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Gecko
post Nov 26 2012, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(untong @ Nov 26 2012, 09:17 PM)
yea.. just tried out the BBV with 5% heal... it is just not a great skill..
the AOE sux... 5% hp regen also not enuf most of the time...

so far only BBV with mana regen is nice for solo
and BBV with 30% dmg is nice for co-op..
but still the AOE..haiz

btw most of the time hex is better...
but sometimes i feel hexed mob wont kena some of my zombie bears(their size become so small!?) or the zombie bears just dont critical on hexed mob.. not sure though~
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They do crit but its not displayed ... i checked on ZK health b4 he was hexed and after he was hexed + spammed few Bears ... big drop in ZK's health ... same thing with RoT's crits are still displayed in white not yellow.

This post has been edited by Gecko: Nov 26 2012, 09:32 PM
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post Nov 27 2012, 12:24 AM

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made 2 crappy hellring tonight.. argh~!!!
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post Nov 27 2012, 02:40 AM

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QUOTE(StratOS @ Nov 27 2012, 12:24 AM)
made 2 crappy hellring tonight.. argh~!!!
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i share the pain bro sad.gif did 4 x 2-person (6 IMs each) ubers @ mp7 and crafted 3 HF rings ... all crap. To date hv crafted almost 50 HF rings, none had crit chance (with the exception of str hf ring for my barb, a toon i seldom play) ... grrrrrr
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post Nov 27 2012, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(Gecko @ Nov 26 2012, 07:55 PM)
Currently upgrading my Zuni set to suit my 2-h build (ditching ToTD & getting pickup radius on other gears). If there's any WD out there just hit 60 (or anybody starting a new WD) interested in getting a complete Zuni set + accompanying gears & weapons.. i am selling mine at a reasonable price.

Package includes:
- Complete zuni set (all 5 items)
- Mojos: ToTD & Ukhapian Serpent
- Blackthorne Pant & Belt, Strongarm bracers, Rare gloves (intel/vita/cd/cc), Vile Ward shoulders
- Jewelry: Tal ammy + rare rings
- Weapons: Manajuma- carving knife, Echoing Fury, Sun Keeper (mf wpn), Last Breath, Gidbinn & a rare open socket ceremonial knife .. might throw in intel Skorn (if i can get a replacement 1st)
- Bonus item: SoJ with +crit chance% of Acid Rain.

Please let me know if there's any interested party for the package & i will put up a screenshot of the items

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Interested in the Zuni Vision (if got CC) and Pox (if got CC), ToTD, Tal Ammy, and all the weapon...

Can see see? Please dont use imageshack I cant open it from office lol...

Need upgrade my weapon >< if you can view my char, see if any suitable weapon from your collection to replace it or not XD
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post Nov 27 2012, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(sandvillage @ Nov 27 2012, 09:59 AM)
Interested in the Zuni Vision (if got CC) and Pox (if got CC), ToTD, Tal Ammy, and all the weapon...

Can see see? Please dont use imageshack I cant open it from office lol...

Need upgrade my weapon >< if you can view my char, see if any suitable weapon from your collection to replace it or not XD
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Both Vision & Pox dont have CC .. lolz (trying to get those with CC once hv sufficient budget tongue.gif )
The tal ammy only have high CD so i think ur current rare ammy with CC is better.
Weapon wise, if u still want LS on it only one of my Echoing Fury fits ur criteria 1093 dps, 154 intel, 184 vita, 2.8% LS (no CD @ OS so not sure it will increase ur dps or not) another weapon that i'm sure will increase ur dps is a rare sword i just found but dont hv LS: 932 dps, 1.4 aps, "black" wpn, 136 intel, 81% CD & OS).
Will try find some time to upload the pics to my photobucket account (my stash and all mules are almost full.. too lazy to sort things out)
ToTD: 2 vry low avg dmg (prolly give these away FOC), 1 with average avg dmg & the one i am using on my 1h + mojo setup would be the best (but dunno yet want to let go or not .. hv to wait till i can get at least +20 pickup radius on other gears)

Added the pics of the 2 weapons i mentioned above:

LS EF
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Rare Sword
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This post has been edited by Gecko: Nov 27 2012, 10:39 AM
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post Nov 27 2012, 10:32 AM

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I'm interested in Vile Ward and gloves. Please post pic ya
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post Nov 27 2012, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(whyseej00 @ Nov 27 2012, 10:32 AM)
I'm interested in Vile Ward and gloves. Please post pic ya
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The Vile Ward i still hv to wait for a bid on replacement Ward ends (will update soon with pic)

Gloves got a few .. dunno if it'll be an upgrade to ur current glove or not.

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post Nov 27 2012, 11:12 AM

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@Gecko

Maybe you should post up all the items that are available haha. Some of the gloves helps me increase in DPS but drop 3k life @@
Gecko
post Nov 27 2012, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(whyseej00 @ Nov 27 2012, 11:12 AM)
@Gecko

Maybe you should post up all the items that are available haha. Some of the gloves helps me increase in DPS but drop 3k life @@
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Me too lazy to even organise my stash .. haha. I login and level my paragon @ farm keys only .. when no more place to put item only i hv to force myself to transfer items.
Anyways i know its hard to balance between DPS & EHP on gloves. My current gloves hv mediocre intel/vita/AR but i keep using it bcos i need the pickup radius when i dont use ToTD. Usually most ppl get the most dps out of gloves and get vita/AR on other gears. So high intel (200 n above) + ias (not so sure useful for WD) + CD (50% n above) + CC (9-10%) should be a BiS gloves.

Btw i see from ur gear u r using Manajuma Carving Knife... imho to get most dps increase from the +%elemtal dmg of Zuni Boots & Tal Ammy u shud use a "black" wpn. For Manajuma the 10% increase in dmg will only be applied to the base dmg but not the Poison Damage.

This post has been edited by Gecko: Nov 27 2012, 11:30 AM
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post Nov 27 2012, 12:04 PM

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hi all,

para 62 wd reporting in:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/seeseebee-1541/

currently working on my paragon level, still farms and keep 1-2 infernal machine in stash for the occasional uber boss runs with friends.

can tank mp7 uber boss (1 only, not both).

looking for wd with good dps to team up and farm mp7 act3 for better gears.
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post Nov 27 2012, 01:24 PM

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I could do mp7 but its painstakingly slow especially when faced with xtra health/sheilding RD packs. Until i get my hands on a LS Skorn i'll just keep farming items on mp3-4 with 400+% MF.
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post Nov 27 2012, 01:46 PM

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ok replacing my zunimassa's pox with skull grasp for farming purpose... hope really help...

int 137
ias 7%
loh 219
armor 203
cd 21%
cc of AR 5%
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post Nov 27 2012, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(HenryLow @ Nov 27 2012, 01:46 PM)
ok replacing my zunimassa's pox with skull grasp for farming purpose... hope really help...

int 137
ias 7%
loh 219
armor 203
cd 21%
cc of AR 5%
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Nice choice thumbup.gif on low lvl farming mana regen from full zuni set not that important ... more dmg = faster farming ... mana can easily be managed from skills e.g CoL + Sac/Pride combo.

Go get Giyua with 6% CC + 5-7% CC to AR lor Henry ... see many yellow numbers on mobs lolz. Use only 2 Zuni set enuff wor .. Giyua give AR so no need AR from 3 set bonus.

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post Nov 27 2012, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(Gecko @ Nov 27 2012, 10:25 AM)
Both Vision & Pox dont have CC .. lolz (trying to get those with CC once hv sufficient budget  tongue.gif )
The tal ammy only have high CD so i think ur current rare ammy with CC is better.
Weapon wise, if u still want LS on it only one of my Echoing Fury fits ur criteria 1093 dps, 154 intel, 184 vita, 2.8% LS (no CD @ OS so not sure it will increase ur dps or not) another weapon that i'm sure will increase ur dps is a rare sword i just found but dont hv LS: 932 dps, 1.4 aps, "black" wpn, 136 intel, 81% CD & OS).
Will try find some time to upload the pics to my photobucket account (my stash and all mules are almost full.. too lazy to sort things out)
ToTD: 2 vry low avg dmg (prolly give these away FOC), 1 with average avg dmg & the one i am using on my 1h + mojo setup would be the best (but dunno yet want to let go or not .. hv to wait till i can get at least +20 pickup radius on other gears)

Added the pics of the 2 weapons i mentioned above:

LS EF
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Rare Sword
user posted image
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See if I on tonight I pm you haha....

Show me the weapon then I check if got increase brape DPS haha...

Will try add you and send you a PM tonight ^^
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post Nov 27 2012, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(Gecko @ Nov 27 2012, 01:49 PM)
Nice choice  thumbup.gif  on low lvl farming mana regen from full zuni set not that important ... more dmg = faster farming ... mana can easily be managed from skills e.g CoL + Sac/Pride combo.

Go get Giyua with 6% CC + 5-7% CC to AR lor Henry ... see many yellow numbers on mobs lolz. Use only 2 Zuni set enuff wor .. Giyua give AR so no need AR from 3 set bonus.
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thanks bro...

for giyua... no good deal yet ler... cc 6 all 40m above... sad la...

btw, i need a SoJ BvE 28~30 with Bears 8~10 or RoT 10~12, for Key and Uber use...

then only start for upgrade my weapon... tired man...

This post has been edited by HenryLow: Nov 27 2012, 02:11 PM
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post Nov 27 2012, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(Gecko @ Nov 27 2012, 10:25 AM)
Both Vision & Pox dont have CC .. lolz (trying to get those with CC once hv sufficient budget  tongue.gif )
The tal ammy only have high CD so i think ur current rare ammy with CC is better.
Weapon wise, if u still want LS on it only one of my Echoing Fury fits ur criteria 1093 dps, 154 intel, 184 vita, 2.8% LS (no CD @ OS so not sure it will increase ur dps or not) another weapon that i'm sure will increase ur dps is a rare sword i just found but dont hv LS: 932 dps, 1.4 aps, "black" wpn, 136 intel, 81% CD & OS).
Will try find some time to upload the pics to my photobucket account (my stash and all mules are almost full.. too lazy to sort things out)
ToTD: 2 vry low avg dmg (prolly give these away FOC), 1 with average avg dmg & the one i am using on my 1h + mojo setup would be the best (but dunno yet want to let go or not .. hv to wait till i can get at least +20 pickup radius on other gears)

Added the pics of the 2 weapons i mentioned above:

LS EF
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Rare Sword
user posted image
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hmm nice sword.....

help me gear check also http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Lazarea...81/hero/1607390
should i aim for a new amulet 1st or a better weapon? my weapon with 300+ int darn hard to find replacement sial... if wan need spend 20 to 30m for a meager 4 to 5k dps.... not worth it imo.... somemore i just came back only left that much of money *sigh*

and yest my fren bring me go mp6 IM~ i can say all it is quite fun except for the siegebreaker part... next time i think i will go and cc the zoltun rather than sending the mage. I cant handle the reflect dmg lol


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post Nov 27 2012, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(HenryLow @ Nov 27 2012, 02:10 PM)
thanks bro...

for giyua... no good deal yet ler... cc 6 all 40m above... sad la...

btw, i need a SoJ BvE 28~30 with Bears 8~10 or RoT 10~12, for Key and Uber use...

then only start for upgrade my weapon... tired man...
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"Situational" gears are much cheaper and handy to have so dat u can can swap to get best setup performing certain tasks i.e speed farming, ubers etc.
Weapon is more of a long term investment so its advisable to save up and buy a good weapon that will last u a long time.
Keep checking AH everyday, i'm sure a cheap Giyua will pop up (i was lucky to get mine at a bargain)
SoJ with reduced Bears will be costly from what ive browsed in AH ... so many WD using Bears. If im not mistaken u can get reduced Bears roll on Mara ammy & Giyua too so u might want to look into that.

QUOTE(renishi @ Nov 27 2012, 02:30 PM)
hmm nice sword.....

help me gear check also http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Lazarea...81/hero/1607390
should i aim for a new amulet 1st or a better weapon? my weapon with 300+ int darn hard to find replacement sial... if wan need spend 20 to 30m for a meager 4 to 5k dps.... not worth it imo.... somemore i just came back only left that much of money *sigh*

and yest my fren bring me go mp6 IM~ i can say all it is quite fun except for the siegebreaker part... next time i think i will go and cc the zoltun rather than sending the mage. I cant handle the reflect dmg lol
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Upgrading ur ammy would be cheaper than upgrading wpn unless ur looking for a trifecta ammy. Here is something to consider: WD doesnt benefit much from CC (the roll which can make any items very expensive) unless you already stack up a high CD (obviously from a wpn with high base roll CD + open socket).. we dont have any skill that proc from crits like Barbs, DH, Wiz do. What WD do hv is skills for survivability and attacks that procs %to & LoH. While Wiz chain combo from crits, WD can chain combo from reduced CD of GI and very high intel boost from GF & SH. To get the most dps boost at a cheaper price, look for high avg dmg instead.. some LoH would add survivability and ofc high intel roll (try find a good Ouroboros ammy ..stats like the one StratOS is using ... mine is kinda low cos i am a cheapskate .. haha). It should be cheaper than a rare ammy with similar stats.
Yeah the sword is not bad since its a "black" wpn .. i only wish it had a LoH roll. Alrdy hv few ppl interested in it.

This post has been edited by Gecko: Nov 27 2012, 03:50 PM
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post Nov 27 2012, 04:11 PM

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Thx, and yes the benefit from cc is getting less and less if it is not balance with the CD... which is why i have been pumping CD and i dont think i will be pumping much ias, i dont think it is good for my build as i dont do splinter.

Mind me but what is trifecta? ias, cc and cd??

talking about loh, iinm last time the bear loh is capped at 7% right? i dont even know hw to calculate it now lol. The bonus from my blackthorn is too awesome to be changed into inna's as there is 0 vit there @@

As for now, i am also a cheapskate~ i have been trying my best to upgrade my gears with more int while looking for a solution
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Thx, and yes the benefit from cc is getting less and less if it is not balance with the CD... which is why i have been pumping CD and i dont think i will be pumping much ias, i dont think it is good for my build as i dont do splinter.

Mind me but what is trifecta? ias, cc and cd??

talking about loh, iinm last time the bear loh is capped at 7% right? i dont even know hw to calculate it now lol. The bonus from my blackthorn is too awesome to be changed into inna's as there is 0 vit there @@

As for now, i am also a cheapskate~ i have been trying my best to upgrade my gears with more int while looking for a solution
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IAS = INCREASE ATTACK SPEED
CC = CRITICAL HIT CHANCE, also known as CHC
CD = CRITICAL HIT DAMAGE, also known as CHD

trifecta = all 3 of the above
bifecta = any 2 of the above
quadfactra = all 3 of the above + (all resist/LoH/min-max damage)

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Nov 27 2012, 04:25 PM)
IAS = INCREASE ATTACK SPEED
CC = CRITICAL HIT CHANCE, also known as CHC
CD = CRITICAL HIT DAMAGE, also known as CHD

trifecta = all 3 of the above
bifecta = any 2 of the above
quadfactra = all 3 of the above + (all resist/LoH/min-max damage)
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bro how bout my amulet???

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