FIRST STEP in joining in oNg requires you to initially determine that your life is your work

live in offshore for a long time...far form your love ones and your fun life

but that takes around 5-6 years..after that you probally be in managerial level...it depends though on your performance

Mechanical Engineer usually dealing with manufacturing, production, maintenance, facilities, equipment or anything got to do with physical. Basically anything except computer language programming, circuit board design etc, mechanical engineer can jump in. But i warn you, it is not as fun as you think to do mechanical engineering thing, especially when come to machineries, all the boys (including me) will start to think engine, turbo, stuffs like that. in the end, you will no way near those things that you think it is fun at the first place. Mechanical engineering is very strong on their physic, materials, force, fluid mechanics, dynamic force, thermodynamic, energy calculation, production calculation. So lets say you are at production field in essambly department, the ppl usually will just throw at you the productions' problems, you yourself got to go and figure it out the root cause of problem, correction solution provided and every single thing that you talk need to backup with facts, data, and results. Basically, you need to do every single things, from the start until the end with the exactly estimated answer. If anything gone wrong in between, your arse will be the one they going after. So you can imagine, if you at the field where you not familiar with or have never encounter before like oil rig, air plane, or marine ship. Every single time before you open up your mouth to talk or suggest, you better think deep deep in your head with the support of your engineering knowledge and calculation. Or else..... hihi

I hope you guys understand what is mechanical engineering like even through i only as a production engineer in the company that manufacture small and highly precise product. You have no idea that the one small thing can bring you so many headache. So imagine the thing that you dealing with cost a lot of money like millions.

Apologies, my bad... I'm in upstream, and I can't remember any chem science degree holders here. We do have chemists, but those are usually diploma holders only. Maybe someone in downstream could advise.

As for the comment on mech eng, yes, in general they have about the right foundation subjects to work in O&G and are very flexible. In operations, they can fit into facilities/production eng, material/corrosion control eng, rotating equipment eng... if in projects, they can be structural eng, piping eng, and also rotating equipment eng... a little bit of training would allow them to go into reservoir management since they already have fluid dyn.

Remember, the degree is more of a key to get in. Once you're in, it's the people management and troubleshooting skills that will bring you further.

Important point by iDk is that most of the engineers hired in multinationals do not 'invent' things, rather 'engineer' things to keep things under control and running, usually by troubleshooting an existing set of products/equipment. When we 'design' a facility, it actually means sizing the equipment needed to run the facility safely and buy componenets from the manufacturers, kinda like Williams building their formula 1 car. If you want to make new products that serve O&G, then you probably need to join the vendor companies supporting the O&G industries. Sadly, the vendor companies in M'sia are usually agents for foreign companies, and engineers serving them are usually support/maintenance engineers, not design engineers. I can count with my fingers how many 'original' M'sian O&G product companies that design and make their own products.

hoho..i think i get it now..
mechanical engineering hav wider chance to get into ong companies..
i think i would choose downstream...downstream also need offshore de ar?..
i heard some of my frens say..working offshore is something like work for 15days offshore,then holiday 15days?..is it like this?..
correct me if i'm wrong...

downstream where got offshore, you will expected to work at terminals or processing plant.
sort of kerja kilang....mostly in shift also but not as ling as shift offshore.

Design something out usually is not malaysian engineer job, i believe we dont really have the qualification to do that. Most of the time, the design or R&D parts are carried out by foreign engineer from the other side of the world. But sometimes, i still find out that their designs are not actually perfect, in deed got quite a lot need to be improve. That's why we are need to give them back the feedback of their equipment and they will send back an improved one. But there is also sometimes they just ignore your complain and we need to modify things ourself.

I'm a mechanical eng in final sem yet I dunno where I should start looking for jobs in the O&G industry, any suggestion from all the sifu here? I've try rigzone, but job in Malaysia only got 22 posting... sigh

Yep, very true. Nearly 95% of componenets (valves, pressure relief valves, controllers, compressors, turbine engines, even pipes and fittings!) used in M'sia's O&G are not from M'sia. Lots of my O&G vendor friends are in the sad mode you just mentioned... ignored service engineers .

However, M'sia can already design out production facilities i.e. using off-the-market components, assemble them together in M'sia to make production facilities. In fact, the known design houses in M'sia like MMC, Ranhill, Technip, Bestwide, Kvaerner, and (M'sia's own) RNZ, not only design M'sian production facilities, but also international ones too.

HINT: Those whom want to be part of O&G design consultants, do a google search of the above companies and find out if they're hiring. Warning, if I become your client, I will show no quarters!!!

The lack of true M'sian O&G products is troubling. I mean, as a comparison (maybe a bad one), Proton use be an OEM for Mitsubishi. Some 20 year later it can already design out and manufacture its own cars. On the other hand, since the Petroleum Act (around 1970s I think), we can't even produce our own bloody pipes! If only Perwaja survived....

i can't agree more with you.. It's sad to see that even though the industry is booming in our country, not all of the benefit can be reap by Malaysian company in terms of product offered etc... mostly Malaysians company will be a representative for overseas Vendor trying to get into malaysian market with their products.. we still have a long way to go.. but we'll get there..

by the way, MMC is also malaysia's own company..

But i believe Malaysian is already able to do their own design and productions as there are a lot of talented Malaysian out there. The problem is that, they most properly will not stay at Malaysia and those big company have already put a hand on them. So the money is still the issue here at the end

This post has been edited by iDk: Dec 24 2007, 10:43 PM

1st try oil co like shell, chevron, talisman, aramco, petronas, murphy, hess, exxon etc.
if no luck u still can try oil services co like schlumberger, cggveritas, halliburton, fugro, geoservices, pgs, paradigm etc.
if still no luck can try local small2 co like crest, misc etc.
if u wanna fast development of ur career starts with small co then jump 2 big2 wan after 3-5 years. coz it's kinda hard 2 throttle ur way in big co during ur early career...
1 more thing, make sure u got 3 pointer & above & master english communication skills. ur luck is out there bro...

Thanks man, actually I just screwed up my shell recruitment day. I'm looking for source of oil service company listing which has a role in M'sia currently.

I'm PETRONAS scholar.just finish my study,currently waiting for my final exam result.people at KLCC already contact me.starting salary for engineer is RM2510.If work as Petroleum@Drilling ENgineer RM3500.Allowance is RM30/day at platform.This is consider very low compare to Service Company(Like SCOMI,SCHLUMBERGER,OPTIMAL) coz i heard they earn RM300/day for allowance.But PETRONAS is very good since it is the CLient.not much work to do and you can enjoy the salary that u earn.what point if your salary RM6000/m if u have to work hard since morning till night and no time to spend money that u earn.both have pros and cos i think..

farizuan, there isn't free lunch. Not all people get what they want in PCSB.
U don't know earn RM6k in SLB, fresh grad will be at least USD 4k.

Can't we say Ranhill Worleyparsons a local company too? At least it fulfill the requirement to be awarded contract from Petronas.
Btw, RWP is hiring Pipeline Engineer for the time being.

if i am not mistaken.. it depends actually.. if you are stationed at Malaysia.. they will pay you in our currency.. but still the are pay high la.. around 6k like that.. if you got overseas base.. there is where you will be paid in USD.. like you said at least 4k..

ask yourself, where in this world you get high pay and yet doing easy work and go back early?

As my senior said,at PETRONAS there will be not much stress compare with when u work with service company.If u work at KLCC u even can punch in at 8 am and return home at 6pm. but for sure it will not benifitial to your own future..

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Added on December 25, 2007, 6:28 pmThe 6000 figure i just simply put only.yes one of my fren already work with SLB.USD4900 for fresh grad and u will be travelling a lot.maybe go to Argentina.haha.

BTW allenultra,u come from UTP "toronto" is it..what batch?haha.just finish my study there.now no kerja liao

This post has been edited by farizuan: Dec 25 2007, 06:28 PM

That's why Petronas is not growing as fast as the other o&g company, that's the place for ppl to grow old and fat until retired. I hope you get what i mean. 8~6pm already very late? How about 8am~1am continuosly for a week or 2?

Off-topic, It is also the same syndrome which happen in our government.

lol..wad job can get usd 4900??
wad engineer is tat?..i like to travel,a lot..hahah..
i tot petronas is very good already..mana tahu got better company....