Even when you tell that to anyone of them there, they will answer you "OK" or nodding their head abit without soul and passion
response.. giving you more worries and anger also.. hahaha *true story*

This post has been edited by Ah_Bear: Jan 11 2013, 05:27 PM

PM-ed. Pls revert. tqtq

b-b-b-but.. Accord has Dual Zone Auto Climate control A/C, premium audio with subwoofer speaker as standard..
those are something that I wish to have which also found in Sportage..
b-b-b-but.. ended up with Forte.. aiyakkk..

This post has been edited by Ah_Bear: Jan 12 2013, 03:07 PM

LOL.. gimme 5.. ~~~

16" with Michelin PRIMACY LC 215/55R16 on all 4 wheels = Heaven

Do note that straightline stability and cornering handling will be slightly compromised than stock setup (less engaging or spirited to drive). But it worth alot if u prioritize on super quiet (soft solid sound) and luxury comfort ride feel..

both of u racing early in the morning ka.. ?? keke

my home 1.8 4 speed Altis very kuat makan minyak also leh.. from KL to Genting and back home used half tank..

The reason to downsize from 17" to 16" if you wish for less road noise and harshness through uneven and bumpy surfaces,
and more softer cushiony ride..

if you're having high expectation on ultra quiet and comfort ride, Michelin Primacy LC is always my recommendation..

however, if you need reasonably quiet, great road traction and sportier handling.. Yokohama Advan DB V551 or C Drive 2 also my recommendation..

do note that Michelin Primacy LC has the most quiet and limousine-like ride characteristic due to its soft rubber compound..
and well designed thread eliminate road noise, gives solid and comfort ride of a premium big car-like..
hence, steering response won't be as sharp as 17" or harder rubber tyres.. you can't have the best of all

do keep in mind that Michelin's tires are expensive to buy than other japanese brands.. suggest you to visit tire shop and ask for
their latest price..

so far I have been used Michelin MXV8 (predecessor of Primacy LC) on Waja 205/55/R16 for 4 years and Primacy LC on Vios 195/55/R15
both are very quiet and supple ride.. speed over 180km/h, I still couldn't feel the tires rolling noise.. just like 60km/h.. don't worry as Michelin
tires are very safe tires too.. grips well even roads are wet.. just that a bit lacking of sporty driving and responsive steering response..

my home's 2009 Estima using Advan DB V551 and 3 Series on C Drive 2.. no complaints. Still can't beat the quietness and limousine-like comfort
of Primacy LC..

you decide yourself lah..

This post has been edited by Ah_Bear: Jan 13 2013, 11:27 AM

I always go to Syarikat Kee Hin at Old Klang Road opposite Esso.. they're honest on their opinions and
willing to advice on your tires needs and budget.. their quoting price is OK too..

however you must talk to them well don't lcly.. if not they won't really entertain that kind of customer so much..

1) 215/55/R16
2) As mentioned at my earlier comment post.
3) Also that same shop..

want meh 15" ?? looks so cacat.. doesn't complement the Forte's sharp body design and aggressive styling..
no others C segment using 195 jor lorrr.. you cannot follow Waja's footstep ler.. 195 really affects the surefooted handling and stability
on C Segment body..
for Vios and Almera no problem la

my previous Vios trd sportivo used 195/55/R15.. just OK.. i wonder those J and E spec 175/65/R14 apa maciam..

btw, my current Forte 2.0 is using 215/45/R17 Michelin Pilot Sport 3
great steering feedback (very sensitive to maneuvering left and right ie: changing lanes)
grippy on cornering at curvy flyover, more sense of security and in control..

tradeoff is kinda bumpy and stiff ride.. good thing is 50% less noisy than stock Silverstone Atlantis V7
which have slippery grip on wet / during sudden braking and train track-like noise..

downsizing rims some people could feel 5% better FC.. I guess to me I won't feel any difference,
my right foot always heavy..

This post has been edited by Ah_Bear: Jan 13 2013, 11:57 AM

Roooarrrr.. !!
In comparison with my typical style driving.. Forte 2.0 and Altis 1.8 4 speed from KL pergi Genting dan balik..
my Forte used more than quarter fuel tank (consumed 30-35%) looking at the fuel gauge..
Altis punya consumed 45%.. gauge needle nearly pointing at half tank..
means.. Altis more makan minyak !!

This post has been edited by Ah_Bear: Jan 13 2013, 12:01 PM

I'm happy with Pilot Sport 3.. it matches the stiff suspension and 17" tires comfort and handling combination..
it is quiet and relatively comfortable when driving on new paved roads.. but I'm still miss my previous Primacy LC experience because my ears and butt are sensitive..
can't have 100% on comfort and handling.. either 50:50 or 75:25 or 25:75..

not everything is perfect

2 months ago I've test driven all-new Ford Focus hatch and sedan both.. both cars stock tires given is Primacy LC..
yes, it is super quiet and comfortable like big premium car.. makes me wanna pay booking and downpayment for that car terus.. hahaha
(just kidding).. despite with PLC tires, that Focus still feels more stable and grippy on cornering because of its trademark best-in-class handling..
sadly steering response wasn't as sharp as my Forte with Pilot Sport 3 rubbers..

PLC should go with 16" for enhanced cushiony and satisfying solid smooth comfort ride..
make sure its 215/55/R16.. don't go for higher profile 215/65/R16.. later your car will float on highway speed..

you mau sporty and abit more engaging to drive and feels securely stable.. take the PS3..

bear in mind both tires the cost per piece are about the same.. and quite pricey..
make sure after you purchased must really jaga the tires properly..

my stock size PS3 per piece was RM500l piece.. traded in Silverstone and I only pay RM430/pc for new PS3

I suggest u keep the nice enough stock 17 inch rims and go for Mich PS3. Great enough for curvy road and grips well and corners well.

Yokohama Advan Db maybe very quiet, but comfort is so-so only.. ride is still firm and jittery.

Best comfort and quiet tires so far to me is Mich PLC.

Michelin is a good tire.. good thing comes with "good" price lol..

try powder coat it to matt black.. and ask how much is the price..

hmm it looks good to your eyes.. maybe I don't like kecik rims lol

yeah 15 inch tyres are cheaper twice than 17 inch..

I used my Silverstone for about 3 months only managed to trade in abt RM70/pc..

Klang tayar shop always cheaper.. but I changed mine at old klang road.. my car mileage was more than 5k km for 3 months that's why my Silverstone no more value.. fyi Atlantis V7 17" brand new is RM230/pc.. zzzzz

the above 2 mentioned are entry-level tires.. I would choose XM2 for its durability long lasting, feels grippy on road enough for most situations..
CC5 I think used for myvi stock tires.. they say overall performance below average.. hmm

didn't trade in my rims.. still using the stock one.. because I still wanna use 17" until koyak then only change.. hehe