Hi there, i m asking for my company. My company is going to buy a new computer/desktop in order to run CostX programme which will handle autocad 2011 drawing file for calculations. Its better to get from dell or hp small business deals (as their provide good after sales service whenever the computer is faulty or not running well) If possible, provide 2 build. 1 from those dell or hp big company. Another one from pc shop (viewnet) where i will send the spec to lenovo to get quotation. Budget should be around RM3k. Peripherals like mouse and keyboard is needed

Below are the recomended requirements that they given us
- Microsoft Excel 2007
- Windows 7 64 bit
- Processor i5 750 2.67GHz
- Nvidia 260 GTX
- 4GB ram
- if can get SSD, then its better
- Wheel mouse
- 24"inch LCD (better get LED screen) or if 2 nos of 19 inch monitor, whichever is cheaper
- minimum DPI is 96
- Resolutions
-widescreen monitor (16:9) or (16:10), 1680 x 1050 or higher
- standard monitor (5:4) or (4:3), 1280 x 1024 or higher

This post has been edited by tanalvis: Dec 14 2012, 02:40 PM

Right! In a nut shell tech-noobies like me should stay off OC the processors right?
Will definitely looked up on your suggestions bro!

I suppose they have advisors like in the shops right? Maybe might have to scale down the budget abit if my
parents aren't that happy with the pricing

Normally how long would it take them to assemble all the parts together? Also do i have to worry anything
about the BIOS?

nope, you can always learn to OC and about OC stuff also
but if you want your PC parts to last long, of course avoid OCing
but its subjective though, with good cooling systems, mild OC can last nearly as long as stock CPUs

err.. their advisors are unreliable. cause since theyre running a shop, they might intro parts that are not recommended as they dont want to keep old and obsolete products

as for the time for parts assembling, it depends. if they dont have alot of other jobs, should be fast.

generally, the standard BIOS should be fine. nothing to tweak or change around.

[Budget] 5k

[Purpose] Work, Design, 3D rendering & Entertainment

[Hardware that will be reuse from old rig] Sensonic 21.5" Monitor

[Monitor resolution] 1920 x 1080

[Game or software that use frequently] Autocad (no need for Quadro), Sketchup, Photoshop, Microsoft office, Facebook game.

[Personal Preference Brand] Asus (graphic card) MOBO can accept other brand - Suggestion for good quality PSU

[Location] Kuala Lumpur


Below is my homework after reading through loads of suggestion and research:-

Option A - May be OC in the future
[CPU] i7 3770 or k
[Motherboard] MSI Z77MA-G45 or Gigabyte Z77x-D3H
[GPU] Asus GTX 670
[RAM] Kingston Value 4x8GB DDR3 RAM
[PSU] ENERMAX NAXN 82+ 650w
[Case] Cooler Master 690 II Adv. Casing
[SSD] Intel 330 120 GB
[HDD] WD 1 TB
[Fan] Arctic Cooling F12 PWM Fan x2

Option B - No OC at all
[CPU] i7 3770
[Motherboard] MSI H77MA-G43 or Gigabyte H77M-D3H
[GPU] Asus GTX 670
[RAM] Kingston Value 4x8GB DDR3 RAM
[PSU] ENERMAX NAXN 82+ 650w
[Case] Cooler Master 690 II Adv. Casing
[SSD] Intel 330 120 GB
[HDD] WD 1 TB
[Fan] Arctic Cooling F12 PWM Fan x2

Open for comments and price indication.

Right! Then again what about the warranties? only tied by the vendor itself only right?
I have a list of viewnet's product from here http://www.viewnet.com.my/downloads/viewne...y_pricelist.pdf
so is it safe to say any components not listed in it could be potentially obsolete products?
Now u reminded me of such scam's i'd might be worried up a little

warranties by the brand manufacturers. but you can return the faulty products to the shop for warranty purposes

not really, there are alot of products types available in the pricelist but also not recommended. like the Cooler Master PSUs, not recommended but its being sold at Viewnet.

if you dont trust Viewnet, you can always opt for other shops in this forum. try PM lingloong, zhen^wei, CyntrixTech, yoongkeen etc for help. they have a physical shop too, just not in Lowyat Plaza

Intel G630 RM160
Asrock B75M-DGS RM179
Kingston Value 4GB DDR3 RAM RM55
Gainward GeForce® GTX 650 Ti RM449 from lingloong
WD Blue 500GB RM169
LiteOn DVD Drive RM55
Cooler Master K280 Casing RM129
FSP Hexa 500W PSU RM150
Any 20" LED monitor with DVI RM299+-
Microsoft Wired 600 Keyboard Mouse Combo RM39
Edifier M1335FM 2.1 Speakers RM149
Win 7 Home Premeum 64bit. Retail RM370

Total : RM2200

They are vendors as well? In your opinion it's preferable to perform transactions with them as towards shops in lowyat?

OK thank guys. plan to go this week. Let see how it work out..

can i please know what is important to look for in a gaming rig? whats the difference between i3 i5 and i7?

pretty much similar i guess

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Added on December 14, 2012, 5:58 pmgood GPU with a good CPU

for example
Intel Core i5 + GTX670 = good
Intel Core i3 + HD7970 = bad
Intel Core i7 + HD7770 = bad

i3 is a dual core with Intel Hyper Treading technology, good for casual users who does not need to do powerful CPU processes
i5 is a quad core without Hyper Threading technology, good for not-too-intensive CPU processes
i7 is a quad core with Hyper threading technology, good for CPU intensive processes

anyways, just read up at Ark Intel, theyll provide better information than mine. a simple google will provide a better one too lol

This post has been edited by marfccy: Dec 14 2012, 05:58 PM

You better deal with companys directly rather than asking here, if you want guideline

- Microsoft Office (YES)
- Windows 7 64 bit (YES)
- Processor i5 3rd Gen such as i5 3450,i5 3470 or better
- Nvidia GC lowest rank
- 4GB ram or more
- SSD
- Wheel mouse
- 24"inch LCD (better get LED screen)

[Budget]
rm2.3k

[Purpose]
gaming/ net surfing / multitasking

[Hardware that will be reuse from old rig]
no~

[Monitor resolution]
19" will upgrade to 23" so just gv me the best gpu i can get with this budget~

[Game or software that use frequently]
high graphic games

[Personal Preference Brand]
cpu > intel
gpu > nvidia / amd depend which will perform better and what i can get with this budget~
others > nvm~ anything will do~

[Location]
KL~

rm 2.3k only for the rig~
need this urgent ~ THX fro helping!!!

This post has been edited by 1qaz1qaz: Dec 14 2012, 11:37 PM

Take option B..better.


Intel Core i3 3220
MSI B75MA-G43
Corsair 1333 ram 4GB x2
MSI HD7870 TF III
Enermax NAXN 550w
WD Blue 500GB HDD
Corsair 200R case
LiteOn 22x DVDRW

Total - RM +/- 2300. Garage Sales seller.

possible getting i5?? and better gpu??

IMHO the build is solid already for your budget, unless you add more $$$, it is not possible to up another spec without sacrificing other components

how about go up to rm2.5k??

Hey guys, would like to seek some advices/opinions here. My friend is asking me to suggest a rig to him for work, entertainment and some light gaming. Below are the specs that i have in mind base on Viewnet's price list.

CPU: i5 3470 - RM564 / i3 3220 - RM349
Motherboard: Gigabyte B75M-D3V - RM224
Memory: Kingston DDR3 4GB - RM60
GPU: Sapphire 6850 1GB - RM349 / Sapphire 7770 1GB - RM399
Hardi Disk: Western Digital Blue 1TB - RM214
PSU: Silverstone Strider 500W - RM219
Optical Drive: Liteon - RM60
Casing: Cooler Master range - budget RM150
Monitor: Dell ST2320L - RM469
Input Devices: MS Wireless Desktop - RM85

Total: RM2394 (i5) / RM2179 (i3)

Is this built okay? Here's some of my concerns.
(i) Is the i3 3220 sufficient for normal work usage, cause he may be using applications like autocad and photoshop, or the i5 is the way to go?
(ii) On GPU, if just for light gaming purposes, should I just stick with the old generation 6850 or the newer 7770? Based on benchmarks the 6850 is generally better than the 7770 and the price is lower as well. Is the 6850 a good choice here?
(iii) Is there any cheaper PSU recommendations based on Viewnet's price list with relative good performance?

Would like to keep the price as low as possible as well, if possible within RM2.4k. Comments/advices are appreciated. Thanks.

This post has been edited by @udio_jr: Dec 15 2012, 09:54 AM

Then you can take i5 3470 RM570+-

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Added on December 15, 2012, 10:23 amCan replace several part; mobo MSI B75MA-P45 RM229 (more RAM slot), PSU fsp hexa 500w RM150, Monitor LG IPS224T RM419. i5 should handle future work as well.

This post has been edited by Hilmax: Dec 15 2012, 10:23 AM

Thanks for the suggestions, msi should be the better choice. On the psu, is it available in viewnet? Didn't saw it in the price list.