but its still in the early stage.

Sri pilmoor is undeniably good. Setting a benchmark.
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Can share some info on bj mixed development ?
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Just a kuli though. Conservative ,true,It all depends on the budget we get to work on.
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Yalor. Have to agree with Cocoon, the design n outlook quite conservative, lol. But quite understand u guys situation when facing the costing n budget issue. Haha.

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So fast left 1 to 3 units only?

My fren oso went there few days ago. He said about 10 units left also wohh.
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Hi There,

I am new to this forum. My family and I bought 3 units in kM1 West in early 2013 before the launch of kM1 East. I also recommended a friend who bought another unit in kM1 West. I am not surprised that kM1 West will be snapped up quickly because of the following reasons :-
(1) Some people who were interested in kM1 West may have held back their purchases because of the uncertainty about kM1 East. They may want to see how kM1 East will look like and cost before making their decisions. Now that kM1 East has been revealed with a much higher price tag and maintenance, these people may have flocked back to kM1 West.
(2) With kM1 East costing more and being more upmarket, the value of kM1 West may go up.
(3) The finishing in the two projects are quite similar except for the sizes and exclusivity.

I think kM1 has a very good potential because of the following :-
(1) Upcoming 1Jalil by Malton-Ho Hup
(2) Upcoming WCT's "Paradigm Mall" in OUG
(3) Upcoming Berjaya Commercial Centre next to the clubhouse - said to be launched in mid-2013
(4) Upcoming Lai Meng School
(5) Redevelopment of the Selangor Turf Club which has been bought by Berjaya Land in end 2012

However, I am also worried that too much development will cause overcrowding and traffic jams. But it is better to have more activities than what is witnessed currently.

Cheers!

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Hi There,

I am new to this forum. My family and I bought 3 units in kM1 West in early 2013 before the launch of kM1 East. I also recommended a friend who bought another unit in kM1 West. I am not surprised that kM1 West will be snapped up quickly because of the following reasons :-
(1) Some people who were interested in kM1 West may have held back their purchases because of the uncertainty about kM1 East. They may want to see how kM1 East will look like and cost before making their decisions. Now that kM1 East has been revealed with a much higher price tag and maintenance, these people may have flocked back to kM1 West.
(2) With kM1 East costing more and being more upmarket, the value of kM1 West may go up.
(3) The finishing in the two projects are quite similar except for the sizes and exclusivity.

I think kM1 has a very good potential because of the following :-
(1) Upcoming 1Jalil by Malton-Ho Hup
(2) Upcoming WCT's "Paradigm Mall" in OUG
(3) Upcoming Berjaya Commercial Centre next to the clubhouse - said to be launched in mid-2013
(4) Upcoming Lai Meng School
(5) Redevelopment of the Selangor Turf Club which has been bought by Berjaya Land in end 2012

However, I am also worried that too much development will cause overcrowding and traffic jams. But it is better to have more activities than what is witnessed currently.

Cheers!

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3 units? wow!
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My family meaning my relatives. Not myself buying up 3 units. No money for that. But we all agree on the potential in kM1.

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QUOTE(drchaw @ Jan 25 2013, 12:31 AM)
Hi There,

I am new to this forum. My family and I bought 3 units in kM1 West in early 2013 before the launch of kM1 East. I also recommended a friend who bought another unit in kM1 West. I am not surprised that kM1 West will be snapped up quickly because of the following reasons :-
(1) Some people who were interested in kM1 West may have held back their purchases because of the uncertainty about kM1 East. They may want to see how kM1 East will look like and cost before making their decisions. Now that kM1 East has been revealed with a much higher price tag and maintenance, these people may have flocked back to kM1 West.
(2) With kM1 East costing more and being more upmarket, the value of kM1 West may go up.
(3) The finishing in the two projects are quite similar except for the sizes and exclusivity.

I think kM1 has a very good potential because of the following :-
(1) Upcoming 1Jalil by Malton-Ho Hup
(2) Upcoming WCT's "Paradigm Mall" in OUG
(3) Upcoming Berjaya Commercial Centre next to the clubhouse - said to be launched in mid-2013
(4) Upcoming Lai Meng School
(5) Redevelopment of the Selangor Turf Club which has been bought by Berjaya Land in end 2012

However, I am also worried that too much development will cause overcrowding and traffic jams. But it is better to have more activities than what is witnessed currently.

Cheers!

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Hi which floor are the 3 units on?
What were the purchase prices?
How many units still left unsold at km1 west?
I actually bought one last year as well.
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Hi which floor are the 3 units on?
What were the purchase prices?
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I actually bought one last year as well.
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Price average about RM520/sf+/- after discount. Low, mid and high floors, Block B. Not sure how many left as of now but I believe they will sell out fast, even the lowest floors.

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QUOTE(drchaw @ Jan 25 2013, 10:09 AM)
Price average about RM520/sf+/- after discount. Low, mid and high floors, Block B. Not sure how many left as of now but I believe they will sell out fast, even the lowest floors.

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Wow. Big taikor spotted. 3 units altogether is not easy job.

I found quite a lot of families buying into BJ for 3-5 units together. Same goes to KR2 few members bought few units in one floor. Salute.

RM 520 psf is quite decent nowadays, is that 1500 sf onwards? Bcz i wanted to consider the 1300 sf one or two months ago, only left 2 units at lowest floor. Actually, KM1 West consider slow dy bcz the low dense units had launched since early 2011.

The catalyst u listed definitely worth to boost up the whole BJ. But without this, now BJ already in huge jam in peak hours esp Jalan Jalil Perkasa 1.

I couldnt imagine how, if all these condos completed in 2014/15 and this road if not extend further, which I see quite hard, would be in terrible jam further. Lol.

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QUOTE(drchaw @ Jan 25 2013, 10:09 AM)
Price average about RM520/sf+/- after discount. Low, mid and high floors, Block B. Not sure how many left as of now but I believe they will sell out fast, even the lowest floors.

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1508sqft?
Mine is RM530sf after 9% discount....i took non-DIBS which I think is better option...
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Hi which floor are the 3 units on?
What were the purchase prices?
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I actually bought one last year as well.
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1508sqft?
Mine is RM530sf after 9% discount....i took non-DIBS which I think is better option...
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Completion soon should opt for NON DIBS since 4% additional discount. Much more than progressive interest paid in very short term.

Any idea when is the roughly VP date when u bought it?

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Completion soon should opt for NON DIBS since 4% additional discount. Much more than progressive interest paid in very short term.

Any idea when is the roughly VP date when u bought it?
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Heard completion in 1st quater of 2014. VP should be 3 months later kua
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QUOTE(Vestor @ Jan 25 2013, 04:24 PM)
Just called, SA said the Condo Villa (4 storeys) 1st floor is selling at RM1.76million 2,525 sqft, comes up to about RM690+ psf, very steep indeed. Not sure how this 1st floor look like as SA said it comes with garden. There is no "ground floor", the next is 2nd, 3rd and 4th floor. Anyone been to the show house before?
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All I concern on the villa is the service charge is RM985/mth drool.gif
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QUOTE(yeap99 @ Jan 25 2013, 11:03 AM)
1508sqft?
Mine is RM530sf after 9% discount....i took non-DIBS which I think is better option...
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Yes, 1508 sf. Took non-DIBS and got 9% discount since we bought the units late. VP should be March 2014.

I bought a unit on the 26th ie. highest floor since I did not have much choice. Anyone has any experience about water leakage or overheating in a highest unit by Berjaya in the past? I was told the roof is at a higher level.

Thanks.

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jan 25 2013, 10:38 AM)
Wow. Big taikor spotted. 3 units altogether is not easy job.

I found quite a lot of families buying into BJ for 3-5 units together. Same goes to KR2 few members bought few units in one floor. Salute.

RM 520 psf is quite decent nowadays, is that 1500 sf onwards? Bcz i wanted to consider the 1300 sf one or two months ago, only left 2 units at lowest floor. Actually, KM1 West consider slow dy bcz the low dense units had launched since early 2011.

The catalyst u listed definitely worth to boost up the whole BJ. But without this, now BJ already in huge jam in peak hours esp Jalan Jalil Perkasa 1.

I couldnt imagine how, if all these condos completed in 2014/15 and this road if not extend further, which I see quite hard, would be in terrible jam further. Lol.
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Is the jam on Jalan Jalil Perkasa 1 towards the Kesas Highway in the morning? What about the opposite direction? Any idea how the traffic situation is like towards the Selangor Turf Club from the Calvary Convention Centre in the morning?

Thanks for the feedback.

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Yes, 1508 sf. Took non-DIBS and got 9% discount since we bought the units late. VP should be March 2014.

I bought a unit on the 26th ie. highest floor since I did not have much choice. Anyone has any experience about water leakage or overheating in a highest unit by Berjaya in the past? I was told the roof is at a higher level.

Thanks.

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Wau highest floor. Pls throw a party upon vp. Invite forumers to join k. Really want to go cc n experience the view! Got bekini gals or not wink.gif

I only invest in boring assets. Next time should change my strategy Hihi
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QUOTE(drchaw @ Jan 25 2013, 11:33 PM)
Yes, 1508 sf. Took non-DIBS and got 9% discount since we bought the units late. VP should be March 2014.

I bought a unit on the 26th ie. highest floor since I did not have much choice. Anyone has any experience about water leakage or overheating in a highest unit by Berjaya in the past? I was told the roof is at a higher level.

Thanks.

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Wow, you still can get the top floor on late purchase. Berjaya has play sticker games during launching. I remember both top two floor 25 and 26 floor units were stick with sticker during launching for both block alpha and beta.
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Yes, 1508 sf. Took non-DIBS and got 9% discount since we bought the units late. VP should be March 2014.

I bought a unit on the 26th ie. highest floor since I did not have much choice. Anyone has any experience about water leakage or overheating in a highest unit by Berjaya in the past? I was told the roof is at a higher level.

Thanks.

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What's the price b4 discount?
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For those of you buying purely to flip upon obtaining VP in 2015/2016, what kind of price psf are you expecting?
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[quote=cybermaster98,Jan 26 2013, 10:30 AM]For those of you buying purely to flip upon obtaining VP in 2015/2016, what kind of price psf are you expecting?
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Completion date for kM1 West is March 2014. I think the price can hit 700/sf in 1-2 years after that when most of the units are occupied and after kM1 East is completed.

Do you think kM1 East will appreciate much more (percentage wise) than kM1 West since the price is high to start of with? The higher the price, the smaller the market for it, IMHO.

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Completion date is March 2014. I think the price can hit 700/sf in 1-2 years after that when most of the units are occupied.
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Liquidity is the issue. Price may hold up but transaction may be thin
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Liquidity is the issue. Price may hold up but transaction may be thin
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Agreed. The higher the value of the property, the lower the liquidity. But the value will still be there provided the property is well-maintained.
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Is the jam on Jalan Jalil Perkasa 1 towards the Kesas Highway in the morning? What about the opposite direction? Any idea how the traffic situation is like towards the Selangor Turf Club from the Calvary Convention Centre in the morning?

Thanks for the feedback.

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Jam is mostly towards Kesas highway as there are lots of traffic from Puchong folks going to KL.

Opposite direction have much less traffic from KM1 towards Calvary church.

But after calvary church towards selangor turf club , it has more traffic.

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QUOTE(drchaw @ Jan 26 2013, 08:41 PM)
Agreed. The higher the value of the property, the lower the liquidity. But the value will still be there provided the property is well-maintained.
The problem which plagues new developments are those buying purely for investment either rental yield or capital appreciation. Many of them have the ability to pay downpayments (especially under DIBS) but lack the holding power when the units cant be sold at the predicted prices or rental cant cover the loans. That's when they start dumping the units at below market prices and this brings down the overall value of the property.

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Is the show room for km1 east open this weekend? Planning to place a visit tomorrow.
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Is the show room for km1 east open this weekend? Planning to place a visit tomorrow.
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Is the show room for km1 east open this weekend? Planning to place a visit tomorrow.
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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Jan 26 2013, 08:49 PM)
Jam is mostly towards Kesas highway as there are lots of traffic from Puchong folks going to KL.

Opposite direction have much less traffic from KM1 towards Calvary church.

But after calvary church towards selangor turf club , it has more traffic.
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Dear Jalsrix,

Thanks for the info. Hopefully the roads around Bukit Jalil will be widened or extra roads added, especially when all the malls are up and the Selangor Turf Club is redeveloped. I think the Sungai Besi-Puchong Highway needs to be widened due to the increased traffic. This could be a happening place in the near future.

Cheers!

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jan 26 2013, 08:54 PM)
The problem which plagues new developments are those buying purely for investment either rental yield or capital appreciation. Many of them have the ability to pay downpayments (especially under DIBS) but lack the holding power when the units cant be sold at the predicted prices or rental cant cover the loans. That's when they start dumping the units at below market prices and this brings down the overall value of the property.
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Yes, investors looking at quick profits can definitely spoil the value in the initial stages. But once the units are occupied, the value of the property will be based on the desirability of the place and how well it is maintained. Good tenants also dictate a higher value for the property. IMHO, the higher the price of a property, the more likely buyers purchase them for their own stay and there is less speculation. I think it would be risky to speculate on an expensive property in case it cannot be sold quickly and one will then be burdened with bank loan interest payments and hefty maintenance fees.
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QUOTE(drchaw @ Jan 27 2013, 12:40 AM)
Dear Jalsrix,

Thanks for the info. Hopefully the roads around Bukit Jalil will be widened or extra roads added, especially when all the malls are up and the Selangor Turf Club is redeveloped. I think the Sungai Besi-Puchong Highway needs to be widened due to the increased traffic. This could be a happening place in the near future.

Cheers!

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Something like ldp might happen, 2 tolls added ro the road and you got your road widened.

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QUOTE(drchaw @ Jan 27 2013, 12:40 AM)
Dear Jalsrix,

Thanks for the info. Hopefully the roads around Bukit Jalil will be widened or extra roads added, especially when all the malls are up and the Selangor Turf Club is redeveloped. I think the Sungai Besi-Puchong Highway needs to be widened due to the increased traffic. This could be a happening place in the near future.

Cheers!

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It can be tested how bad it is once ZR, KR1 and KM1 West VP next year while the Treez would be VP this year.

The proposed roads of Trinity, linked ZR to Bukit Jalil-Kinrara Highway and KR1/KR2/LRT linked to Jln Jalil Perkasa 1 might not be sufficient to reduce the current jam.

I see the importance of current Jln Jalil Perkasa 1, as it was the main roads which linked to every corner of BJ say Aked/Tmn Esplanade, KM1 West / KM1 East / KM 2, The Link, LRT/KR2/KR1, The Treez/AFC/Jalil Sutera/Seri Jalil/The Ritz stretch to Tmn Bukit Jalil/Twin Arkz from Kesas Highway to Bukit Jalil Kinrara Highway.

The current 2 lanes were definitely not sufficient enough, can be seen esp after 6pm, stuck all the way both traffics and BJ-Kinrara Highway also having terrible jam.

It can be treated as Persiaran more than a Jalan. Hopefully it can be extend further which I think a lot works need to be done and same goes to the BJ-Kinrara Highway, the 2 lanes road condition was quite bad due to LRT construction and if all these accessibility not improving, Jalil City mega commercial hub would be tough idea.

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QUOTE(drchaw @ Jan 27 2013, 12:40 AM)
Dear Jalsrix,

Thanks for the info. Hopefully the roads around Bukit Jalil will be widened or extra roads added, especially when all the malls are up and the Selangor Turf Club is redeveloped. I think the Sungai Besi-Puchong Highway needs to be widened due to the increased traffic. This could be a happening place in the near future.

Cheers!

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This is the current situation but in the future when the calvary church opens and it has a function going on, it will be jammed too. So both sides are jammed. laugh.gif

The calvary church is under construction now.
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jan 27 2013, 01:32 AM)
It can be tested how bad it is once ZR, KR1 and KM1 West VP next year while the Treez would be VP this year.

The proposed roads of Trinity, linked ZR to Bukit Jalil-Kinrara Highway and KR1/KR2/LRT linked to Jln Jalil Perkasa 1 might not be sufficient to reduce the current jam.

I see the importance of current Jln Jalil Perkasa 1, as it was the main roads which linked to every corner of BJ say Aked/Tmn Esplanade, KM1 West / KM1 East / KM 2, The Link, LRT/KR2/KR1, The Treez/AFC/Jalil Sutera/Seri Jalil/The Ritz stretch to Tmn Bukit Jalil/Twin Arkz from Kesas Highway to Bukit Jalil Kinrara Highway.

The current 2 lanes were definitely not sufficient enough, can be seen esp after 6pm, stuck all the way both traffics and BJ-Kinrara Highway also having terrible jam.

It can be treated as Persiaran more than a Jalan. Hopefully it can be extend further which I think a lot works need to be done and same goes to the BJ-Kinrara Highway, the 2 lanes road condition was quite bad due to LRT construction and if all these accessibility not improving, Jalil City mega commercial hub would be tough idea.
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From reliable source but unconfirmed, the road from awan besar all the way to Jalan Perkasa 1 will be 3 lane road each side.

Church is completed now installation stage. Theedge this week has news on Lai meng school. The School is ready for intake in 2014 term. So has to complete by this year. the Lai meng association will receive 148m cash as part compensation, this may make them one of the richest school in town.

So we will have one of the richest churches + school in bj.
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From reliable source but unconfirmed, the road from awan besar all the way to Jalan Perkasa 1 will be 3 lane road each side.

Church is completed now installation stage. Theedge this week has news on Lai meng school. The School is ready for intake in 2014 term. So has to complete by this year. the Lai meng association will receive 148m cash as part compensation, this may make them one of the richest school in town.

So we will have one of the richest churches + school in bj.
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gd to hear tat is 3-lane rd...look at bkt Jalil -puchong rd, only 2-lane, simply not enuf for d surrounding population sad.gif
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My surveyor friend told me there will be a flyover at Calvary church there whereby people exit from Calvary church can turn right in future.
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My surveyor friend told me there will be a flyover at Calvary church there whereby people exit from Calvary church can turn right in future.
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Into bj highway? Oh yes but this is a plan since long long time
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Hi bro pls update the sales of km1 west and east after visitation, if possible.
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Just back from showroom, villa left 4 units and the condo is more than 50% with sticker on it. 4 to 5 family there see see look look and plenty of RHB sales staff stationed there today.




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QUOTE(Onn88 @ Jan 27 2013, 04:07 PM)
Just back from showroom, villa left 4 units and the condo is more than 50% with sticker on it. 4 to 5 family there see see look look and plenty of RHB sales staff stationed there today.
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The sales are good if no sticker game.
Villa left 4 units? Wow...Malaysian are very rich nowadays...2M+ like buy in pasar
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QUOTE(Onn88 @ Jan 27 2013, 04:07 PM)
Just back from showroom, villa left 4 units and the condo is more than 50% with sticker on it. 4 to 5 family there see see look look and plenty of RHB sales staff stationed there today.
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For the left over units, what is the size like? Which floor are they located?
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The sales are good if no sticker game.
Villa left 4 units? Wow...Malaysian are very rich nowadays...2M+ like buy in pasar
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Lots of rich uncles staying in bungalow nearby. laugh.gif

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Lots of rich uncles staying in bungalow nearby.  laugh.gif
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Just for curiousity, how many bungalow lots are there beside the golf course?
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Bukit Jalil Golf and Country Resort has 3 parcels (A,B,C). Parcel A is by itself and the entrance is opposite the Greenfields apartments. Parcels B and C are joined together and the entrance is opposite the stadium, close to the Berjaya showroom. Overall there are about 100 homes which are facing the golf course, but some have partial views only.
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QUOTE(Onn88 @ Jan 27 2013, 04:07 PM)
Just back from showroom, villa left 4 units and the condo is more than 50% with sticker on it. 4 to 5 family there see see look look and plenty of RHB sales staff stationed there today.
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Wow. The villa seems much more attractive to the buyers instead of high floor condos.


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Seriously... Very rich.

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went to see KM1 East show house yesterday, very attractive and impressive, the sales chart shows 50% of the condo units are taken while the villas only couple of units, but with the price starting with more than RM 1 million, the sales actually not bad, i would say the response is good, meanwhile KM1 West only left 2 units (if not mistaken)
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My surveyor friend told me there will be a flyover at Calvary church there whereby people exit from Calvary church can turn right in future.
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Why so kind to Calvary church ? What's more needed is a U-turn at TPM without going through the TPM traffic lights.
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I'm in a dilemma whether to get KM1 East or double storey in Bukit Jalil / Kinrara. Is there any new double storey development within Bukit Jalil / Kinrara that is less than 1 mil?
Buying for own stay.
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I'm in a dilemma whether to get KM1 East or double storey in Bukit Jalil / Kinrara. Is there any new double storey development within Bukit Jalil / Kinrara that is less than 1 mil?
Buying for own stay.
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Both different animal boss.

KM 1 East, no doubt is one of the most luxury big size condo in BJ, with size min 1800+ sq feet onwards, as spacious as DSTH of 20x70.

I don't think BJ has anymore double storey launches, except Alam Sutera. Surrouding KM 1 side, definitely no more land for landed houses, and even if got, I don't think below RM 1mil, bcz cheapest landed in Esplanade / Jalil Sutera / Seri Jalil already hit RM 1.35 mil or above.

Bdr Kinrara, looks still have further phases for launches, but I doubt I&P would launch anything cheap from now on. Their latest completed serie of 22x75 Emerald already hitting above RM 900k. If I&P launch a serie of 22x75 instead of bigger foot print, maybe possible can get below RM 1mil ...



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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Mar 24 2013, 02:41 AM)
Both different animal boss.

KM 1 East, no doubt is one of the most luxury big size condo in BJ, with size min 1800+ sq feet onwards, as spacious as DSTH of 20x70.

I don't think BJ has anymore double storey launches, except Alam Sutera. Surrouding KM 1 side, definitely no more land for landed houses, and even if got, I don't think below RM 1mil, bcz cheapest landed in Esplanade / Jalil Sutera / Seri Jalil already hit RM 1.35 mil or above.

Bdr Kinrara, looks still have further phases for launches, but I doubt I&P would launch anything cheap from now on. Their latest completed serie of 22x75 Emerald already hitting above RM 900k. If I&P launch a serie of 22x75 instead of bigger foot print, maybe possible can get below RM 1mil ...
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That's why headache now since condo and landed are of different category. I prefer landed though but due to insufficient immediate cash flow at the moment.

My initial plan is to get subsale Emerald 22x75. Currently only 2 units left which is priced at RM 1mil already. Unless I take the unit facing junction (which I don't want to), then RM9xxk. The immediate costs I've to bear at the moment is a bit too high which includes SPA, legal fees etc. and have to start paying monthly loan now. Furthermore, I'll need to install autogate, grill, alarm and some renovation which are not cheap as well.

I've decided to look around but can't find new landed launches in Bukit Jalil/Bdr Kinrara (priced at RM 1mil and below. Bdr Kinrara will have new landed launches but all are Bungalows and Semi Ds.) so I go for condo instead. Since it's new and comes with DIBS, I don't have to fork out cash as much as my first choice, Emerald.

No doubt I like KM1 East. Currently priced at RM1.2mil for 1878 sqft. I start to compare KM1 East with Emerald.
KM1 East
Pros
- better security
- have facilities
- better location?

Cons
- more expensive
- smaller
- need to pay maintenance fees and sinking fund

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- cheaper
- bigger
- no maintenance fees except security by RA
- better location?

Cons
- normal security
- no facilities

In my opinion, for long term I believe KM1 East will be more costly due to the maintenance fees and sinking fund. Correct me if I'm wrong. At the moment I favour KM1 East and I hope I didn't make a wrong choice.

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what about Kinrara Residence - 2.3 or 3storey link?

Previously I stayed in landed link house for more than 10 years. Now in condo about 2000sf. Both have pro and cons. But my personal view is good security is a must of peace of mind.
On a longer term, I would like to move back to landed.




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I don't like Kinrara Residence 2.5 and 3 storey link design and the road leading to it (from the main road at the big signboard onwards, near 99 Speedmart) are terrible, uneven and lots of holes.
How long do you plan to stay in that condo?
What's the reason for you to move back to landed?
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QUOTE(AnimeAsia @ Mar 24 2013, 12:46 PM)
That's why headache now since condo and landed are of different category. I prefer landed though but due to insufficient immediate cash flow at the moment.

My initial plan is to get subsale Emerald 22x75. Currently only 2 units left which is priced at RM 1mil already. Unless I take the unit facing junction (which I don't want to), then RM9xxk. The immediate costs I've to bear at the moment is a bit too high which includes SPA, legal fees etc. and have to start paying monthly loan now. Furthermore, I'll need to install autogate, grill, alarm and some renovation which are not cheap as well.

I've decided to look around but can't find new landed launches in Bukit Jalil/Bdr Kinrara (priced at RM 1mil and below. Bdr Kinrara will have new landed launches but all are Bungalows and Semi Ds.) so I go for condo instead. Since it's new and comes with DIBS, I don't have to fork out cash as much as my first choice, Emerald.

No doubt I like KM1 East. Currently priced at RM1.2mil for 1878 sqft. I start to compare KM1 East with Emerald.
KM1 East
Pros
- better security
- have facilities
- better location?

Cons
- more expensive
- smaller
- need to pay maintenance fees and sinking fund

Emerald
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- cheaper
- bigger
- no maintenance fees except security by RA
- better location?

Cons
- normal security
- no facilities

In my opinion, for long term I believe KM1 East will be more costly due to the maintenance fees and sinking fund. Correct me if I'm wrong. At the moment I favour KM1 East and I hope I didn't make a wrong choice.
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Boss, it's glad that you have this luxury of choice to choose btw Emerald, BK vs KM 1 East, both different product at different place and different price / timing.

IMHO, Emerald BK is very nice, good workmanship and excellent quality, where I even recommend my friends who hunting DSTH at Puchong, to buy it. But, based on the size of 22x75, I found RM 1mil could be too high to step in and doesn't find any luxury living in normal landed houses of such size. Generally, people would think basically, which of course get a decent landed rather than a condo, but when we analyse the needs further, we might have the different answer.

No doubt, Emerald could be the nicest among DSTH in BK side, along with Sapphire, Qaseh as well as Kinrara Residence, where I do weigh in although the price tag is same but Leasehold, but it comes with club house and Gated/ Fenced & Guarded. While I&P products only comes with Fencing & Guarded with RA.
I even consider myself, Emerald only sold below RM 600k more than 2 years back and with this RM 1mil price tag, I rather go myself ;

1) To compare a similar I&P product, Pentas 3 at Alam Impian, RM 800k+, cheaper, 25x85, bigger and built up 3500 sq feet, spacious.
2) To consider Lakeside Residence Phase 4 at RM 780k, proper Gated & Guarded with club house too
3) To consider Kinrara Residence 2 1/2 storey, proper landed with Clubhouse.
4) To top up a bit, say 20% to RM 1.2mil, and hunt whether I able to get DSTH at Lake Edge, with proper Gated & Guarded.


In between, KM 1 East, as a condo, it is no doubt a high end and luxury condo in the piece of BJ heart. The identity is different when ppl heard you stay in KM 1 East comparing with Emerald BK9, where anyone stay in RM 1mil and above condo, would be affluent people. It is the most expensive condo in whole BJ, which, I personally think the location is much better compare to Emerald, BK.

The difference could be the S&P and MOT where you need to pay for subsales like Emerald and you save this if you opt for KM 1 East. The 1880 sq feet is very spacious and suitable for one who really likes security and worry of the landed's RA security which is quite lacking of. Maintenance fee is huge problem here if you're comparing it with landed, where for condo, bigger space creates higher maintenance fee for long.

In the other way, although I like landed, if Emerald vs KM 1 East, I would picks KM 1 East due to location, entry, security, family needs and exclusivity of being the most expensive condo in better location BJ, nearer to KL. The other options would be ;

1) To top up a bit from the RM 1.2mil to take a look at the landed in BJ such as Seri Jalil and Jalil Sutera.

Good Luck bro!

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Boss, it's glad that you have this luxury of choice to choose btw Emerald, BK vs KM 1 East, both different product at different place and different price / timing.
It's only recently I've the luxury to choose these types of property. 1 year ago I can barely afford 500k only.

QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Mar 24 2013, 03:37 PM)
I even consider myself, Emerald only sold below RM 600k more than 2 years back and with this RM 1mil price tag, I rather go myself ;
In just 2 years plus, Emerald appreciate from RM 600k to RM 1mil. Not just on paper but people actually buying it from subsale to stay. Those who bought Emerald for investment really earn a lot.

QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Mar 24 2013, 03:37 PM)
1) To compare a similar I&P product, Pentas 3 at Alam Impian, RM 800k+, cheaper, 25x85, bigger and built up 3500 sq feet, spacious.
2) To consider Lakeside Residence Phase 4 at RM 780k, proper Gated & Guarded with club house too
3) To consider Kinrara Residence 2 1/2 storey, proper landed with Clubhouse.
4) To top up a bit, say 20% to RM 1.2mil, and hunt whether I able to get DSTH at Lake Edge, with proper Gated & Guarded.

In between, KM 1 East, as a condo, it is no doubt a high end and luxury condo in the piece of BJ heart. The identity is different when ppl heard you stay in KM 1 East comparing with Emerald BK9, where anyone stay in RM 1mil and above condo, would be affluent people. It is the most expensive condo in whole BJ, which, I personally think the location is much better compare to Emerald, BK.

The difference could be the S&P and MOT where you need to pay for subsales like Emerald and you save this if you opt for KM 1 East. The 1880 sq feet is very spacious and suitable for one who really likes security and worry of the landed's RA security which is quite lacking of. Maintenance fee is huge problem here if you're comparing it with landed, where for condo, bigger space creates higher maintenance fee for long.

In the other way, although I like landed, if Emerald vs KM 1 East, I would picks KM 1 East due to location, entry, security, family needs and exclusivity of being the most expensive condo in better location BJ, nearer to KL. The other options would be ;

1) To top up a bit from the RM 1.2mil to take a look at the landed in BJ such as Seri Jalil and Jalil Sutera.

Good Luck bro!
1) Alam Impian is too far so I won't consider.
2) If Lakeside Residence is in Bdr Kinrara, I'll buy it without second thought. I don't like the ambience of Puchong.
4) I did consider Lake Edge before but Puchong and me just don't fit well.

Berjaya only bear legal fee on SPA for KM1 East. I still need to pay for MOT (not so soon though, mortgage consultant says after development completion) and loan agreement myself.

But Seri Jalil and Jalil Sutera are subsale also right?

Thanks bro!

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I don't like Kinrara Residence 2.5 and 3 storey link design and the road leading to it (from the main road at the big signboard onwards, near 99 Speedmart) are terrible, uneven and lots of holes.
How long do you plan to stay in that condo?
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I like staying in condo for the convenience and security and my place now is really nice. Condo management is good too. But I do miss some parts of the landed property. Eg. I have a dog and would like to have the freedom to let the dog have a run in the garden. I have bought a unit in Kinrara Residence, will see how it turns out and consider moving back. But I will not consider a unit without proper G&G, need the security
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QUOTE(AnimeAsia @ Mar 24 2013, 05:14 PM)
It's only recently I've the luxury to choose these types of property. 1 year ago I can barely afford 500k only.
In just 2 years plus, Emerald appreciate from RM 600k to RM 1mil. Not just on paper but people actually buying it from subsale to stay. Those who bought Emerald for investment really earn a lot.
1) Alam Impian is too far so I won't consider.
2) If Lakeside Residence is in Bdr Kinrara, I'll buy it without second thought. I don't like the ambience of Puchong.
4) I did consider Lake Edge before but Puchong and me just don't fit well.

Berjaya only bear legal fee on SPA for KM1 East. I still need to pay for MOT (not so soon though, mortgage consultant says after development completion) and loan agreement myself.

But Seri Jalil and Jalil Sutera are subsale also right?

Thanks bro!
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Wow, one year ago barely afford 500k and now jump to RM 1.2mil, that's great jump ...

Yup, for Emerald, I notice several RM 880k transactions during early VP days last year, and my friends bought it for RM 900k and RM 940k for own stay. However, RM 1mil is steep to move in based on the size of 22x75, but well, it's individual taste of own stay, hehehe.

I have the same thought as you abt Bdr Kinrara and Puchong. Agree that, in Puchong, I only favour the location of Bandar Kinrara though in my opinion, the location is too good for a failure master plan, where being a township of next to Bkt Jalil, KL and escape the route of IOI inter changed, the accessibility is consider poor based on the house prices here, couple with the majority phases allocation and built by I&P is quite weird like no direction of one here and another at other side.

Yes, Jalil Sutera is existing fenced and guarded with good security track record. While, it's opposite is Seri Jalil, a newly completed linked houses by Magna Prima. The other choice would be older phase of Taman Esplanade.

You can compare this along with KM 1 East.







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Yup, I was really lucky during the second half of last year. Had a sudden increase of income. If this happens 1 year earlier, I would have bought Emerald, then end of story... lol. 1 year makes a huge difference.
Maintenance fees for KM1 East for 1878 sqft for 30 years = RM 263k!

Thanks everyone for the opinion. biggrin.gif
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Hi All Sifu,

I am interested in this project but i would like to know if there is any detail measurement layout plan provided by berjaya for their property. I find it strange not to have a detail measurement plan because i been thru developers like SP Setia, IOI and i would say most of the developer does provide the measurement for the rooms, kitchen hall and etc. But Berjaya only provide a rough measurement of Length vs Width. So how would i know how big is the room if i want to compare to another project?

I have already called berjaya and they tell me that there is no detail plan and not even in the S&P. Meaning berjaya can re-size the rooms and kitchen as they like during this construction period?
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Went to the showroom last week. Only few unit left (<20 units). The lowest price I can get (after minus 5% bumi & 8% rebate) ard RM1.013m for smallest unit (1800++sqft) at 11th floor KL view. If I higher floor then have to add on another 10k and another 50k for golf view >.<
I'm still contemplating. Not sure a good investment or not. But I love the exclusivity KM1 East has to offer; the private lift lobby and 3 covered parking. Just that it's not fully furnished. They only provide 2 airconds, ceiling fans and plaster ceiling. I was hoping for free kitchen cabinets and built-in wardrobes as well biggrin.gif
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When they will launch the new service apartment?
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The 8% discount is given in lieu of DIBS option?
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Left with 20+ units mostly on unit 01 and 06. EZ payment for those who can't get 90% loan. Low rise villa around 60-70% sold.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/KM1-East-Buk...181133805408173
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Went to sales office today... Highrise left only few units... Compare to last visit about1-2 months ago, sales is picking up.. But lowrise still hv many units... whistling.gif Overall should be 80-85% sold... Looks like 1m-2m condos are well received in this part of KL.. hmm.gif

On the other hand.. Treez has just vp'ed... Berjaya should pay a visit to their competitor's product or at least browse tru the treez pics from iprop/propwall... Don't think berjaya is capable to come out with such an innovative + 'designer' product for the next 10 years.. whistling.gif whistling.gif they will keep telling their buyers 'our products are all very practical'... guess that's the only thing they can say.... doh.gif someday they will realize that for the past 10 years...so many new or small developers hv moved forward and ahead of them today.. doh.gif
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QUOTE(Dunbshy @ Nov 24 2013, 01:15 AM)
Went to sales office today... Highrise left only few units...  Compare to last visit about1-2 months ago, sales is picking up.. But lowrise still hv many units...  whistling.gif Overall should be 80-85% sold... Looks like 1m-2m condos are well received in this part of KL.. hmm.gif

On the other hand.. Treez has just vp'ed... Berjaya should pay a visit to their competitor's product or at least browse tru the treez pics from iprop/propwall... Don't think berjaya is capable to come out with such an innovative + 'designer' product for the next 10 years..  whistling.gif  whistling.gif  they will keep telling their buyers 'our products are all very practical'... guess that's the only thing they can say....  doh.gif  someday they will realize that for the past 10 years...so many new or small developers hv moved forward and ahead of them today..  doh.gif
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what is the latest offer now for KM1 west? only 8% discount? still got DIBS?
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what is the latest offer now for KM1 west? only 8% discount? still got DIBS?
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Treez or KM1 which one is better?
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Any subsales being transacted yet? Im more interested in actual subsales as that is a reflection of the actual market conditions. Sales of new launches do not reflect the reality on the ground. If a developer manages to achieve 90% sales that doesnt mean that investors will get good capital appreciation upon VP.
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Any subsales being transacted yet? Im more interested in actual subsales as that is a reflection of the actual market conditions. Sales of new launches do not reflect the reality on the ground. If a developer manages to achieve 90% sales that doesnt mean that investors will get good capital appreciation upon VP.
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my friend just bought The Treez...subsale...950K...1440sf.... at high floor
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QUOTE(simeonelee78 @ Jan 13 2014, 08:34 AM)
my friend just bought The Treez...subsale...950K...1440sf.... at high floor
RM 660psf. What was the original purchase price of this unit?
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RM 660psf. What was the original purchase price of this unit?
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not so sure....about 500psf to 550psf 3 years back
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QUOTE(simeonelee78 @ Jan 13 2014, 10:00 AM)
not so sure....about 500psf to 550psf 3 years back
Did your friend get a 90% loan for this unit he purchased?
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Did your friend get a 90% loan for this unit he purchased?
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he buying cash...
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QUOTE(simeonelee78 @ Jan 13 2014, 10:19 AM)
he buying cash...
Ok so this doesnt quite tell you the market rates of the condo since he didnt get a loan and i suppose no obligation to do a property valuation.
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Any subsales being transacted yet? Im more interested in actual subsales as that is a reflection of the actual market conditions. Sales of new launches do not reflect the reality on the ground. If a developer manages to achieve 90% sales that doesnt mean that investors will get good capital appreciation upon VP.
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Yes, several subsales transacted recently.
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Yes, several subsales transacted recently.
Whats the valuation for KR1 and subsequently your thoughts on pricing for KR2 in early 2016?
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Passby KR2 office opppsite km1 today. Got one banner at their sales office for subsale of KR2 for 580k

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QUOTE(ceveori @ Jan 14 2014, 06:22 PM)
not much profit leh  hmm.gif
100-150psf profit isnt much? shocking.gif
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yup...good for subsale...cos is plenty of room for appreciation....

target 8xxpsf...after 2 years...20% up for current 650-680psf...

with considering future shopping malls & commercials....location & public transport well coonected...10% up per year should be achiveable....

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yup...good for subsale...cos is plenty of room for appreciation....

target 8xxpsf...after 2 years...20% up for current 650-680psf...

with considering future shopping malls & commercials....location & public transport well coonected...10% up per year should be achiveable....
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Agree with you, simonlee78.
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Passby KR2 office opppsite km1 today. Got one banner at their sales office for subsale of KR2 for 580k
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If not mistaken, the banner is for KR1 subsale, not KR2.

The appointed SA has nothing to sell atm, thus selling KR1 subsales.

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QUOTE(simeonelee78 @ Jan 15 2014, 08:35 AM)
yup...good for subsale...cos is plenty of room for appreciation....

target 8xxpsf...after 2 years...20% up for current 650-680psf...

with considering future shopping malls & commercials....location & public transport well coonected...10% up per year should be achiveable....
Ru sure? 8xx psf in 2016 with the current stagnation/slump and banks already tightening lending? If 8xx psf in this area in 2016, then what will the prices be in other prime areas? Who's gonna buy subsales at these prices when there are no discounts, free SPA, free legal fees, etc that new launch buyers are enjoying (to a certain extent)? How many ppl can actually afford to buy at such prices? Even now there are many condo's in Mont Kiara that are half empty with no tenants while owners are finding it hard to offload especially the bigger units.


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Ru sure? 8xx psf in 2016 with the current stagnation/slump and banks already tightening lending? If 8xx psf in this area in 2016, then what will the prices be in other prime areas? Who's gonna buy subsales at these prices when there are no discounts, free SPA, free legal fees, etc that new launch buyers are enjoying (to a certain extent)? How many ppl can actually afford to buy at such prices? Even now there are many condo's in Mont Kiara that are half empty with no tenants while owners are finding it hard to offload especially the bigger units.
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like I said....target...predict...but 8xx psf for me is achiveable....

if the price stagnant for this year or until next year...is not only good for me...but to those who going to invest or buy for own stay at Bkt Jalil....

Bkt Jalil still is my one of favourite place for living....
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Hmm, u guys discussing KM1 West or East?

RM 800+ psf by 2016, is not easy if for KM 1 East although it is achievable. The sales rate is comfortable at 75%++ for Berjaya in just ard a year time. But Treez now hardly move at higher asking price. Big sizes not easy as usual but the only compliment I can predict abt Km 1 East would be it is the only large size high end condo in whole BJ, thus lesser competition like in MK.

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jan 16 2014, 09:31 AM)
Hmm, u guys discussing KM1 West or East?

RM 800+ psf by 2016, is not easy if for KM 1 East although it is achievable. The sales rate is comfortable at 75%++ for Berjaya in just ard a year time. But Treez now hardly move at higher asking price. Big sizes not easy as usual but the only compliment I can predict abt Km 1 East would be it is the only large size high end condo in whole BJ, thus lesser competition like in MK.
Yes agreed. The KV market in general is moving away from big units simply due to affordability. Ppl dont mind paying 500K for a pigeon hole compared to 1 million for a 1500 sf unit. The psf is not so important for them any longer. Its all about affordability. Thats why i dont see prices in Bukit Jalil ever breaching the RM800 psf levels in the near future. We are no longer in the 2009-2010 bull market. 2012 was the tail end of the bull market with 2013 showing signs of stagnation and softening. Only the new launches were enjoying good take up rates while subsales were dropping. Now in 2014, even the new launches are slowing down drastically. These are all signs that we're heading for a slow down. How long it lasts and how bad it will be is anybody's guess.

2014 is not going to be a good year for many Malaysians. Rising inflation brought about by the rising prices of essential goods will eat into income leaving less disposable income for investment / property purchase. This would mean that the pool of investors capable of buying bigger / higher end condo's in the subsale market would be greatly reduced. Property owners can advertise their properties at whatever prices they wish but ultimately we still need purchasers who can afford to buy at those prices and get loans in the process.

I think a good indicator for Bukit Jalil would be the Kiara Residence 1 condo (which many of us are monitoring closely). If subsales here are poor in 2014, then we know what to expect for the other condo's.

We shouldnt count our eggs before they are hatched especially in the current economic climate.


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any showroom still available in berjaya?
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QUOTE(chenster @ Nov 10 2014, 01:51 PM)
is this unit fully sold out?
any showroom still available in berjaya?
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the last time i email smwhere August of the year. they do hv few unit unsold. belwo is what i received.

http://www.berjayaproperties.com/KM1East.php

U can give them a call; definetly they will service/answer

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Nov 10 2014, 01:56 PM)
the last time i email smwhere August of the year. they do hv few unit unsold.

http://www.berjayaproperties.com/KM1East.php

U can give them a call; definetly they will service/answer

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oooh.. alright.. i'll give them a visit this weekend..
in the meantime checking out any latest developments..
but 4% rebate only? hmm..
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oooh.. alright.. i'll give them a visit this weekend..
in the meantime checking out any latest developments..
but 4% rebate only? hmm..
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this reply i got on august...anyting can change.

U want to get more rebate you can get from VT.
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hahaha.. yea.. so happen VT my uncle.. lol
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Wow 39 cent psf plus such big unit some more. OMG! Sakit!
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QUOTE(ivanpei @ Nov 10 2014, 09:48 PM)
Wow 39 cent psf plus such big unit some more. OMG! Sakit!
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Considering low density (157 units) with private lift and 3 carparks... hmm.gif Including 6% GST = RM0.4134psf or additional RM43.60/mth for the 1878sf unit. vmad.gif
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Any owners in km1 east smile.gif
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Any owners in km1 east smile.gif
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jan 16 2014, 09:53 AM)
Yes agreed. The KV market in general is moving away from big units simply due to affordability. Ppl dont mind paying 500K for a pigeon hole compared to 1 million for a 1500 sf unit. The psf is not so important for them any longer. Its all about affordability. Thats why i dont see prices in Bukit Jalil ever breaching the RM800 psf levels in the near future. We are no longer in the 2009-2010 bull market. 2012 was the tail end of the bull market with 2013 showing signs of stagnation and softening. Only the new launches were enjoying good take up rates while subsales were dropping. Now in 2014, even the new launches are slowing down drastically. These are all signs that we're heading for a slow down. How long it lasts and how bad it will be is anybody's guess.

2014 is not going to be a good year for many Malaysians. Rising inflation brought about by the rising prices of essential goods will eat into income leaving less disposable income for investment / property purchase. This would mean that the pool of investors capable of buying bigger / higher end condo's in the subsale market would be greatly reduced. Property owners can advertise their properties at whatever prices they wish but ultimately we still need purchasers who can afford to buy at those prices and get loans in the process.

I think a good indicator for Bukit Jalil would be the Kiara Residence 1 condo (which many of us are monitoring closely). If subsales here are poor in 2014, then we know what to expect for the other condo's.

We shouldnt count our eggs before they are hatched especially in the current economic climate.
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After a dramatic rise in price of properties ....
Current graph pattern showed a more stable trend with possibility of price going down due to excessive supply and poor demand.

BJ properties are generally a myriad with most condos being in the medium cost group..i wouldnt group KR together with KM lo to be honest..
However,i do believe BJ will breach 800psf...and even move up to 1k psf in the future..
It has all that one needs..

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QUOTE(Iam Power @ Mar 26 2015, 04:19 PM)
After a dramatic rise in price of properties ....
Current graph pattern showed a more stable trend with possibility of price going down due to excessive supply and poor demand.

BJ properties are generally a myriad with most condos being in the medium cost group..i wouldnt group KR together with KM lo to be honest..
However,i do believe BJ will breach 800psf...and even move up to 1k psf in the future..
It has all that one needs..
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I still believe its a stagnant movement for the period of 2015 until year end.

For the year 2014 till now, we see good responses for newly launched ParkHill and Casa Green Bkt Jalil, albeit both medium end series at RM 500 psf circa. Meanwhile, sales not bad for the biggies of The Rainz.

For subsales, we have seen some performances of KR1 and ZR. The small sizes are moving very well and closed at RM 600 psf. Espin KR1, where small size did performed tremendously well. However, it may seem not a success rate for biggies, 1400 sq ft onwards for both KR1 and ZR, havouring RM 530 psf due to lack of demand and some owners willing to let go at anv price due to previous purchased was only RM 350 psf circa.

For higher end, notice some mere transactions of Covillea 1293 sq ft at RM 850k-870k, prices that almost up to RM 680 psf but Korean buyers always asked for lower price to secured a seller whenever they decided to sell. KM 1 West approaching RM 700 psf as at Dec 2014. The Treez, forgot.


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I'm not sure about the richie rich, but I find it's hard to swallow a condo at RM1.6M base on 800psf. For those who has such budget, there are too many options out there in BJ/KV. There are already agents advertising RM1.6-1.7M in Iprop trying to drive up the sub sales price.

All I can say is this project could become a new benchmark for luxury condo in BJ area.
Also will depend how 'luxury' this project will be, and not to forget the overall economy in Asia is not going to be good for at least 2 yrs. cry.gif

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I'm not sure about the richie rich, but I find it's hard to swallow a condo at RM1.6M base on 800psf. For those who has such budget, there are too many options out there in BJ/KV. There are already agents advertising RM1.6-1.7M in Iprop trying to drive up the sub sales price.

All I can say is this project could become a new benchmark for luxury condo in BJ area.
Also will depend how 'luxury' this project will be, and not to forget the overall economy in Asia is not going to be good for at least 2 yrs.  cry.gif
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Fuyoh.... already 1.6m are they nuts? I don't think transaction in the KM1 area is pretty high. Also, that area mostly family and working class staying. Anyone got the balls to use it as investment going to get burnt hard but do share... is something interesting to me XD
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lai lai lai is there any KM1 East owners?

latest information i got is that KM1 East will be completed 1Q of 2016.

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I m genuine buyer looking for km1 east unit 1800sqt, any owner here wanted to sell pls let me know. Key collection for km east i think is about mid year 2016. Pls contact me once key ready for viewing. thanks.
No property agent pls.
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Hard sell man 800psf. The rainz big units only 550psf. Though location not as good for the rainz, but 800psf a hard sell.
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Hard sell man 800psf. The rainz big units only 550psf. Though location not as good for the rainz, but 800psf a hard sell.
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Link2 would be better than km1 if you okay w commercial at downstairs. Be ready for all the top berjaya retail store there
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Hard sell man 800psf. The rainz big units only 550psf. Though location not as good for the rainz, but 800psf a hard sell.
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I visited these 2 showroom (KM1 East 2000sf / Rainz 1900sf) end of last year and they are totally different beast altogether. Location wise, Rainz has to endure the kind of pack density while KM1 East is on the lower density area.

Both are targeted for own stay especially families, but KM1 East has better designed such as individual bathroom for each room and a shared bathroom, while Rainz do not have individual bathroom for all the rooms, but the Maid Room has it's own attached bathroom. Rainz kitchen is not big enough given the size of the unit. There are other stuff such as, KM1 has private lift lobby, high headroom, spacious balcony etc, while Rainz separated the balcony area with a lanai.

Rainz has much much better facilities with 4 parking space while KM1 offers 3 (if i remembered well).. Rainz has better value for monies as i saw they practically includes lots of stuff into the price while KM1 almost nothing. I checked with KM1 showroom personnel that they have quite a number of foreign buyers, China, quite a number HK buyers and some other countries too..

I believe KM1 probably is for the richie rich, more private, where the higher prices comes with lower density and Rainz is more towards a value for monies approach for a typical local family....

I don't have that kind of budget to purchase any of this, but sure interesting to see the demographics of it...


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This place got gas line or stove use electric only ?
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jan 15 2014, 07:31 PM)
Hmm, u guys discussing KM1 West or East?

RM 800+ psf by 2016, is not easy if for KM 1 East although it is achievable. The sales rate is comfortable at 75%++ for Berjaya in just ard a year time. But Treez now hardly move at higher asking price. Big sizes not easy as usual but the only compliment I can predict abt Km 1 East would be it is the only large size high end condo in whole BJ, thus lesser competition like in MK.
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hi bro any comment on yr earlier prediction when the km1 west is still at 630-650psf for 1335 sqft vs much bigger sixes but NEW km1 east..
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Dec 2 2015, 08:55 AM)
hi bro any comment on yr earlier prediction when the km1 west is still at 630-650psf for 1335 sqft vs much bigger sixes but NEW km1 east..
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Km1 so lauzy design and facilities still can achieve 650psf ah??
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Dec 2 2015, 07:55 AM)
hi bro any comment on yr earlier prediction when the km1 west is still at 630-650psf for 1335 sqft vs much bigger sixes but NEW km1 east..
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Guess my comment was abt KM 1 East to hit RM 800 psf which I thought it was not easy.

My prediction now remains the same, very tough to move by 2016.
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Dec 2 2015, 11:39 AM)
Guess my comment was abt KM 1 East to hit RM 800 psf which I thought it was not easy.

My prediction now remains the same, very tough to move by 2016.
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RM 800 psf not now but wait till MRT station, Pavillion 2, Paradigm Mall in OUG and lastly MRCB's KL Garden City is up and running.

With ease of access to KL via MEX, to top it off supported by 3 train stations. Bukit Jalil is definitely a strategic place to be, even though the developer sux lemon.
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Dec 1 2015, 09:39 PM)
Guess my comment was abt KM 1 East to hit RM 800 psf which I thought it was not easy.

My prediction now remains the same, very tough to move by 2016.
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so 740psf doable in 2016? what was d launch price after *****

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so 740psf doable in 2016? what was d launch price after *****
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Not sure bro.

I think launch price for KM 1 East was RM 600 psf ono.

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Dec 2 2015, 12:39 PM)
Not sure bro.

I think launch price for KM 1 East was RM 600 psf ono.
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RM 645 psf to be exact.
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RM 645 psf to be exact.
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Oh thx boss. Is this RM 645 already after 5%?

If it is, add 3 yrs construction interest, potential 2% agent fee upon disposal and RPGT 20%, the extra costs incurred should be approximately another RM 50 psf.

Then the cost of holding could jack up to RM 695-700 psf. If sell at RM 750 psf, not much earn but waste time.

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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Dec 2 2015, 12:47 PM)
RM 800 psf not now but wait till MRT station, Pavillion 2, Paradigm Mall in OUG and lastly MRCB's KL Garden City is up and running.

With ease of access to KL via MEX, to top it off supported by 3 train stations. Bukit Jalil is definitely a strategic place to be, even though the developer sux lemon.
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800psf cos of the 3rd standard pavilion mall here and next fail parasite mall
I will spend 1kpsf for klcc to have 1st standard pavilion mall, shopping hub, facilities, transportation hub.
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Dec 2 2015, 02:32 PM)
Oh thx boss. Is this RM 645 already after 5%?

If it is, add 3 yrs construction interest, potential 2% agent fee upon disposal and RPGT 20%, the extra costs incurred should be approximately another RM 50 psf.

Then the cost of holding could jack up to RM 695-700 psf. If sell at RM 750 psf, not much earn but waste time.
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RM 645 psf before 5%.

I quote myself...

QUOTE(aurora97 @ Mar 27 2015, 10:25 PM)
Fuyoh.... already 1.6m are they nuts? I don't think transaction in the KM1 area is pretty high. Also, that area mostly family and working class staying. Anyone got the balls to use it as investment going to get burnt hard but do share... is something interesting to me XD
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QUOTE(ryan@chua @ Dec 2 2015, 02:53 PM)
800psf cos of the 3rd standard pavilion mall here and next fail parasite mall
I will spend 1kpsf for klcc to have 1st standard pavilion mall, shopping hub, facilities, transportation hub.
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probable. besides, which other condominium in KL has a golf view wink.gif
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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Dec 2 2015, 04:06 PM)
RM 645 psf before 5%.

I quote myself...
probable. besides, which other condominium in KL has a golf view wink.gif
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So pity to stay in kl cos only golf view to choose...golf view ler...bro .. golf view I look at it nothing at all.. forest even better than golf lar.
Then I will buy and stay in iskandar for the sea view.
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QUOTE(ryan@chua @ Dec 2 2015, 03:28 PM)
So pity to stay in kl cos only golf view to choose...golf view ler...bro .. golf view I look at it nothing at all.. forest even better than golf lar.
Then I will buy and stay in iskandar for the sea view.
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Put it this waylar, you like vanilla and i like chocolate ice cream. at the end of the day, we all get to eat ice cream.


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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Dec 2 2015, 03:58 PM)
Put it this waylar, you like vanilla and i like chocolate ice cream. at the end of the day, we all get to eat ice cream.
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Wah, a very good quote wohh ...

Hehe, I like Chocolate ice cream too, I dont mind to pay RM 3 for it even though if the Vanilla is cost lesser at RM 2.8, however, if the Cholate ice cream is higher price at RM 3.5, I might be buying the RM 2.8 or RM 3 vanilla ice cream, hehehehe. I would see both price at the end and weigh the options.

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Dec 2 2015, 05:10 PM)
Wah, a very good quote wohh ...

Hehe, I like Chocolate ice cream too, I dont mind to pay RM 3 for it even though if the Vanilla is cost lesser at RM 2.8, however, if the Cholate ice cream is higher price at RM 3.5, I might be buying the RM 2.8 or RM 3 vanilla ice cream, hehehehe. I would see both price at the end and weigh the options.
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As long as you do your own due diligence and you think the price is worth the property your buying go ahead by all means. Let the buyer beware.

Am not encouraging anyone to buy up the property in KM1 east, am just interested to know of the developments surrounding KM1 east.

It's only natural as an owner that i would like to know more about my surrounding. cool2.gif
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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Dec 2 2015, 05:20 PM)
As long as you do your own due diligence and you think the price is worth the property your buying go ahead by all means. Let the buyer beware.

Am not encouraging anyone to buy up the property in KM1 east, am just interested to know of the developments surrounding KM1 east.

It's only natural as an owner that i would like to know more about my surrounding.  cool2.gif
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Someone who buy KM 1 East now could be diff pool of buyers or must be elite group who would only compare with landed or The Treez. Others highrises cannot compare at Bkt Jalil.

U r owner of KM 1 West or East? Not good?

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Dec 2 2015, 05:10 PM)
Wah, a very good quote wohh ...

Hehe, I like Chocolate ice cream too, I dont mind to pay RM 3 for it even though if the Vanilla is cost lesser at RM 2.8, however, if the Cholate ice cream is higher price at RM 3.5, I might be buying the RM 2.8 or RM 3 vanilla ice cream, hehehehe. I would see both price at the end and weigh the options.
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QUOTE(ryan@chua @ Dec 2 2015, 01:28 AM)
So pity to stay in kl cos only golf view to choose...golf view ler...bro .. golf view I look at it nothing at all.. forest even better than golf lar.
Then I will buy and stay in iskandar for the sea view.
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I hv never been to any golf course in MSIA as POORLY maintained as Bukit jalil GCC.. Hope they cn do something abt d overal upkeep of d golf course..
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Dec 2 2015, 05:53 PM)
Someone who buy KM 1 East now could be diff pool of buyers or must be elite group who would only compare with landed or The Treez. Others highrises cannot compare at Bkt Jalil.

U r owner of KM 1 West or East? Not good?
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I do agree Berjaya is a lousy developer and I also agree that their golf club is lousy and poorly maintained, can't compare with klgcc or royal Selangor right? Good thing is, they rehabilitated the fairway, so at least you look out your window... U can see a decent golf course. I can't say the same for the club house though, looks like a run down shack.

Am pretty familiar with bukit jalil cause I am currently staying there in existing Berjaya project also.

I choose km 1 east coz of the convenience of getting to KL n also cause of my expanding family, the extra space is definitely a plus and so is the privacy. Didn't want the hassle of landed or compared with any other developments. I am not ignorant of what Exsim GRP has done, I really liked their Condo but km1 east came first and I had good choice of unit and the connection helped wink.gif .
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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Dec 2 2015, 08:35 PM)
I do agree Berjaya is a lousy developer and I also agree that their golf club is lousy and poorly maintained, can't compare with klgcc or royal Selangor right? Good thing is, they rehabilitated the fairway, so at least you look out your window... U can see a decent golf course. I can't say the same for the club house though, looks like a run down shack.

Am pretty familiar with bukit jalil cause I am currently staying there in existing Berjaya project also.

I choose km 1 east coz of the convenience of getting to KL n also cause of my expanding family, the extra space is definitely a plus and so is the privacy.  Didn't want the hassle of landed or compared with any other developments. I am not ignorant of what Exsim GRP has done, I really liked their Condo but km1 east came first and I had good choice of unit and the connection helped wink.gif .
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+1 Boss. Very fair comment

Honestly I like KM 1 bcz of good entrance and its land or location among whole Bkt Jalil. Its a bit classic or conventional although not modern like The Treez, but I still like it.
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KM1 East VP already. Berjaya changed the design slightly. We are supposed to have private lift lobby, which is enclosed with walls. Now, one of the wall changed to grill. We no longer have privacy due to this. Is grill cheaper than having a wall?
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KM1 East VP already. Berjaya changed the design slightly. We are supposed to have private lift lobby, which is enclosed with walls. Now, one of the wall changed to grill. We no longer have privacy due to this. Is grill cheaper than having a wall?
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More airy? Better air flow?
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KM1 East VP already. Berjaya changed the design slightly. We are supposed to have private lift lobby, which is enclosed with walls. Now, one of the wall changed to grill. We no longer have privacy due to this. Is grill cheaper than having a wall?
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seriously?
wait till i VP this Saturday.

Come owners let's all unite smile.gif bruce.gif

Going to kick start Berjaya KM 1 East whatapp group. Please PM your mobile and unit number for inclusion.

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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Mar 18 2016, 04:25 PM)
seriously?
wait till i VP this Saturday.

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My advice is don't set your expectations too high.
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Nothing surprises me anymore.

Btw have u joined the KM1 East owner group?

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Traffic jam is going to worsen after KM1 and KM2

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3906532

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I have taken my key about 3 months back. I must say my past few months experience dealing with the developer is worth to be shared with others.

I will be sharing my experience shortly and hopefully it does help any future / prospective buyers.
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Does this thing hv solid timber flooring or marble flooring...?
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Does this thing hv solid timber flooring or marble flooring...?
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The Villa type does come with Marble flooring + timber in room.

The high-rise come with tiles + timber in room.

However the timber flooring according to the developer is a floating timber system, which will produce squeaky sound, and some hollowness on the edges. Again according to the developer, is expected behavior.
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haha, I like kiathau, being so honestly sarcastic about Seng Kung...
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post Jul 13 2016, 10:33 PM

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Few months after VP, had a few observations and would love to hear from all experts if this is common,

Non-sensitive access at boom-gate, and private lift lobby card reader.
According to developer, the boom-gate does provide long range scanning, however it doesn't seems to work on both of my cars, tried many positions, 80% of the time i need to wind down my passenger window for it to works properly; the lift car card reader takes 5 to 10 seconds response. Is this common? Anyway to improve the scanning sensitivity.

Lack of facility / equipment in common facility
Game room, and reading room were provided, however it is pretty empty. Is it common that only parcel is provided?
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Do you think the reader is placed too far away from the door?
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Defects in Unit
I am no expert in how fixes can be done, however i noticed the following fix is applied on my rain shower (as it vibrates upon usage).
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Also is it okay to use wood for balcony railing? As i noticed multiple crack lines on join area.
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Common Defects and Fixing
Again, i am no expert on how fixing can / should be done, however i do think there are better ways to do things, don't it?
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Isn't the screw punch through the door?
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I have no idea what is this, any advise?
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post Jul 13 2016, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(surf-it @ Jul 13 2016, 09:48 PM)
haha, I like kiathau, being so honestly sarcastic about Seng Kung...
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No sarcastic la... i am just telling what i have been told.
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QUOTE(kiathau @ Jul 13 2016, 09:35 PM)
Hi empatTan,

The Villa type does come with Marble flooring + timber in room.

The high-rise come with tiles + timber in room.

However the timber flooring according to the developer is a floating timber system, which will produce squeaky sound, and some hollowness on the edges. Again according to the developer, is expected behavior.
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So in other words, developer just give some cheap laminated flooring & gip some marketing bs...
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QUOTE(empatTan @ Jul 14 2016, 08:55 PM)
So in other words, developer just give some cheap laminated flooring & gip some marketing bs...
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Market as luxury property. But I don't feel it is luxury at all.
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QUOTE(kiathau @ Jul 13 2016, 10:53 PM)
No sarcastic la... i am just telling what i have been told.
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but honestly I feel you ... and Seng Kung really need to so sth to bring back their reps
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QUOTE(kiathau @ Jul 13 2016, 10:33 PM)
Few months after VP, had a few observations and would love to hear from all experts if this is common,

Non-sensitive access at boom-gate, and private lift lobby card reader.
According to developer, the boom-gate does provide long range scanning, however it doesn't seems to work on both of my cars, tried many positions, 80% of the time i need to wind down my passenger window for it to works properly; the lift car card reader takes 5 to 10 seconds response. Is this common? Anyway to improve the scanning sensitivity.

BS! shitty developer basically choose an inferior standard product at the lowest cost.

Lack of facility / equipment in common facility
Game room, and reading room were provided, however it is pretty empty. Is it common that only parcel is provided?
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unfortunately it is a grey area. developer are just providing space for the intent. some better ones would go to the extent of filling it up with the software besides the hardware. can't fault them on this.

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Do you think the reader is placed too far away from the door?
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definitely. it can be mounted on the aluminium mullion. probably an oversight by them. too bad. can still be rerouted since the mullion is usually hollow and can accomodate wires.

Defects in Unit
I am no expert in how fixes can be done, however i noticed the following fix is applied on my rain shower (as it vibrates upon usage).
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lol. no comment.

Also is it okay to use wood for balcony railing? As i noticed multiple crack lines on join area.
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it's okay but not ideal.

Common Defects and Fixing
Again, i am no expert on how fixing can / should be done, however i do think there are better ways to do things, don't it?
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agree.

Isn't the screw punch through the door?
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it's a defect. get the MA/JMB to claim from developer else withhold the balance %

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I have no idea what is this, any advise?
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no idea. probably some timer or electrical stuff.

good luck bro.
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post Jul 15 2016, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Jul 15 2016, 08:07 AM)
no idea. probably some timer or electrical stuff.

good luck bro.
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Thanks bro kochin.

This is just part of my observations, i have a longer list but i have yet to compile.

I was trying to highlight all these observation to the developer, and following is the chronology,

- We had 2 meetings with developer (Marketing GM, Project Director, Operation Manager and etc were there), architects and the rest of them and highlighted all the issues (of cause the list is growing).
- I personally prepare the minutes and notes and send to the developer for follow up (for both meeting).
- From 16 April 2016 until now we only received 1 reply in 16 May 2016, until today, no matter what reminder we sent, no response received.

Since i can't get any feedback / response, what should i do? Any other channels that i can escalate to?

I am really running out of ideas and hence shouting help over here.
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To add on, i received an epic reply from the condo's Property Manager. After sending emails to them for three (3) months saying that all complaints to be submitted via the management office.

The way they handle is driving me crazy!
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Ask them to give u real timber flooring + marble. Hahaha
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QUOTE(kochin @ Jul 15 2016, 08:07 AM)
no idea. probably some timer or electrical stuff.

good luck bro.
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New discovery on the non-sensitive main gate access,
- Problem arise after VP, in March 2016, and for the past 3-4 months we are suffering with the non-sensitive main gate access, which most of the time i have to wind down my passenger window to get it works.
- Had meeting with develop on April which they promised to conduct a survey to validate how many owners facing the problems and the symptoms, have not seen any of those being conducted.
- Sent numerous complaint emails over the past 3 months to the developer non were responded.
- Finally, a response from the developer on mid July 2016, the summary of the statement is,

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The access card system is working well after adjustments. Most owners do not have any problem except a few owners may experience some difficulties which could be due to heavy tinting of their cars or the access cards are not positioned correctly


- Question, how do we derive the conclusion on heavily tinted car affecting the sensitivity, is there a proof? Any supporting facts on this justification?
- Finally, i had a chat with the contractor servicing at the condo and he taught me the proper way of holding the access card, and voola, i have no problem scanning the card in / out.
- Question, who should be first conducting all these diagnostic and solutions, and who should be communicating this alternative to the owners?

Lift car card reader
- Problem arise after the card reader were placed within the lift panel.
- Any scanning of the card takes 3 to 10 seconds and very the reading sensitivity is inconsistent.
- Sent numerous complaint emails over the past 3 months to the developer non were responded.
- Finally, a response from the developer on mid July 2016, the summary of the statement is,

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After deliberation, our management decided that for the convenience of the owners, functionality should prevail over aesthetics. We will instruct our contractor to place back the card readers to their original position in the lifts, which is outside the lift panels. We will not entertain any more requests from owners with regards to the position of the card readers.


- On the same chat with the contractor servicing the condo, I was told that our access card has two (2) parts, the long range chip and proximity chips. If we were to scan it on where the proximity chip located, the scanning should be more sensitive, and I have personally tested it, on certain part / position, the scanning is more sensitive, all we need now is to know exactly where the proximity chip located.
- Question puzzling me, who should be first conducting all these diagnostic and solutions, and who should be communicating this alternative to the owners? Why are we moving backward?


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QUOTE(kiathau @ Jul 19 2016, 11:07 AM)
New discovery on the non-sensitive main gate access,
- Problem arise after VP, in March 2016, and for the past 3-4 months we are suffering with the non-sensitive main gate access, which most of the time i have to wind down my passenger window to get it works.
- Had meeting with develop on April which they promised to conduct a survey to validate how many owners facing the problems and the symptoms, have not seen any of those being conducted.
- Sent numerous complaint emails over the past 3 months to the developer non were responded.
- Finally, a response from the developer on mid July 2016, the summary of the statement is,
- Question, how do we derive the conclusion on heavily tinted car affecting the sensitivity, is there a proof? Any supporting facts on this justification?
- Finally, i had a chat with the contractor servicing at the condo and he taught me the proper way of holding the access card, and voola, i have no problem scanning the card in / out.
- Question, who should be first conducting all these diagnostic and solutions, and who should be communicating this alternative to the owners?

Lift car card reader
- Problem arise after the card reader were placed within the lift panel.
- Any scanning of the card takes 3 to 10 seconds and very the reading sensitivity is inconsistent.
- Sent numerous complaint emails over the past 3 months to the developer non were responded.
- Finally, a response from the developer on mid July 2016, the summary of the statement is,
- On the same chat with the contractor servicing the condo, I was told that our access card has two (2) parts, the long range chip and proximity chips. If we were to scan it on where the proximity chip located, the scanning should be more sensitive, and I have personally tested it, on certain part / position, the scanning is more sensitive, all we need now is to know exactly where the proximity chip located.
- Question puzzling me, who should be first conducting all these diagnostic and solutions, and who should be communicating this alternative to the owners? Why are we moving backward?
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a smart developer would have instructed each and every service provider to provide training/manuals for their product and in return combined it into their house rule book.
then it's covered. voila!
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QUOTE(kiathau @ Jul 15 2016, 02:38 PM)
Thanks bro kochin.

This is just part of my observations, i have a longer list but i have yet to compile.

I was trying to highlight all these observation to the developer, and following is the chronology,

- We had 2 meetings with developer (Marketing GM, Project Director, Operation Manager and etc were there), architects and the rest of them and highlighted all the issues (of cause the list is growing).
- I personally prepare the minutes and notes and send to the developer for follow up (for both meeting).
- From 16 April 2016 until now we only received 1 reply in 16 May 2016, until today, no matter what reminder we sent, no response received.

Since i can't get any feedback / response, what should i do? Any other channels that i can escalate to?

I am really running out of ideas and hence shouting help over here.
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Hi kiathau, we have viewed few units at KM1 East, apart from your list mentioned above, not sure if you too feel that the design of the rilling at the balcony is kind of too wide apart, we actually asked officer at the MO if they (or owner) can do something about it, answer given was NO. Kinda worry if something might have fallen while walking under the balcony.

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QUOTE(Akita @ Sep 2 2016, 10:44 AM)
Hi kiathau, we have viewed few units at KM1 East, apart from your list mentioned above, not sure if you too feel that the design of the rilling at the balcony is kind of too wide apart, we actually asked officer at the MO if they (or owner) can do something about it, answer given was NO. Kinda worry if something might have fallen while walking under the balcony.
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The sales brochure shown balcony sealed with glass!
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wah! this developer gives so many problems to the home owners!
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QUOTE(Akita @ Sep 3 2016, 12:29 PM)
The sales brochure shown balcony sealed with glass!
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Yes, we have the same concern of the choice of material, the balcony railing is made of wood, which cracked almost every few months bangwall.gif

Same answer, nothing can be done.

I felt a bit helpless at this stage.
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QUOTE(kiathau @ Sep 4 2016, 04:00 PM)
Yes, we have the same concern of the choice of material, the balcony railing is made of wood, which cracked almost every few months  bangwall.gif

Same answer, nothing can be done.

I felt a bit helpless at this stage.
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This sounds horrible and totally unacceptable! Have you tried gather more owners' concerns just to protect the interest of the owners and bring the issues to the table and call for a formal discussion with developer? If they still tidak apa attitude, get media to involve too?

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QUOTE(Akita @ Sep 14 2016, 10:07 AM)
This sounds horrible and totally unacceptable! Have you tried gather more owners' concerns just to protect the interest of the owners and bring the issues to the table and call for a formal discussion with developer? If they still tidak apa attitude, get media to involve too?
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Hi Akita, tried gathering the owners but does not yield any favorable results. State of refusal now. Media is the last choice and may not be supported by everyone rclxub.gif
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didn't know this development was this bad

 

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