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post Jan 20 2013, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(xyyap @ Jan 20 2013, 03:41 PM)
Berjaya like not good in development planning at all.

They always hit the jackpot then run road. To me, it is like killing the goose that lays gold eggs.

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seems there are more up coming development from them in BJ..
not sure what do you mean by "hit the jackpot then run road".. mind to elaborate.. hmm.gif
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post Jan 20 2013, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(xyyap @ Jan 20 2013, 03:53 PM)
Sorry, what I mean is, they never do like Setia way.

Simple example, see how Desa ParkCity pioneer grows 4 to 5 folds.

Imagine they develop the whole Bukit Jalil...
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Cant compare with setia la or all the top tier developer.
But better than other Bukit Jalil developer la.
If bukit jalil is by top tier developer, Bukit Jalil is already the top development in the country oredi

Thanks to Talam gor la.
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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Jan 20 2013, 03:54 PM)
seems there are more up coming development from them in BJ..
not sure what do you mean by "hit the jackpot then run road".. mind to elaborate..  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(xyyap @ Jan 20 2013, 03:53 PM)
Sorry, what I mean is, they never do like Setia way.

Simple example, see how Desa ParkCity pioneer grows 4 to 5 folds.

Imagine they develop the whole Bukit Jalil...
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Berjaya also like never have any "land mark" product.

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post Jan 20 2013, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(xyyap @ Jan 20 2013, 03:59 PM)
Berjaya also like never have any "land mark" product.
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Bro,

Check this out:

http://www.berjayaproperties.com/images/bjland11.pdf
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QUOTE(kohts @ Jan 20 2013, 03:57 PM)
Cant compare with setia la or all the top tier developer.
But better than other Bukit Jalil developer la.
If bukit jalil is by top tier developer, Bukit Jalil is already the top development in the country oredi

Thanks to Talam gor la.
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Berjaya as a brand is quite well known 10 years back leh.

Maybe Mr Tan has make enough money, don't see they are innovative with their product development.

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QUOTE(xyyap @ Jan 20 2013, 04:01 PM)
Berjaya as a brand is quite well known 10 years back leh.

Maybe Mr Tan has make enough money, don't see they are innovative with their product development.
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go look see look see at their show house.
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post Jan 20 2013, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(kohts @ Jan 20 2013, 04:03 PM)
go look see look see at their show house.
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Sorry lah, I don't really mean to comment them, but I really see they are not good in taking up huge development.

Stop here. Back to the topic. Hehe.


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post Jan 20 2013, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(xyyap @ Jan 20 2013, 03:59 PM)
Berjaya also like never have any "land mark" product.
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Have to agree that BL is not as top notch as SPS.. but, they still sell..
1 thing for sure BL is blessed with having Bukit Jalil for such strategic location..

IMHO.. Ppl are buying into BJ location, highway connectivity and convenience of public transport.. regardless of who building the houses around, the place sell itself simple bcos of location..

for SPS, they are heavily emphasizing on good township planning that draw buyers and investors, which i think they are pretty good with that despite location might be only so-so.. but the good concept and planning makes the "so-so location" to be forgiven..

FYI. BJ condos had been appreciated 3 fold like Savanna..

Is there any prop in DPC appreciated 4 to 5 fold? I know South Lake is about 3 fold.. hmm.gif
For the sake of condo vs condo comparison, how is Nadia in DPC doing? (curious)

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Updated as at 4.00pm today
61 units sold (total 178 units)
34%
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post Jan 20 2013, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(xyyap @ Jan 20 2013, 03:53 PM)
Sorry, what I mean is, they never do like Setia way.

Simple example, see how Desa ParkCity pioneer grows 4 to 5 folds.

Imagine they develop the whole Bukit Jalil...
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It's very hard to compare if there are many "IF", past tense against future tense and all of SP Setia, Perdana Parkcity and Berjaya Land have very much different company aspects, missions and visions, corporate planning and influence and much more.

SP Setia is the property dev taikor in Msia, very much to the support from the government and they are more to big township planner in such manner.

Perdana Parkcity took a very respective risky move on a 400+ acres ex-mining land purchased back then, where the first 5 land company prospects viewed it and seem the land was not so ideal for development until Perdana Parkcity with the support of a huge group of investors and hence, the idea of parkhomes was introduced into a niche market of Kepong area with a double pricing compare to landed in Kepong or Manjalara area, people were argued you were crazy if you buy it for investment, but those older people who said this about 6-10 years back got to swallow back their words now. The concentration on Desa Parkcity alone made a fruitful journey for the developer and as well as early investors and buyers as well.

Berjaya is not a kind of SP Setia's vision definitely and not as top as them in terms of property township planning. It might due to Berjaya had much more investments and planning compare to their corporate property division which can give more reputation and profile to the company coupled with faster and bigger profit compare to township development.

They hold majority of the BJ land but if they owned 90% or majority one large plot and concentrating the property development with good and great masterplan, also would bring different story. Don't forget Ho Hup and Huatland both developed at BJ too as well as Malton is coming on this year end for it's Jalil Integrated City.

But I see the current BJ of Jalan Jalil Perkasa 1 side, is transforming well in the past 1-2 years ( we can see the commercial at The Link had started to do well after vacant for about 1-2 years and interchanged of Kesas Highway helped a lot few years back ) and I see with the addition of the latest series of medium higher end and high end condos, catalyst of mixed commercial development by WCT Mall, Ho Hup & Malton's Jalil City and Berjaya itself could transform BJ into bigger league area in the next 5 years and another wave in another 10 years.




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QUOTE(xyyap @ Jan 20 2013, 04:07 PM)
Sorry lah, I don't really mean to comment them, but I really they are not good in taking up huge development.

Stop here. Back to the topic. Hehe.
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Haha no worry bro. We are not attacking you, but I really seconded that Berjaya Land is really not taking very good in proper huge development or township planning.

Perhaps, KM1 West and KM1 East could be their landmark projects, the only 2 residential projects which impressed me a bit.

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QUOTE(xyyap @ Jan 20 2013, 02:20 PM)
How much is the minimum price for a landed @ Bukit Jalil?
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1.5 mil
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Berjaya is a much more conservative developer. But things are about to change with their upcoming plans.

The upcoming mixed dev in BJ

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The future city centre of KL South by Berjaya

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will be transformed into something similar to their Korea project - the model of Berjaya's planned megaproject - SG. BESI HUB CITY

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QUOTE(accetera @ Jan 20 2013, 12:52 PM)
bascially km1 east is 1 highrise and 1 lowrise.. ??

but really salute this is like a BBB for biggies at a record psft price?...
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Yes, KM 1 east = 1 highrise and 1 lowrise

Highrise block has 3 wings with 3 different views each (KLCC, Golf, Pool)

Each floor has 6 units, 2 units per wing.


Golf view wing has the most number of buyers. 2 units per wing x 27 floors = 54 units only



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QUOTE(kohts @ Jan 20 2013, 03:50 PM)
Hit & Run? I dont know?
All Berjaya property at Bukit Jalil enjoy good growth in capital and rental starting from Greenfield apartment.
In certain higher lots of Greenfield apartment, Front view is golf, back view is the huge bukit jalil park.

Still got KM 2 and KM 3..
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KM2 is the best of the best location in BJ. KM3 is indeed Covillea and Savanna 1&2
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Btw many people who work/study in Cyberjaya loves to stay in Bukit Jalil/Seri Petaling area.

Was wondering in the next few years so many are coming up in Cyberjaya, and would that affect Bukit Jalil attractiveness?

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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Jan 20 2013, 04:10 PM)
Have to agree that BL is not as top notch as SPS.. but, they still sell..
1 thing for sure BL is blessed with having Bukit Jalil for such strategic location..

IMHO.. Ppl are buying into BJ location, highway connectivity and convenience of public transport.. regardless of who building the houses around, the place sell itself simple bcos of location..

for SPS, they are heavily emphasizing on good township planning that draw buyers and investors, which i think they are pretty good with that despite location might be only so-so.. but the good concept and planning makes the "so-so location" to be forgiven..

FYI. BJ condos had been appreciated 3 fold like Savanna..

Is there any prop in DPC appreciated 4 to 5 fold? I know South Lake is about 3 fold..  hmm.gif
For the sake of condo vs condo comparison, how is Nadia in DPC doing? (curious)
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Yes, BJ is quite a strategic location and the places here sold itself because of it's location without any catalyst back then.

Surprisingly no one mentioned about another taikor, Huatland. See how they developed the Taman Esplanade, it received decent profit back then and even now. I quite remember it was asking RM 800k back in 2007 and now it's RM 1.45mil onwards ... While the Zero Lot Bungalow, it was sold RM 1.4 - RM 1.9mil back then, 2009 and it was about RM 2.5mil to RM 3.8 mil now.

Hmm, you mean Nadia Condo in DPC? As I remember, it was launched in 2002/03 for about RM 250 psf onwards and was sold RM 400+ psf after completion in 2006 and I think now, was asking abt averaging RM 650-700 psf.




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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jan 20 2013, 05:12 PM)
Yes, BJ is quite a strategic location and the places here sold itself because of it's location without any catalyst back then.

Surprisingly no one mentioned about another taikor, Huatland. See how they developed the Taman Esplanade, it received decent profit back then and even now. I quite remember it was asking RM 800k back in 2007 and now it's RM 1.45mil onwards ... While the Zero Lot Bungalow, it was sold RM 1.4 - RM 1.9mil back then, 2009 and it was about RM 2.5mil to RM 3.8 mil now.

Hmm, you mean Nadia Condo in DPC? As I remember, it was launched in 2002/03 for about RM 250 psf onwards and was sold RM 400+ psf after completion in 2006 and I think now, was asking abt averaging RM 650-700 psf.
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Huatland.. lolz... nice name.. yup, taman esplanade has appreciated 2 fold..

So Nadia also appreciated about 3 fold.. was wondering which one appreciate 4 to 5 fold in DPC hmm.gif
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QUOTE(accetera @ Jan 20 2013, 05:05 PM)
Btw many people who work/study  in Cyberjaya loves to stay in Bukit Jalil/Seri Petaling area.

Was wondering in the next few years so many are coming up in Cyberjaya, and would that affect Bukit Jalil attractiveness?
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there are still ppl who work in KL and PJ stay in BJ...
with Ah Jib kor's new plan on the financial hub (sg besi airport), TRX, more commercial pouring in such as Eco City at the southern of KL, seems the attractiveness is still there in southern KL..

Maybe Cyber ppl will move to cyber and BJ will be filled by new occupants who seek job opportunity around the southern corridor of KL..

More commercial activities in BJ is just timely for that IMHO..

*At least BJ has its LRT completed 1st before putra/cyberjaya have their MRT line 3 in near future..

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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Jan 20 2013, 05:16 PM)
Huatland.. lolz... nice name.. yup, taman esplanade has appreciated 2 fold..

So Nadia also appreciated about 3 fold.. was wondering which one appreciate 4 to 5 fold in DPC  hmm.gif
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Yes, Nadia is about 2.5 folds in 9-10 years period inclusive 3 years construction period. I also wondering which one appreciated 4 to 5 folds?

The best I can seen in DPC now, could be still South Lake ( looks very plain and basic ) and Safa Terraces, due to both under Individualized Title with lesser monthly maintenance fee, the demand is still there. Thanks to next developments, are all strata condo / garden condo or strata parkhomes with huge built up area contributed to higher monthly maintenance fee. Was told the maintenance fee could be raise again.

I think Tmn Esplanade, the 2 1/2 storey superlink, had appreciated 3 folds and similar to Nadia Parkhomes or Condo.

For the Zero Lot Bungalow, it was already 1 fold into the first year of completion. And this is fold by million ringgit card, not a fold of RM 200k card ... hhehehehe .



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