QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jan 18 2013, 10:53 AM)
Take away the SAMSUNG label and it will priced just like any generic china tab only with better screen.
Tabs aside,
your point of saving up for a better 80k car is no doubt very logical. One thing you failed to see here is the difference between you and TS in terms of profession. Judging by your reply, I assume that you're some executive working in a weekday 9 to 5 office. On the other hand, TS is a part time insurance agent, and also he is starting a new business (judging from his signature), therefore a car is very important for his line of work. While the public transport, especially the LRT is no doubt improved in recent years, however, it is still isn't efficient enough to have the capability to be the method of transportation for sales people due to its limited places penetration. For you, the period of 3-4 years of saving for "better car" by riding a bike to work isn't a problem, but for TS it is a big problem. I am an insurance agent myself and the max mileage I have covered in a day is 260km, average is 140km a day. I am sure any sales job covers about the same with if not, more/less mileage than me. So, put yourself in TS's shoes and ask back yourself, would you prefer yourself to travel 140km daily on a RM100 kapcai or you prefer to travel the same distance daily in a 40k brand new car (without the worry of breakdown, rain & shine) ?

This is one good argument.

If it so, then it should be alright for TS to own a car due to his job requirement.
Btw, bro, im interested with your Firestorm Ignition Coil Booster.
Can pm me price for Innova?
QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 18 2013, 11:23 AM)
Go migrate other cuntry 
GaGa owner mentality ofcoz got problem. Who in the right mind will buy Plotong? So damn cheap, couple with CVT, confem got plobrem ady. Some said they felt the car buang when attacking konar @ 180kmh. Again, who in the right mind will konar @ 180kmh

sei sohigh

I don't hate Plotong hater, but I luv my GaGa

Ini sangat bangang. Why when ppl recommend better car, then go migrate?
I never mentioned TS shud buy import car. I even did mentioned better buy Preve or Exora. Just few thousands from Saga.
Is it so hard to understand? Or really Saga owner (not all) like u are having low kampung mentality?
QUOTE(dares @ Jan 18 2013, 11:37 AM)
Bro, who cannot accept the con? Soza already laid out what is good and what is bad which I agree.
You, on the other hand, only focus on the bad and bordering on blind bashing. Have you ever owned a new Saga?? was you bad experience a result of being burned by the car? Was your initial assumption for the TS is that he was able to dump in a large amount of d/p?
I am a ex owner, so I know very well what the Saga is and what the Saga is not. Some times I hate Proton to the bone due to their aftersales, sometimes The car put a smile on my face. It's not the best car money can buy, but it is definitely better than riding a bike. If you hate Saga so much, you could've suggest a used car or a Perodua. Your suggestion to the TS to buy a bike instead of buying a cheap car, when he can afford one, is irresponsible at best.
QUOTE
-ugly design
-chaplang material
-totally not comfy, worst if u have a big family
-poor sc
Those above are my opinion and experience. My big family own Saga, Wira, Preve currently.
Not bashing blindly. Im working in DRB-Hicom Group, which of course deal with Proton day-to-day.
I almost buy Exora Bold last month but changed my mind to get Innova instead.
Is this enough to prove to u that im not hating Proton but Saga only?