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post Mar 1 2006, 05:31 PM, updated 20y ago

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well, i'm really confused now. i'm currently waiting for my spm results and is wondering about how matriculation works.

you see, i applied for the government matriculation last year... and my counsellor told us that we can go overseas after completing both matriculation and a degree in any malaysian universities but she didn't elaborate much about it.

however, when i consult my friends from other school, they told me that their counsellors said that malaysian government matriculation is only recognised in malaysia. and after the degree, our chances to be accepted in foreign universities are very slim... and that we might only be accepted in indonesia. is this accurate?

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the chances in furthering your studies in foreign universities, i think depends on how you are doing in local universities.slim chances or not, i dont know.


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Hmm...im oso waiting for SPM results thts gonna be available soon.
I dunno wats matriculation so im planing to go for foundation at UTAR.
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WinnieH, borrow ur thread for a while~ tongue.gif

QUOTE(radioactive @ Mar 1 2006, 05:43 PM)
Hmm...im oso waiting for SPM results thts gonna be available soon.
I dunno wats matriculation so im planing to go for foundation at UTAR.
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Hi, i'm a SPM graduate too, just want to ask how much it cost(foundation at UTAR)? Is it 3 years and after that u get a diploma?
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QUOTE(WinnieH @ Mar 1 2006, 05:31 PM)
well, i'm really confused now. i'm currently waiting for my spm results and is wondering about how matriculation works.

you see, i applied for the government matriculation last year... and my counsellor told us that we can go overseas after completing both matriculation and a degree in any malaysian universities but she didn't elaborate much about it.

however, when i consult my friends from other school, they told me that their counsellors said that malaysian government matriculation is only recognised in malaysia. and after the degree, our chances to be accepted in foreign universities are very slim... and that we might only be accepted in indonesia. is this accurate?
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marticulation is like speedboat to and island compared using the normal way either using diploma or STPM ticket. matriculation is something like A-level or Pre-U level where you gain faster access to a degree in local Uni compared to STPM where you need to have a good result to enter your preferable course. You need to get certain cgpa in matriculation to entitled to enter it.

as for the recognition of matriculation, I'm not so sure bout it. Maybe feynman could elobrate more. It is better still if you insist wanted to go foreign Uni, an A-Level or which ever is required is much better because they have set a standard requirement in this exam.

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QUOTE(WinnieH @ Mar 1 2006, 05:31 PM)
well, i'm really confused now. i'm currently waiting for my spm results and is wondering about how matriculation works.

you see, i applied for the government matriculation last year... and my counsellor told us that we can go overseas after completing both matriculation and a degree in any malaysian universities but she didn't elaborate much about it.

however, when i consult my friends from other school, they told me that their counsellors said that malaysian government matriculation is only recognised in malaysia. and after the degree, our chances to be accepted in foreign universities are very slim... and that we might only be accepted in indonesia. is this accurate?
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QUOTE(stevanistelrooy @ Mar 1 2006, 08:35 PM)
marticulation is like speedboat to and island compared using the normal way either using diploma or STPM ticket. matriculation is something like A-level or Pre-U level where you gain faster access to a degree in local Uni compared to STPM where you need to have a good result to enter your preferable course. You need to get certain cgpa in matriculation to entitled to enter it.

as for the recognition of matriculation, I'm not so sure bout it. Maybe feynman could elobrate more. It is better still if you insist wanted to go foreign Uni, an A-Level or which ever is required is much better because they have set a standard requirement in this exam.
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matriculation, highly unlikely that you can use it to enter a foreign university. The reason is because of the method of assessment. Unlike A-levels, STPM, Australian and canadian grade 12, matriculation isn't really moderated by a examining body, too many things related to matriculation is in the dark, things like who sets the standards? Who marks the papers? Are there any external observers to ensure that standards are maintained? Matriculation is simply not transparent, if something is not transparent, there sure are some hanky-panky things going on. However, I believe that it can be used as a proof of secondary education for American Universities. Don't take my word for it, call up the university concerned to find out whether they are aware of something called malaysian matriculation and if they do, ask them whether they accept it or not.


Our degrees are recognised, you can use them to pursue masters or doctoral studies at foreign universities.

Matriculation, A-levels, STPM are all pre-u courses.



QUOTE(Dr@gon @ Mar 1 2006, 08:10 PM)
WinnieH, borrow ur thread for a while~  tongue.gif
Hi, i'm a SPM graduate too, just want to ask how much it cost(foundation at UTAR)? Is it 3 years and after that u get a diploma?
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No, UTAR foundation takes you only one year to complete. Upon completion and if the necessary grades, you will be guaranteed a place at UTAR.
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oh thank you guys! that was a great help. so, if i get a degree in any a malaysian university, i DO have a chance to go to overseas then?

that's great. thanks y'all once again!
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what ur counsellor said is true. if u can get in matriculation and later finish off a degree from any local U in msia, u can go for a second degree/masters/phd overseas, generally because our degree is recognized internationally (well, most of it laa).

what course r u planning to take?

if ur applying international universities using matriculation, ur chances are virtually none. even msian universities have problems accepting matriculation graduates from other msian universities. matriculation is university specific. if u took matrics in UM, u will end up in UM. any application to other msian universities are dealt in a case-by-case basis.

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Mar 2 2006, 03:03 AM)
what ur counsellor said is true. if u can get in matriculation and later finish off a degree from any local U in msia, u can go for a second degree/masters/phd overseas, generally because our degree is recognized internationally (well, most of it laa).

what course r u planning to take?

if ur applying international universities using matriculation, ur chances are virtually none. even msian universities have problems accepting matriculation graduates from other msian universities. matriculation is university specific. if u took matrics in UM, u will end up in UM. any application to other msian universities are dealt in a case-by-case basis.
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well i'm planning to take up pharmacy. by the way, what's the difference of matriculation in universities like UM and the matriculations in each state? you know, like kolej matrikulasi melaka, kolej matrikulasi negeri sembilan...etc.

and if i plan to do my masters overseas, will take look at my matriculation certificate as well eventhough i've got a degree from a malaysian university? i've heard many people saying that they might pick a stpm or A levels holder rather than an unknown ( maybe to them) matriculation holder.
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QUOTE(WinnieH @ Mar 1 2006, 05:31 PM)

however, when i consult my friends from other school, they told me that their counsellors said that malaysian government matriculation is only recognised in malaysia. and after the degree, our chances to be accepted in foreign universities are very slim... and that we might only be accepted in indonesia. is this accurate?
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The one I highlighted one is true!!
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post Mar 2 2006, 02:10 PM

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Matriculation doesn't guarantee you a place in local university. It's a just speedboat pass.

Speaking about recognition, how about a marticulation from Singaporean polytechnic?

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QUOTE(WinnieH @ Mar 2 2006, 11:44 AM)
well i'm planning to take up pharmacy. by the way, what's the difference of matriculation in universities like UM and the matriculations in each state? you know, like kolej matrikulasi melaka, kolej matrikulasi negeri sembilan...etc.

and if i plan to do my masters overseas, will take look at my matriculation certificate as well eventhough i've got a degree from a malaysian university?
i've heard many people saying that they might pick a stpm or A levels holder rather than an unknown ( maybe to them) matriculation holder.
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Matriculation is useless at that point, what matters most is your bachelors.

Just like admission into your first degreem while your SPM shows that you are a consistent worker, it is not referred to for offers to be made.

QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 2 2006, 02:10 PM)
Matriculation doesn't guarantee you a place in local university. It's a just speedboat pass.

Speaking about recognition, how about a marticulation from Singaporean polytechnic?

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In what sense?
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QUOTE(feynman @ Mar 2 2006, 03:03 PM)
Matriculation is useless at that point, what matters most is your bachelors.

Just like admission into your first degreem while your SPM shows that you are a consistent worker, it is not referred to for offers to be made.
In what sense?
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Locally or globally (Malaysia, Australia)? Admission to colleges ...

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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 2 2006, 03:09 PM)
Locally or globally (Malaysia, Australia)? Admission to colleges ...

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That is subjective.
It may be possible for IPTS but not for IPTA.

You need to contact the relevant universities for clarifications. Polytechnic diplomas are usually for those intending to enter NUS or NTU.
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QUOTE(feynman @ Mar 2 2006, 03:19 PM)
That is subjective.
It may be possible for IPTS but not for IPTA.

You need to contact the relevant universities for clarifications. Polytechnic diplomas are usually for those intending to enter NUS or NTU.
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I also have this idea too ... blush.gif

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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 2 2006, 02:10 PM)
Matriculation doesn't guarantee you a place in local university. It's a just speedboat pass.

Sorry but...

Matriculation (KPM) does guarantee you a place in local university as long as you pass the minimum CGPA (2.0 only). But it does not guarantee you to get your highest choice in your UPU application if you have a so-so result.

We're talking about KPM matriculation here... not specific Pre-U matrics like UIA matrics or such.

And it is true that matriculation is only for local universities. But so far, with matriculation result you can also apply for degree courses from other local private/franchise university. But it is also possible for international universities to accept KPM matriculation result.

I know coz I've been there.
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Mar 2 2006, 09:06 PM)
Sorry but...

Matriculation (KPM) does guarantee you a place in local university as long as you pass the minimum CGPA (2.0 only). But it does not guarantee you to get your highest choice in your UPU application if you have a so-so result.

We're talking about KPM matriculation here... not specific Pre-U matrics like UIA matrics or such.

And it is true that matriculation is only for local universities. But so far, with matriculation result you can also apply for degree courses from other local private/franchise university. But it is also possible for international universities to accept KPM matriculation result.

I know coz I've been there.

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i applied for curtin university degree course with my matriculation result
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Mar 4 2006, 12:13 PM)
i applied for curtin university degree course with my matriculation result
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If i not mistaken, certain overseas universities accept malaysian matriculation result. My friend had applied for medical course at 4 universities in ireland and it requires minimum 3.8cgpa for malaysians matriculation (this include Pusat Asasi Sains UM) . It also state the minimum requirement for stpm candidates.

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well i'm planning to take up pharmacy. by the way, what's the difference of matriculation in universities like UM and the matriculations in each state? you know, like kolej matrikulasi melaka, kolej matrikulasi negeri sembilan...etc.

and if i plan to do my masters overseas, will take look at my matriculation certificate as well eventhough i've got a degree from a malaysian university? i've heard many people saying that they might pick a stpm or A levels holder rather than an unknown ( maybe to them) matriculation holder.

Matriculation in UM, u mean Pusat Asasi Sains UM a.k.a PASUM. Pasum only accept malay, and they get higher chances to enter UM compare to other people from KPM matrics. But, bear in mind that their syllabus are totally different and they take 4 main subjects compare to normal KPM matrics which take only 3 subjects.

I think when u want to do master in overseas, they wont look at your pre-u result. U already got your degree, why they want to look at your past 4 or 5 years certificate?

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