i recommend Singapore NUS with tution grant

UTM and UM is out for me. Conducted half english and malay as i do not not understand malay. LKW is out too cause of bad management and low quality with high fees..

Melbourne university and british unver. is out cause of financial problems..too expensive
not yet got my PR and not an EU student

Left for me is NUS

This post has been edited by webartix: Dec 1 2006, 06:45 AM

excuse me, u cannot just simply walk in n enrol to study in NUS. they are not like Australian or NZ unis where they take in international students.

U have to b a Singaporean before you can apply for NUS. If ur a Malaysian who wants to study at NUS, your only way is through JPA scholarships or ASEAN scholarships.

By da way, FYI NUS architecture degree is not accredited wif part 1 and 2 exemption by PAM and LAM in Msia.

But u still can be an architect though. A design advisor, associate but not a legally practising architect. For that u need to take Part 1,2 and 3 exams.

NUS can be entered via STPM, provided u scored flats in all the subjects u hv taken. Some ex-STPM students from my scul are now studying in NUS.

You guys ought to know that PAM examinations...,part1-3 are becoming really hard to pass.....

i dunno about UM, but UTM have already started taking international students. the courses are conducted 100% in english, while exams, assignments, reports and theses are conducted in the language preferred by the students (malay by default).

still alot maa..10k per month...

i forgot which unis got international student, last time i saw at keyTAR..

that would be LUCT. they ALWAYS have international students.

i'm taking diploma in architecture course at taylor's pj. we have international classmates too.

where can i find part-time job/internship/work experience for architecture undergraduates? 1st year student..

i`m not Architect student but my job is dealing with Architects "_"

be prepared to be used like a slave.

Most firms expect first year students not to know anything at all about architecture so u'll probably b doing plan colouring and some other office boy works at most.

How long is your holiday? Dun bother if its less than 3 months.

Do a search at PAM website to look for details of architect firms. Email or write to them bout ur intention. Then wait for their reply.

can i take part time job in architecture firms after my STPM exam? cos i'm very interested in architecture...u know it... i want to learn more. get some insight into an architect's life. wat job could i get in an architecture firm (will they employ me for part-time at first place?)? and wat wud be the salary? can describe the jobs offered in detail? i think maybe work till my uni starts la. btw, how many u guys out there hv worked part-time in archi firms? watd did u guys do?

This post has been edited by europology: Dec 3 2006, 03:33 PM

a partimer salary will be 700 - 800 for beginner with some knowledge dealing architectural works...

This post has been edited by victorboy: Dec 3 2006, 03:37 PM

anything above 500 wud satisfy me. btw, isit tough and hard as part time workers? did they gv u a hell lot jobs (more like an office boy doing unnecessary jobs)?

do you have the knowledge regards autocad?
they prefer to employ people who know autocad and with arhcitectural knowledges such as, reading the drawings.

it is hard to get into the firm without those knowledge,
maybe you can ask anyone who working in some firm and drag you in...
as a draughtmanship trainee...

you may try to apply as draughtperson, preparing drawings for submission and construction.

This post has been edited by victorboy: Dec 3 2006, 03:48 PM

sounds hard to get in, cos i'm jz having my STPM la.

yah, it's very hard unless, you are lucky...
but you can use your STPM certificate and try to apply the job.
not sure whether you can bring your forecast result for the interview session or not, it is recommended earn your diploma/degree first then only seek for th job

it depends. if u have an uncle or a friend of ur parents would be great. usually architects prefer not to take the "uninitiated" (term we give to those who never studied design) unless they can get something out of it. my father's friend used to gila2 show me everything about architecture (after my SPM), but i found out eventually he was trying to get a project out of my dad lol.

anyways, for the uninitiated, most u'll do is help to colour drawings (if they still do things manually). one that i did was colouring blueprints. i hated it. blueprints smell like piss! and somebody has to do it!

but here's the thing: u need to be able to READ drawings. not look at them. but READ. i know, it's hard to explain, but architects READ drawings. ur ability to pick this skill up (since u're not initiated) will tremendously boost urself in the eyes of the people in the office.

yup u'll most likely be colouring drawings and plans. its a job someone must do for submission purposes so y not u?

ah the smell of armonia laced drawings always tend to make me feel suicidal...

to be frank wif u, try getting some architectural related softwares and toy wif it instead of looking for jobs. try getting familiar wif it or even do a small design wif this softwares.

an early grasp of these softwares will put u ahead of ur colleagues during ur studies esp during first year, where ppl r still groping in da dark while u have a clear advantage.

Softwares worth trying out are AUTOCAD, ILLUSTRATOR, PHOTOSHOP and SKETCHUP. These softwares come wif good Help files and basic tutorial, so you should be able to sweat it out on ur own after us STPM.

Yeah i know this doesnt pay, but hey, if u do well in ur studies next time, guess who'll benefit in da end? you or ur wallet?