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post Nov 9 2012, 12:30 PM, updated 11y ago

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Hi,

Are there a lot of people using smart tags nowadays? From what I have observed, usually the toll lanes for Smart Tags are lease congested.

Personally, I prefer using it as it saves me time. However I find it troublesome to remove and hide it every time I leave my car. Have anyone tried concealing their smart tags where they can just leave it there (with access to Touch 'n Go - to reload) unless we are using Quik2Go.


This post has been edited by vincent_ng86: Nov 16 2012, 12:57 PM
Nine9
post Nov 9 2012, 12:50 PM

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u can DIY it to fix in your car by put the sensor on top of the dashboard and hide the card reader below the dashboard, all u need is wiring and some DIY skill
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post Nov 9 2012, 12:53 PM

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i hang it on the black 10" tint on the top of windscreen. Put it near to the pillar, outside cant c. hehe
TSvincent_ng86
post Nov 9 2012, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(Nine9 @ Nov 9 2012, 12:50 PM)
u can DIY it to fix in your car by put the sensor on top of the dashboard and hide the card reader below the dashboard, all u need is wiring and some DIY skill
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You mean the Smart Tag can be dismantled?
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post Nov 9 2012, 03:19 PM

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why not? all electronic thing can be dismantled, u just need creativity to create new housing for it and place the sensor on top of the dashboard or may stick it at your car windshield... I also planning wan to make 1 put into my car, now finding for cheap smart tag device
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post Nov 9 2012, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(Nine9 @ Nov 9 2012, 03:19 PM)
why not? all electronic thing can be dismantled, u just need creativity to create new housing for it and place the sensor on top of the dashboard or may stick it at your car windshield... I also planning wan to make 1 put into my car, now finding for cheap smart tag device
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Will try to do it this evening after work!
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post Nov 9 2012, 04:01 PM

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carefully dismantle it bro, and make sure u have spare smart tag for testing at the tol... update the pic too~
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post Nov 9 2012, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(Nine9 @ Nov 9 2012, 04:01 PM)
carefully dismantle it bro, and make sure u have spare smart tag for testing at the tol... update the pic too~
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Will be careful, but do not have a spare though. Will update my work log if I am successful!
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post Nov 9 2012, 04:22 PM

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yup, i think u will need soldering tool, cable tide and some wire... hope u will successful mod it
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post Nov 9 2012, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(Nine9 @ Nov 9 2012, 04:22 PM)
yup, i think u will need soldering tool, cable tide and some wire... hope u will successful mod it
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A search on the web shows that there had been several people asking. Have not seen any successful attempts though.
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post Nov 9 2012, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(vincent_ng86 @ Nov 9 2012, 04:44 PM)
A search on the web shows that there had been several people asking. Have not seen any successful attempts though.
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SmartTag works on IR (infra-red), means needs line of sight.
The best position for best signal strength is in the middle (rear view mirror) and as front as possible (dashboard)

Safest is still to hide it, and hence, I think the best is still to dismantle and re-wire it.
Keep the tag in glovebox. Do another power rewire from Cigarette lighter, but make sure your cigarette lighter is those type that will switch off when you off ignition. Otherwise, drain battery.

Also, you need to reduce the voltage from 12-14V to 8-9V range.

Test it on the left-most SmartTag lane, where you can always reverse into T&G lanes or manual pay.
Also, test only on non-peak hours so that a long queue won't suddenly build up behind you.

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post Nov 9 2012, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Nov 9 2012, 06:43 PM)
SmartTag works on IR (infra-red), means needs line of sight.
The best position for best signal strength is in the middle (rear view mirror) and as front as possible (dashboard)

Safest is still to hide it, and hence, I think the best is still to dismantle and re-wire it.
Keep the tag in glovebox. Do another power rewire from Cigarette lighter, but make sure your cigarette lighter is those type that will switch off when you off ignition. Otherwise, drain battery.

Also, you need to reduce the voltage from 12-14V to 8-9V range.

Test it on the left-most SmartTag lane, where you can always reverse into T&G lanes or manual pay.
Also, test only on non-peak hours so that a long queue won't suddenly build up behind you.
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Thanks for the valuable advice. Will update here as soon as I attempt.
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post Nov 10 2012, 07:35 AM

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I usually just keep the tag inside the glove box and ask my wife to pass it to me when we wanted to use it, then keep it back in the glove box.. tongue.gif

Btw, a taxi driver taught me how to cheat the smart tag.. it work, but of course if I mentioned it here I'll be banned.
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QUOTE(muserella @ Nov 10 2012, 07:35 AM)
I usually just keep the tag inside the glove box and ask my wife to pass it to me when we wanted to use it, then keep it back in the glove box.. tongue.gif

Btw, a taxi driver taught me how to cheat the smart tag.. it work, but of course if I mentioned it here I'll be banned.
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For educational purpose I think you won't get ban. whistling.gif

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post Nov 10 2012, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(muserella @ Nov 10 2012, 07:35 AM)
I usually just keep the tag inside the glove box and ask my wife to pass it to me when we wanted to use it, then keep it back in the glove box.. tongue.gif

Btw, a taxi driver taught me how to cheat the smart tag.. it work, but of course if I mentioned it here I'll be banned.
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can use PM drool.gif

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QUOTE(muserella @ Nov 10 2012, 07:35 AM)
I usually just keep the tag inside the glove box and ask my wife to pass it to me when we wanted to use it, then keep it back in the glove box.. tongue.gif

Btw, a taxi driver taught me how to cheat the smart tag.. it work, but of course if I mentioned it here I'll be banned.
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PM me? brows.gif
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QUOTE(muserella @ Nov 10 2012, 07:35 AM)
I usually just keep the tag inside the glove box and ask my wife to pass it to me when we wanted to use it, then keep it back in the glove box.. tongue.gif

Btw, a taxi driver taught me how to cheat the smart tag.. it work, but of course if I mentioned it here I'll be banned.
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stay close to the front car?
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QUOTE(muserella @ Nov 10 2012, 07:35 AM)
I usually just keep the tag inside the glove box and ask my wife to pass it to me when we wanted to use it, then keep it back in the glove box.. tongue.gif

Btw, a taxi driver taught me how to cheat the smart tag.. it work, but of course if I mentioned it here I'll be banned.
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There are several methods, but if done too frequent and the lane has camera, you'll be reported to police. Whether it is worth to break the law for rm1.xx for X numbe rof times, it is each individual call... rolleyes.gif

For those old enough, Grand Saga started without the barrier at toll plaza. But with too many vehicles start to just speed through, finally they install barrier.
Another one didn't install camera on all lanes, too many violations, and they also install camera wink.gif
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I received numerous of PM today asking how to do it.. My method requires no cucuk rapat2 nor modifying your smart tag. This method was discovered by taxis & lorry drivers (no offences, my late father also was a taxi driver) don't tell me you can't think of it.. it's so simple. You just need to really understand how the system works. By saying system, it's not only the electronics, it can be the terms & conditions of the facilities. I've gave a lot of hints.. the rest is up to you how to figured it out. tongue.gif

"If you good at something, don't do it for free" The Joker..
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post Nov 12 2012, 10:07 PM

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Dismantling Smart Tag

I have managed to dismantle the Smart Tag without issue.

There are basically 2 screws. The 1st one is located on the left side just below the "Smart Tag" logo. There is a plastic cover that covers the hole of the screw. The second one is inside the battery compartment.

The screws however are not "-" or "+". It is a type of six lobe screw. The casing can be dismantle without any problem as soon the screws are removed.

Now I am exploring my Kenari to know which would be the best position to place the board. Would I be able to install it under the dash board and connect the sensor on top of the dash board? Any ideas where can I get the add on sensor and what type of sensor is that? Can normal RFID sensor work or there is a special type?



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