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 Sony Xperia Z & Xperia ZL Official Thread, 5", 4core, 2GBram, 13mp, LTE, waterproof

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post Jan 21 2013, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Jan 21 2013, 05:34 PM)
the only explaination is software.

like n8, before p.r. 1.2 camera quality is the best after each update the quality drop like hell.  sweat.gif  doh.gif
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really? i feel tat the n8 camera respond faster after each update laugh.gif
or maybe they r using exmor much cheaper sensor type ?

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Jan 21 2013, 06:28 PM)
The image comparison, even tho the Z have 13MP, the resolve detail when 100% crop seems to be at some point worst then iphone lower MP camera. Not really encouraging. But then again Apple was always good at squeezing good quality out of lower MP camera since last time.
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that is jepg compression lar
sony compress the photo too much, there r many mod in xda
2 edit few line n thn u can get the photo in uncompressed 100% quality

or the normal 10% compression set by many camera laugh.gif

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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 21 2013, 06:40 PM)
i dont really understand bout the technical part but may i ask why sony compress the photo too muc? is it to save space by making the pic small in size?
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yup sony compression u get 2 mb per photo in jpeg format
uncompressed jepg u get 4 mb to 6 mb per photo in 12 megapixel to 13 megapixel

these r the size differences, if u take many many photo it will definitely eat spaces
thn the camera r not fast like camera, n some photo taken might not be the 1 u want
n furthermore with the xperia Z burst most u get 10 photos per sec
so it really take up spaces, if u decrease the compression,
the SD card tat u used must be fast in writing high volume of data down also
so really got pro n con there


if in dslr camera u even can choose 100% uncompressed raw
10 mb ++ to 60 mb per photo n various with megapixel

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QUOTE(arslow @ Jan 21 2013, 06:50 PM)
the shirt comparison...all three completely diff color lol. they should have a control image taken by some high end DSLR so that we can actually know what is the ACTUAL colour of all the environment and stuffs
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the comparison is also not very accurate
2 get accurate comparison n result, the iso must be the same also

even shutter rate also, but kinda impossible 2 adjust shutter rate
bcauz it is not a advance camera laugh.gif but possible with iso
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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Jan 21 2013, 06:56 PM)
I take N8 as a comparison as this is the camera i have now. with some mod, the 12MP size can easily reach 10MB if the image is rich enough...

Yes, the time between shot will be longer with less compression, but in the Z with S4 Pro I believe the latency between capture should not be as terrible as the N8.
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but most of the time is the SD card problem
delay write, if u use lower class SD card
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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Jan 21 2013, 07:01 PM)
I dont read chinese, but I believe the test was done on auto mode to be fair. It as much in testing the camera as it is in testing the camera software. Which i think is fair.

To test purely on the sensor capability then yes, u need to set all ISO to be the same.

U can notice the tuning is diff. In some case the Z prefer higher ISO or longer exposure compare to the OPPO, making dark picture brighter but more noisier for Z.
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thn tis review is not just comparing the camera itself
it is comparing the camera n the software also laugh.gif
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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Jan 21 2013, 07:04 PM)
duno bout tht.. i didnt use SD on my N8.
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i mean most of the cameras lar u will notice the difference whn u use lower class SD card
in phone the storage tat they used normally good n high speed 1

but if u buy SD card at outside, some ppl will say 64GB i can get in RM 20 ady
y u buy a hundred ringgit 1? but they don't knw abt the speed n class difference n the importance of it
so like tat lar, after using thn u will notice the difference laugh.gif
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QUOTE(teohat @ Jan 21 2013, 08:30 PM)
That's the whole point.
It's like comparing between two DSLR cameras, let's say Camera Zet and Camera Way. If Camera Zet has better lens than Camera Way, but can't produce good photo quality of the software unless "rooted" and modded, there's no point to it.

Since many users have even voice out this concern in Sony Mobile's forum, I think they should at least provide the users with options to choose. By this, those who wants to upload to Facebook or other website can select the options to compromise the picture size.
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but in DSLR they don't compare in this way bcauz u can't get a correct result

but the option to choose compression type is good
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QUOTE(freakenstein @ Jan 22 2013, 04:23 PM)
Probably , they are not willing to name it tho.
Sos
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tat is bcauz of the brand value lar
there r many phone or device tat use corning glass or AGC glass
but in fact if u check there r difference in spec n type they used
thicker/ thinner 1/ the differences in strength etc

like u heard ppl say my screen is gorilla glass by corning but it still break / scratched
corning cheat ppl, n if sony advertise they use the glass, ppl will feel reluctant 2 buy it

so instead they would not want 2 advertise abt tat part

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QUOTE(redlyfs @ Jan 22 2013, 04:56 PM)
I can testify Corning cracks. Happened to my phone HTC Sensation. Though my phone drops many times before there's this once dropped from bed to floor. I didn't notice it at first but can clearly see at an angle.
Btw, here's another screen comparison between Xperia Z and S3. Dunno which to believe now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe...d&v=H-XdtQf13tc

http://www.androidiani.com/wp-content/uplo...es-emerge-1.jpg
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i think it is better 2 believe own eyes
whn released go there n test laugh.gif
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QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Jan 22 2013, 05:41 PM)
bring a hammer to sony centre and ask can test the glass or not..then bang the heck out of it.  tongue.gif
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inb4 nokia 3310 laugh.gif


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QUOTE(teckyang97 @ Jan 22 2013, 05:48 PM)
Look at how many times he hit lumia and 3310,totally unfair
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tis is a cut out, there is a complete version somewhere laugh.gif
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QUOTE(mcchin @ Jan 22 2013, 07:23 PM)
actually
if you see
the 3310 broke the hammer
what the dude is holding is just the wooden handle

the hammer head is disintegrated whistling.gif
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inb4

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QUOTE(freakenstein @ Jan 22 2013, 10:53 PM)
Of course , on some circumstances it will break , its a glass and why would anyone be feeling reluctant to be getting a better glass than a regular toughened one? Anyway still , the Z's design is great and sexy.. Who would think of putting the back glass as well? Nexus 4 , now this , Apple's trend at its best!
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i mean they would not advertise the brand of glass they used
but instead they advertise it as a strong brand-less harden glass 2 avoid misconception

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QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Jan 23 2013, 05:26 PM)
Sudden realization...
As I mentioned before, the Z's speaker location is at the same location where the shutter button on ZL..
Meanwhile, the ZL speaker is at the bottom of the phone..
I went googling around and noticed..
There are no dock for ZL...
As if the phone were to have a dock, won't the speaker be covered by the docking itself?  shakehead.gif

junsheng, if the ZL is to release in Malaysia , then I think both bundle will be standardized, which mean, there might be no docking included in Z's bundle...

This are only my thoughts..
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nope most likely it is landscape dock with no full back support
here is 1 of the example of xperia T's dock

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


4 the things tat included in the box, i can't really say
tis u will need 2 confirm with the seller,
bcauz different distributor may get different bundle

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QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Jan 23 2013, 06:21 PM)
Hope Sony won't disappoint ZL's fan with no docking for it..
Don't only focus on Z and leave ZL in the shadow..huhu..
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i think u can get a custom made dock
xperia s got plenty of those thumbup.gif


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QUOTE(lonelywolf90 @ Jan 24 2013, 05:18 PM)
I see that the Xperia Z has speaker on one side only, does this mean it's mono?

Good or bad? @_@

It's so close to perfect.. I also wonder if the Xperia Z will have a lot of custom ROMs..
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most of the phones is mono speaker
only tablet come with stereo speaker
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QUOTE(lonelywolf90 @ Jan 25 2013, 10:39 AM)
If order from UK, will the warranty be honored here in Malaysia?

The UK Sony Xperia Z has multiple LTE bands?

As compared to Malaysia's upcoming Sony Xperia Z, Malaysia unit comes with only a single LTE band 7(2600MHz), right?
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nope no world wide warranty 4 phones
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QUOTE(OptimusStar @ Jan 25 2013, 10:39 AM)
Saw the pre-order in clove uk, just wondering does Sony warranty covers globally ?
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not for phone
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QUOTE(wcypierre @ Jan 25 2013, 06:13 PM)
where did you downloaded your pspocket and psstore? Can you share the link with me?  biggrin.gif  I downloaded some at xda but when I open psstore, an errors appears and it closed off.  sweat.gif
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psstore is official in google play you can download it in google play

2 download it from play store, unlock region lock on play store app
thn search 4 it

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