Azarimy here is my first year tutor...

Anyways, regarding ur practical at GDP, my fren's experience there is that u wont learn much. There's so many workers n they specialize on a certain aspects. You'll probably b doing some minor work at office waiting for 5pm to come evyday.

Join a smaller firm, like i did. There you'll learn more of evything as it'll b hands on for u. Towards my 4th month of work, my boss gave me 2 bungalow projects to handle, from design to meeting wif a few consultants.

of cos "GDP" would look good in ur portfolio... but if u dun learn much wats da point of practical?

My 2 cents.

Hi,anyone can pls help me!!actually now i'm in my form 5 n waiting for my forecast results.I am so interested in architecture and i plan to futher my studies by taking foundation of architecture in RMIT,melbourne.Is it the right choice for me and as a Malaysian?If i am going to study in australia,i need to spend 6 years time there.I think it will be fun and interesting but it will also be expensive too.I had went to Aused in penang,and get to know how much my parents need to spend it for my fees.At first,my parents had agreed it and told me that they can effort it.But now,after they once more go to Aused,they told me that is it worth it for me to study this course and as i am a girl. I can say that i am quite a independant and tough girl,i can work very hard.But now the problem is my parents seems feel like spending so much money in this course will comfirm me to hv a good payment job in Malaysia or other places all around the world?and how bout the salary for a freshie in Australia?because i am quite hope to stay in AUstralia n work there!any suggestions for me to choice which U is the best or either of them?here is my address> milkyoanna_05@hotmail.com or milkyoanna@gmail.com.pls send me more info and tell me how a 17-year-old girl to make her decision for her future when free!!!I am so worried about my future that i had already make a lot of requestment since form 2.sigh...Thank you!!!

And can i know where is UTM pls?arigato!! urgent.

This post has been edited by Carrielyn: Sep 14 2006, 05:59 PM

-study Architecture in RMIT or University of melbourne or QUT......
-is it an architect who is famous will only get more jobs or more projects? how to be famous,i mean with a good reputation? wat does an architect usually do in the firm?can anyone tell me more specific? cuz my father told me the architects may always need to go to the construction areas and freshies are mostly dont hv much opportunities if work in a firm that there are lots of 'non freshies',i mean experienced architects. will being in architecture field is a 'dark' field that what i mean is for example a freshie's layout is chosen by a guest but not the other old staff architects and will they say that that is their layout to their client and they get the commission?and th freshie still know ntg?i dont really know how to describe hope u guys can understand wat i mean!waiting forward for replies!thanks........

Thanx for the advice, many of my friends also gave the same advices, u're so lucky having firm that let u learn a lot, hmmm...i think i have to change my mind...

Anyway, may I know where did u go for practical training? Are u UTM student? I think I know u, Justin, my group leader during KeyTAR at UPM, driving red BMW and MU fan, rite? haha, I'm the one, Chelsea fan...

This post has been edited by albirri: Sep 15 2006, 03:55 PM

on practical trainings:

yes, big firms wont offer u more experience. they offer u bigger allowances and big name, but wont do much interms of providing what u need to fulfill ur practical training requirements. opting for smaller firms will allow u more experience especially in dealing with clients, suppliers and builders.

my work experience is relatively small, as i'm more involved in academia nowadays. i used to work with arkitek karya budi (KL) as well as zaini dubus richez (KL) back when it was just starting up. good experience from these two offices. btw, ZDR still have that guys-only policy i think hahaha. such a gay club

carrielyn, u can refer to ur thread in the education forum. i've replied quite extensively there. however, on work related issue, here's what i can say here:

being a female architect in design world is quite challenging, but not uncommon. women are as independent as men are nowadays, and they basically can do whatever men does, no doubt. but in the design world, emotion runs high all the time. u will find urself at the receiving end of insulting barks more often than not. lots of viscious people out there who are egoistic and self-centered and will not accept the slightest error.

architects crave for perfection. working for such people is not very healthy for ur heart or emotional well-being. especially when u're juggling between husband, house-stuff, children and what not. i'm not trying to put u off here, but take it as an advise. be prepared for what u're getting urself into.

yeah this is da Justin from UTM. serious? u were in my group? oh gosh i cant remember anybody (such a bad leader huh...). but i think i remember da chelsea fan... wear specs rite. how come ppl always associate me wif my red bimmer leh...

My working experience wasnt for practical actually. I graduate wif Diploma and work for bout 10 months before continuing my degree. I worked at Associated Group Architects/PWWong Architects in Bangsar. By da 6th month of work, my boss gave me another bungalow to handle as my colleague left da firm. gotta say handling 3 bungalows was not fun (clients damn fussy n pushy) but it was good experience

Nice to meet u here again!

ok thanks azarimy!!i will think it twice too...



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i tot this thread oredi lost LOL...

just late update from architect...hehe, too busy with the projects...anyway, good luck for the final projects to all architecture students in LYN

UIA got accreditation ek?

not yet...

so far da only accredited local uni in Msia r UTM, USM, UITM and UM.

Important Information To All Architecture Students and Architect in Malaysia

Last wednesday, our head of dept announced bad and good news to all of is in dept. of arch of IIUM...Result of CAEM Accredetation panel....

Bad news is our part 2 LAM, Bachelor of Architecture (2 years prog) fail to get accredetation and the result make a very drastic changes in current structural studies. That really make our seniors and our batch upset....Our batch that already prepared for practical training have to wait until sem 3 as the practical training was reduced from 6 months time to 3 months time (already dreaming of working in the firm)...and our part 2 will be reviewed again next year (2007)...and my batch will be the super senior at that time and we will work really hard to make it success...

GOOD NEWS....our part 1 LAM, BSc. of Architectural Studies, success in part 1 accredetation review and got blanket accredetation for 3 years starting from my batch (graduate 2006) and my juniors (graduate 2007 & 2008)...

What make me sad is our seniors(graduate 2005 & 2004) who work really hard for this accredetation but they fail to get the accredetation...

p/s to Justin, UTM HOD of architecture, (i can't rememver his name) is one of the panel...hehe, i like the way he's speaking, really cool

This post has been edited by albirri: Oct 6 2006, 11:34 AM

Dr Syed Iskandar? ROFL. Hate his leary and draggy speeches that make no sense til towards the end.

I would much prefer to listen to Dr Tajuddin's talk anytime.

Maybe that time he just given short time to talk...he seems like too 'control'

Yeah, Dr. Tajuddin is the best...I like his speech very much. He so 'brave' in talking...my lecturer said that dr. tajuddin came to her house wearing 'keadilan' shirt and my lecturer is 'Datin' who her husband is parliament member...really cool...

This post has been edited by albirri: Oct 6 2006, 06:39 PM

That is oh-so-typical of Dr Tajuddin. We do have 'Kebebesan Berpolitik' rite... so thats wat Dr Taj does best.

His passion and fiery speeches nvr fail to make you sit up and open ur ears to wat he has to say. Although i must say n he is aware of that as well, ISA is hovering rite above his head.

Just stumbled upon this thread.. didn't know this kind of thread existed here..

I've finished 1st year of my architecture programme at Kolej Bersatu Sarawak and thinking of getting some practical experience since it's my semester break..

I'm still blurred if I should take up practical because it's not really required by my programme (I think so..?).. hope to get some answers in practical experiences..

welcome, read from page 1-7 and u'll find something about practical training.

wakaka...congrats to IIUM archist..finally got accredited eh...

Yeah, we just discuss about it...read it and it's here in this thread, anyway, u're studying at Sarawak? Welcome to LYN architect world...

he loves to fire up departmental meetings or any other academic discussions with political connotations, especially when i'm around, since he knows my strong ties to some political people

first, u need to differentiate between practical training (year out) and working during vacation/holidays. practical training is a requirement for architecture to allow students to have a taste of what's out there, as well as applying all theories that they've learned into practise with supervision from professional architects. practical training is actually syllabus based, and u are required to produce a report of the training (which comes with a log book).

working part time during the holidays is basically ur choice. the experience gained is to add to ur own knowledge and will not be assessed in anyway. it's also a method used by some students to "book" a place to work after they graduate.



firms love to take practical trainees. it reminds most of them of their school years. it also gives them a fresh kid to bully (coz they cant bully their own employee). these kids will join the office, get a load of stuff dumped on their shoulders and expected to perform. some do, some dont. those who do will get offered to work in the firm after they graduate.

my friend even secured a permanent job while training because the partners were so impressed with his abilities. he had his final year goyang kaki bcoz he's being paid RM1600 a month (which is a lot for a student).



so back to ur question: it's up to u. if the course do not require practical training, then it's a matter of choice.



congratulations to UIA by the way.