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 Genneva Malaysia V3, Raided on 1st Oct 2012.

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post Nov 1 2012, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(MakNok @ Nov 1 2012, 05:14 PM)
you are wrong on "Chinese Scam Conspiracy" ...please see bolded RED!

Mahathir is launching "Syariah Compliant" event...so it is to lure the "Malays" to invest.

Remember..Lampeberger!!!
It started with chinese..then indian and finally Malays.

I believe Genneva is running out of Chinese Investors and using "Syariah Compliant" concept to lure the "Malays", since "Bestino" have taken most of "Indian" investors already.

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post Nov 1 2012, 08:35 PM

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still denying... owh.. how cute

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Genneva Malaysia Supporters Yes ma'am. We've read that article too. But do you see this open letter in any other media? What about balance? BTW, I am not Pat Lu. Promise. You know who I am smile.gif

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post Nov 1 2012, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Nov 1 2012, 09:08 AM)
If you read all tipuism post, he just go and troll in every single thread. He even to troll in Christianity thread. LOL.

Anyway, the truth already out. BNM say liability more than asset. Money not enough to return to customer. Gone case already.  nod.gif
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if u said like that, all bank also gone case lah... malaysia national debt level also gone case lah... what's the different? doh.gif
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Genneva: From RM3billion in investments to RM1million cash

Source: http://forum.numyx.com/Thread-genneva-from...rm1million-cash

Something worth reading, Genneva supporter or not.
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post Nov 1 2012, 09:26 PM

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Genneva consultants said they are merely in the gold trading business. But funny thing is the gold need to be return to the company in order to get 'discount'. If you buy gold you can't get gold directly and in this period you just hold the paper like banks paper gold account. Which means that they are selling physical gold + paper gold. This is the reason why many people does not able to get gold although they keep emphasize about their nature of business.

So Pat Lu critic their competitors. Instead of direct competitors, she critic goldsmith shops and banks. I dunno why.
I believe there is no direct affect to the goldsmith shops if you view their annual reports. Revenue and profits incrased by 20-33% last year. The highest since listed I believe.
http://www.tomei.com.my/en/annual_report.htm
http://www.pohkong.com.my/investor/financi...nformation.html

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post Nov 1 2012, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(hackwire @ Nov 1 2012, 09:20 PM)
if u said like that, all bank also gone case lah... malaysia national debt level also gone case lah... what's the different? doh.gif
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Bank generate income. Malaysia also generate income.

Genneva sell gold and buy back gold at same price. Then give 24% hibah. The next question is:-
a) are you %|%^~{%^ to compare Genneva with bank and country?
b) are you related to Genneva?
c) are you trolling?

This post has been edited by gogo2: Nov 1 2012, 09:37 PM
terry8
post Nov 1 2012, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Nov 1 2012, 01:57 PM)
erm.. i not sure of this example ... any drug even approved by MOH and legal still can be poisonous if its not used properly. like panadol, approved, legal, but eat 50 tablets still will be poisoned...
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What I meant by the example is that even though the buyer willingly bought from the seller, it can still be illegal because the role of the government is to protect the consumer
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post Nov 1 2012, 10:34 PM

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Can Geneva be classified as a true gold trader?
Normal process of buying and selling, I pay rm200 I get gold and I go home and put in my safe
From what I read customer pay rm200 and get a cert after a while they get the gold sounds like a option style trading
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post Nov 1 2012, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(terry8 @ Nov 1 2012, 10:29 PM)
What I meant by the example is that even though the buyer willingly bought from the seller, it can still be illegal because the role of the government is to protect the consumer
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in that case unless its some illegal pawn shop or gold smith who sells illegal stuff didnt actually include that when tipuism ask bout goldsmith vs genneva
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QUOTE(hackwire @ Nov 1 2012, 09:20 PM)
if u said like that, all bank also gone case lah... malaysia national debt level also gone case lah... what's the different? doh.gif
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Even if all these you mention above happens it still does not justify investing in a PONZI scheme such as GM
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post Nov 1 2012, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(sam sam @ Nov 1 2012, 10:34 PM)
Can Geneva be classified as a true gold trader?
Normal process of buying and selling, I pay rm200 I get gold and I go home and put in my safe
From what I read customer pay rm200 and get a cert after a while they get the gold sounds like a option style trading
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the gold bullion are about to send out to customers!!! but BNM raided it!!!! damn BNM perompak!!!!
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post Nov 1 2012, 11:27 PM

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Salam 1 Genneva ,
Saya percaya situasi kewangan kebanyakan warga genneva yang menanti pembayaran hibah/komisen dan kebimbangan samada kita akan mendapat semula emas yang telah dibeli banyak memberi tekanan kuat kepada kehidupan seharian kita semua sejak 1hb Oktober lalu. Hidup kita menjadi terumbang ambing seperti dibadai ombak besar & ramai juga telah mula hilang pertimbangan mencari jalan untuk teruskan kehidupan yang amat sukar dimasa ini.
So this guy in the facebook have committed Genneva not merely gold trading but with return.
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post Nov 1 2012, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(hackwire @ Nov 1 2012, 09:20 PM)
if u said like that, all bank also gone case lah... malaysia national debt level also gone case lah... what's the different? doh.gif
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Your answer can be found easily in many economics books. Too simple to explain.

USA's national debt is damp huge ($16,000,000,000,000), and yet their bonds are so demanding. Why? Theoritically, someone owe so huge debt, everybody is scared to loan him money, right!

Take one simple example to understand the situation - Every legal copy of Microsoft Windows sold, there is a percentage being taxed directly or indirectly by US goverment regardless where it was sold.

How many MS windows are running in this planet? How many new MS windows are installed everyday in this planet?

US government has so many world class products - Apple, Windows, GE, GM, Lockhead Martin, damp long this list. Everyday, these products are sending back their money to US goverment's pocket.

Malaysia mah! not too bad, Najib said we found a new oil well. why so worry?

Tell me - what is the product of Genneva? If you say - gold. Than, maybe, this subject is little tough for you to chew.
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post Nov 1 2012, 11:52 PM

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Pat Lu, its obvious that you're the Page Admin. I'm no Sherlock Homes but a smiley after every sentence by the Page and Pat Lu. Even the way you talk are the same. Haha!
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QUOTE(hackwire @ Nov 1 2012, 09:20 PM)
if u said like that, all bank also gone case lah... malaysia national debt level also gone case lah... what's the different? doh.gif
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Have you ever studied accounting? Do you know what a balance sheet is? Do some research before we take this any further, else you're just wasting everyone's time.
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Nov 1 2012, 11:52 PM)
Chae Yeon Lee
Pat Lu, its obvious that you're the Page Admin. I'm no Sherlock Homes but a smiley after every sentence by the Page and Pat Lu. Even the way you talk are the same. Haha!
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Ah... it the same as*hole...a sicko that never change her tune.

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post Nov 2 2012, 02:24 AM

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BNM actually lifted GM from blacklist. Does that mean we can invest and get paid 3% per month. If yes, I gonna loan 1 billion dollars from bank and get rich asap.
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QUOTE(Selectt @ Nov 2 2012, 02:24 AM)
BNM actually lifted GM from blacklist. Does that mean we can invest and get paid 3% per month. If yes, I gonna loan 1 billion dollars from bank and get rich asap.
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Why stop at 1 billion...gonna make mine a 1 trillion loan and goyang kaki with GM.
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QUOTE(KentPhan @ Nov 1 2012, 11:49 PM)


Tell me - what is the product of Genneva? If you say - gold. Than, maybe, this subject is little tough for you to chew.
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Actually Genneva has NO product..........they dont Produce anything xcept some sort of trading service.

Maybe VIRTUAL gold at best. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Selectt @ Nov 2 2012, 02:24 AM)
BNM actually lifted GM from blacklist. Does that mean we can invest and get paid 3% per month. If yes, I gonna loan 1 billion dollars from bank and get rich asap.
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And to the investigation list...

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