I tot the tall black fellaz.......sitting next to Grimmjaw...

My eyesight not that good as yours...hjahahaha

Wiki did say 9guys and 1 girl. And she does look like female.

eh now it make sense why uruhara cant enter SS...
vaizards cant enter SS after all rite...
coem to think bout it that is...

If you look at that flyover,it shows Aizen first then Tousen and Gin then the rest of the Espadas.Like the SS flyover,it shows the first division captain first,then the rest of the division captains by number.Wont the same thing apply for the Espadas,and showing the Espadas rank though Ulquiorra and Grimmjaw show up first.

nah Vaizards Can enter SS just that I suspect Uruhara did something to his body that he cant enter that's all..

I'm wondering where are the other Hollows like Vastro lorde and Adjhucas. None have yet to make a Appearence before at All. Coz I believe None of the Espadas are Vastro Lorde and Adjhucas only Gillians. then again maybe one of them is Adjhucas.

and I'm curious Shirosaki is Adjhucas or Vastro lorde....coz the other Vaizards might be Gillians and Adjhucas as well. I meant thier hollows.

This post has been edited by Snake'eyes: Apr 18 2007, 09:36 PM

urahara can't enter SS because:
- he's currently in a gigai
- he was exiled from SS

IMO, Adjhucas and Vastro lorde are a kind/type/form. Vastro Lorde which is near to a human form, eg : ulquiorra, grimjaw.

Adjhucas --> Yami.

Dont bother too much what hitsugaya said, which Vastro Lorde battle power surpasses a captain's battle power.

Weren't the current Espadas artificially made by aizen therefore they're aren't from an origin form or type.

This post has been edited by SilverCrimz: Apr 18 2007, 10:23 PM

I didnt get any info about Aizen artificially made espada. I know he transform a hollow via hogyoku to an arrancar.

You are confuse.

First of all, you need to know the difference between Vaizards and Arrancars. Both of them are hybrids, half hollow and half shinigami.

Arrancars - a former hollow who had their mask removed to obtain shinigami's power.

Vaizards - ex-shinigamis who obtained hollow's power, which is forbidden in soul society. So u can say, that each of them may haf a hollow spirit within them, just like ichigo and his hollow inside him.

Vasto Lorde and Adjhucas are stronger Menos Grande. Aizen made contact with them, and use the hougyoku to remove their mask and let them obtain their shinigami powers.

In my opinion, NO Vaizards are previously hollows.

nah i aint confuse at all. U confuse my post that's all. I do know the diffrence btw Arrancars/Vaizards and the fact Vasto Lorde & Adjhucs are stonger then Menos(Soldiers). But Aizen didnt really made contact with Vasto Lorde & Adjhucas, at least not in the manga. Only mention by Hitsugaya that possibly he did which ponders me the Espadas what Level hollow are they. Get it?

And as Hitsugaya mention there 3 Levels From Menos Grande(soldiers) to Adjhcus and lastly Vasto Lorde.

I didnt say ALL Vaizards are previously Hollows. LOL. I was asking what type/level of Hollows does the Vaizards has themseleves. Just as Shirosaki, what type/level of Hollow is he in Ichigo's body LOL.

In my POV, I think a Vasto Lorde doesnt even need Aizen's help to unmask him to become a Arrancar, coz even without it he is far more powerfull then a Arrancar that obtains shinigami's power.

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Added on April 19, 2007, 2:59 amjust to remind u there is a Big diffrence btw Hollows and Arrancars. So dont get mix up with Arrancars like ulquiorra, grimjaw with a Hollow level Vasto Lorde.



This post has been edited by Snake'eyes: Apr 19 2007, 03:01 AM

Let me reply this quote again, I didnt read it properly last time.

I think explained about it last time, but oh well.

Gillians are the lowest of all menos, Adjhucas is on 2nd while Vastro lorde is the strongest of all Menos I did not use arrancar


And you seriously have mistaken about Gillians.

Gillians is the one that ichigo first fought when he just obtain his shinigami power, and he fought it with Ishida(when ichigo and ishida are still Real enemy). And Gillians are also the ones that save/took Aizen, Ichimaru, and Tousen from SS. They are just a foot soldier. Not worth to be transfer to an arrancar.

I'm very well aware of that thank you very much.
There is sense in what you are implying. You think that Vastro Lorde is far superior than Arrancar? or even Espada?

Well in my POV, Aizen found those Vasto Lorde, Adjhucas and use the Hogyoku on them. Thus resulting in more powerful being? Gillians are useless, they are slow, with the intelligence next to zero, would it be a good idea to transform them into arrancar? waste of time doesn't it? Once the Hogyoku have already been used, it needs to be recharge or something, that what or maybe orihime are there for.

What do you mean by Espadas are only consist of Gillians?? He said he is the only one lol

Maybe Vastro Lorde is stronger than average arrancar but I doubt that they can win against those Espada. (I personally think that ulquiorra and grimjaw are some of the Vastro Lorde that have been tranformed to arrancar in the Espada rank)
I might be wrong but lets see where the series bring us..

This post has been edited by Demonic Wrath: Apr 19 2007, 12:11 PM

fuiyooo.....she has the body figure....

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Added on April 19, 2007, 11:40 amGxen spoke the correct fact about the vasto lorde thingy.....ulqiorra, grimmjaw and some of them were vasto lorde b4 that and Aizen later then use Hogkouyu to transform them into arrancar and they were categorized as espanda under aizen region....espanda is just a like "13 squad gotei captain" from shinigami....

very easy
13 squad gotei captain = shinigami
espanda = arrancar

about the espanda no 9 rank....he was gillian b4 that and he was the rare species among gillian where he has the ability to absorb a person's skill , memory, etc...maybe 1/1000000 gillian ables to catch Aizen attention and brought into arrancar.....and I think there will someone will replace espanda no 9 rank later

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Added on April 19, 2007, 11:48 amand to again add the truth....hollow doesn't talk....

vasto lorde, adjuncas, gillian all cannot talk bcoz their mask cover their face.....

after Aizen transformed them into arrancar.....they finally can talk bcoz Aizen removes their mask already....hohohoho

This post has been edited by eric84cool: Apr 19 2007, 11:48 AM

Oh, forgot about noveno espada. Yeah, it says so he is the only one. I should have said most Gillians are useless, only a bunch of them are not.

I disagree with Snake'eyes because he says Espada only consist of lowly hollows like gillians. I wonder how 1 gillian in Espada becomes the majority lol.

Anyway none of us here is correct 100% as long as the manga haven't finish..(who knows if there is any other surprises )

So noveno is the only Gillian that manage to become an Espada

My guess is that other Espadas are from Vasto Lorde while Yami from Adjhucas due to his size. Just like Grand Fisher, he is an Arrancar from Adjhucas right? Correct me if I'm wrong

My POV is from their body size. Other Espadas are most likely like a mere human, with having almost same size and face like humans do, which is what Vasto Lorde is right?

Noveno espada had the same size as a human, but he is not a vasto lorde, wonder why? It might be because his release form shows that he had the figure of a gillian, thus resulting... he is Gillian

IMO, Grand Fisher is not even in the Menos Grande system. Just a normal hollow that pulls off his mask.

who is noveno?

The ninth and got killed by Rukia...