Then those who buy Ford Fiesta cars, can say it is Thai car because it is manufactured in Rayong.

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Added on January 4, 2013, 9:51 pm

But affordable VW. Most VW is above 140k except for the super small Polo Sport Tsi.

polo sedan has 4 airbags if im not mistaken..

Lets put aside the spec being low & without turbo. Look past that & actually you have to give credit that its ride and handling actually is very good indeed matching the like of fiesta & their own polo hatch. The interior space is large enough to beat fiesta & again the polo hatch. If want a good ride handling car like conti, new not 2nd hand, need space, boot, cheap and non national car....u r only left with polo sedan.

From the statement i guess you have not even test driven it yet. Anyway, go ahead & read local test drive review such as Paultan. They admit its quite close.

It is a class above than the rest of the B-segments, with the exception of the Fiesta.

fiesta handling is good compare to what car? satria neo?

because sedan dont have DSG but the tsi does

IMO, Polo sedan looks awfully bad in the brochure but in real life its quite good looking car... seen a few of them OTR and quite like the sleek elegant and clean design... pawn vios city almera like no tomorrow but for the price and spec given its definitely a rip off... and the interior is a big turn off too...   

Yes true but insight's transmission sux. Acceleration is bad.

Plus resale value is not very good.

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Added on January 6, 2013, 9:51 am

Actually if one can get the polo sedan at 85k, its not a bad price, even when the car does not have tsi, dsg, extra air bags for back passengers and stability.

Toyota Altis for eg, the low spec 1.8E is priced at 113k.

The car doesn't have stability, no electronic break assists. Don't you think the Altis is more overpriced?

I disagree. VW sits in the space between normal brands such as Toyota, Honda, Ford and premium brands such as Mercedes, BMW, Audi and Volvo.

They are certainly more expensive than their competitors in Germany. However the price difference is not very big, true premium brands are much more expensive.

To me the Polo sedan would be a medium spec German Polo. Quite powerful engine, and auto gearbox. Entry level Polos don't have air con. Of course in terms of safety features even an entry level Polo beats the crap out of the sedan here.

You brought myvi into the picture wat, why now i cannot bring kereta potong into picture?

You put words into my mouth because i never say myvi is small.

Your eyes something wrong lar, just like kidmax...I now know why kereta potong got so many quality problems, you and kidmax must be working on the tanjung malim assembly plant, making all the silly mistakes.

Eh, obviously polo sedan is a bigger car than fiesta. Have you ever sat in both of these cars? If not then shut up and don't act smart. Stick to what you do best, assemble bad proton cars then spend a fortune maintaining them back. I know you and dares wanna be mechanics but buying a bad proton to learn how to be one and spend thousands to repair it, is not the path to be one. Go to schools like TOC, can save half the cost and make you ultras realise that german tech, whether come from India or not, is superior than your kereta potong ala donkey cart.

You tell your best fren kidmax lar...lebih baik kereta india tapi approve by german QC than kereta potong ala high maintenance.

You fren kidmax must be on ecstacy, cannot see that when raining, the rain is hitting his head through his rusted kereta potong roof.

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Added on January 6, 2013, 5:47 pm

Apa salah dapat VW drp India? Fiesta also come from Rayong, thailand what.

NOwadays almost everything is made in china.

But anything made by kereta potong, hahahaha, i pity you people must be high on ecstacy, cannot see the bad stuff in your cars.

Sure? VWs lines should be quite advanced, they are used to produce many different versions of a car on one line. In Germany it is common to order exactly the car that you want. The color, the features, the interior trim. They should be able to produce anything for which there are parts available. Actually the latest generation of production lines (in combination with MQB based cars) should be able to produce several different cars on one line (with a few additions to the production line). So a Golf could be produced, then a Polo, then a Fabia, Octavia, A3, ... all on one line. At least that's what I read from their marketing materials... (most likely it'll just be 2 different models, not 5...).

The Japanese are not this flexible I guess.

Haha, I was driving bus. Free public transport for students, very convenient and cheap. No need for car. Longer distances I traveled with strangers, share the fuel costs.

@HouLanSaiLei: The difference is: In Europe they have entry level Polos and Golfs. Even the empty Polo sedan here is better equipped than the entry level Polo in Europe (apart from ESP and perhaps 6 airbags rather than 4, not sure though). The price difference isn't that big between Malaysia and Germany, it's just that they can chose to have a Golf with less than 140 hp, which saves a lot of money. Drop the DSG and you save around RM 8000. Do you think all those Polos and Golfs that everyone drives in Germany has 140 hp? Most will be driving around with 60 to 90 hp. No auto gearbox, few luxuries. They are like Myvis and Vivas... because they are equipped like Myvis and Vivas! Entry level Polo comes without aircondition.

@lencent: Contis have a different pedal setup than Japanese cars. They will let you drive gentle if you want to, if you want to accelerate hard you just have to press down further. In Japanese cars the first 10% give you between 0 and 100% of the power, after that comes nothing, no matter how hard you press. (I exaggerate.) With a conti only pressing down 100% means 100% of the power. 50% is maybe 50% of the power. I prefer it that way, since you can dose it precisely, but you have to get used to it.


I wouldn't call this slow.

Cause no one told normal people like you, so they can still keep the price high. More profit la...

The only protection that I suspect is there is that a too low price for a non national car won't be approved. That's why non national B segment cars start at 70k, while national ones start at 40k. However the taxes are the same for both, so national cars need to be produced as cheap as possible, with little profit. Non national cars have much higher profit margins since their price is higher despite similar production costs. Some manufacturers like Ford chose to offer more value for the money by accepting the high price, but offering a powerful engine, modern gearbox, lots of safety features etc. Other manufacturers chose to maximize profits by giving entry level Viva sort of specs for the same price.

A Vios can probably really be sold for Proton Saga sort of money. That's why Toyota employees get so much bonus.

Btw. I'm not UMNO supporter. If I were patriotic enough I'd only buy Ford, VW, Merc, BMW, Audi or Porsche. But if I had to buy a car now... it'd probably be the Preve.