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DefxZ
post Jan 5 2011, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(exquisite_markas @ Jan 4 2011, 10:46 PM)
actually.. the accreditation is for a course in a particular uni.. not the whole uni..

since i m an engineering student.. i wil talk based on the engineering scenario..

if an engineering degree is not accreditated.. u kenot be known as a "engineer".. the highest post u can get is juz "officer".. this also means that ur salary will be lesser.. however.. this only happens when u work in d government sector.. private sectors.. i think they dun care much about this accreditation thing..

also.. for engineering degrees without accreditation.. the board of engineers malaysia wil not allow u to register as their member.. thus.. u will nt be known as a "graduate engineer" and u cant practise any engineering work..

these situations are applicable to most professional degrees.. like law.. accounting.. and medicine..

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post Jan 5 2011, 11:44 PM

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hi DefxZ..

good to know it helped..

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post Jan 6 2011, 10:16 PM

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Well I'm a novice to forums and have just established my account moments ago. And I'm desperately in need of help! icon_question.gif icon_question.gif

Above all, I intend to enroll in the American Degree Program (ADP) offered by Segi College in affiliation with Upper Iowa University (UIU), probably majoring in Communication or Marketing, due to its more affordable course fee and the course consultant's pledge in assisting students to secure a PTPTN loan, provided that I register really soon for the March intake, which will commence on the 14th of March 2011. Somehow I have a few doubts and I would appreciate your kind feedback regarding my few concern. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

Firstly, how long have Segi been conducting the ADP and is it well-recognized in Malaysia or even in the US? Do we have to check with the US embassy regarding the recognition of our respective programs?

Secondly, I would most probably enroll at Segi's KL campus due to its accessibility from my residence. Thus, I'm eager to know more about the facilities, campus surroundings, management and most importantly, the quality of the lecturers. Are they helpful enough and passionate in carrying out their respective responsibilities? And how packed is a class? Will every student obtain adequate attention from the lecturers?

Thirdly, the indicative course fees for the ADP at Segi are way more lower if compared to other prominent academic institutions on the same program. For instance, a single major with 40 subjects will cost you RM49,000 tuition+exam fees whereas a double major with 45 subjects will cost you RM55,000 tuition+exam fees. It might cost you even more, even for just a homegrown degree program at other institutions. Hence, what's the contributing factor for Segi's lower course fees? Is it the same education quality, facility or even recognition we're benefiting from?

Fourthly, the ADP is a 4+0 program (the students, however, may transfer to UIU at any stage) which is different from the 2+2 program offered by most of the other institutions. Undeniably, this induced ADP to be more affordable and appeals more to students from humble financial background like I do. But still, is it the same education quality we're dealing with?

Fifthly, they don't actually carry out internships as part of the program, do they?

Sixthly, I had seen some bad remarks about Segi on this forum, but most of them were posted rather long ago. Thus, how true are the remarks and has Segi improve itself, in terms like campus facilities, management, qualifications of lecturers and the like?


Lastly, do tell me more about ADP's which are affordable but don't compromise on quality of every aspects. Also, I would be glad to know more about Segi, KL campus especially. Besides, I would also be more than pleased to hear from ex-students who graduated from this program regarding all the questions raised above.
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Please and thank you.

You won't know how much your feedback would mean to me. And I would like to express my sincerest gratitude and appreciation in advance! wink.gif
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post Jan 8 2011, 06:37 PM

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hi knight in shining armor..

u wrote an essay up thr.. n u expect ppl to read..?

plz KISS when u post.. (KISS = keep it short and simple)

cheers~
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post Feb 26 2011, 04:07 AM

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if i may add, previously accreditation body called LAN is now known as MQA is in charge to give accreditation to education institution (Uni,uni college...) . As for engineering, EAC (Eng Accreditation Council)will have full control (but still is under the MQA) to give accreditation.

click here for more info

Engineering Accreditation Council Malaysia

List Of Accredited Engineering Programme in Malaysia

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QUOTE(knight in shining armor @ Jan 6 2011, 10:16 PM)
Well I'm a novice to forums and have just established my account moments ago. And I'm desperately in need of help!  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif

Above all, I intend to enroll in the American Degree Program (ADP) offered by Segi College in affiliation with Upper Iowa University (UIU), probably majoring in Communication or Marketing, due to its more affordable course fee and the course consultant's pledge in assisting students to secure a PTPTN loan, provided that I register really soon for the March intake, which will commence on the 14th of March 2011. Somehow I have a few doubts and I would appreciate your kind feedback regarding my few concern. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif


You won't know how much your feedback would mean to me. And I would like to express my sincerest gratitude and appreciation in advance! wink.gif
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Try looking at NILAI UC OR INTI'S ADP PROGRAMS but I cannot say much about Segi .

For question 5, there are some universities in US that carry out internship for courses like marketing but it is rare

For more info visit these threads:
ADP Nilai
INTI Thread

Don't forget that if you are really interested you should visit MACEE and the American university fairs to get a good idea about education in America.
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post Apr 2 2011, 02:17 PM

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Hello i am having some doubts with the recognition and education quality of MBBS in Segi Uni. Can anyone help me pls? thanks =)
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post May 22 2011, 02:31 AM

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Which MBA should i go for ?

WIM for UEL MBA or UOW by Malvern International College ?

Thanks alot ^^ . Anyone currently studying at either one now ? What your comment ?
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post May 26 2011, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(knight in shining armor @ Jan 6 2011, 10:16 PM)
Well I'm a novice to forums and have just established my account moments ago. And I'm desperately in need of help!  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif

Above all, I intend to enroll in the American Degree Program (ADP) offered by Segi College in affiliation with Upper Iowa University (UIU), probably majoring in Communication or Marketing, due to its more affordable course fee and the course consultant's pledge in assisting students to secure a PTPTN loan, provided that I register really soon for the March intake, which will commence on the 14th of March 2011. Somehow I have a few doubts and I would appreciate your kind feedback regarding my few concern. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

Firstly, how long have Segi been conducting the ADP and is it well-recognized in Malaysia or even in the US? Do we have to check with the US embassy regarding the recognition of our respective programs?

Secondly, I would most probably enroll at Segi's KL campus due to its accessibility from my residence. Thus, I'm eager to know more about the facilities, campus surroundings, management and most importantly, the quality of the lecturers. Are they helpful enough and passionate in carrying out their respective responsibilities? And how packed is a class? Will every student obtain adequate attention from the lecturers?

Thirdly, the indicative course fees for the ADP at Segi are way more lower if compared to other prominent academic institutions on the same program. For instance, a single major with 40 subjects will cost you RM49,000 tuition+exam fees whereas a double major with 45 subjects will cost you RM55,000 tuition+exam fees. It might cost you even more, even for just a homegrown degree program at other institutions. Hence, what's the contributing factor for Segi's lower course fees? Is it the same education quality, facility or even recognition we're benefiting from?

Fourthly, the ADP is a 4+0 program (the students, however, may transfer to UIU at any stage) which is different from the 2+2 program offered by most of the other institutions. Undeniably, this induced ADP to be more affordable and appeals more to students from humble financial background like I do. But still, is it the same education quality we're dealing with?

Fifthly, they don't actually carry out internships as part of the program, do they?

Sixthly, I had seen some bad remarks about Segi on this forum, but most of them were posted rather long ago. Thus, how true are the remarks and has Segi improve itself, in terms like campus facilities, management, qualifications of lecturers and the like?
Lastly, do tell me more about ADP's which are affordable but don't compromise on quality of every aspects. Also, I would be glad to know more about Segi, KL campus especially. Besides, I would also be more than pleased to hear from ex-students who graduated from this program regarding all the questions raised above.
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Please and thank you.

You won't know how much your feedback would mean to me. And I would like to express my sincerest gratitude and appreciation in advance! wink.gif
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Ok, in terms of facilities: There are vast improvements. If you need something that the college doesn't have, please let the lecturere/tutor know. Ask them to make a formal request to the managaement. (I havedone this with a good success rate).

About your ADP program: It is best for you to come by the KL campus & speak to a counsellor. I know sometimes they might not be of much help, and if you feel that way, request to speak with the program co-ordinator or one of the lecturers who teaches any subject that is part of your course. Best way to get an in-depth explanation.

Internships: again, you should consult the counsellor, and get them to provide you with the list of subjects offered per semester. Usually if there is need for an internship/industrial training it will be stated on the brochures.

The Segi KL campus is very accessible. Facilities wise it used to be so-so, but having said that, there have been TONNES of improvement.

In terms of quality, it also depends on you as a student. If you have a bad attitude/ love to do last minute work/ think research & referencing are not important, be prepared to get told off. A lot.

It solely depends on you & your budget. If unsure, I suggest you check the MQA website. Hope that helps.
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post May 26 2011, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(leapordsang @ Mar 6 2009, 12:54 AM)
yes.provided that your masters sponsor or you yourself tell them to release you.
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Ohhh. Let's say i'm offered by jpa to do a degree in accounting in a local U. Can i further my studies by taking post graduate first before i start to serve the government? Or must i serve right aaway after my degree?

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QUOTE(embrace tomorrow @ May 26 2011, 09:45 PM)
Ohhh. Let's say i'm offered by jpa to do a degree in accounting in a local U. Can i further my studies by taking post graduate first before i start to serve the government? Or must i serve right aaway after my degree?
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If JPA call you to go to work, then you go and work. It's as simple as that.
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post May 28 2011, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(embrace tomorrow @ May 26 2011, 09:45 PM)
Ohhh. Let's say i'm offered by jpa to do a degree in accounting in a local U. Can i further my studies by taking post graduate first before i start to serve the government? Or must i serve right aaway after my degree?
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Hypothetically, at the end of your accounting course you could submit an application informing JPA that you wish to take post grad studies. You would need to produce some application info for the post grad course and the offer letter. Then they might approve your application.

A big part of the reason this is possible, is that there are so many people applying for jobs in the govt service. Easy job, maybe. Glamour, no. But that doesn't stop many people from applying. The supply is so high, I don't think they will be reluctant to let you go.

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QUOTE(embrace tomorrow @ May 26 2011, 09:45 PM)
Ohhh. Let's say i'm offered by jpa to do a degree in accounting in a local U. Can i further my studies by taking post graduate first before i start to serve the government? Or must i serve right aaway after my degree?
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Don't worry .. even after years, a lot of my JPA friends still not got called to serve the government. And they are happily served the MNC with higher salary that equal or more to Gred 48 ... brows.gif
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QUOTE(Irzani @ May 28 2011, 09:01 PM)
Don't worry .. even after years, a lot of my JPA friends still not got called to serve the government. And they are happily served the MNC with higher salary that equal or more to Gred 48 ...  brows.gif
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my brother is JPA sponsored studying at germany in engineering
after 7years study, he straight away working there...and JPA doesnt even called him for a job..
and now..seem like he want to stay there forever sad.gif
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what's the minimum requirement(spm result) to acquire a JPA scholarship?
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ive already registered in inti for the bachelor of commerce, the one which the collaborate with wollongong uni. however, i just found out bout all these and its so scary cause im planning to apply for ptptn. when i spoke to someone from the programme(she does looks very professional), she said by next feb i should be able to apply for ptptn. ive read through almost 10 pages and all mentioned that it'll take a long time for the mqa to approves if its a new subjects offered. however, i believe commerce(finance and economics) have been around for a long time and does it still take such a long time to be accredited. even if the mqa approved with minimal standard, i should be able to get ptptn right? and how long does that take?
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ive already registered in inti for the bachelor of commerce, the one which the collaborate with wollongong uni. however, i just found out bout all these and its so scary cause im planning to apply for ptptn. when i spoke to someone from the programme(she does looks very professional), she said by next feb i should be able to apply for ptptn. ive read through almost 10 pages and all mentioned that it'll take a long time for the mqa to approves if its a new subjects offered. however, i believe commerce(finance and economics) have been around for a long time and does it still take such a long time to be accredited. even if the mqa approved with minimal standard, i should be able to get ptptn right? and how long does that take?
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Partial MQA accreditation is required by the programme before PTPTN loan can be given to students.
How long that will take will be how long the institution and programme can satisfy the requirements by MQA and after waiting for MQA to send people to asses the programme. You can kinda know the chances of it happening or not by looking at the past
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QUOTE(Hikari0307 @ Jul 17 2011, 07:40 PM)
Partial MQA accreditation is required by the programme before PTPTN loan can be given to students.
How long that will take will be how long the institution and programme can satisfy the requirements by MQA and after waiting for MQA to send people to asses the programme. You can kinda know the chances of it happening or not by looking at the past
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Looking at the past? Means?
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QUOTE(davidnedved @ Jun 19 2011, 12:14 PM)
what's the minimum requirement(spm result) to acquire a JPA scholarship?
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the requirement you cn check at the official website, it is very easy to apply..and sometime quite easy to got it. smile.gif


Added on August 1, 2011, 10:46 am
QUOTE(waQ @ Jun 10 2011, 01:59 PM)
my brother is JPA sponsored studying at germany in engineering
after 7years study, he straight away working there...and JPA doesnt even called him for a job..
and now..seem like he want to stay there forever sad.gif
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wah, your brother is so lucky...I already got letter notification to apply for job...
This is the procedure, after apply, if after half year, not get respond from government, can apply to terminated the bond... biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by classybeauty: Aug 1 2011, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE(Tsukasa @ May 22 2011, 02:31 AM)
Which MBA should i go for ?

WIM for UEL MBA or UOW by Malvern International College ?

Thanks alot ^^ . Anyone currently studying at either one now ? What your comment ?
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You should try local university,cheaper with same quality. R u working adult? If yes, then should go for local university mah.

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