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post Nov 16 2012, 09:01 AM

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I have thought of concealing under my sun visor. Not sure if the tint on the top part of my front screen will cause any issue though.

Found a website where the author shares his guide, but he is based in the U.S. and not driving a kenari, LOL.




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post Nov 16 2012, 09:16 AM

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Nice job dude! thumbup.gif I was thinking of doing this - just couldn't get a used SmartTag at a good price yet tongue.gif
Anyway, just a thought - why not tap the 12v line in your car to power the circuit? You'll need to bring 12v to 9v to power the circuit but in the end, you'll end up with a SmartTag with no battery brows.gif

Keep it up dude... and keep us posted smile.gif
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post Nov 16 2012, 10:13 AM

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TS, why so must hassle on this. Just asking your opinion.

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post Nov 16 2012, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(GoldenHawk @ Nov 16 2012, 09:16 AM)
Nice job dude! thumbup.gif I was thinking of doing this - just couldn't get a used SmartTag at a good price yet tongue.gif
Anyway, just a thought - why not tap the 12v line in your car to power the circuit? You'll need to bring 12v to 9v to power the circuit but in the end, you'll end up with a SmartTag with no battery brows.gif

Keep it up dude... and keep us posted smile.gif
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Yeah, will do that eventually. Hate to change the battery. But I have to find a way to expose the access of inserting Touch 'n Go. I don't think drivers in the US have a separate card for their credit and that is why they can conceal it fully, unless I apply for a Zing Card?


Added on November 16, 2012, 10:26 am
QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ Nov 16 2012, 10:13 AM)
TS, why so must hassle on this. Just asking your opinion.
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Sorry, I do not understand your question.

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post Nov 16 2012, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(vincent_ng86 @ Nov 16 2012, 10:25 AM)
Yeah, will do that eventually. Hate to change the battery. But I have to find a way to expose the access of inserting Touch 'n Go. I don't think drivers in the US have a separate card for their credit  and that is why they can conceal it fully, unless I apply for a Zing Card?
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I think creating an insertion port is better than Zing card - they charge a certain fee for every auto-reload. A few RM IINM. Not worth it if you as me - but that's just me. Maybe some people find it worth their convenience...
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post Nov 16 2012, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(GoldenHawk @ Nov 16 2012, 10:37 AM)
I think creating an insertion port is better than Zing card - they charge a certain fee for every auto-reload. A few RM IINM. Not worth it if you as me - but that's just me. Maybe some people find it worth their convenience...
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I share the same opinion. Will see what I can do.
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post Nov 16 2012, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(vincent_ng86 @ Nov 16 2012, 10:25 AM)
Yeah, will do that eventually. Hate to change the battery. But I have to find a way to expose the access of inserting Touch 'n Go. I don't think drivers in the US have a separate card for their credit  and that is why they can conceal it fully, unless I apply for a Zing Card?


Added on November 16, 2012, 10:26 am

Sorry, I do not understand your question.
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I mean why you need to dismantling it and conceal it to a way no one can see at outside and need to see feng shui where it can detected when passing the Smart tag. I know the reasons but it is quite hassle or ma fan on my side. Why don't put to the in arm rest or glove compartment or the side compartment at your door? And take it out when you pass the smart tag.

Even i saw few cars just stick to windscreen without care of the world. I know previously a lot of people steal smart tag, but now is like majority have smart tag till sometimes i prefer go cash lane or touch n go due to line dam long. They even have RM90 promotion during every Raya.

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post Nov 16 2012, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ Nov 16 2012, 10:41 AM)
I mean why you need to dismantling it and conceal it to a way no one can see at outside and need to see feng shui where it can detected when passing the Smart tag. I know the reasons but it is quite hassle or ma fan on my side. Why don't put to the in arm rest or glove compartment or the side compartment at your door? And take it out when you pass the smart tag. 

Even i saw few cars just stick to windscreen without care of the world. I know previously a lot of people steal smart tag, but now is like majority have smart tag till sometimes i prefer go cash lane or touch n go due to line dam long. They even have RM90 promotion during every Raya.
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The reason I am doing this is as you know. I find it less hassle in the long run.

Stealing smart tag is not a bit issue, the issue is stealing a smart tag with a few hundred credits and worse if your windows are broken into.
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post Nov 16 2012, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ Nov 16 2012, 10:41 AM)
I mean why you need to dismantling it and conceal it to a way no one can see at outside and need to see feng shui where it can detected when passing the Smart tag. I know the reasons but it is quite hassle or ma fan on my side. Why don't put to the in arm rest or glove compartment or the side compartment at your door? And take it out when you pass the smart tag. 

Even i saw few cars just stick to windscreen without care of the world. I know previously a lot of people steal smart tag, but now is like majority have smart tag till sometimes i prefer go cash lane or touch n go due to line dam long. They even have RM90 promotion during every Raya.
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My guess for the reason to conceal is because we are in m'sia... we need to hide all valuable item to prevent from stealing... i hide mine on the door compartment... as long as ppl cant see it than the gadget is safe... old skool thinking.. rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(kentLKW @ Nov 16 2012, 10:49 AM)
My guess for the reason to conceal is because we are in m'sia... we need to hide all valuable item to prevent from stealing... i hide mine on the door compartment... as long as ppl cant see it than the gadget is safe... old skool thinking.. rolleyes.gif
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I think it's "cool" to have something there, but not there tongue.gif
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post Nov 16 2012, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(GoldenHawk @ Nov 16 2012, 10:54 AM)
I think it's "cool" to have something there, but not there tongue.gif
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Haha, it might be, but my sole purpose is for convenient and yet safe.

If only smart tag is not targeted, I would have leave it on the holder 24/7.
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post Nov 16 2012, 12:48 PM

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good share...update wen u install at yr car.
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post Nov 16 2012, 01:22 PM

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Looks like the sensor is souldered onto the chip?. If that is the case might as well just wrap the PCB with some phone/camera cover & stick it onto the windscreen. Nobody will know it's a smart tag.
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post Nov 16 2012, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Nov 16 2012, 01:22 PM)
Looks like the sensor is souldered onto the chip?. If that is the case might as well just wrap the PCB with some phone/camera cover & stick it onto the windscreen. Nobody will know it's a smart tag.
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They might not realise what it is for sometime, but will soon find out. Am thinking for a permanent solution.
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post Nov 16 2012, 02:00 PM

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You stick it at the back of the rear view mirror wrapped in same color black & leave the sensor open unlikely anyone will spot it unless they go point blank and see.
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QUOTE(advocado @ Nov 16 2012, 02:00 PM)
You stick it at the back of the rear view mirror wrapped in same color black & leave the sensor open unlikely anyone will spot it unless they go point blank and see.
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That's what I am thinking as well, not sure how the tinting of the top part of the mirror will affect. If possible, I will probably just attach it with the original casing given there is enough space.

But the real idea is to extend the sensor to the top of the dash board while I can just place the original module the glove box - gives easy access to crediting the card and looks neat!
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post Nov 16 2012, 02:21 PM

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I think the 6 items "LED lookalike" are the transmitters.

Do you think I can desolder them and extend with a smaller PCB board. It will then be wired through?

Do you think it can work?

*Edited:

Should be circuit board rather than PCB Board.

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post Nov 16 2012, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(vincent_ng86 @ Nov 16 2012, 02:21 PM)
I think the 6 items "LED lookalike" are the transmitters.

Do you think I can desolder them and extend with a smaller PCB board. It will then be wired through?

Do you think it can work?

*Edited:

Should be circuit board rather than PCB Board.
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I've not yet dismantle my smart-tag.
Is that the front-facing part ? I'll assume the back-facing part is where you slot the TnG card.
If yes, then confirmed 100% the LED are infra-red LED to transmit.
However, there should be a Receiver antenna also, which I'll assume are the small squares (can't see clearly) next to the LED. Are there any parts/cable not shown in pics from the plastic casing ? hmm.gif

De-soldering it MAY / MAY NOT work. In case the heat damage other components.
Also, with the additional wire length, need to check if any leak/resistance in power. That may have a 50-50 effect of smart-tag lanes able to read or not.

About your tinting, as long as it is not mid/high-end v-kool or anything with metalic particles, it will work. If you notice, some cars that do not cut a hole at the windscreen for tinting, the driver have to open window and wave while driving through smart tag lane.

Another way of mounting is, get another slim box, cut a front-facing hole for the LED, put some clear plastics/tinting. Cut another slot-hole on top, to slot in the TnG card. Then mount it on the upper part of windscreen.
Only minimal wiring work just for the power ... and to reduce from DC 12V to 9V . Check the ampere also.

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Hi vincent,

Have you test to unsolder them and extend it to the wind screen ? Does it work ?

Very interested in this DIY project.


QUOTE(vincent_ng86 @ Nov 16 2012, 02:21 PM)
I think the 6 items "LED lookalike" are the transmitters.

Do you think I can desolder them and extend with a smaller PCB board. It will then be wired through?

Do you think it can work?

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Should be circuit board rather than PCB Board.
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post Nov 29 2012, 05:03 PM

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Have not. As I might be purchasing a new vehicle, I am thinking to unsolder this current smart tag when I received a free new smart tag. LOL.

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