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post Jan 12 2013, 01:52 PM

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Can try this site for Proctor build

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7004696095


TIPS FOR A FINE SEARCH ON AH

There is a very well kept secret about how to display only the ring that you are interested in : the jordan stone or the skull grasp with ZD CD reduction.
Just do NOT select 'ring' as a sub category of armor. Then select the affix about ZD CD reduction. Choose legendary as the type of item, then select another class than WD (to take out any voodoo helmet). This will net you only the rings or amulets that you are looking for.
Finally if you want only a skull grasp or a jordan stone, you may select a very particular affix that defines each of them... But I'll let you figure this one out smile.gif


I tried selecting another class, it doesn't work but the rest worked perfectly:

- Stone of Jordan
Search bonus vs elite + skill that you want

- Mara Kaleidoscope
Search str, dex, int + skill that you want

- Skull grasp
Search ias, LoH + skill that you want

- Visage of Giyua
Search 170 int, has sockets, AR + skill that you want

Hope that helps all WD players here!

This post has been edited by whyseej00: Jan 12 2013, 03:43 PM
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post Jan 13 2013, 02:56 AM

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QUOTE(whyseej00 @ Jan 12 2013, 01:52 PM)
Can try this site for Proctor build

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7004696095
TIPS FOR A FINE SEARCH ON AH

There is a very well kept secret about how to display only the ring that you are interested in : the jordan stone or the skull grasp with ZD CD reduction.
Just do NOT select 'ring' as a sub category of armor. Then select the affix about ZD CD reduction. Choose legendary as the type of item, then select another class than WD (to take out any voodoo helmet). This will net you only the rings or amulets that you are looking for.
Finally if you want only a skull grasp or a jordan stone, you may select a very particular affix that defines each of them... But I'll let you figure this one out smile.gif
I tried selecting another class, it doesn't work but the rest worked perfectly:

- Stone of Jordan
Search bonus vs elite + skill that you want

- Mara Kaleidoscope
Search str, dex, int + skill that you want

- Skull grasp
Search ias, LoH + skill that you want

- Visage of Giyua
Search 170 int, has sockets, AR + skill that you want

Hope that helps all WD players here!
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I know how to search for these items. The problem is the gold i have.
The ZD CD SoJ is priced at few hundred millions. This is only one piece of gear.

Your DPS will drop drastically. You many need to replace many gears to push up DPS & even IAS.
ZD build is going to cost billions of gold. sweat.gif

Honestly speaking, if you don't have issue with spending billions on gears, ZD WD is very very good in WD party.
Excellent supportive player in WD party.
1) Keep supplying life & mana (with GF passive). Meaning you can perma-spam your bears.
2) RD doesn't hurt as much when you are consistently healed by health globes.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Jan 13 2013, 04:55 AM
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post Jan 13 2013, 08:07 PM

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anyone here do gearing service? for wd
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post Jan 14 2013, 05:25 AM

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QUOTE(jstndng @ Jan 13 2013, 08:07 PM)
anyone here do gearing service? for wd
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what do u mean by "gearing service" actually?
tips/suggestion on how to gear wd?
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post Jan 14 2013, 08:01 AM

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QUOTE(Gecko @ Jan 14 2013, 05:25 AM)
what do u mean by "gearing service" actually?
tips/suggestion on how to gear wd?
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I also need kind advice.. to build a WD for fast farming A3 MP0-1, how much the cost?

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post Jan 14 2013, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Jan 14 2013, 08:01 AM)
I also need kind advice.. to build a WD for fast farming A3 MP0-1, how much the cost?
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There's 2 options to consider, either 1h+ mojo @ 2h setup. Personally I'm leaning towards 2h setup as its slightly cheaper (buying just one 2h wpn compared to 1h & a mojo) plus 2h setup will offer more dmg if u plan to do speed farming on low mp.

Either way .. aim to get 3 piece of zuni set (for intel & AR bonus, mana regen bonus wont be a big advantage on low mp games)
- Zuni Trail provides 12% MS & dps boost (AR roll is the most expensive.. try to get physical resist@armor & pickup radius if u're going 2h .. MF@GF roll is also useful if u're low para lvl)
- Zuni Vision provides more health & mana (CC roll is the best but expensive .. try get 2xx intel, for the random roll get mana regen @ increase critical chance to Acid Cloud)
- Zuni Pox provides AR & CHD (trifecta cost a bomb, CC@ias roll quite expensive .. for the 3 random roll consider physical resist if u alrdy get them on other gears, LoH, Life% is also nice as it will stack up with the one on Vision)
- Zuni Marrow provides AR (best roll is reduced dmg from elites ... reduced dmg from melee would also work, so will armor @ physical res)
Things to consider: str roll > dex roll as str will add armor which enable u take more hits. Trail & Vision is pretty cheap these days .. Pox & Marrow can be slightly more expensive depending on the rolls u get on those.

Other legendary gears to consider:
- Tyreals Might .. personally i use this for my own speed farming as it gives MS (so i dont need lacuni @ inna pants to get 24 MS) and most importantly it boost ur real dps (not char sheet dps) considerably due to its %dmg against demons & %dmg against elites (Act 3 is 70-80% demons) .. get 19x intel (2xx roll is more expensive), at least 2 sockets & 10-15% dmg against demons.
- Visage of Giyua .. a single item that can give u high AR & most importantly high CC .. go for CC roll + CC to Acid Cloud (10% min CC after u combine both .. max CC obtainable is 14%)
- Sever if ure going 1h+mojo setup for that high %dmg against demons .. open socket is best roll to get .. LoH would be another roll to consider.
- Sun Keeper is another option for 1h+mojo setup for its high MF & %dmg against elites ... get at least 9xx dps .. random roll to consider same as Sever.

2h setup:
Get a high dps Skorn (at least 13xx) with high CHD (150% min) & Bleed Chance .. u dnt need LS on low mp .. LoH however is good to hv but u can easily stack LoH on other gears.
Use Giyua to get high CC ... u can 1-shot entire pack of white mobs using Acid Rain with high CC .. u need xtra CC from Giyua since u lose CC from mojo.
U need to get pickup radius on 3 gears (min of 6 PR each) .. rare shoulder, rare gloves & rare bracers is my recommendation for cheapest budget.

1h setup:
Thing of the Deep mojo will give u +20 pickup radius so its a must .. get at least 200 avg dmg & vit roll if possible
Use Tyreal to get extra dmg.
For weapon .. either go with Sever @ Sun Keeper but if you're going for rare 1h .. get a Spear (low attack speed will ensure u wont burn mana fast & it has high min-max dmg) .. open socket & base CHD is a must .. u wont need LS on low mp but LoH is good to get.
Stack as much avg dmg on jewelry

Build/Skill Setup:
The best build for speed farming on low mp imho is Acid Rain (to clear large pack of white mobs fast) with Jaunt+Stalker (for max mobility) & CoL+Sacrifice (for free zdog + free mana + elite pack killer) .. Grueseome Feast + Grave Injustice passive combo will ensure cooldown on skill while providing mana regen + dps boost.
I already posted something regarding this farming build few pages back if ure interested to read it.

p/s: i hv an extra set of full Zuni + some other weapons/mojo etc if someone is interested in getting them ... feel free to browse AH 1st to see how much u can get those for then offer me a price smile.gif

This post has been edited by Gecko: Jan 14 2013, 09:32 AM
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post Jan 14 2013, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(Gecko @ Jan 14 2013, 09:26 AM)
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thanks.. i feel so fun summon bear to bully mobs in Hell mode.. hope can do same in MP0-1 A3 Inferno..

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post Jan 14 2013, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Jan 14 2013, 09:35 AM)
thanks.. i feel so fun summon bear to bully mobs in Hell mode.. hope can do same in MP0-1 A3 Inferno..
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then you need the ZR reduction -12 on mojo, max mana on head & knife brows.gif

@Gecko how many LoH is needed for MP3? 2k LoH ok ka?
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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Jan 14 2013, 09:35 AM)
thanks.. i feel so fun summon bear to bully mobs in Hell mode.. hope can do same in MP0-1 A3 Inferno..
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WD, either bears or suicide dogs.
You can pretty much forget about other skills since they do not have the burst damage in high MP.

To spam the bears with "infinite" mana,
1) Passive skill, vision quest + blood ritual

2) Active skill, Corpse Spier / Widowmakers

3) Gears, full set Zuni (to have 20 mana regeneration/sec) + 14 mana regeneration (from any gear) + SoJ (with zombie charge reduction cost) + skorn (Why skorn? The best 2H with CD & socket + at least 5.5% LS)

With bears build, farming should be ezpz up to MP7.
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jan 14 2013, 10:03 AM)
WD, either bears or suicide dogs.
You can pretty much forget about other skills since they do not have the burst damage in high MP.

To spam the bears with "infinite" mana,
1) Passive skill, vision quest + blood ritual

2) Active skill, Corpse Spier / Widowmakers

3) Gears, full set Zuni (to have 20 mana regeneration/sec) + 14 mana regeneration (from any gear) + SoJ (with zombie charge reduction cost) + skorn (Why skorn? The best 2H with CD & socket + at least 5.5% LS)

With bears build, farming should be ezpz up to MP7.
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i give u gold + commission and help me build WD can? rclxms.gif .. lazy to stalk in AH.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Jan 14 2013, 11:10 AM)
i give u gold + commission and help me build WD can?  rclxms.gif  .. lazy to stalk in AH.. biggrin.gif
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No need to spend too much time @ AH.

Do you have budget?
You know, Zuni set (4-piece, Vision/Marrow/Pox/Trail) can be in the range of millions to billions. laugh.gif
Skorn, decent one, 15-60m.
SoJ, 10-100m, depends on bonus vs elite & X number of mana reduction for zombie charger.
Amulet/belt/bracer/gloves/vile ward can get in 50m (cheaper as you don't need IAS%).
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jan 14 2013, 11:31 AM)
No need to spend too much time @ AH.

Do you have budget?
You know, Zuni set (4-piece, Vision/Marrow/Pox/Trail) can be in the range of millions to billions.  laugh.gif
Skorn, decent one, 15-60m.
SoJ, 10-100m, depends on bonus vs elite & X number of mana reduction for zombie charger.
Amulet/belt/bracer/gloves/vile ward can get in 50m (cheaper as you don't need IAS%).
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as stated above, i onli looking for fast farming A3 MP0-1 onli.. from Gecko guide, i think some gears i already have..i have billion but will not spent all on WD..

btw WD don need IAS? really.. so stack onli avg dmg, cc and CD?

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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Jan 14 2013, 11:36 AM)
as stated above, i onli looking for fast farming A3 MP0-1 onli.. from Gecko guide, i think some gears i already have..i have billion but will not spent all on WD..

btw WD don need IAS? really.. so stack onli avg dmg, cc and CD?
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For MP0-1, acid rain can get the job done.

As you already have some gears, what are the gears you need?

If you want to have bears build, you don't need IAS.
If you go for suicide dogs, you need to stack IAS. Faster the dogs explode, the more you get your life & mana (through heath globes, passive & active skills).

P/S For normal build, acid rain/RoT/Poison dart/Firebomb etc, IAS helps.

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jan 14 2013, 11:43 AM)
For MP0-1, acid rain can get the job done.

As you already have some gears, what are the gears you need?

If you want to have bears build, you don't need IAS.
If you go for suicide dogs, you need to stack IAS. Faster the dogs explode, the more you get your life & mana (through heath globes, passive & active skills).
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i need Vodoo, offhand, chest, 2 ring, boot, bracer, pant (maybe will use my Inna for MS)... a lot biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

gear i have are weapon, glove, amulet.

weapon (mace=spear as guide from Gecko) and glove (CC, AR, Vit) i use on barb, amulet from monk (LoH, avg dmg, cc)

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jan 14 2013, 09:55 AM)
then you need the ZR reduction -12 on mojo, max mana on head & knife brows.gif

@Gecko how many LoH is needed for MP3? 2k LoH ok ka?
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If u r using RoT, Acid Rain or any other DoT (damage over time) WD spell .. arnd 1k LoH is sufficient for fast health replenish .. however bears do not benefit from LoH .. so if u encounter RD packs .. use Bears only when SW is up and RoT in between .. mp3 n below shud be no problem (i think with new changes to RD in 1.07, LS is not so important for WD unless ure building a tank/panzer build). On higher mp (7 & above) once u get ur dps to 100k n above .. LS will shine using bears .. u can deal massive dmg & at the same time leech back lots of health.

QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Jan 14 2013, 11:51 AM)
i need Vodoo, offhand, chest, 2 ring, boot, bracer, pant (maybe will use my Inna for MS)... a lot  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif

gear i have are weapon, glove, amulet.

weapon (mace=spear as guide from Gecko) and glove (CC, AR, Vit) i use on barb, amulet from monk (LoH, avg dmg, cc)

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high end Zuni set (vision with cc, pox with cc/ias, marrow with 2xx vit, trail with AR) can reach billions but low end Zuni set to just do speed farming on low mp will only cost few millions .. dont spend more than 20m imho. As ive said i got a spare full zuni set if ure interested biggrin.gif
Voodoo Mask i highly suggest get a low intel, mid cc + high cc to acid cloud Visage of Giyua .. for low lvl mp Acid Rain is really great .. budget around 5-7m for that Giyua @ u can use Vision with cc to acid cloud roll (cc roll on Vision can be expensive compared to cc to acid cloud) if u dont use Tyreals
Offhand .. ofc u need ToTD if going 1h+mojo .. can get a decent 1 below 5m
Boots .. Zuni Trail is a must .. 3-5m max for Trail without AR.
Bracers .. any rare with CC, intel/vit, AR ... wont cost much i think
Pants ... Jousting Mail for LoH n some xtra MF (i hv plenty of unused JM pants too lolz)
Ring .. HF ring + low end Unity shud be good

All my recommendations are based on ur need to do low mp farming .. for higher mp farming its a different story altogether hehe
Add me in-game @ Hulkie#6526 & i can show u those unused WD items i hv smile.gif

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QUOTE(Gecko @ Jan 14 2013, 12:49 PM)
Add me in-game @ Hulkie#6526 & i can show u those unused WD items i hv  smile.gif
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will do.. thanks again.
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Hope can help for wd party , this video make me want to roll a wd tongue.gif


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QUOTE(cheer83 @ Jan 14 2013, 03:09 PM)
Hope can help for wd party , this video make me want to roll a wd  tongue.gif

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come..come.. rclxms.gif
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come..come.. rclxms.gif
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Zombie dog build isnt cheap i think, coz i notice something like skull grasp with reduce cooldown of zombie dog all very expensive 1 even roll with dex or stg . 70m budget with me sure way not enuf laugh.gif
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QUOTE(cheer83 @ Jan 14 2013, 03:21 PM)
Zombie dog build isnt cheap i think, coz i notice something like skull grasp with reduce cooldown of zombie dog all very expensive 1 even roll with dex or stg . 70m budget with me sure way not enuf  laugh.gif
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I think its arnd 100m minimum to get 0cd dog gears biggrin.gif

Checkout Turknukem's 0cd dog mp10 solo gameplay where he combines it with Scoundrel freeze.



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