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Daniel John
post Jan 18 2013, 09:28 AM

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may i know what is the best rm40k brand new car?

may i also know what is the best bike to replace the saga?
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post Jan 18 2013, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(robeng @ Jan 18 2013, 09:24 AM)
walau...so much butthurt here..cant brain properly..haha...the mentality of Saga owners..

all logic gone ady... laugh.gif

ya la, ur Saga is the BEST 40k car in this country.
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Yes it is to us. Problem?

He's asking about a car with that amount of budget. You give him another option of riding a bike. So let him choose then. I'm not saying your suggestions are wrong. We are here just to help him decide, so don't really need to feel protective about our suggestions.
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post Jan 18 2013, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(Daniel John @ Jan 18 2013, 09:28 AM)
may i know what is the best rm40k brand new car?
NIL.

may i also know what is the best bike to replace the saga?
Any bike ranging RM100-5k.
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Answer in red smile.gif

So whats the point of your question? u will sell your car? not right? so the point is..?

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Daniel John
post Jan 18 2013, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(robeng @ Jan 18 2013, 09:35 AM)
Answer in red  smile.gif

So whats the point of your question? u will sell your car? not right? so the point is..?
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rm100 bike? what is tat...show me...show me
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post Jan 18 2013, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jan 18 2013, 09:17 AM)
so high...

I get a Kancil also won't get a bike...

Be it point A to B or A to Z, if u are unlucky slightly touch by a car on road, u will die immediately...

If u so hate Proton car, at least suggest TS to buy a old Kancil instead of bike....

so high so high really so high...
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agree with u

soooo many proton hater it seems, and yes i do support proton because why? my 20 year old saga, and my saga flx se never let me down and im happy that i bought it, at least i dont get soaked in rain with 5k bike whistling.gif

although i can afford much higher price and can show off to people like 'godly' vios or 'mighty' honda city car, my main point is just to get to work and some traveling. its all come down to the reason why u bought the car at 1st place.

and for those who keep whining about cvt gearbox that wasnt made by proton, its from PUNCH company in belgium that also supply their gearbox for BMW MINI, ROVER, MG, VOLVO, GEELY, BYD, Southeast, HAIMA, Proton, GW.

most people with average salary tends to get expensive car rather than invest to another property, like house. Expensive car yet still rent house. and yes call me proton lover, cause i support them since i get for what i pay, and i do know how to maintain my crappy junk piece of shit car which served me very well
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post Jan 18 2013, 10:25 AM

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i smell serious proton haters here... i`m outta here... lazy mau argue...

kthxbye
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post Jan 18 2013, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(mzm5045 @ Jan 18 2013, 09:33 AM)
Yes it is to us. Problem?

He's asking about a car with that amount of budget. You give him another option of riding a bike. So let him choose then. I'm not saying your suggestions are wrong. We are here just to help him decide, so don't really need to feel protective about our suggestions.
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let me recap u about TS Questions;

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Getting Saga Flx CVT
Can let me know the pro and con of the car

What is the best price and where to get from which dealer


1) The Pro?
2) The Con?
3) Best Price?
4) Where to get?

So, where did he state about 40k? he only mentioned about 400/mth budget.

U can buy a better 80k car by throw a huge deposit and still maintain that 400/mth budget.

Most of u give The Pro but cannot accept The Con.

No wonder ppl look down to Saga owner.
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post Jan 18 2013, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(Daniel John @ Jan 18 2013, 09:37 AM)
rm100 bike? what is tat...show me...show me
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any bike u can find with that price.
that also can bring u from point A to B tongue.gif

QUOTE(pallmall @ Jan 18 2013, 09:37 AM)
agree with u

soooo many proton hater it seems, and yes i do support proton because why? my 20 year old saga, and my saga flx se never let me down and im happy that i bought it, at least i dont get soaked in rain with 5k bike  whistling.gif

although i can afford much higher price and can show off to people like 'godly' vios or 'mighty' honda city car, my main point is just to get to work and some traveling. its all come down to the reason why u bought the car at 1st place.

and for those who keep whining about cvt gearbox that wasnt made by proton, its from PUNCH company in belgium that also supply their gearbox for BMW MINI, ROVER, MG, VOLVO, GEELY, BYD, Southeast, HAIMA, Proton, GW.

most people with average salary tends to get expensive car rather than invest to another property, like house. Expensive car yet still rent house. and yes call me proton lover, cause i support them since i get for what i pay, and i do know how to maintain my crappy junk piece of shit car which served me very well
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1) that's the MAIN POINT. TS never said that he need a crappy junk piece of shit car just to get from point A to B. His concern only:

a) The Pro?
b) The Con?
c) Best Price?
d) Where to get?

Therefore, is it wrong to suggest TS savi his money for now and buy a better car which offer more comfortably and reliability?

2) 2nd point I totally agree with u. Don't buy if u cant afford. That's it.
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post Jan 18 2013, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(robeng @ Jan 17 2013, 10:52 PM)
For eg: china tab and samsung galaxy tab. Both carry Android and in the same class. But why samsung expensive? Im sure u can answer it.
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Take away the SAMSUNG label and it will priced just like any generic china tab only with better screen.

Tabs aside,

your point of saving up for a better 80k car is no doubt very logical. One thing you failed to see here is the difference between you and TS in terms of profession. Judging by your reply, I assume that you're some executive working in a weekday 9 to 5 office. On the other hand, TS is a part time insurance agent, and also he is starting a new business (judging from his signature), therefore a car is very important for his line of work. While the public transport, especially the LRT is no doubt improved in recent years, however, it is still isn't efficient enough to have the capability to be the method of transportation for sales people due to its limited places penetration. For you, the period of 3-4 years of saving for "better car" by riding a bike to work isn't a problem, but for TS it is a big problem. I am an insurance agent myself and the max mileage I have covered in a day is 260km, average is 140km a day. I am sure any sales job covers about the same with if not, more/less mileage than me. So, put yourself in TS's shoes and ask back yourself, would you prefer yourself to travel 140km daily on a RM100 kapcai or you prefer to travel the same distance daily in a 40k brand new car (without the worry of breakdown, rain & shine) ?
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post Jan 18 2013, 10:57 AM

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The auto industry in malaysia sucks. We all know that. While we are fighting to make it a better sector, we still have to live with it for now.
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post Jan 18 2013, 11:00 AM

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TS go buy import car then enjoice la... /kolos naow

Cheap no good, good no cheap.. Simple as that. icon_rolleyes.gif
Daniel John
post Jan 18 2013, 11:01 AM

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rm100 bike is what laa? i want 1 laa...breakdown like saga or not
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post Jan 18 2013, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(Daniel John @ Jan 18 2013, 11:01 AM)
rm100 bike is what laa? i want 1 laa...breakdown like saga or not
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I want 2, please. ph34r.gif
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post Jan 18 2013, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(robeng @ Jan 18 2013, 09:24 AM)
walau...so much butthurt here..cant brain properly..haha...the mentality of Saga owners..

all logic gone ady... laugh.gif

ya la, ur Saga is the BEST 40k car in this country.
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Go migrate other cuntry yawn.gif

GaGa owner mentality ofcoz got problem. Who in the right mind will buy Plotong? So damn cheap, couple with CVT, confem got plobrem ady. Some said they felt the car buang when attacking konar @ 180kmh. Again, who in the right mind will konar @ 180kmh whistling.gif sei sohigh shakehead.gif

I don't hate Plotong hater, but I luv my GaGa wub.gif
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post Jan 18 2013, 11:34 AM

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just want to share about proton saga,

i live at shah alam n works at pulau indah..1 day travel around 80km and FC is around rm10~rm12 per day. it half city drive n half highway drive, for me my car has done exellent job for rm40k below price

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post Jan 18 2013, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(robeng @ Jan 18 2013, 10:26 AM)
let me recap u about TS Questions;
1) The Pro?
2) The Con?
3) Best Price?
4) Where to get?

So, where did he state about 40k? he only mentioned about 400/mth budget.

U can buy a better 80k car by throw a huge deposit and still maintain that 400/mth budget.

Most of u give The Pro but cannot accept The Con.

No wonder ppl look down to Saga owner.
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Bro, who cannot accept the con? Soza already laid out what is good and what is bad which I agree. You, on the other hand, only focus on the bad and bordering on blind bashing. Have you ever owned a new Saga?? was you bad experience a result of being burned by the car? Was your initial assumption for the TS is that he was able to dump in a large amount of d/p?

I am a ex owner, so I know very well what the Saga is and what the Saga is not. Some times I hate Proton to the bone due to their aftersales, sometimes The car put a smile on my face. It's not the best car money can buy, but it is definitely better than riding a bike. If you hate Saga so much, you could've suggest a used car or a Perodua. Your suggestion to the TS to buy a bike instead of buying a cheap car, when he can afford one, is irresponsible at best.

This post has been edited by dares: Jan 18 2013, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE(soul333 @ Jan 18 2013, 11:34 AM)
just want to share about proton saga,

i live at shah alam n works at pulau indah..1 day travel around 80km and FC is around rm10~rm12 per day. it half city drive n half highway drive, for me my car has done exellent job for rm40k below price
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same... rclxms.gif
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post Jan 18 2013, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jan 18 2013, 10:53 AM)
Take away the SAMSUNG label and it will priced just like any generic china tab only with better screen.

Tabs aside,

your point of saving up for a better 80k car is no doubt very logical. One thing you failed to see here is the difference between you and TS in terms of profession. Judging by your reply, I assume that you're some executive working in a weekday 9 to 5 office. On the other hand, TS is a part time insurance agent, and also he is starting a new business (judging from his signature), therefore a car is very important for his line of work. While the public transport, especially the LRT is no doubt improved in recent years, however, it is still isn't efficient enough to have the capability to be the method of transportation for sales people due to its limited places penetration. For you, the period of 3-4 years of saving for "better car" by riding a bike to work isn't a problem, but for TS it is a big problem. I am an insurance agent myself and the max mileage I have covered in a day is 260km, average is 140km a day. I am sure any sales job covers about the same with if not, more/less mileage than me. So, put yourself in TS's shoes and ask back yourself, would you prefer yourself to travel 140km daily on a RM100 kapcai or you prefer to travel the same distance daily in a 40k brand new car (without the worry of breakdown, rain & shine) ?
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This is one good argument. rclxms.gif If it so, then it should be alright for TS to own a car due to his job requirement.
Btw, bro, im interested with your Firestorm Ignition Coil Booster. smile.gif
Can pm me price for Innova? brows.gif

QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 18 2013, 11:23 AM)
Go migrate other cuntry yawn.gif

GaGa owner mentality ofcoz got problem. Who in the right mind will buy Plotong? So damn cheap, couple with CVT, confem got plobrem ady. Some said they felt the car buang when attacking konar @ 180kmh. Again, who in the right mind will konar @ 180kmh whistling.gif sei sohigh shakehead.gif

I don't hate Plotong hater, but I luv my GaGa wub.gif
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Ini sangat bangang. Why when ppl recommend better car, then go migrate? doh.gif
I never mentioned TS shud buy import car. I even did mentioned better buy Preve or Exora. Just few thousands from Saga.
Is it so hard to understand? Or really Saga owner (not all) like u are having low kampung mentality?

QUOTE(dares @ Jan 18 2013, 11:37 AM)
Bro, who cannot accept the con? Soza already laid out what is good and what is bad which I agree. You, on the other hand, only focus on the bad and bordering on blind bashing. Have you ever owned a new Saga?? was you bad experience a result of being burned by the car? Was your initial assumption for the TS is that he was able to dump in a large amount of d/p?

I am a ex owner, so I know very well what the Saga is and what the Saga is not. Some times I hate Proton to the bone due to their aftersales, sometimes The car put a smile on my face. It's not the best car money can buy, but it is definitely better than riding a bike. If you hate Saga so much, you could've suggest a used car or a Perodua. Your suggestion to the TS to buy a bike instead of buying a cheap car, when he can afford one, is irresponsible at best.
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-ugly design
-chaplang material
-totally not comfy, worst if u have a big family
-poor sc

Those above are my opinion and experience. My big family own Saga, Wira, Preve currently.
Not bashing blindly. Im working in DRB-Hicom Group, which of course deal with Proton day-to-day.
I almost buy Exora Bold last month but changed my mind to get Innova instead. wink.gif

Is this enough to prove to u that im not hating Proton but Saga only? sweat.gif
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post Jan 18 2013, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(robeng @ Jan 18 2013, 12:07 PM)
Those above are my opinion and experience. My big family own Saga, Wira, Preve currently.
Not bashing blindly. Im working in DRB-Hicom Group, which of course deal with Proton day-to-day.
I almost buy Exora Bold last month but changed my mind to get Innova instead.  wink.gif

Is this enough to prove to u that im not hating Proton but Saga only?  sweat.gif
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Very well then, at least by your account you have a basis for your hatred towards the car. I still don't agree with your suggestion of buying a bike rather than Saga, or any other cheap car.
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post Jan 18 2013, 12:19 PM

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n i stil waiting for rm100 bike

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