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robeng
post Jan 17 2013, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(SoZa @ Jan 17 2013, 03:34 PM)
pro
-better handling than myvi and vios
-newer technology compared to ^
-bigger boot than myvi

cons
-poor city fuel consumption
-noisy acceleration
-plasticy dashboard
-the badge
-ugly design
-chaplang material
-totally not comfy, worst if u have a big family
-poor sc

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just add some facts laugh.gif
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post Jan 17 2013, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(amad108 @ Jan 17 2013, 05:22 PM)
overall its a good car with good price tag.. no other in its class can beat its price (eg vios/almera/city)
try get saga FLX se, maybe 1.3 engine not enough ummph.. or izzit u want manual version? its better in term of maintenance compare CVT gbx...

for quality, u need to look how much it price.. it price close to viva elite right?
so dont worry too much, if u want it just get it.. all car have pros n con, it depend how u encounter the problems later on..
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QUOTE(dares @ Jan 17 2013, 05:24 PM)
wadafaq why drag me down water again  shakehead.gif

Soza pretty much sums up the whole Saga experience.

As for the additional points robeng added, chapalang material is not just Saga, the same goes for Myvi, and the Dugong which is RM25k more expensive is not much better. Comfy? tell me one new car in that price bracket that is more comfortable than the Saga.

It is a sub RM50k car. What do you expect?
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QUOTE(SoZa @ Jan 17 2013, 05:29 PM)
no that is not facts, do you own one? because i do own one.

the design from my own pov is beter than vios and almera,

not comfortable for big family? it is b-segment sub compact duh, do you expect d-segment leg room?
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i can't brain how u guys can compare saga with 80k cars in the first place
try to not comparing, just state the fact about Saga only
i wont throw 40k to get Saga for sure
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post Jan 17 2013, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(fghvbn @ Jan 17 2013, 06:25 PM)
then how ? my budget is RM400 per month and 7 years loan installment ...
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For that budget n loan period, I would strongly recommend that u:

1) keep ur money and use bike instead atm
2) have at least 30k saving then throw a big deposit for better car with d same 400/mth budget
3) work 2-3 years more than only buy a good car

Im not hate proton. Preve & Exora are good car n mpv. But for saga, it just wasting ur money. 100% i guarantee u will regret after own it. Car is not investment.
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post Jan 17 2013, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jan 17 2013, 06:56 PM)
This is fepic. By your account, 100% Saga owners are regretting it right now. So much so they wish they bought a bike instead.
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laugh.gif no lar.. if the idea is just getting from point A to point B, then this Saga does its job.

But as TS want to know the pro n con, then we should list it with honest. smile.gif
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post Jan 17 2013, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(wanfauzan @ Jan 17 2013, 07:04 PM)
during heavy rain, you will regret for settling down for a bike instead of a car, I can fguarantee 100%
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I would prefer 5k bike than 40k saga anytime if it just to get me from point A to B

If u talking bout comfy, saga never come across my mind
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post Jan 17 2013, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(fghvbn @ Jan 17 2013, 08:46 PM)
So Saga FLX is a crap car ?
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Indeed. Ok TS, just buy la. After 3 years, pls update here. laugh.gif

QUOTE(Daniel John @ Jan 17 2013, 08:50 PM)
crap car for those who think their imported car is superior than saga...hehehe
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Not crap for those bought it due to BUDGET

QUOTE(kenjilew @ Jan 17 2013, 09:43 PM)
cars is not investment bike also not investment ma... lols...

must as well no nee buy anything use public transport till u have money to buy good car ?

and btw... i dam regret owning saga blm weih... NOT ! smile.gif
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Now u agree that both are not investment, so r u prefer bigger loss or smaller loss?

Yes, why is it hard to use public transport n keep your money until u can afford a better car?

I own an MPV and a bike, and i use LRT everyday to work. Problem?

QUOTE(amad108 @ Jan 17 2013, 10:03 PM)
the reason i compare with those car is because they in the same class of cars.. if the price all is about the same, for sure nobody will buy saga lor  shakehead.gif
can u find any cars that which same class with saga have price like it in malaysia ? sure cannot right ?
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Ur comparison is just invalid.
For eg: china tab and samsung galaxy tab. Both carry Android and in the same class. But why samsung expensive? Im sure u can answer it.

QUOTE(amad108 @ Jan 17 2013, 10:17 PM)
haha.. can u withstand the heat and rainy day?
if everyone thinking like u, fore sure our road will become less traffic jam  thumbup.gif

and try to understand, not all people can buy expensive car, different people got different taste summore, i think all new car is comfy enough.. even new viva 660 is comfy enough for 1-2 persons..
here we discuss about pros n con, not looking down TS like that, its not appropriate if u ask me..
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yes, why not? U so manja is it? I've been ride my bike KL-melaka daily when i was studied. Until now i still prefer my bike when in rush in kl.

I never looked down to TS. I give opinion and advise based on experience and knowledge. Thats y i suggest to save some money and get better car in future if TS cant afford expensive car now. It is just a matter of time. smile.gif
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post Jan 18 2013, 09:24 AM

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walau...so much butthurt here..cant brain properly..haha...the mentality of Saga owners..

all logic gone ady... laugh.gif

ya la, ur Saga is the BEST 40k car in this country.
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post Jan 18 2013, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(Daniel John @ Jan 18 2013, 09:28 AM)
may i know what is the best rm40k brand new car?
NIL.

may i also know what is the best bike to replace the saga?
Any bike ranging RM100-5k.
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Answer in red smile.gif

So whats the point of your question? u will sell your car? not right? so the point is..?

This post has been edited by robeng: Jan 18 2013, 09:35 AM
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post Jan 18 2013, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(mzm5045 @ Jan 18 2013, 09:33 AM)
Yes it is to us. Problem?

He's asking about a car with that amount of budget. You give him another option of riding a bike. So let him choose then. I'm not saying your suggestions are wrong. We are here just to help him decide, so don't really need to feel protective about our suggestions.
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let me recap u about TS Questions;

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Getting Saga Flx CVT
Can let me know the pro and con of the car

What is the best price and where to get from which dealer


1) The Pro?
2) The Con?
3) Best Price?
4) Where to get?

So, where did he state about 40k? he only mentioned about 400/mth budget.

U can buy a better 80k car by throw a huge deposit and still maintain that 400/mth budget.

Most of u give The Pro but cannot accept The Con.

No wonder ppl look down to Saga owner.
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post Jan 18 2013, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(Daniel John @ Jan 18 2013, 09:37 AM)
rm100 bike? what is tat...show me...show me
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any bike u can find with that price.
that also can bring u from point A to B tongue.gif

QUOTE(pallmall @ Jan 18 2013, 09:37 AM)
agree with u

soooo many proton hater it seems, and yes i do support proton because why? my 20 year old saga, and my saga flx se never let me down and im happy that i bought it, at least i dont get soaked in rain with 5k bike  whistling.gif

although i can afford much higher price and can show off to people like 'godly' vios or 'mighty' honda city car, my main point is just to get to work and some traveling. its all come down to the reason why u bought the car at 1st place.

and for those who keep whining about cvt gearbox that wasnt made by proton, its from PUNCH company in belgium that also supply their gearbox for BMW MINI, ROVER, MG, VOLVO, GEELY, BYD, Southeast, HAIMA, Proton, GW.

most people with average salary tends to get expensive car rather than invest to another property, like house. Expensive car yet still rent house. and yes call me proton lover, cause i support them since i get for what i pay, and i do know how to maintain my crappy junk piece of shit car which served me very well
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1) that's the MAIN POINT. TS never said that he need a crappy junk piece of shit car just to get from point A to B. His concern only:

a) The Pro?
b) The Con?
c) Best Price?
d) Where to get?

Therefore, is it wrong to suggest TS savi his money for now and buy a better car which offer more comfortably and reliability?

2) 2nd point I totally agree with u. Don't buy if u cant afford. That's it.
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post Jan 18 2013, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jan 18 2013, 10:53 AM)
Take away the SAMSUNG label and it will priced just like any generic china tab only with better screen.

Tabs aside,

your point of saving up for a better 80k car is no doubt very logical. One thing you failed to see here is the difference between you and TS in terms of profession. Judging by your reply, I assume that you're some executive working in a weekday 9 to 5 office. On the other hand, TS is a part time insurance agent, and also he is starting a new business (judging from his signature), therefore a car is very important for his line of work. While the public transport, especially the LRT is no doubt improved in recent years, however, it is still isn't efficient enough to have the capability to be the method of transportation for sales people due to its limited places penetration. For you, the period of 3-4 years of saving for "better car" by riding a bike to work isn't a problem, but for TS it is a big problem. I am an insurance agent myself and the max mileage I have covered in a day is 260km, average is 140km a day. I am sure any sales job covers about the same with if not, more/less mileage than me. So, put yourself in TS's shoes and ask back yourself, would you prefer yourself to travel 140km daily on a RM100 kapcai or you prefer to travel the same distance daily in a 40k brand new car (without the worry of breakdown, rain & shine) ?
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This is one good argument. rclxms.gif If it so, then it should be alright for TS to own a car due to his job requirement.
Btw, bro, im interested with your Firestorm Ignition Coil Booster. smile.gif
Can pm me price for Innova? brows.gif

QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 18 2013, 11:23 AM)
Go migrate other cuntry yawn.gif

GaGa owner mentality ofcoz got problem. Who in the right mind will buy Plotong? So damn cheap, couple with CVT, confem got plobrem ady. Some said they felt the car buang when attacking konar @ 180kmh. Again, who in the right mind will konar @ 180kmh whistling.gif sei sohigh shakehead.gif

I don't hate Plotong hater, but I luv my GaGa wub.gif
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Ini sangat bangang. Why when ppl recommend better car, then go migrate? doh.gif
I never mentioned TS shud buy import car. I even did mentioned better buy Preve or Exora. Just few thousands from Saga.
Is it so hard to understand? Or really Saga owner (not all) like u are having low kampung mentality?

QUOTE(dares @ Jan 18 2013, 11:37 AM)
Bro, who cannot accept the con? Soza already laid out what is good and what is bad which I agree. You, on the other hand, only focus on the bad and bordering on blind bashing. Have you ever owned a new Saga?? was you bad experience a result of being burned by the car? Was your initial assumption for the TS is that he was able to dump in a large amount of d/p?

I am a ex owner, so I know very well what the Saga is and what the Saga is not. Some times I hate Proton to the bone due to their aftersales, sometimes The car put a smile on my face. It's not the best car money can buy, but it is definitely better than riding a bike. If you hate Saga so much, you could've suggest a used car or a Perodua. Your suggestion to the TS to buy a bike instead of buying a cheap car, when he can afford one, is irresponsible at best.
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-ugly design
-chaplang material
-totally not comfy, worst if u have a big family
-poor sc

Those above are my opinion and experience. My big family own Saga, Wira, Preve currently.
Not bashing blindly. Im working in DRB-Hicom Group, which of course deal with Proton day-to-day.
I almost buy Exora Bold last month but changed my mind to get Innova instead. wink.gif

Is this enough to prove to u that im not hating Proton but Saga only? sweat.gif
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post Jan 18 2013, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jan 18 2013, 12:16 PM)
Very well then, at least by your account you have a basis for your hatred towards the car. I still don't agree with your suggestion of buying a bike rather than Saga, or any other cheap car.
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Let me quote myself again:

QUOTE(robeng @ Jan 17 2013, 06:51 PM)
For that budget n loan period, I would strongly recommend that u:

1) keep ur money and use bike instead atm
2) have at least 30k saving then throw a big deposit for better car with d same 400/mth budget
3) work 2-3 years more than only buy a good car


Im not hate proton. Preve & Exora are good car n mpv. But for saga, it just wasting ur money. 100% i guarantee u will regret after own it. Car is not investment.
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Can't u see my point there? doh.gif

I mean, if he can't afford to buy a better car than SAGA now, better keep his money by use bike instead at the moment.
I never mentioned any other cheap car. Dun spinning gasing la kawan.
If u asked me, if really i got 400/mth budget and really2 need a car (else i die), i will look for honda/toyota used car.
but since all of u said, NEW CAR WITH 40K BUDGET (even TS also never mentioned it), soi suggest use bike la.
Get it?
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post Jan 18 2013, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jan 18 2013, 12:30 PM)
Proton fanbois will argue even if they are on the verge of death ph34r.gif

@ OP : Test and feel the quality of the cars you want. Dont let those bloody fanbois affect your decision.

I wont say much, but at the end of the day, it your money, not theirs.
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post Jan 18 2013, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jan 18 2013, 12:39 PM)
Who's spinning gasing? I'm commenting on what I understood, it seems many other have intepreted your comments the same way. If it was a misunderstanding then it's a misunderstanding.

Don't tell me I'm spinning gasing, ok kawan? It is insulting.
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Can u show or quote my post that i suggest TS should buy a bike than OTHER CHEAP CAR than Saga?

Who others that understood the same like u? All Saga owners right. That just prove my statement that most of Saga owners share the same low mentality.
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post Jan 18 2013, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jan 18 2013, 02:35 PM)
Hey, I already conceded that you are entitled to your opinion since you own a Saga, I was trying to be civil until you decided to accuse me of "spinning gasing". You don't wanna own up your mistake, that's fine by me. If resorting to insults is your way to defend yourself against people with "low mentality", good for you too.

Quote bolded for posterity.
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Seems like u did not interested to answer my questions.
Thanks for bold that part so that ppl know.
Nvm. tongue.gif
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post Jan 19 2013, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 19 2013, 12:10 AM)
Need to fix these:
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Fixing list continue next page
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kesian your car, it's 'butthurt' till need plaster sad.gif

btw, ur Saga looks heavily modded. Looks expensive and look fast.


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post Jan 19 2013, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 19 2013, 06:57 PM)
Can TS come back & shut this down ady? Wanna see show ady see lok, wanna create havoc oso happened ady lok. What else? Start another thread ask again la, wanna buy Preve or Dugong, sure very laku 1 yawn.gif
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doh.gif why u feel so insecure? Let TS do whatever he want la. doh.gif

 

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