QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Dec 8 2012, 11:07 AM)
Examined the Stainless Steel variant today No. 0xxx/2000. Its too big for my wrist. More than 50mm lug to lug. Okay for display collection. Looks larger than the Orient M-Force Diver and it has English / Kanji Day ring.
QUOTE(patryn33 @ Dec 9 2012, 08:27 AM)
the current inhouse movement alpha is base on ETA 7001 design, alot of tear down on those pre-2005 alpha movement. ebauches is used when a maker buys parts from ETA and make them. Its much like Tag Heuer getting Seiko design making their Chrono.
there are little mention on their other movements, some forum says they just beautify alpha movement and change to 3/4 plate, forgetting that these mod are done too ie hacking (iirc original Peseux 7001 does not hack), Glashütte click, Trivois fine adjustment. others claim all these chances qualify its as a inhouse movement as there are little resemblance.
Anyway, so how much by industrial standard to qualify inhouse? Today, they make most of the movement inhouse only parts like rubies and balance springs are bought from suppliers. nomos didn't move to make their own movement because of ETA restriction on ebauches.
much like buying any watch, its always buyer decision if a watch is worth it. A tudor use unmod ETA prices are higher than many brands that do Mod their movement. LOL
Seagull also make inhouse movement for that matter.
Federation of the Swiss Watch Industry FH Dictionary:
<Link>Ébauche : The modern ébauche is a jewelled or non-jewelled watch-movement, without its regulating organs, mainspring, dial or hands.
Just to clarify, I did not say that Nomos bought ebauches from ETA. If they did, maybe they could price them lower and pass the savings to customers. For the alpha and gamma movement with their modifications, i think it would be more accurate to say that it
based on the ebauche rather than the Peseux 7001 movement itself. Please correct me, if I'm wrong.
Anyway, so how much by industrial standard to qualify inhouse?That's the problem because there is no standard definition for an inhouse movement. Any Tom, d*** & Harry Swiss Watch company that proclaims to have an inhouse movement could have been designed or/and manufactured or/and assembled by someone else. Some just slap on their name, put their fancy finishing and decorations and use precious metals to jack up the price.
If one were to apply the same standards to the automotive industry, would one consider Perodua, Proton and Naza making inhouse cars or licensed rebadged cars?
In my case, I refer to my own strict inhouse movement criteria since the money comes out from my wallet:
It must be designed, manufactured and assembled by the watch company itself to qualify for the definition of an inhouse movement.
I had no intention of disparaging Nomos. Just giving my opinion from my perspective. Thinking of getting a Tangente Gangreserve or this for the right price:
NOMOS Tangente Taiwan Sky LE
Nov 27 2012, 06:58 PM
) but didn't like the "quartz" marking on the dial and the fact that can only get it new via Silverman in London.
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