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fe3doe
post Jan 8 2013, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jan 8 2013, 12:29 PM)
wow~ u progress so fast! your setup is good for PvP!
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post Jan 8 2013, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jan 8 2013, 12:28 PM)
single resist is not the issue, high Dex is. anything more than 100 dex will cost a bomb. whereas same stat but with str coz sooooo much less
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100 Dex is not an issue..its 100 Dex with 45-50% Crit Damage which is expensive as heck. Perhaps one way of getting round the 100 dex is getting a 80ish Dex but max ASI, since 1% ASi = roughly 15-18 Dex. But, TWH is a beast....
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post Jan 8 2013, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jan 8 2013, 12:31 PM)
Your belt can be replaced.
But you will have lower EHP due to loss of AR and may be VIT.

Use d3up to simulate your gear and find out your EHP.
I believe your EHP will go below 500K if you use TWH (more than 10% drop).

If I were you, i would replace a better belt, that boosts up both DPS and VIT (not necessary TWH).
Then, i think you need to upgrade your weapon.
Get a higher DPS Shenlong or go for EF/WKL combo or other better weapons.
Replace weapons could be the easiest way as it is likely you can keep your AR/VIT/EHP.
It's going to be costly though. I guess any most upgrade after 120K DPS is going to cost you a lot. Just be ready for that.
(Well, the cost could be lower if you want to have a "glass cannon" build)

P/S Get a better Vile Ward. It's bloody darn cheap now.
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im looking for a new shenlong to replace my offhand one. i've recently just upgraded my MH shenlong.
i will try to stick with shenlong as much as i can, no intention to change both fist yet, i dont know how well it could suit me yet. maybe need to find some monks and try borrow EF+WKL to test when i really consider changing it

my vile ward upgrade i search last week 60mil or above =_="
not going for glass cannon build. the top monk in US, i find that useless, dps cantik saja.
im building my monk with some balance, more towards dps i suppose.

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post Jan 8 2013, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jan 8 2013, 01:26 PM)
100 Dex is not an issue..its 100 Dex with 45-50% Crit Damage which is expensive as heck. Perhaps one way of getting round the 100 dex is getting a 80ish Dex but max ASI, since 1% ASi = roughly 15-18 Dex. But, TWH is a beast....
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emm... i guess, my cost a bomb is not your cost a bomb... more than 10mil cost a bomb for me... sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Jan 8 2013, 01:31 PM

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what's the APS of wearing the shenlongs?
I got EF+WKL can borrow u test water, of course la don't talk about the stats, they are not the best.
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post Jan 8 2013, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Jan 8 2013, 01:26 PM)
not going for glass cannon build. the top monk in US, i find that useless, dps cantik saja.
im building my monk with some balance, more towards dps i suppose.
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post Jan 8 2013, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jan 8 2013, 01:31 PM)
what's the APS of wearing the shenlongs?
I got EF+WKL can borrow u test water, of course la don't talk about the stats, they are not the best.
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Yuhhaur, just wanna as you one question. how do you find using WKL+BS in the higher MP (8 & above) looking for WKL with LS but cost a bomb.. =_= doh.gif
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post Jan 8 2013, 01:37 PM

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i wanted to try WKL and EF for the survivability on mp10, coz of the life steal. and also how fast can the lightning bonus kill compared to my current fists.

versus my shenlongs. my shenlong offers more dex and one of my shenlong is defaulted with att speed, based on my siggy updated ytd only. my attack speed is standing at 2.27
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post Jan 8 2013, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jan 8 2013, 01:31 PM)
emm... i guess, my cost a bomb is not your cost a bomb... more than 10mil cost a bomb for me...  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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cow pipu ppl again ah...you got so many skylight drops ..I am sure a few skylight would have netted you some really nice golds. 10M to get decent dex TWH? Impossibru..
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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jan 8 2013, 01:34 PM)
you are perfect! and i dont say that to any chix...  brows.gif
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lol, did you change ur setup to farm? how was it smile.gif

QUOTE(fe3doe @ Jan 8 2013, 01:36 PM)
Yuhhaur, just wanna as you one question. how do you find using WKL+BS in the higher MP (8 & above) looking for WKL with LS but cost a bomb.. =_=  doh.gif
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that BS very nice for rd packs.. drag one away and kill
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post Jan 8 2013, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jan 8 2013, 01:38 PM)
cow pipu ppl again ah...you got so many skylight drops ..I am sure a few skylight would have netted you some really nice golds. 10M to get  decent dex TWH? Impossibru..
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err... i do a lot of donations... i mostly donate all my skylight...

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post Jan 8 2013, 01:41 PM

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i have a confession im too greedy to hit my dex to 3k dex also laugh.gif
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post Jan 8 2013, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(fe3doe @ Jan 8 2013, 01:36 PM)
Yuhhaur, just wanna as you one question. how do you find using WKL+BS in the higher MP (8 & above) looking for WKL with LS but cost a bomb.. =_=  doh.gif
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It is great except that my WKL no LS/LoH, if the situation gets nasty (RD, 2-3 fire elites) I will have to swap out my WKL for a rare that gives me another 2.9%LS+700LoH.
Ghom+raka pack definitely had to use the rare. the other 2 packs can stick with WKL+BS
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QUOTE(paranoid @ Jan 8 2013, 01:37 PM)
i wanted to try WKL and EF for the survivability on mp10, coz of the life steal. and also how fast can the lightning bonus kill compared to my current fists.

versus my shenlongs. my shenlong offers more dex and one of my shenlong is defaulted with att speed, based on my siggy updated ytd only. my attack speed is standing at 2.27
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WKL lightning skill is very good if you use cookie cutter style, with high CC 40% above can easily churn out 5-6 tornadoes at one spot. Each tornado (whihc can crit as well) will do 20% of weapon damage which easily makes up to 30% of your total DPS. So, imagine giving a 20-25% boost on those damage range...chiak beh liao lor.


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post Jan 8 2013, 01:45 PM

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yea imagine a BIS roll WKL that had 6/25% more lightning
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post Jan 8 2013, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jan 8 2013, 01:41 PM)
err... i do a lot of donations... i mostly donate all my skylight...

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Pipu again..why u no donate to me and yuhhaur or paranoid.....hmmmmmmmmm

I donated a Death man mentle yesterday at MP10 after I picked it up..FUUUU my teammate who picked it was grumbling MP10 also can drop ilevel58 ..wuahahahah kena trolled smile.gif
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post Jan 8 2013, 01:46 PM

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hi, wanna ask, BS/EF can drag/fear uber boss?
long time didnt uber sad.gif
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post Jan 8 2013, 01:46 PM

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WKL dps range generally lower right?
roughly at wat range of base dps number (with LS roll n socket ofc) is considered good.
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post Jan 8 2013, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jan 8 2013, 01:43 PM)
It is great except that my WKL no LS/LoH, if the situation gets nasty (RD, 2-3 fire elites) I will have to swap out my WKL for a rare that gives me another 2.9%LS+700LoH.
Ghom+raka pack definitely had to use the rare. the other 2 packs can stick with WKL+BS
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Kakaka..ini classic "exploit" the sweeping wind snapshot ni...lulz
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post Jan 8 2013, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Jan 8 2013, 01:46 PM)
WKL dps range generally lower right?
roughly at wat range of base dps number (with LS roll n socket ofc) is considered good.
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Actually WKL DPS is not really important, what is important is the 6/25 aflix. Because what you are aiming for in WKL is the bonus..not the pure DPS (of course higher DPS is better but not worth the extra premium). But as a bench mark a 800++ OS + LS WKL is good liao. WKL cannot roll more than 1k, due to the +damage cap at 40%. You can get it at 1k above, but have to roll IAS which is a wasted roll.

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