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rainmankl
post Sep 3 2012, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(fredolim @ Aug 27 2012, 12:10 PM)
A recognized degree opens the 1st door, whether or not my kid makes it past 2nd and subsequent doors later his work life is really up to him and his own capability. Unless there is a paradigm shift in the policy whereby education quality is being regulated and emphasis is placed on quality, skills and academic rigours over short cut pathways, profit maximization and titles collection, I'm afraid we will continue to get stuck in this rut.
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Hai Fredolim,

I just just gone thru your posting again.I realise that your eldest kid did a diploma and then a advance diploma (advance ??) , in engineering.

Correct me if I am wrong.
1 . Normally from a diploma from TARC , you move to a degree oversea for a year because of all the 3 year diploma ( exemption given ).
There should not be a advance diploma.
During late 70's , my classmate with MCE can only do certificate in engineering. Diploma needs HSC\A level.
How come your kid can do diploma with SPM (SPM?????????????).
My friend quit even after paying contribution fees.
2 . I have mention in previous post that most diploma candidate in TARC will have taken and past all\final
papers for the CEI ( now Engineering Council, UK). They will qualified to register as chartered engineer , UK
after a few years of working experience , our IEM\BEM will have to recognized them as such.

That is why I mention the engineering course in TARC are good quality.Imagine HSC (now STPM ) and A level
students ( university grade candidates ) only can take the diploma.

How come your kid did not take\pass all the EC papers during TARC time with all the tutoring available?
Waiting for your clarification

Is it because their standard have drop ??

I might sent my kid there too so I also start worry now.


Added on September 3, 2012, 6:45 pm
QUOTE(crunchypop60s @ Aug 25 2012, 03:54 AM)
how about Unikl??
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Normally if I am time and access ( all teen have that nowaday (internet) , not like 30 years ago,
you should check out
1 . How long it was established.
2 . All professors and lecturers' academic qualification
3 . Place ( eg conducive for study,etc )

That would be the minimum

This post has been edited by rainmankl: Sep 3 2012, 06:45 PM
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post Sep 3 2012, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(rainmankl @ Sep 3 2012, 06:37 PM)
Hai Fredolim,

I just just gone thru your posting again.I realise that your eldest kid did a diploma and then a advance diploma (advance ??) , in engineering.

Correct me if I am wrong.
1 . Normally from a diploma from TARC , you move to a degree oversea for a year because of all the 3 year  diploma ( exemption given ).
    There should not be a advance diploma.
    During late 70's , my classmate with MCE can only do certificate in engineering. Diploma needs HSC\A level.
    How come your kid can do diploma with SPM (SPM?????????????).
    My friend quit even after paying contribution fees.
2 . I have mention in previous post that most diploma candidate in TARC will have taken and past all\final
    papers for the CEI ( now Engineering Council, UK). They will qualified to register as chartered engineer , UK 
    after a  few years of working experience , our IEM\BEM will have to recognized them as such.
   
    That is why I mention the engineering course in TARC are good quality.Imagine HSC (now STPM ) and A level
    students ( university grade candidates ) only can take the diploma.

    How come your kid did not take\pass all the EC papers during TARC time with all the tutoring available?
    Waiting for your clarification

Is it because their standard have drop ??

I might sent my kid there too so I also start worry now.


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Nowadays, SPM can move on to diploma in Malaysia. It has become a norm. Unlike the good old days where HSC only can do diploma. Quality wise, i can safely conclude that standard has drop tremendously. It is my wish that my boy went on and get his degree, rather than just a diploma or advance diploma. Sad to say, TARC is unlike its old days really.

The so call EC paper as far as i understand, no longer apply to the diploma student, it is mostly for the Universities and university college. It is either your course is accredited by BEM or it is not. For diploma at TARC, it is not.
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post Sep 3 2012, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(fredolim @ Sep 3 2012, 08:09 PM)
Nowadays, SPM can move on to diploma in Malaysia. It has become a norm. Unlike the good old days where HSC only can do diploma. Quality wise, i can safely conclude that standard has drop tremendously. It is my wish that my boy went on and get his degree, rather than just a diploma or advance diploma.  Sad to say, TARC is unlike its old days really.

The so call EC paper as far as i understand, no longer apply to the diploma student, it is mostly for the Universities and university college. It is either your course is accredited by BEM or it is not. For diploma at TARC, it is not.
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During the 70s and 80s , a MCE is qualified to take diploma at most private colleges like Jaya Institute,Mega Institute,FIT if I remember correctly, BUT not TARC( refer to my classmate above).
I don't know since when they drop the entrance standard.

Due to the TARC diploma is NOT recognized at that time and therefore cannot enter the public services as technical assistant and also they cannot award degree therefore the students are all encouraged to go the EC route and get register as Chartered Engineer.

Most private\public University student do not (even back in the 70s until now ) sit or know about the EC route.
Because their degree is recognized so why bother.It cost money and not easy to pass.
They will have to compete with the WHOLE of the commonwealth countries including the best brain from India
,Hong Kong,Singapore,etc if they sit the EC exam.

Its open to everyone who do not go the easy way thru Univ. like having a unrecognized local diploma or even degree.

I remember I consult my college principal.He said there is an UNOFFICIAL quota for passing ie they restrict the number of passes each year so its difficult.He said the easiest route is still going to UK for a year or two.


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post Sep 4 2012, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(rainmankl @ Sep 3 2012, 11:26 PM)
During the 70s and 80s , a MCE is qualified to take diploma at most private colleges like Jaya Institute,Mega Institute,FIT if I remember correctly, BUT not TARC( refer to my classmate above).
I don't know since when they drop the entrance standard.

Due to the TARC diploma is NOT recognized at that time and therefore cannot enter the public services as technical assistant and also they cannot award degree therefore the students are all encouraged to go the EC route and get register as Chartered Engineer.

Most private\public University student do not (even back in the 70s until now ) sit or know about the EC route.
Because their degree is recognized so why bother.It cost money and not easy to pass.
They will have to compete with the WHOLE of the commonwealth countries including the best brain from India
,Hong Kong,Singapore,etc if they sit the EC exam.

Its open to everyone who do not go the easy way thru Univ. like having a unrecognized local diploma or even degree.

I remember I consult my college principal.He said there is an UNOFFICIAL quota for passing ie they restrict the number of passes each year so its difficult.He said the easiest route is still going to UK for a year or two.
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Yeah that sounds right. Now with a diploma, one can easily take the degree pathway after the diploma. Entrance standard been dropping all the way. With so many mickey mouse Universities, my favourite example would be Sheffield Hallam University, who would be willing to sacrafice standards by compacting and compressing the teaching and delivery time for the sake of profits, the only way forward is down the entry requirements to up the intake and profits.
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post Nov 11 2012, 10:44 PM

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MQA latest university ranking in Malaysia already out. Check this out to differentiate which university is good. http://www.mqa.gov.my/portal2012/SETARA11/...TORIAL%20BI.pdf
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May i know if JPA scholarship is still available know?
The last time i heard of it it's abolished, not sure if it's just a rumour.
Do they offer full scholarship for A-Levels?
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post Nov 23 2012, 12:17 AM

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The JPA scholarship is running as usual but they only cover the sponsorship at degree level. The pre-u level is basically covered by Kementerian Pelajaran Malaysia if you fulfill the criteria. Once completion of pre-u level, you may apply for JPA scholarship for the degree level sponsorship.

Good Luck.
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post Jan 8 2013, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(cloud_nine @ Dec 4 2012, 02:27 PM)
The JPA scholarship is running as usual but they only cover the sponsorship at degree level. The pre-u level is basically covered by Kementerian Pelajaran Malaysia if you fulfill the criteria. Once completion of pre-u level, you may apply for JPA scholarship for the degree level sponsorship.

Good Luck.
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Oh god! Not even Korean programme for Engineering? *sobs* How am I gonna get a scholarship?
Any ideas? I can't ask from MARA anymore due to my family background.
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post Feb 21 2013, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(fredolim @ Sep 3 2012, 08:09 PM)
Nowadays, SPM can move on to diploma in Malaysia. It has become a norm. Unlike the good old days where HSC only can do diploma. Quality wise, i can safely conclude that standard has drop tremendously. It is my wish that my boy went on and get his degree, rather than just a diploma or advance diploma.  Sad to say, TARC is unlike its old days really.

The so call EC paper as far as i understand, no longer apply to the diploma student, it is mostly for the Universities and university college. It is either your course is accredited by BEM or it is not. For diploma at TARC, it is not.
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FYI, all diploma are not accredited by BEM. You need to complete a 4 years B.Eng or M.Eng to be accredited by BEM.

I'm actually a graduate from TARC too but I did not continue their advance Diploma. Getting a 3 months Bachelor Degree in UK really sound too dodgy for me. But hey, a lot of my friend followed this route and found jobs.
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post Feb 26 2013, 11:52 AM

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Unfortunately, to judge which University or colleges in Malaysia means we've to used yardstick set by MOHE & MQA.

Although generally, if we're talking about Malaysian context, MQA ranking known as SETARA should give a pretty good picture.

At the end of the day, it is pretty subjective.
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post May 22 2013, 09:26 PM

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im sorry, just want to ask. if i get my a level. does mara or jpa accept those a level for scholarship to continue on degree?

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QUOTE(mfi.17 @ May 22 2013, 09:26 PM)
im sorry, just want to ask. if i get my a level. does mara or jpa accept those a level for scholarship to continue on degree?
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Yes, latest result. They might ask u to send in your 1st sem of your degree year results as well. Just to check if you are entering a degree course. Most important, JPA need to confirm wther or not you are a students doing a degree course.

Offer letter or verification letter as students is needed and have to be post to them
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post May 23 2013, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ May 22 2013, 11:11 PM)
Yes, latest result. They might ask u to send in your 1st sem of your degree year results as well. Just to check if you are entering a degree course. Most important, JPA need to confirm wther or not you are a students doing a degree course.

Offer letter or verification letter as students is needed and have to be post to them
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thanks man. actually i just finished my matriks and im sure not to get a decent result. i want to pursue my studies in civil engineering. so should i sit for the a level?
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QUOTE(mfi.17 @ May 23 2013, 09:41 AM)
thanks man. actually i just finished my matriks and im sure not to get a decent result. i want to pursue my studies in civil engineering. so should i sit for the a level?
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apply using your matrix results

if no university accept, then proceed with A-level
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Hello All,

I am just undecided should I register myself to this University called LINCOLN University at PJ.
My marks is bad so I cannot applied to TAYLOR/HELP without 1 year foundation again.

I filled up the enquiry form in the website and they offered me the course, Bachelor in Hospitality Management.
I check in MQA, the course I wanna enrol is not in the list. However, when I check on the LINCOLN website: http://www.lincoln.edu.my/programmetemplat...F1-09F78D4DE815
there is the code written: KPT/JPS(PA0794)01/17

What does the code means. It means this subjected is accredited right?Please correct me if I wrong.
I am confused. sad.gif

I never heard of this Uni before. How is the UNi, any ex students from this Uni. Mind to share.

I have a friend got JPA and being offered to study Pharmacy in this UNI.
Since JPA also offered to study at this UNI, so I assume this Uni is like UTAR,Taylor , etc.
Good reputation kind.

I ask around, no one seems to have infor about the UNI.
I am also confuse about the subject is it accredited or approved by LAN. As I plan to apply PTPTN loan.

Please help.
Anyone.

Thanks in advance. biggrin.gif


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Does JPA offer scholarship for postgraduates to further their studies to japan? If does, what's the minimum requirement for it? Which courses will they offered?
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QUOTE(kokwai4869 @ Jul 27 2013, 04:47 PM)
Does JPA offer scholarship for postgraduates to further their studies to japan? If does, what's the minimum requirement for it? Which courses will they offered?
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If I am not mistaken, JPA only covers for degree level. For postgraduate level, they cover until master level (not for Ph.D) and only if you are a JPA holder previously in degree. You could just give them JPA a call. The policies might have change again.

For scholarships to Japan, I have a friend for got a scholarship to Japan. I don't remember the name of the scholarship but most probably is this one.

http://www.my.emb-japan.go.jp/English/JIS/...scholarship.htm

When he applied, I remember it is quite troublesome. You have to have JLPT (dont know till what grad), the university over there has accepted you, and a series of interviews. Oh yea, limited to research only and not by taught course.

Good luck!
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post Jul 27 2013, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(alanchong88 @ Jul 27 2013, 08:36 PM)
If I am not mistaken, JPA only covers for degree level. For postgraduate level, they cover until master level (not for Ph.D) and only if you are a JPA holder previously in degree. You could just give them JPA a call. The policies might have change again.

For scholarships to Japan, I have a friend for got a scholarship to Japan. I don't remember the name of the scholarship but most probably is this one.

http://www.my.emb-japan.go.jp/English/JIS/...scholarship.htm

When he applied, I remember it is quite troublesome. You have to have JLPT (dont know till what grad), the university over there has accepted you, and a series of interviews. Oh yea, limited to research only and not by taught course.

Good luck!
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I've searched other topics regarding further studies to japan, and mostly they're recommending taking postgraduates there as the percentage of getting scholarship to study there will be much higher than the undergraduates. MEXT is another options for postgraduates to apply sponsorship. I heard they've dropped the quota for this year intake, MEXT already well-known for it's tough entrance examination. But still i hope to at least find more options to further my study there.

Just to be confirm, is the JPA just limit the applicants to only JPA scholars during their degree course? Or will it open to public either they're previously JPA scholars or not? Any other scholarships available right now?

Japanese Language-Proficiency Test (JLPT) as i know, must be at least N2 level, but from what i've heard and saw from the previous posts that i've seen, for postgraduates they aren't really necessary for them to actually get an N2 level unless they're taking the course in japanese language, else it will not needed to be.

Thanks for the info you've provided. ^^ really appreciated it. I've gain more knowledge and details on what should do next.

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From what I know and read (they posted the syarat in JPA website sometime ago), JPA scholarship for postgrad level is limited to undergraduate students who were JPA scholars and not for public. But pls check again by giving them a call. Who knows they suddenly open to public? haha

For scholarships, you could try surfing the webpage for japanese companies which are based in Malaysia. I know Panasonic has a scholarship to Japan. I am think other Japanese company might have it. In regards to Panasonic scholarship, the competition is very fierce and if really managed to get, you are really the best among the rest of the applicants.

However....do note that it takes quite a while to apply for postgraduate level scholarships to Japan. The interviews and results can span over half a year to 1 year. In the meanwhile, you have to get your JLPT to a certain level. Then write a research proposal and find a university that accepts you.

My friend who got the scholarship to Japan told me that JLPT is an added advantage in getting the scholarship. The interviewer told him that they do give extra marks if your JLPT level is high. Plus, I am pretty sure your future supervisor would prefer to communicate in Japanese rather than English as Japanese are very proud of their own language.

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