1 for sea 1 for freshwater. dont think so its rusty, the pics is not clear but i think what u saw is just the lubricant. and isnt that piece suppose to be stainless steel?

hmm... they shud really make it all comes in stainless steel, since its so vulnerable

some reels are not designed for sea fishing..

Esp spinning reel's category. Due to the extreme exerted power from sea fishes, some of the T bar(where the reel seats) are reinforced. Some of the spinning reels are heavy drags too...

For baitcasting pulak, it's the frame and the spool material..

hi all, would like to ask sifu here
im really new to deep sea but would start to join one soon maybe
my budget for rod and rell is rm400
my question is which of these are good for deep sea?
tica seasport ss348r/c vs shimano calcutta 201b vs shimano cardiff 100a

as for rod, i read should go for Medium or Hard right

any other tips? like tools etc?
my toolbox now only has small sinker heaviest is around 200g/300g only
and what about leader line? must be steel type?

really need guidance from sifu here

thx

ic, say around 200m water deep
but kinda crazy to think u need to do bottom fishing cast till 200m deep and reel back up again to redo the bait..

im looking at some 2nd hand ones for now, cos not really wana spend too much since.. not sure will do this for long term.

really need high budget to go to deep sea? I'm not sure about this cos this will be my first time out to deep sea if it happens

usually im just beach, river, pond, jungle and island fishing only. Island fishing max only around 20-30m deep on a small boat

i work for a bearing distributor....for RM20 price range, the bearings if made in Japan probably not stainless steel ( but honestly you can get stainless steel Japan made if the shop do not make any mark up ).
If it is stainless steel, it is probably made in China.
any yes like katsumoto2011 says not all stainless steel are the same, there are types of stainless steel and even same type from different country can be different ( the most obvious is fm china ).

your bearings failed if it is not rust, it means contamination. the grease inside traps small particles as it is not a sealed bearing.
bearings hv 2 kinds of seals....a steel shield & rubber seal. besides that there are also various type of seals for different application.
steel shield ( chrome colour ) hv gaps ( non contact ) while rubber seal is contact seal ( usually black colour ).
rubber seal is better at protecting the bearing but hv less speed ( cos full contact with no air gap ) also cannot use where temp is high.
steel shields hv more speed & can use at higher temp but easily contaminated.
rubber seal is abt 50% speed of the steel shield bearings but honestly i thk in most fishing conditions the bearings do not even exceed 5k rpm and a typical rubber seal bearing max speed is easily 20-30k rpm.

ceramic bearings are the best but very costly.
hybrid ceramic bearings is another option ( balls are ceramic but inner & outer ring is bearing steel ) but the bearing steel can also corrode. china made hybrid ceramics costs maybe less than RM100 a pc. a german made is easily 2-4x the price fm a china made.

bearings also hv precisions & tolerances. Usually reputable manufacturers will use a higher grade accuracy & tolerance with stainless steel or anti corrosion coated ball bearings fm a reputable bearings manufacturer.
you can buy the same bearing fm a reputable bearing manufacturer but it will be expensive cos you only buy a few pcs only.

and then bearings also have clearance + preload. it's a bit too technical to go into but if you ever buy a confirmed higher grade ( anti corrosion ) bearing but find that the balance/feeling of the reel is wrong then it is probably cos of the bearing clearance.

my adv to you is if you have a good reel, at least go for a stainless steel....if your reel is a stella, saltiga, accurates, etc pay more for at least a japanese made stainless steel bearing with a higher grade( price shd be below RM100 depending on the size )
as for the seals of the bearings i would prefer a rubber seal cos of protection. but even rubber steel nds to change as it will eventually rusts.

a good bearing is smooth & hv no problem on the speed.
but bearings are mechanical parts thus they hv wear & tear.
bearings can be contaminated.....

for kakis who know how & loves to repair/service their own reel....my advise is to buy an open bearing ( stainless steel ) with no seals. you can easily flush out the wash the bearings & flush out the grease, then replace the grease after the bearing dries after washing.
if you decide to take my advise ......PLS CLEAN YR BEARINGS EACH TIME because without a seal particles are easily trapped in the grease & the bearings will jam.

fyi, the best type of bearings are precision & ceramic type made fm a well known & reputable high precision bearings manufacturer....and yes don't believe if it says high precision ball bearings on the box ( cos u nd to find out who the manufacturer & where it is made ).......and yes even the worlds's biggest and well known ball bearings maker SKF.....hv factories in China...Ha ha!

The shimano calcutta and shimano cardiff are baitcasters if i'm not mistaken. If they are, definitely not for deep sea fishing. The Tica seaspirit looked more like a multiplier but i don't suggest anything with level wind, which is that "thingy" that arranges the line, especially if you are fighting a big fish, that piece will break.
the keywords for the reel that you are searching are multiplier reel, 2 speed, level drag, shimano TLD, Penn International, Okuma, Ajiking. (it wouldn't hurt to consider electric reels too, 200m is really too much)
leaders you will need both cable and shock leaders, the mainline attaches to the shock leader, attaches to the cable which then ties the hook. even though it's optional for everyone but that's how I do when I expect carnivorous fish with sharp teeth.
if you play sinker, a spreader (tanduk in malay) is a must have.

ic, say around 200m water deep
but kinda crazy to think u need to do bottom fishing cast till 200m deep and reel back up again to redo the bait..

im looking at some 2nd hand ones for now, cos not really wana spend too much since.. not sure will do this for long term.

really need high budget to go to deep sea? I'm not sure about this cos this will be my first time out to deep sea if it happens

usually im just beach, river, pond, jungle and island fishing only. Island fishing max only around 20-30m deep on a small boat

thx guys for the input
yeah seem my budget is too low and i need to do more home work on this but the info you all gave is very much appreciated. I know what are the things i should look at now. its my fren actually keep poisoning me to go deep sea hahaha so now looking at these things

Place to fish : Near Mengalun Island in Sabah
i read somewhere or heard from someone before the depth there can reach to 200M
as this is first time i'm out to sea (if jadi lah), i would try bottom, jigging and popping too. Mostly would be just bottom and jigging. I guess bottom would be the one using the multiplier, i need to search more in this then

thx all

Rakuten fishfullhouse

ABUs are still the best value for money all round performers
4600c3/5600c3/6600c3 and other variations in between
4600c4/5600c4/6600c4
kalex60/61
salt & fresh
c3 has three BB, c4 has 4BB
6600 has line out clicker, as do the kalex
difference between them is line capacity
they come with synchronised level winds which is good for even line lay whether line is being reeled in OR going out

ticas are an alternative but from what i've seen of one (not sure whether all are like that), adjusting brakes on the fly is not encouraged
banax, okuma
calcutta TE is the best

guys one question here
to buy braid lines for sea fishing, i've checked on map how deep the place im fishing
depth around 40-70M deep, how long should my braid line be at least? twice the max depth?

thx

icic ok thx, yeah was thinking twice the depth and even more
hope doesn't tangle but who knows

1dollar bro ... !
http://www.mudah.my/Shimano+calcutta+conqu...50-22109903.htm
if i have marney i sapu ....

Chilakak!!! someone pls BUY!!!! i not righty with righty reels.
but damn cheap,.. rod about 120,.. reel 630... haihsss.
BNIB is about 1.3K leh

I'm from Sabah here
So may go to Pulau Mengalun to fish
but not for now yet, trying to get the gears first, basic ones only 
will not happen that soon too, maybe 2 months from now hehe

minimum 300 yard or 275m, just like what other brudders said.. cilakacuda come sure jialat.com

sometime buntal / puffer fish might cut/chew off ur line also... 80lbs braid line clean cut    kena twice before around 150m gone lol.

Anybody going for the fair this weekend?

Jom convoy.

I see pure fishing malaysia heavily advertsing on FB on a lot of mark down prices.
TCE also big booth.
Shimano...

hope can get some other goodies like tents, camping gears...etc