Hey guys, just wanna find out some info in here. I called tnb earlier in regards to plasma tv electricity as its stated behind the tv 350w. They said 350w is equal to 3.5kwh (kilowatt-hour). So according to their calculation, 3.5kwh per minute the cost is $0.76cents and thats what it says in tnb website calculator also. So the tv consumes 76cents per minute?

350w = 0.35kw

3 decimal point

cannot beat tnb calculation, u bring to court oso cannot win lar

buy crt 50" better

Nice logic u have there. CRT consume more power than LCD

This.

Who did you speak to on the phone? Lol

So guys, what could be the max amount for the tv itself for a month? Lets says max 8 hours usage a day? Can anyone calculate for me? Me a bit poor in calculation

TNB careline staff on the billing category

dafug, where got count per minute?
kwh is kilo watt per hour

This post has been edited by rockpoper: Nov 23 2012, 12:54 PM

Dafuq? TNB people said its per minute Wrong choice to go n ask them.

This post has been edited by deejay_krish: Nov 23 2012, 12:56 PM

Lol, 350W is 350 J/s

Convert to kW is 0.35 kW. So in 1 hour, your tv consumes 0.35 kWh

1 day use 8 hours = 2.8 kWh.

21.8 sen / kWh

so 1 day, your tv consume 61 sen

Remember, that is your tv maximum rated draw power. It does not necessary draw full 350W all the time.



This post has been edited by 779364: Nov 23 2012, 12:59 PM

Thanks bro

wow...impressive which uni u came from??

My bill every month is around 300 to 400. 1 plasma tv, 1 led tv (only watch at night after come back from work), 1 air cond running 5 hours max every night, 1 fridge, 1 washing machine and normal lights. TNB people come and check meter, say everything is fine. Dafuq? Something is wrong somewhere.

This post has been edited by deejay_krish: Nov 23 2012, 01:02 PM

I want to ask as the question might related to the topic,

Is it legal for TNB to assume my usage based on previous bills for months?

And after that, they put all the extra charges from those months into one bills.

This makes my bill shoot up really high due to different rate for high usage.

*They dont even come to my house to get the reading in those months

This post has been edited by marche: Nov 23 2012, 01:03 PM

Harvard uni

UTAR Setapak. Chemical Eng Working in OnG refinery

This post has been edited by 779364: Nov 23 2012, 01:04 PM

RM 300-400 is very expensive.
You sure nobody stealing electricity?

They've been doing that for a long time already la.
Nothing new.

Woah.. Got contact? Can help a /k/tard out?

Ayam wanna apply for industrial training. ME final year student here.

No lah bro, wiring all ok, no stealing nothing.

Very high bill. How many people in the house?

My 1 is RM70. More gadget than you state here.

It's been awhile since I looked at a bill, lol.
How many total kwh do you use a month?

I just small fry in process department. No connection with HR ppl

And FYI, very hard to get industrial training with those company unless your uni got good cable with the HR like UTP with Petronas.

If interested to work in OnG, try kencana fabrication, or those subcontractors for OnG. They are more willing to hire interns

This post has been edited by 779364: Nov 23 2012, 01:09 PM

My bill RM50~60 a month
No aircond, only use fan, TV 8 hours, air filter 24 hours, computer 24 hours, 1 fridge, 1 washing machine, and normal lightings only

You better check ur aircond usage

aiyooo aneee...kam i show u

the POWER is 0.35kW. the ENERGY consumed by the tv in 1 HOUR is equal to 0.35kWh (kilowatt-hour).

tariff rate for 1kWh is 21.8 cent.

so, in 1 hour, the electricity for your tv will be 21.8 x 0.35 = 7.63 cent.


btw, the tv will only use 350W when it is showing bright color/ high sound volume etc etc, which is just for a fraction of time. obviously, dark/black pictures will use less power.

Still high. Without aircon, should be more lower.

Lol I thought of applying to Sapura and Aker.

I'm not living at home alone like you la = =

Last time I rent house in Seri Kembangan, 3 laptops, modem, fridge, lights, fans on 24/7.

Tapi bil always subsidized.
1 year stayed there, never pair bil air or bil api

I think the culprit must be the aircond

It stated in the bill 923kwh


Yes air cond must be the culprit. What do u think of inverter airconds? Should i sell off mine and get the inverter aircond instead?

its 0.76cents /hour lar

923kWh? Dafuq so high.

yes, inverter air cond uses lesser electricity, but the installation cost a bomb

Your air cond zaman batu wan is it?
Get aircond with inverter. Capital will be expensive, but you'll save money in the long run.

its actually 7.6cents/hour. refer to calculation above

I noticed including installation for 1.5hp inverter model is around 1500. Not much difference i see the price.

I also not living alone lah.

erh...max. also <300 for installation..inverter aircon 1.5hp RM1.5k ? around that figure....but it do save a lot electricity !

yeah..its not that expensive also

I also have aircon. 1.5hp running everyday 8hr.

A lot as in hmmm half?

You using digital or analog meter?
Ada buat hotwiring?

Yes, I encountered recently like you. My TNB bill was = RM5xx WTF!!! i never encountered that high zzzzz

then after I paid that, it came another bill for nov= when nov now even haven't end? bill was 200+ WTH IS WRONG!!! with tnb.

I think my bill will be lesser if no air cond. I think around 100 plus

No guarantee with TNB

Jangan tipu, ur profile picture is batman

If the price still shoots high without aircond, then better file a lawsuit against tnb then as they said the meter is fine..........They definitely played with the readin gof the meter to make the bill show high value

This post has been edited by deejay_krish: Nov 23 2012, 01:28 PM

Your meter, digital or analog?

I'm reporting you to TNB,
if caught you curi elektrik, I will get reward

Digital.

If your aircon is a non-inverter 1.5hp, then RM300 to RM400 bill should be normal.

That's way too high for a few hours of usage a day.

Try service your air-cond and how old is your fridge ??

the issue with analog vs digital meter is. analog meter is easily tempered and the accuracy degrades over time. so for some user, their low bill is caused by the inaccuracy of the meter itself.

digital meter on the other hand is really accurate so what you use is what you pay, it wont be "discounted" by the inaccuracy of the analog meter.

the thing is, it'd be good if tnb could hire 3rd party to do meter calibration so that both sides can be satisfied once and for all

Fridge is only 2 years old and its quite new. Air cond serviced every 6 months.

you forgot to add computer into consideration...

Digital meter also can tamper

Wtf this was taught in kemahiran hidup la dey

Inverter air-cond will save tnb bill but will kill you when do servicing as it use expansive gas.

TS computer 4 way SLI GTX 680 with dual i7 CPU and 16 CRT monitors 32 inch

This post has been edited by rockpoper: Nov 23 2012, 01:37 PM

do tell us after u pay up the penalty and come out from jail...LOL

Never said I tampered mine.
Even if I wanted to, I cannot!


Stupid condo design put meters of all units at one particular section of the floor.

not as easy as analog. analog orang xsekolah pn boleh buat

for aircond, its unwise to switch in on and off all the time. mone energy is needed to remove the heat from a place compared to energy needed to mantain the temperature. also, your aircond will consume more energy during hot days because the difference in temperature ( between the temp that you want and the ambiance temp) will be greater.


for fridge, it is unefficient if your fridge is mostly empty. also, try to minimize the amount u spend opening the fridge because heat will get into the fridge, energy is needed to remove it. remember, more energy is needed to remove heat compared to energy needed to maintain the temperature.

also, remember to cool down your food items before putting it into the fridge.

350W is rated maximum usage

I bought kill-a-watt from a LYN seller (costs RM 90) , so I decided to plug in on my main PC (as seen in spec) and my macbook pro

Main PC (650W PSU)
Plugged in n turned off (Wake On Lan Turned On) = 2W
Plugged in n turned off (wake on lan turned off/ERP) = 0.1W , nearly 0W
Windows is booting up = 250W
Idle in Desktop = 195W-220W
Playing Games/Rendering/Serious CPU usage = 300-380W
Standby = 4W

Laptop (85W adapter)
Plugged In and PC is sleep/turned off = 0.0W (Fully Charged)
Plugged in and PC is sleep/trned off = 25W (Charging)
Idle in Desktop = 30W (fully charged)
Idle in Desktop = 50-68W (charging)

There you go , those are some rough estimates. Will try to measure my LCD TV later to know about its power consumption as well. If you are really paranoid about how many Watts is your device is using and stuff , get kill-a-watt , pretty nifty device

I think the 5-hour max per day is an under-estimation.

Analog and no hanky panky.

Does a profile show I m alone? I don't no.

You are welcome. Report jgn tak report.

i am curious , why do you want to hack it ?

nice recommendation, i never know these comes in handy & useful just for rm90..

if u r using new digital meter the price is like that one my house set up is = to you plus 4 computer that run avg 8 h per day

my house bill is around 450+-

the only thing u can do to cut down e bill is replace the old less efficient electric appllicant like a/c and fridge to new with better energy saving

btw 0.21 is only for first 200kwh 0ver 200kwh the price will go higher and higher

Hack it? My bill already maintain very low. Why I still need to hack the meter? I don't do hacking. I believe in saving way.

can tumpang tered.?
bill usually rm80- rm100.
i have one laptop (16hrs on), one pc (20hrs on), one crt 29inch tv (20hrs on), astro decoder (20hrs on), two lights, NO aircond, one fridge (24hrs).

is that normal for rm80 - rm100? all numbers are approximate only.

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Added on November 23, 2012, 2:00 pmoh and from the bill, the rates are different for so and so usage, then skyrocket to another so so usage. plus got extra charge somemore, the tenaga boleh guna wat i also dunno. around rm2.

This post has been edited by joeboto: Nov 23 2012, 02:00 PM

At the high side.

sry lorr i no give FK to KH..i get B in PMR anyway

been there done that but this is a very dangerous decision...

kecik2 tanak jadi electrical engineer....dah besar bukak thread bodoh di /k

thats normal . Anyway my electricity usage went up ever since the switch to digital metre , it used to be RM 30-RM 50 less , now it seems to be counting little bit more.

My electrical bill only RM 40-50 per month with about 500L fidge(Inverter), 1 hp Air corn (Inverter) using only 6 hour daily with setting tempeture 25 celcius, all saving energy light, washing machine and other. Normal use after office hour and some time weekend go to my mother house. 4 people in the house. Digital TNB meter. so electricity usage always depend on our attitude when using electricity.

U just a bit brah, some people theres a difference of 100 to 300 bucks. Thats a whopping lot. Many claims this new meter is very sensitive. It sucks up like nobodies business.

totally wrong~i have the same thing u have there minus plasma tv but my air cond everyday 8 -10 hours max(i hp with temperature set to 25).i pay only rm150-rm170~

You are a good example of electricity saving.

I guess from now on i have to on my air cond from temperature 25 and nothing below. 18 is dangerous. And my air cond always on minimum fan, the lowest, never run at full blast before.

Set it to auto run and temp 25c. Guarantee your next mth bill reduce.

ya always set my ac temp to 24-25 whatever who change it

yup setting temp at 25 is the simplest way to save electricity since i have read somewhere that reducing ac temp 1 celcius will increase electricity usage 10-30%. so lower the ac temp u can expect higher electricity bill.