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 Patch 1.0.7 - Dueling, Crafting and More, PTR Confirmed for Patch 1.0.7

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post Jan 12 2013, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jan 12 2013, 03:25 PM)
Why there is no buff for Witch Doctor???

WHY??!!!!!  mad.gif  vmad.gif  mad.gif  vmad.gif
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Maybe the dead rate of wd is pretty low compare to monk & wiz... So that they feel that wd is stronger than monk & wiz...
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post Jan 12 2013, 05:00 PM

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So what do you guys think the effect of 1.0.7 on AH pricing?

My take away from those new rare recipes and crafting is they will be viable alternatives to AH, maybe even replacing current legendary BiS.
They are also not difficult to craft (components and recipes aren't hard to obtain), and odds to craft something useful is greatly improve since we can control the primary stat.
And they are account bound, thus effective gold sink in the economy.
With these, they will effectively set the upper pricing limit in AH of similar benefit items.
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post Jan 12 2013, 05:05 PM

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Even the demonic essence is account bound.
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post Jan 12 2013, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jan 12 2013, 03:25 PM)
Why there is no buff for Witch Doctor???

WHY??!!!!!  mad.gif  vmad.gif  mad.gif  vmad.gif
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It is quite telling that the WD is underpowered when they are the only class here that hasn't completed the MP10 uber challenge sad.gif

Maybe the buff you need is for MOBAJOBG to start a wd and join your game tongue.gif
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post Jan 12 2013, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(tgrrr @ Jan 12 2013, 05:00 PM)
So what do you guys think the effect of 1.0.7 on AH pricing?

My take away from those new rare recipes and crafting is they will be viable alternatives to AH, maybe even replacing current legendary BiS.
They are also not difficult to craft (components and recipes aren't hard to obtain), and odds to craft something useful is greatly improve since we can control the primary stat.
And they are account bound, thus effective gold sink in the economy.
With these, they will effectively set the upper pricing limit in AH of similar benefit items.
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the odds are horrible trust me. Is like crafting a hellfire ring but this time u wanna get 5 perfectly rolled stats. Have u ever crafted a say trifecta hellfire ring?

I think the BIS legendary will stay pricey. but the crafting is good for the economy cuz ppl would wanna craft now. I know i'm interested in crafting too but is going to be slow one. The plans, demonic essence would be dropping easily on say the first few days but after that mehhhhh
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post Jan 12 2013, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Jan 12 2013, 05:07 PM)
It is quite telling that the WD is underpowered when they are the only class here that hasn't completed the MP10 uber challenge sad.gif

Maybe the buff you need is for MOBAJOBG to start a wd and join your game tongue.gif
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WD are not underpowered. They are just generally SLOW.

Farm slow -> Less drops -> Less gold -> hard to upgrade and hence they feel underpowered.
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post Jan 12 2013, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Jan 12 2013, 05:12 PM)
WD are not underpowered. They are just generally SLOW.

Farm slow -> Less drops -> Less gold -> hard to upgrade and hence they feel underpowered.
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wrong on all counts lolz tongue.gif
farm fast .. any other char can gain 94% MS?
i hv 2 more rows to fill in one tab to for a full unid legs (i'll printscreen if u need prove tongue.gif legs from few days only)
Gold? with my pickup radius and my 94% MS .. i hv no problem obtaining gold

The only problem WD hv is on high mp games .. we are the only class that dont gain resource from crits . crits = dmg = more resource for other classes .. therefore other classes can do quite well on high mp ... for WD, enormous health on higher mp mobs = running out of mana = 0 dps (no other way to regain mana other than regen)

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post Jan 12 2013, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(Gecko @ Jan 12 2013, 05:49 PM)
wrong on all counts lolz  tongue.gif
farm fast .. any other char can gain 94% MS?
i hv 2 more rows to fill in one tab to for a full unid legs (i'll printscreen if u need prove  tongue.gif  legs from few days only)
Gold? with my pickup radius and my 94% MS .. i hv no problem obtaining gold

The only problem WD hv is on high mp games .. we are the only class that dont gain resource from crits . crits = dmg = more resource for other classes .. therefore other classes can do quite well on high mp ... for WD, enormous health on higher mp mobs = running out of mana = 0 dps (no other way to regain mana other than regen)
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Nah i'm not entirely right maybe but definitely not wrong on all counts. You just won't accept WD is a slow class.

94% MS? Sure, if that's constant then yeah. I have 114% MS on my DH with TA + Shadow Glide. But that's temporary so no point mentioning it. The only thing it does is to help reduce the time between mobs. So if u gonna put it that way, your 94% loses out.

Don't have to printscreen la. I'm sure other classes can have full page of unid legs as well. So that's not relevant.

Gold? Lol. I don't mean the gold you pickup. But if u going to go there, let me tell u this. I have 13 on my farming gears and i pickup all the gold on the floor. So i think anything more than 20 is overkill. Again, not helping you prove you are a faster class.

Nothing to do with high MP farming here. I'm talking about how WD is a slow class. Burst damage? so so la. That farming speed is the thing you lack (don't know how to describe it but is just the overall feel).

Crowd Control? You guys undisputed number ONE.

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post Jan 12 2013, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Jan 12 2013, 05:12 PM)
WD are not underpowered. They are just generally SLOW.

Farm slow -> Less drops -> Less gold -> hard to upgrade and hence they feel underpowered.
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again i was replying to your original post
i'll make a vid soon (since my rig hv no prblm with lag or video rcrding sware llike some ppl do tongue.gif ) to prove your original post regarding WD farming slow is wrong.
On max mp2 i can maintain my 94% MS 80% of the time since i can jaunt/stalk to one pack to another and get cooldown on those mobility skills by killing mobs fast.

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post Jan 12 2013, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(Gecko @ Jan 12 2013, 06:21 PM)
again i was replying to your original post
i'll make a vid soon (since my rig hv no prblm with lag or video rcrding sware llike some ppl do  tongue.gif ) to prove your original post regarding WD farming slow is wrong.
On max mp2 i can maintain my 94% MS 80% of the time since i can jaunt/stalk to one pack to another and get cooldown on those mobility skills by killing them fast.
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sry la. student here no money buy rig and get con by apple again. what to do? =(

but yeah, my reply to you previously is the same as the original post.

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post Jan 12 2013, 06:26 PM

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Anyway, Blizzard should try to implement new affixes such as physical/elemental immunity on mobs like in D2. That would promote team play i think.
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post Jan 12 2013, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Jan 12 2013, 06:26 PM)
Anyway, Blizzard should try to implement new affixes such as physical/elemental immunity on mobs like in D2. That would promote team play i think.
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nice but dun get too hopeful as gay wilson is still the daddy brows.gif
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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Jan 12 2013, 05:07 PM)
It is quite telling that the WD is underpowered when they are the only class here that hasn't completed the MP10 uber challenge sad.gif

Maybe the buff you need is for MOBAJOBG to start a wd and join your game tongue.gif
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Yes, summoning MOBA. tongue.gif
MOBAJOBG

We tried many times @ MP10 uber... didn't work well.
Not enough "burst" damage... or the "burst" damage was just too slow.

Equipped myself with a skorn and start spamming bears.
But I was slow like a snail.
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post Jan 12 2013, 06:53 PM

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Holy mother of god, RUBY prices just matched Emeralds... Sky rocketed after the announcement.. luckily I have 10 stacks of flawless squares. Waiting for it to sky rocket some more.
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QUOTE(2890 @ Jan 12 2013, 05:12 PM)
WD are not underpowered. They are just generally SLOW.

Farm slow -> Less drops -> Less gold -> hard to upgrade and hence they feel underpowered.
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For me, WD is slow.
Slow, not in terms of farming.
Slow, in terms of high damage @ high MP.

i.e. bears are slow with slow weapon.

For low MP farming, WD can go extremely fast.
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there is buff for WD but not major ones if u actually read
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post Jan 12 2013, 07:02 PM

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What buff???

ALeUNe WD = don't really have burst damage, slow feel.
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and i try to make my first lvl60 WD today (to have all lvl60 per class).. last time i delete WD at lvl9...already make lvl60 wizard last nite..
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post Jan 12 2013, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Jan 12 2013, 07:02 PM)
What buff???

ALeUNe WD = don't really have burst damage, slow feel.
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This is why we keep whacking forever @ Uber MP10 until enrage timer. doh.gif
Couldn't even complete one portal.
Felt like not having enough damage.

Blizz needs to buff WDs.
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post Jan 12 2013, 07:20 PM

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WD do have burst dmg via Bears ... what WD dont hv is a way to replenish their resource fast (mana) other than regen to sustain the burst dmg.
How i wish WD can shoot into thin air and still gain resource like some class do @ spin non stop and gain resource thru crits lolz.
If blizz buff WD to gain mana thru crits i might consider stacking ias onto my gears .. until then .. let me be slow as snail but still hv mana therefore i can keep bears going so i wont die haha

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