The car looks decent. Interior looks decent unlike the cheap interior of Prius C.

The price and rebates seem ok.

So why isn't anyone else interested to buy Polo Sedan?

I see so many Polo Sedans park in storage at SC, nobody want to buy.

Is there something wrong with the car?

An Indian car? No thanks. No stability control, MPI engine and only two airbags.

low spec for a VW?

Then those who buy Ford Fiesta cars, can say it is Thai car because it is manufactured in Rayong.

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Added on January 4, 2013, 9:51 pmBut affordable VW. Most VW is above 140k except for the super small Polo Sport Tsi.

This post has been edited by Alvin330000421: Jan 4 2013, 09:51 PM

Too expensive for the specs. T&H buyers are used to it. But those who consider conti brands are IMHO better educated and more demanding. Otherwise they would buy T&H. Made in India fine. As long as it is proper VW QC. A bit outdated engine and gearbox also acceptable... At least proven. But 2 airbags and no stability control is bad. Very bad. So much worse than Fiesta, and much more expensive.

You really don't know anything about cars don't you? Polo is piratically empty.. Without the main safety features and being priced at rm85k for a standard 1.6 engine.. It's SUPER OVERPRICE.

Fiesta on the other hand has everything. 6 airbags, Traction Control, Stability control and so on. More importantly it's priced cheaper. If Polo Sedan is priced at RM65k or lower then it would be affordable. at 99k? Hell no.. who would want to buy?

This post has been edited by kidmad: Jan 4 2013, 10:02 PM

It is easy, I have bring my friend to test drive before.

First I ask him test Polo Sedan first, after test I bring him test Polo Hatchback.

Then he will never look at the Sedan anymore.

End Story

Reaons: No Turbo

This post has been edited by kcchong2000: Jan 4 2013, 10:11 PM

expensive car wit low spec

Can you find a similar Ford Fiesta in USA or Europe? Can you find a similar Polo sedan in USA or Europe? Polo sedan is a mainstream car for developing countries like India & Brazil but sold at a premium in Malaysia.

polo sedan has 4 airbags if im not mistaken..

Yeah you are right but still, it only has a single DIN head unit. It just way overpriced.

I like single DIN units. Can fit my own radio

The Polo sedan was on sale long time ago in Germany, but no one buys B segment sedans so they stopped it.

Underpowered engines? IIRC I recently saw that the basic Polo comes with 60 HP. NA. No air con. Or any other creature comforts. Although it did have ESP and 6 airbags I believe.

The base spec contis on sale in Germany are shockingly empty and "underpowered". All they have is a ton of passive and some active safety equipment.

Lets put aside the spec being low & without turbo. Look past that & actually you have to give credit that its ride and handling actually is very good indeed matching the like of fiesta & their own polo hatch. The interior space is large enough to beat fiesta & again the polo hatch. If want a good ride handling car like conti, new not 2nd hand, need space, boot, cheap and non national car....u r only left with polo sedan.

This post has been edited by Hizami_83: Jan 4 2013, 11:17 PM

Low spec , high price and no tsi/tdi.

because its too expensive for the specs
but i test driven it its actually not bad better stability compared to vios and city

how about its NVH ? better then city, vios n almera

dont compare with vios stability la

This is the first time I heard the Polo sedan has a ride and handling that can match Fiesta.

From the statement i guess you have not even test driven it yet. Anyway, go ahead & read local test drive review such as Paultan. They admit its quite close.

fiesta handling is good compare to what car? satria neo?

It shows that Malaysians are not stupiak....

i must say if its better its just a bit better
but can hear wind noise already around 90-100kmh and tyre noise also
but for that price i would rather buy a proton inspira 2.0

rather get a hyundai elantra instead...

You mean this one:
http://paultan.org/2012/05/04/driven-volks...ed-in-langkawi/

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Added on January 4, 2013, 11:45 pmCornering is as good as Swift but ride is not as harsh.

This post has been edited by alg7_munif: Jan 4 2013, 11:45 PM

but the interior is wayy better than other b class cars in the market

To me is not worth it, top up 10k more, you can get a hatchback with TSI engine + DSG gearbox.

Also with this price ESP not included is not acceptable to me, Ford Fiesta at 83k already got ESP.

Yes bro. Its quite good indeed. I suggest that you do give it a try to find out. Oh ya...forget to mention that i somehow feel that the engine refinement & tune is quite good as well. Sweet revving all the way to red line & does not sound like its straining itself. i'm just trying be fare here. Its not like its a junk car.
Of course it goes without saying that anyone want to get this car should buy it with the huge discount/rebate.
As for no ESP...yes that is a downside but then again so does almera/vios/city.

Back looks like saga...

try compare polo sedan n polo hatchback and u will know why...

i thought it performs like a SAGA too! no?

bro, u testing supercar?

u dunno meh polo sedan is a supercar??
got 7 litre v8 at the back lolzzz

Err...any car also can rev till high rpm what. Some car above 4000rpm already sound struggling. Of course i set my expectation accordingly. We cant expect it to perform like GTI or R series right.
Another thing, i notice that ppl always compare this to the polo TSI...but do they know that the engine power (horsepower) is comparable between these 2 cars. Heck even the top speed is also quite close.

because sedan dont have DSG but the tsi does

Even the cheaper Fiesta has it, dual clutch transmission.

I thought there are a lot of complains on both VW DSG & Ford DCT causing jerk issue?
Why not opt for something reliable & already proven robust. Its not that the polo sedan is in ancient 4speeds AT but in fact 6speeds AT.

jerk is only on first/second gear...once u learn to control the throttle there'll be no jerk at all....i own a fiesta...its been problem free for close to two years...i drive it quite hard sometimes...jerk is common in double clutch gearboxes.....even VW's DSG, which is considered one of the best suffers from this "issue"...it's only annoying when your new to such gearboxes...once you're used to it you learn to avoid it

VW just try to test market only.
They want to test whether they can rip off Malaysian buyer just like Toyota did.
They know basically, Malaysian are idiot and just care about brand.
Thank god this time Malaysian are less stupid. The price and the spec just lower down VW reputation.

if only it use same 1.2 tsi engine with that price, sure many people buy it

Polo Sedan is about RM 104K (OTR with insurance and tax) right? But yes with no stability control (which i would expect for all conti's especially VW), 4 airbags, 103Hp 1.6L MPI Euro 2 engine, 0-100kmph in >12 secs, 1DIN radio, halogen lights and fabric seats the car is way to pricey for the Malaysian market at least. Not when you have to fight against the more 'empty' Vios, City, Almera, Forte, Altis and Civic.

I would rather go for the Polo 1.2L TSI with its more powerful Euro 5 engine, 7 speed DSG and better safety specs at only about RM 118K (OTR with insurance & tax).

But another overpriced VW is the Golf TSI which i think at RM 162K (OTR) is too expensive for a 1.4L turbo and specs on offer.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Jan 5 2013, 08:38 AM

Price is always relative. Different people place different value on certain characteristics that are important to them.

For example, I personally don't find abalone to be worth as much as it does. Its taste is entirely dependent on its sauce and by itself, aside from looking like a vagina, I fail to see what's so special about them. But that has not prevented many Malaysians from paying and enjoying them and I am certain those who do patronize restaurants for it have their reasons. I'm doubt my opinion about the abalone is worth a whit to those who finds pleasure in paying so much for the dish.

Cheers!

waaa so eating abalone=eating vag

This post has been edited by ezmeer94: Jan 5 2013, 10:09 AM

But the issue on abalone is much more subjective compared to cars as specs and engine performance can be measured and compared.

And abalone diminishes over time from overfishing which drives prices up. And there is actually a limit on how much they can catch... Not exactly a good comparison but I do understand what he's trying to say

The rear end is just too ugly..

Looks like a Saga, and the features list, even a Preve can beat it

Preve also beats Toyota Camry. So what?

With almost 10k cheaper, Honda City has more stuff than this VW rip off, and a more responsive/refined engine to start with.


>Preve also beats Toyota Camry. So what?
Oh my, don't talk about the most rip off car of the year 2012. I'm just waiting they introduce a facelift to includeTC/VSC and add 10k more.

Haih..why so many very harsh on Polo Sedan? I see the Polo Sedan as an alternative to people who wants VW (build quality/badge) but have concerns towards tsi/dsg (reliability). It's targeting 'family man/uncles' rather than youths. But I do agree it's priced a bit on the high side. Maybe VW should take-over Skoda from Auto-Praha and bring us the Skoda Rapid.

You don't know about my thread? You know how to read or not?

My thread is to ask about Polo Seddan, I am not defending Polo Sedan, understand?

UNDERSTAND? CAN YOU READ THIS? PLEASE WEAR YOUR 2 INCH SPECS.

You don't go out often do you? They don't sell Polo Sedan at 99k, I don't want to spoil the market so I won't reveal how low it can go.

You seem to forget one major thing about Fiesta, no doubt it is good car but its damn small car.

If you talk tech, Prius C would be better deal, hybrid, 9 air bags, push start, stability control, masuk kereta - all you need is key in pocket then hand touch the door bar, car will open.

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Added on January 5, 2013, 1:29 pmSedan has no tsi/dsg lah.

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Added on January 5, 2013, 1:30 pmThey giving a lot of rebates, I can't say how much because I am in midst of negotiations.

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Added on January 5, 2013, 1:31 pmI test driven both polo sedan and fiesta before, fiesta better in terms of acceleration. But feels wierd, the driver view i not used to in fiesta.

This post has been edited by Alvin330000421: Jan 5 2013, 01:31 PM

Prius C 7 airbags, no?

I don't like keyless go, and usually I love gadgets. But I don't trust it.

What's the price for the sedan then? If around 80k then the price is reasonable. Problem is, no one knows. So people who look for a car think... hm, Vios, City, Fiesta, Almera. Polo sedan maybe nice, but 100k, too much for me. So they don't even consider it.

On Mudah I see a few for 80k, but those are pre reg, maybe demo car. Demo car always gets thrashed, better get second hand then... at least one driver who doesn't always drive like his back is on fire.

Anyway I do agree this one is more meant for Vios etc. customers. Got good brand and reputation (VW), the tech isn't scarily modern. Some people are scared of DSG and TSI. This one offers the power of the TSI (more or less), but without the TSI. Also got lots of cc, some people still haven't understood that cc isn't so important. Also it has a 6 speed torque converter. 6 speed proven enough and better than Toyota 4 speed, no horror stories like with the DSG. It SHOULD be doing well. Maybe it's just too early to tell? And they really need to get the price down.

VWM should take over Skoda, yes. Maybe Polo sedan 85-90k, Skoda Fabia around 70k?


This post has been edited by kadajawi: Jan 5 2013, 01:38 PM

I can get the sedan 30k cheaper than the hatchback (with sweet deals and rebates).

So you're paying 30k for the turbo.

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Added on January 5, 2013, 1:37 pmI've been tracing the sedan price for several months, they are giving rebates. i can't say how much but its damn a lot. better than honda insight's rebates.

This post has been edited by Alvin330000421: Jan 5 2013, 01:37 PM

But who knows about the price being so good (how good is it anyway)? If I see a nice product, but the price is too high, I won't even try to bargain. I'll just give it a pass and settle for something else.

@Alvin, I know. Please re-read my statement.

Yes im aware of the rebates. Even the Golf has some good rebates. But im comparing prices in general not just because its year end and VW wants to clear 2012 stock.

Golf even with rebates, I think its not worth it. My friend in australia, got his Golf Gti for AUD40k.

I saw a 2009 1.8L Golf Gti selling for 85k wonder if this is good deal.

Prius c is so ugly.so what with keyless.

I going for honda insight!

Polo sedan looks to be overpriced. If it were cheaper by 10K it would sell very well. But in this case, if i wanted cheap VW, i would got for a Skoda.

It is cheaper by 10k, in fact you can get even less than 10k.

Skoda cheaper??? Hmm, maybe i have a look at skoda.

100k then get 12 seconds 0-100 no way man
Even my 10 year old car is much more faster

Say only japan import, but insight still 2 airbags

IMO, looks alone insight is still better than Prius C...but technology and everything else?

IMO, Polo sedan looks awfully bad in the brochure but in real life its quite good looking car... seen a few of them OTR and quite like the sleek elegant and clean design... pawn vios city almera like no tomorrow but for the price and spec given its definitely a rip off... and the interior is a big turn off too...

What technology and everything else are you talking?

you should know, since you are driving one

Maybe somebody jealous i looking at german car while he still drives his rusted kereta potong.

the only worth buying polo sedan is the 1.6 tdi version. but got no such luck here

Good looking? Compared to other B segment cars maybe the Polo sedan is not as ugly but I won't call it good looking. I totally agree that it is a rip off. Sadly they managed to make people think that it is a premium car although it is just another low cost mainstream car.

I would take the full spec Honda City over the Polo sedan if I'm buying. First choice would be Fiesta.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiykUvtSJvU...be_gdata_player

This post has been edited by alg7_munif: Jan 6 2013, 07:34 AM

Yes true but insight's transmission sux. Acceleration is bad.

Plus resale value is not very good.

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Added on January 6, 2013, 9:51 amActually if one can get the polo sedan at 85k, its not a bad price, even when the car does not have tsi, dsg, extra air bags for back passengers and stability.

Toyota Altis for eg, the low spec 1.8E is priced at 113k.

The car doesn't have stability, no electronic break assists. Don't you think the Altis is more overpriced?

This post has been edited by Alvin330000421: Jan 6 2013, 09:51 AM

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Added on January 6, 2013, 11:34 amDo you see anyone recommending Altis?

This post has been edited by kidmad: Jan 6 2013, 11:34 AM

Somehow to him, if throughout your lifetime if you have ever enjoyed one Proton car, that's because you are too poor to own another car

Altis is bigger than polo lol
Different class also but yes it is very overpriced for that specs

Polo sedan is not even a proper vw car..rear macam saga

If you can get it at 85k, why did they sell it at more than 100k before? To rip us off?

Why is it not a proper VW?

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Added on January 6, 2013, 12:14 pmI think so, yes. Lol. They want to keep up their premium image, so the asking price is high, but they give you discounts.

This post has been edited by kadajawi: Jan 6 2013, 12:14 PM

Low spec..n don't feel premium like other vw..but price is premium

I think this has been addressed before, in Europe not all VW are spec-ed so high like the ones in Malaysia, but that doesn't make it any less VW than the ones here....

The Polo Sedan is every bit VW as it is in Europe, except the overpriced part.

Haa yes but vw is also no premium brand
Their premium brand is Audi
Vw is midrange

Maybe is due to high price..but lower spec

is premium to most msian

But still more worth than Vios trd

The problem is, people here are thinking that they are buying a premium car when they buy a VW, just because they are charged with a premium price.

Afterall VW is just another mainstream brand selling mass market products. Everywhere else, VW is viewed on the same level as Toyota, Honda and Ford. Only here people think that VW is a premium brand.

I disagree. VW sits in the space between normal brands such as Toyota, Honda, Ford and premium brands such as Mercedes, BMW, Audi and Volvo.

They are certainly more expensive than their competitors in Germany. However the price difference is not very big, true premium brands are much more expensive.

To me the Polo sedan would be a medium spec German Polo. Quite powerful engine, and auto gearbox. Entry level Polos don't have air con. Of course in terms of safety features even an entry level Polo beats the crap out of the sedan here.

Lol, almost 100k you can add abit more to get a bigger Corolla Altis or Sylphy. For that level you can get a Vios or Almera at wayyyyy lower price. So what with 6 speed transmission. Not even TSI engine.

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Added on January 6, 2013, 12:49 pmLol, almost 100k you can add abit more to get a bigger Corolla Altis or Sylphy. For that level you can get a Vios or Almera at wayyyyy lower price. So what with 6 speed transmission. Not even TSI engine.

This post has been edited by winkiedilwy: Jan 6 2013, 12:49 PM

This is what I meant
Skoda/seat to compete with Toyota/Honda
Then vw to compete with ford etc
Then they have Audi to compete with merc/BMW etc
Later Lamborghini ,Bentley bla bla bla to compete with rolls Royce etc

So those who buy vw don't expect too much luxury from vw because they are not luxury cars

This post has been edited by ezmeer94: Jan 6 2013, 12:54 PM

Each person to his own with regards to what they feel about the car's exterior/interior/specifications.

http://www.kensomuse.com/the-polo-sedan-mo...en-in-malaysia/

Personally, I have always believed that if it is truly as bad as everyone says it is (in whichever aspect you wish you debate on; price, specs, design, etc), market forces would just kick them out. Not rocket science, just simple economics.

And from what we can observe for a newly launched car and VW had to resort to throwing all sorts of promotion and gimmicks to help move sales along, I think the Malaysian public has made it very clear to Volkswagen not to take us for fools, particularly when there are so many alternatives around. Having said that, I do believe the supra-RM100k mark serves a few purpose:

1) To test market to see how far Malaysians are willing to spend for the brand and specs
2) To maintain a higher selling price so that WHEN (no longer a question of IF) the CKD model rolls out, they need not slash too much profits or specs to be competitive against others.

With the discounts thrown in now, I'd say the Polo sedan is now offered at a fair price.

This post has been edited by kenso77: Jan 6 2013, 01:22 PM

That's because Toyota & Honda are not meeting European preference.In the USA, Passat is competing against Camry and Accord, hybrids are considered premium over downsized turbo charged engine and Skoda are never a choice there.

Skoda are doing well in the eastern European countries where Dacia and Lada are also on the list for potential buyers.

People will pay a premium for the features that VW is offering but not just for the brand. In term of brand, I would still say that VW is on the same level as Toyota, Honda and Ford.

If you watch my video before, Honda City is more expensive than VW Vento (Polo Sedan) in India.

This post has been edited by alg7_munif: Jan 6 2013, 01:38 PM

who said VW is above toyota/honda/ford? toyota are main competitor for VW what? VW = cars for everybody...n toyota got LEXUS...LEXUS is above VW brand or not now...

thats why in europe VW also have that "kosong" specs like we have in VIOS J...

only MALAYSIAN thinks VW is premium where its clearly for VW group...porsche is their PREMIUM brand...

ahaks!

Not 100%. Skoda competes with Peugeot, Citroen, Renault, Fiat, but mostly Hyundai and Kia. These cars are a bit below average in terms of pricing, maybe a thousand or two. Seat is priced a bit above Skoda, but they don't really matter that much. I expect better quality and better design from Skoda than from Seat.

Ford, Toyota, Honda are on a similar level in terms of pricing (IIRC), although the Japanese really don't matter anymore. They are not very competitive, and sales are poor. Who would buy a Toyota when they can have a Ford? Only a few uncles may do so because they remember that Toyota was good quality, long time ago. These days rather average.

VW costs a bit more than these. Not much, certainly the price difference is not as big as it is here. People seem to perceive VW is of better quality, and you just can't go wrong with a VW. Is it as pretty and dynamic as a Ford? As exciting as a Peugeot or Renault? As comfortable as a Citroen? Nah. But it is a damn good mix built to very high quality standards, perhaps the best compromise there is, with good resale value, and (foolishly?) people think it won't go wrong. VW also offers all the latest gadgets, like lane assist, curve light, automatic light/wipers/brakes, adaptive cruise control, ... if the tech exists VW offers it (Ford does it too). Of course if you want these gadgets prepare to eat bread for a long, long time. (Yesterday I have managed to specify an A class, starting at 23000 Euro, to 36000 (bigger engine and DSG) to cost 54000! And that is not with all the options, just those I'd want! Doubling the price of a car just through the options list is quite easy to do).

Basically VW is a bit like Toyota here, just that, well, the cars are much better. There is always a car that in a certain discipline beats the Polo, Golf, Passat, Touran, ... but overall the package VW offers is very good.

In the Malaysian market they have managed to bring that image even further, and they are stressing they are German, since, well, I guess Germany has quite a reputation for cars, and they can get some of that shine from brands like Porsche, Mercedes, BMW and Audi. If only Ford, which in Germany is considered a local brand just like Opel is too, could do the same.

Here they could send Skoda to go against Toyota/Honda. In terms of design Skoda is quite elegant, uncle-ish. It is also offering tons of space for a low price, the quality is rock solid, the cars are reliable. All that is needed is good resale value and a better image. But look at the progress Kia and Hyundai has made, even in the mindset of people. Don't you think VW could achieve the same in Malaysia, especially when they stress Skodas connection to VW?

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Added on January 6, 2013, 1:48 pmIn Germany VW is clearly above T/H/F. I think I should know. Not by much, but it is. The distance to true premium brands is bigger. But VW _is_ considered a bit premium over T/H/F. As I mentioned before, the C segment is commonly refered to as Golf segment in Germany. It is THAT dominant.

Toyota got Lexus... but Lexus hardly sells any cars in Germany. VW has, on the same level as Lexus, Audi. And Audi does sell cars. Lexus is the best Toyota can offer... VW can go above Audi though. Porsche, Bentley, Lamborghini, Bugatti. Porsche is not a premium brand, it's a sports car maker with some ugly forays into SUVs and 4 door GTs.

Btw., Mercedes also has kosong specs. Actually, Mercedes was known to be very kosong. Like "Huh? You want seats? That's optional, will cost you a few thousand." All the other brands the same. Only brands that were not empty were brands like Kia and Hyundai, since they tried to undercut the established brands to get traction.

This post has been edited by kadajawi: Jan 6 2013, 01:48 PM

Yes its true, you should slamming your face on the world, because you say such nonsense. LoL

Did I say anybody is recommending the altis?

Again you should your face on the wall.

I am saying everybody is buying the altis..i see a lot of 1.8Es on the road, even the low spec 1.6.

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Added on January 6, 2013, 3:30 pmIts not just the polo sedan thats high priced but I just don't understand who would want to buy the VW Golf Gti at 160k ?

No joke.

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Added on January 6, 2013, 3:31 pm\Golf Gti also sold at premium, do you think its worth 160k?

I think its a nice ride but at 160k is pricey.

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Added on January 6, 2013, 3:35 pmI think major reason why VW is so premium is because most VWs are not CKD cars so they subject to higher import duties. With the exception of the Passat CC, which is assembled here.

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Added on January 6, 2013, 3:39 pmYeah I agree. At first they offer me rebates as high as 12k, I thought it too good to be true so I waited.

I think the Polo Sedan's nearest competition is the Peogeot 207 which sells at 73k. If the price drops to 73k, then the price is fair.


This post has been edited by Alvin330000421: Jan 6 2013, 03:39 PM

storngly agree with u!

i see VW as a normal car in europe just like toyota in malaysia...

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Added on January 6, 2013, 3:56 pmstorngly agree with u!

i see VW as a normal car in europe just like toyota in malaysia...

This post has been edited by Daniel John: Jan 6 2013, 03:56 PM

The GTI is a performance car. As such it is expensive. Renaults pricing is even more self confident. The Clio RS (B segment!) is just below 200k. The Megane RS is like 240k, and that's a Golf GTI/R competitor!

At 85k I think the Polo is a bit expensive, but it's not as overpriced the Vios is. To be honest, weren't it for the Fiesta I'd say it's rather good value. A medium spec Polo in Europe wouldn't be much less than that either.

Gti is a performance car but looks a bit ordinary. Seriously are you willing to pay 160k for a sports car that looks like a family car.

I would rather go for the Sirocco is I wanted a sports car, even if it means to cost more.

Fiesta has a lot of cool gadgets and great engine but the car is very very small.

Polo Sedan's back seat is ok, fit nicely and boot space is big.

You keep saying Fiesta is very very very very very very the small.

It is longer and wider than a Myvi, and is wider and has a longer wheelbase than a Saga.

It is not as tall as a Myvi, which is good. But it is not as small as you repeatedly make it out to be. Go seat in the driver seat of both cars, try to rest your right elbow on the door panel, you'll see what I mean.

If the Fiesta is small, the Myvi must be tiny then.

This post has been edited by dares: Jan 6 2013, 04:47 PM

Look, the fiesta back space is tight, boot space is small. Polo sedan is ok.

That is the difference if not count in fiesta's better engine and gadgets.

MYVi never fell into the picture because I never consider Myvi in the first place. I never say Myvi was a big car to start with.

You kereta potong fans always put words in my mouth, just like kidmax.

What does this have to do with Proton? Did Proton fell into the picture?

It is you who keep saying Fiesta very very small, did you not? In the B-segment, it is a decent size car, you are the one who keep harping on it is very very small. Did I put the "very very small" words into your mouth?

This post has been edited by dares: Jan 6 2013, 04:54 PM

hey chillax...fiesta hatch or fiesta sedan are we talking about?