i have a few Q regarding the O&G industry

1. i'm currently doing my first degree in pure chemistry in the local U.
any chance for us (chemistry graduate(s)) to join the O&G industry?

2. Does it make any difference btw degree holder and master holder in term of their salaries and chances to join the O&G industry?

TQIA

for the last few weeks sea cond wave is up to 4.5 meters high, very dangerous for boat transfer.
I even have to go to remote jacked by chopper last trip.

wind speed varies from 10-30 knots

i'd like to join o&g too... want to give my family a good life...

3yrs+ experience...
java (1 1/2 yrs) & .net (1 1/2 yrs)

i know it's pretty limited for software engineers in o&g... but still i'd like to give it a try. tired of being underpaid.

if i were you i want to be a professional dj instead...hehee...nah joking coz i never into producing.

well, in o&g there are certain companies that gives underpaid salary to it's workers.
they only have interest to keep their geologist, scientist and the managers rather than the frontline workers.
i know they are the most important, but without the frontliners, money would not be pumping to their profits.
i am a mere control room operator offshore & our departments receives the most pressure regarding everyday output. people think that our job is easy by looking at the nature of it....but it's not likely. i rather choose instrumentation instead, lots of troubleshooting & problem solving. it only cost a level 3 in competency to be able to switch discipline.




my rants....

hmm... so that means IT jobs in o&g companies, may not necessary means better pay than inland jobs?

hii..i just finished my spm this year..n choosing my future now..
i would like some recommendations...on ong industry.,,
highly demanding job,big bucks...n etc..

n wad will happen to ong industry if 1 day the oil really runs out?

that will only happen in the next 50-60 years...

but got someone post malaysia will run out of oil by 2011 -.- ...
chemical engineer suit for wad job?...

this is quite true...not that im experiencing it myself, but people that i met working in the industry said the salary is cheap....no wonder many experienced workers cabut lari and go oversea where the pay is if im not mistaken.....as they said....the salaries they been paid for 5 years working at the old company is equivalent of only one year working oversea...hhmmm go figure....

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Added on December 19, 2007, 11:50 pmhehe if u want big money go open business lah...just kidding ....o & g is big business, but only if u r in a big company....i guess....

This post has been edited by gr8fr8: Dec 19 2007, 11:50 PM

i'm just want askin..right now i already complete my degree in marine science so what kind of post should i go for?

yeah really.....even if they dont go oversea, my seniors always aimed for better pay companies rather than now.
but of course with much considerations....if only salary is up a few hundreds from the current salary, they wont,

lol...
wondering how to become petroleum engineer?..
any1 can tell me?..i mean which course to be taken n..all so on..

mechanical engineering
chemical engineering
petroleum engineering
civil engineering

about other course, let others to answer it.

chemical then-->petroleum engineering?..
coz i read a course bout chemical engineering,the fourth year can learn bout petroleum processing.,.mean is chemical&petroleum engineer?..
got uni direct offer petroleum engineering de meh?..

UTP offers the course in petroleum engineering if I'm not mistaken. A friend cites that it's somewhat similar to the road taken as any chemical engineering course with a whole lot of emphasis put on petroleum. Actually, either way, you'd be a sought after commodity for oil and gas companies if you do well in either course, which chemical engineering giving you a wider spectrum of job selection. A friend of mine who studied geology secured a job at Carigali Petronas right after graduating from USM. So if chemistry isn't you're thing, perhaps you can consider geology as well.

heartbreakk, I would say depend what part of oil n gas u aiming for.

Upstream?
Downstream?

Chemical Engineering can involved in refinery, process, plant design, etc.
They can even work in drilling/reservoir if the company decide to take them.

btw moonstone13, chemical engineering isn't much about "chemistry" but physics yes.

And petroleum engineering in UTP, I see it more similiar to what mechanical engineering compared to Chemical Engineering.

EG, pipeline engineering. Civil/mechanical usually the one being hired to work in it but there are chemical engineers as well.

Choosing Upstream (getting the oil/gas out of the ground) and Downstream (Process it into something useful) would be the first consideration.

In terms of technical upstream is quite 'boring' to a Chem Eng, as most of the process involved are purely mechanical i.e. u play around with P, T and Q to get basic liquid-gas separation. Additionally, all the rules (i.e. vessel sizing) have been established by either American Petroleum Institute or in house design rules. Rarely do you actually get to use reaction formulas in anything (probably only in gas dehydration using glycol, but that's it). However, being good at fluid dynamics helps a lot.

In upstream, you can join projects (as a process engineer), reservoir engineer or production engineer (i.e facilities engineer, that looks after the performance of a running production facility i.e. platform). The switch to reservoir engineer needs a little bit of effort because you need to to learn a bit of geology. Do note that process engineer here places more emphasis of designing the faciliuty such that 'everything is under control' i.e. the pipes are of right size and thickness, there's enough redundancy, doing Hazard Analysis (HAZOP) (i.e. to simulate process upsets and see if there are enough devices to keep the process under control). Ocasionally you get to size pumps and compressors, but as mentioned before, all of these are dictated by API and established calculations. Don't be fooled though, Process Engineers are up there with Material Engs in terms of salary. It's hard to find Process Engineer who can do HYSIS, HAZOP it properly and anticipate all the real world issues like sand, fouling, emulsion and also make the facility user friendly.

On the Downstream side, your Chem Eng. subjects will be of more use, especially in projects (also called Process Engineers). You'll have lots of fun running all kinds of simulation, sizing all kinds of pumps, compressors, chillers, HX, distilation etc.. You can also join the operations side i.e. the tech support of a running plant. Or you can join the R&D, although usually they will try to hire ones with higher qualifications (Masters and beyond).

Your CGPA determines how much $$$ you start. But in the long run, it probably doesn't matter. If your aiming to start as an engineer and grow into management, People Skills are more important.

Hope this helps.

Myclamyra, he studying chemistry.
Not chemical engineering.

Hmm...I'm not too sure about chemistry in chemical engineering but if it's automotive or mechanical it sure deals with a wide spectrum of physics.

Could you enlighten me on which engineering discipline has a slight edge to be employed in the oil and gas sector? Many state mechanical engineers are better all rounders. But perhaps you're more well-versed in this? Thanks

I don't think it wise for me to comment because I'm still an undergraduate mechanical engineering student.

From what the info I know, it seem mechanical engineers are more well-rounded. At least we study more subjects compared to other courses where make us more "versatile" compared to others but my friend chemical engineering, get an internship opportunity in drilling department, UMW oil n gas where mostly mechanical engineering students would be involved in it.

I would say civil/mechanical/chemical stand a high chance to join oil n gas sector. Upstream or downstream, that would depend on job availability or how good you are.

So just take the course u prefer the most and hopefully get yourself involved in oil n gas sector after you grad.