But the issue on abalone is much more subjective compared to cars as specs and engine performance can be measured and compared. 

i still cant find the answer why is the VW is premium brand in malaysia

Again I would like to point out that VW is selling the Vento cheaper than Honda City in India. So why should we pay more here in Malaysia. Saying VW has more premium over Toyota and Honda is rubbish. They are all more or less in the same level depending on where they are sold and which specific product you look at. In the USA Polo 1.2 TSI is not selling well but Prius C is a big hit. If the car offers you more features that you like then you can pay a premium for it but if it is just a bare car, I don't think VW should be priced more than Toyota/Honda and vice versa. Maybe you are willing to pay more for a better interior and newer transmission in the Polo sedan but don't pay more for the brand.

If they ever CKD all their Polos and Golfs here, will the prices drop significantly? Or will we be able to buy a Polo GTI for RM100k?

Or it'll be just like Toyota and Honda?

B segment car, pricing matter most. Being outdated design/tech, no variable valve timing,..... does not matter that much. Price it at rm7xk, then only u can see some number on the road. That the price ppl would pay for B segment car.

Or maybe the Indian production facilities aren't prepared for the installation of the missing airbags and ESP? Hm...

Sure? VWs lines should be quite advanced, they are used to produce many different versions of a car on one line. In Germany it is common to order exactly the car that you want. The color, the features, the interior trim. They should be able to produce anything for which there are parts available. Actually the latest generation of production lines (in combination with MQB based cars) should be able to produce several different cars on one line (with a few additions to the production line). So a Golf could be produced, then a Polo, then a Fabia, Octavia, A3, ... all on one line. At least that's what I read from their marketing materials... (most likely it'll just be 2 different models, not 5...).

The Japanese are not this flexible I guess.

My friend who bought a S5 has been waiting around 6 months now. It was finally produced recently and he is waiting for delivery.

Actually these cars may not be produced in Germany. IIRC some VW for the German market are produced in Africa, some in Eastern Europe, ... these too are built to order.

I think less advanced lines could be the problem, yes. Hopefully at least the quality is fine.

by saying that...they dumped the tech but we malaysian paying for premium merely just for the badge...

if u guys are into luxury car segment, u shud well know that vw is peoples car.

whether its polo, golf jetta passat all the way to phantom, its no where near a bm or merc

check out

http://paultan.org/2012/08/13/volkswagen-p...orth-two-myvis/

people's car guys, get it!

and having a slightly fast car because of a force-induced engine doenst mean ur car is super good guys, a good car has so much more than just power!???

this silly brand is just overpriced in malaysia, and sad to say there are so many fools who buy vw and think they are driving premium/luxury cars.

even to some bms and mercs are low end luxury rides - some take to pasar malam park roadside...

they look no less than a porsche, bentley, maseratis, aston's etc..

digest the facts n accept the reality

bro,

marketing n perception only works for dummies and really there r lots of dummies around esp in msia

for real drivers, we buy what worth our value n hard earned $

Driven both, though BMW usually only passenger. Yes, if you want to go sideways BMW is better.

And no, I do know a bit about driving dynamics, and I do see the difference between different cars. But for the normal driver is there really such a big difference between a VW and a BMW? Some, yes. Of course especially when you push it. But who does that over here?

I'm not a big fan of VW, Fords are usually better to drive, have better gearboxes (at least the manual ones). Steering can be a bit numb and too easy on VWs, Ford usually gets it right. But they are not bad cars. Just the goal is a bit different, ease of use is placed above drivers engagement.

Ps: At least that Kancil has a manual gearbox. Big improvement over almost any auto gearbox in terms of driving pleasure.

Pps: My friend who ordered the Audi S5 quattro? He is a BMW fan, always been. He wanted to get a 335i xDrive instead. After driving the Audi he booked it. Much better interior, doesn't feel as cheap as the 3 series. Better ride, better handling, better steering, better engine. In every way a better car than the 3 series.

my posts were simple - just saying vw is ppls car n not near luxury or premium

But over here people do pay a premium for the brand alone. See Toyota Camry or Toyota Vios.

Btw., I just read an article in a newspaper about there being few differences between premium and non-premium brands, apart from the margins the manufacturers enjoy (VW, Toyota around 1000 Euro per car, premium brands around 4000 Euro. Peugeot and Citroen lose money per car). Merc has big issues with rust these days. The next 1 series will have front wheel drive. BMW wants to use the same parts across their range. The Golf 7 beat the 1 series, A3 and A class in a recent review, A class was worst. I think it was the A class where you have to use a stick to keep up the hood, instead of gas dampeners. Tons of cost cutting by the premium brands.

Yeah, but what about actually manufacturing the cars here? Not just putting them together. Set up a factory for MQB cars, so they can produce the whole range if they want to.

with this budget go buy a jap car though ckd

trust me their reliability will not hurt ur wallet 5 yrs down the road

y i say so?  coz ppl buy 100k cars are GENERALLY not rich and maintenace will hurt u if not careful

u dun wanna swipe ur card to service ur car or replace ur air con compressor right?  and then apply for 12 mths installment

lol

Passenger lor...

@Hou...: You again. Last time I checked VW was a German brand, and Germany happens to be in Europe. Continental then. The sedan is btw. just the sedan version of the Polo hatchback. It still is a Polo, even if a bit downgraded (but far more spacious, and since people here tend to complain about leg room...).

@zweimmk: Why? Lots of outdated, proven tech. Could be quite reliable and long lasting.

Bro, don just compare regular maintenance...imagine if ur windscreen chipped, which do u think cheaper to replace? Minor accident front left light broken / aircond compressor jam etc, again which 1 repair cheaper? 

If ur luck is good & with 15k service interval, PS should be cheaper to maintain.