QUOTE(Maxwell6635 @ Nov 4 2012, 10:12 PM)
So why are you paying extra for ABS? =OPROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V34, Edisi tikus ~ 过街老鼠 人人喊打 ~
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Nov 4 2012, 10:38 PM
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Nov 4 2012, 10:46 PM
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Nov 4 2012, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(kokhing520 @ Nov 4 2012, 09:57 PM) 1800... Come out for a midnight run TT, I wish to see it for myself to be sure.Added on November 4, 2012, 10:00 pm i always use minimum level of temperature...and blower speed of 1-2.. most maximum only one bar...>< no choice...sangat sejuk betul! QUOTE(Maxwell6635 @ Nov 4 2012, 10:12 PM) Disable ABS will jam your brake more often. It does not increase brake performance. A car with ABS, normally you'll have slightly numb feeling on the brake pedal, especially when you're emergency, your car tend to keep rolling for a distance before its fully stopped. Reason being, ABS functionality is to ensure your wheels does not fully STOP in the event of emergency, partly to allow you to steer yourself away from greater danger, another thing is to maximize your tire traction. Do understand in the event of aquaplaning, if your wheels are fully stopped, the wheels to surface water rejection is minimal. ABS is there to ensure your rubber continue rolling so the water get cut away to have more surface contact. Appreciate to have ABS in a modern technology equipped vehicle, or you must practice Aku Brake Sendiri. Meanwhile, tell your mechanic to go FUcK himself for the irresponsible recommendation. Those days when Wira 1.8 owners went disable their ABS is because it was malfunction, and locally doesn't have replacement part. In order to repair those ABS can easily cost up to 4k and or above. Therefore some of the owner decided to risk their life. Enjoy the video. |
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Nov 4 2012, 10:52 PM
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That few spilt second... I wish for everthing, ABS, Traction control, air lock etc etc... The car just wont stop...
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Nov 4 2012, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE(redshark_999 @ Nov 4 2012, 10:38 PM) lol..^^my saga flx ..got abs leAdded on November 4, 2012, 11:00 pm QUOTE(kenjilew @ Nov 4 2012, 10:21 PM) haha...ok...when i sell my car 1st...^^wakakaAdded on November 4, 2012, 11:00 pm QUOTE(IamNOT @ Nov 4 2012, 10:46 PM) lol...haha...raining o?...how come lehThis post has been edited by Maxwell6635: Nov 4 2012, 11:00 PM |
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Nov 4 2012, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE(Maxwell6635 @ Nov 4 2012, 10:59 PM) lol...haha...raining o?...how come leh |
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Nov 4 2012, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Nov 4 2012, 10:52 PM) Come out for a midnight run TT, I wish to see it for myself to be sure. haha...oh really..haha......^^......i go fxxk them.....^^iDisable ABS will jam your brake more often. It does not increase brake performance. A car with ABS, normally you'll have slightly numb feeling on the brake pedal, especially when you're emergency, your car tend to keep rolling for a distance before its fully stopped. Reason being, ABS functionality is to ensure your wheels does not fully STOP in the event of emergency, partly to allow you to steer yourself away from greater danger, another thing is to maximize your tire traction. Do understand in the event of aquaplaning, if your wheels are fully stopped, the wheels to surface water rejection is minimal. ABS is there to ensure your rubber continue rolling so the water get cut away to have more surface contact. Appreciate to have ABS in a modern technology equipped vehicle, or you must practice Aku Brake Sendiri. Meanwhile, tell your mechanic to go f*** himself for the irresponsible recommendation. Those days when Wira 1.8 owners went disable their ABS is because it was malfunction, and locally doesn't have replacement part. In order to repair those ABS can easily cost up to 4k and or above. Therefore some of the owner decided to risk their life. Enjoy the video. |
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Nov 4 2012, 11:09 PM
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Nov 4 2012, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Nov 4 2012, 10:52 PM) Come out for a midnight run TT, I wish to see it for myself to be sure. Disable ABS will jam your brake more often. It does not increase brake performance. A car with ABS, normally you'll have slightly numb feeling on the brake pedal, especially when you're emergency, your car tend to keep rolling for a distance before its fully stopped. Reason being, ABS functionality is to ensure your wheels does not fully STOP in the event of emergency, partly to allow you to steer yourself away from greater danger, another thing is to maximize your tire traction. Do understand in the event of aquaplaning, if your wheels are fully stopped, the wheels to surface water rejection is minimal. ABS is there to ensure your rubber continue rolling so the water get cut away to have more surface contact. Appreciate to have ABS in a modern technology equipped vehicle, or you must practice Aku Brake Sendiri. Meanwhile, tell your mechanic to go f*** himself for the irresponsible recommendation. Those days when Wira 1.8 owners went disable their ABS is because it was malfunction, and locally doesn't have replacement part. In order to repair those ABS can easily cost up to 4k and or above. Therefore some of the owner decided to risk their life. Enjoy the video. |
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Nov 4 2012, 11:30 PM
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QUOTE(asrul @ Nov 4 2012, 09:36 PM) When the Campro first came out, before the CPS and IAFM, the engine "featured" a notorious torque dip between the 2k-3k RPM. That means, when at 2k-3k RPM, you will feel that your engine is underpowered, until beyond 3k RPM when the torque suddenly recovers. Unfortunately, for daily driving, especially for AT cars, most cars run at that crucial 2k-3k range most of the time, and many people have cursed Campro and Proton for this shortcoming.When CPS came out, it featured a variable intake manifold (VIM), which is essentially a mechanism that regulates air intake speed depending on the RPM. When below 4k RPM, the air going into the intake manifold is slower, whereas beyond 4k RPM, the air is allowed to enter the manifold at a higher speed. This mechanism overcame the torque dip and introduced a much smoother torque curve to the Campro engine. Don't ask me how it did that, I don't know the exact details as to how the VIM eliminated the torque dip. The IAFM functions the same way as the VIM, the only difference is that the VIM is electronically controlled by the ECU, whereas the IAFM is mechanically controlled by intake vacuum. If you removed the IAFM or your IAFM malfunctions, you will notice that your car is underpowered at the 2k-3k RPM. Added on November 4, 2012, 11:33 pm QUOTE(Maxwell6635 @ Nov 4 2012, 10:12 PM) Re-iterating what others have mentioned, it is irresponsible for your foreman to make such suggestions. Carmakers invested untold amount of money to develop the ABS for road cars, it is not a useless mechanism.Unless your car is meant for track racing, otherwise keep the ABS. This post has been edited by dares: Nov 4 2012, 11:33 PM |
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Nov 4 2012, 11:40 PM
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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 4 2012, 11:30 PM) When the Campro first came out, before the CPS and IAFM, the engine "featured" a notorious torque dip between the 2k-3k RPM. That means, when at 2k-3k RPM, you will feel that your engine is underpowered, until beyond 3k RPM when the torque suddenly recovers. Unfortunately, for daily driving, especially for AT cars, most cars run at that crucial 2k-3k range most of the time, and many people have cursed Campro and Proton for this shortcoming. thanks When CPS came out, it featured a variable intake manifold (VIM), which is essentially a mechanism that regulates air intake speed depending on the RPM. When below 4k RPM, the air going into the intake manifold is slower, whereas beyond 4k RPM, the air is allowed to enter the manifold at a higher speed. This mechanism overcame the torque dip and introduced a much smoother torque curve to the Campro engine. Don't ask me how it did that, I don't know the exact details as to how the VIM eliminated the torque dip. The IAFM functions the same way as the VIM, the only difference is that the VIM is electronically controlled by the ECU, whereas the IAFM is mechanically controlled by intake vacuum. If you removed the IAFM or your IAFM malfunctions, you will notice that your car is underpowered at the 2k-3k RPM. Added on November 4, 2012, 11:49 pmjust now i read somewhere on the net there is a guy have problem where his fuel bar will not full even he pump full. then the mechanic replace something. forget that website already. because i remember last week when i was in ipoh, i refuel until full then one bar left not full on the meter Added on November 4, 2012, 11:52 pmfound it QUOTE If the modulator does not cause the noise, what is it about? Rather than making noise, it is actually controls the fuel meter. For Proton Persona owner, do you notice that the fuel meter never show FULL even though you have a full tank? Tell the mechanic during your next service and they will replace for you. Make sure your warranty is not end and bring along your car grant (photo copy will do). The modulator cost more than RM400 in the market, wao.. http://putrapermai.org/2009/07/02/proton-iafm-engine/ This post has been edited by asrul: Nov 4 2012, 11:53 PM |
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Nov 5 2012, 12:02 AM
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Nov 5 2012, 12:36 AM
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QUOTE(kokhing520 @ Nov 4 2012, 11:16 PM) Midnight run as in driving the car in the late evening when less traffic, so can easily track your fuel consumption QUOTE(lhwj @ Aug 11 2012, 04:06 AM) Had a good double midnight run with YAB PS click on Fuelly below and look at last two fuel ups as hint QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 11 2012, 10:25 AM) LC2K rock! I think the 2nd fuel up is still totally legit despite I think the pump overshoot. May be that's just YAB style as its similar to what I have in my fuelly. To those who interested, we took a full tank of petrol in Petrogas Pump 11, then run for 81km to reach the same petrol station and to fill up to full tank again at the same Petrogas Pump 11. Then we took the same route again and refill the same way to find out 2 different driving habits leading to different kind of fuel consumption. The result was not consistent due to pump auto stop trigger, but generally we've got the idea of how each other's differ in term of gas pedal action. Indeed Luke is still hot blooded, whereas YAB is too unker for him. Report ends here as some of the important data I'm keeping it for the coming event(which I have not geet the sponsor yet). Total 3 sets of KENWOOD tweeter had been given out. I myself took 1, but kena scolded by sponsor as my car was not standard as they required. Another pair had been given out to Asad on previous midnight run, and the last pair goes to Luke for yesterday's midnight run. A short note: 3:20am in the morning, a bloody white FL/FLX come and haibeam us & follow closely diong until we stop at Petrogas station. If you're a member, I appreciate your gesture QUOTE(iskazulka @ Oct 1 2012, 03:33 PM) although it's already old story already, but don't care one. first of all, i am so happy that i'm one of the few that got lucky have midnight run with YAB unker david. for you all out there, if you are free, please do come to TT. can make new friends, learn more about cars, got valuable tips and trades about gaga. to unker YAB, tq very much for your gaga tutoring. feeling like a boy get to meet Leona Chin or even greater. can't describe it. but seriously hard to adjust to real unker driving actually. last time back home from TT, watched your sawi passed by while me unker driving makes me like wanna cry don't want to unker driving. hehe. |
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Nov 5 2012, 01:07 AM
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I'm surprised the foreman dint recommend you to hit a tree in order to stop the car faster.
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Nov 5 2012, 01:32 AM
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QUOTE(Maxwell6635 @ Nov 5 2012, 12:02 AM) haha....how u know gerr..^^...no la he just disable it...can able it again ...just remove the fuse... Did u studied mann..? In what course? If not in engineering also, it can be logically thinking that that thing ABS is important system if not then why nowdays cars manufacturer want to equip their car with it... Dont know what can i say anymore.. just this.. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Nov 5 2012, 08:39 AM
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Hi!
Juz 2wish everyone "Good Morning & hv a great week ahead"!! |
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Nov 5 2012, 08:44 AM
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saw my review about midnight run with YAB.
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Nov 5 2012, 08:55 AM
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Nov 5 2012, 08:44 AM) Which part make you sweat wor Nicksomethingkenotremember Iskazulka Dares Koh424 Kenjilew R3apers Lhwj Ibnuasad C2kbus2005 Jceh83 Kinda reminds me the first time midnight run with lhwj |
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Nov 5 2012, 09:03 AM
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Nov 5 2012, 09:55 AM) Which part make you sweat wor QUOTE to unker YAB, tq very much for your gaga tutoring. feeling like a boy get to meet Leona Chin or even greater. trololololol. Added on November 5, 2012, 9:04 ammidnight run bulk!!!! This post has been edited by iskazulka: Nov 5 2012, 09:04 AM |
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