Yes! Our Version 1 survived and evolved into V2

Version 1 by Ben Sow

Types of Primitive Freshwater fish
I followed this list from Monster Fish Keepers Website but the care list will be from various sources from the internet..
-Arowana(Discussion of this species will be held at Arowana forum not here.)
-Gars
-Knifefish
-Lungfish
-Polypterus(Bichirs and Ropefish)
-Arapaima Gigas(Not included in MFK)

Let's do a quick revision.
All credits are in V1, so do refer back.
All information are sorted by Ben. Thank you, Ben.

This post has been edited by genielee_83: Oct 16 2012, 05:33 PM

Gars

For this thread I will only show gars that are suitable for the normal aquaria.

Genus Atractosteus
Atractosteus tropicus—Tropical Gar- Maximum Size of 1.5M but reportedly smaller in aquaria
Very rare

Genus Lepisosteus
Lepisosteus oculatus—Spotted Gar- Mazimum size of 3ft
Long snout and spots. Spots to a higher degree towards the posterior of its body. Easily mistaken for Florida spotted gar.
Lepisosteus platostomus—Shortnose Gar
The shortnosed gar can be identified by its short snout, and by the lack of teeth rows in the upper jaw like the alligator gar, and the lack of spots on its body.
Lepisosteus platyrhincus—Florida Gar- Mazimum size of 3ft but reports say world record is at 132cm
A highly varied species of gar. Has more spots on its body and a shorter snout than many other gars. Easily mistaken for spotted gar.

Florida Gar

This post has been edited by genielee_83: Jan 20 2014, 05:01 PM

Knifefish



Chitala Chitala: Rare and endangered...not likely to be readily available to the hobby, yet the scientific name is also used to describe the Clown Knife
Chitala Blanci: Also known as the Royal Knife
Chitala Lopis: Also known as the Giant Knife or Giant Mekong Knife
Notopterus Notopterus: Also known as the Asian Featherfin, Asian Black Knife, or Bronze Knife

Royal Knife Chitala Lopis

Lungfish

African Lungfish
There are 4 different species of African lungfish however the most common species to be found in the aquarium trade is
Protopterus annectens-Most common
Protopterus aethiopicus
Protopterus amphibius
Protopterus dolloi

Protopterus annectens

African lungfishes are easy to keep if you can dedicate a large aquarium to specimens since they accept a broad range of water values. They should preferable be kept in neutral to slightly acidic water.They eat anything that is offered to them including dry food. (You might have to train them before they accept dry food.) If a food source is too large to fit in their mouth they eat pieces out of it, this includes other larger living fishes. So don't assume that a fish is safe with your African lungfish just because it is too big to fit in its mouth.

South American Lungfish-Lepidosiren paradoxa.

The South American lungfish grows to be 1.2 m / 4 feet. South American lungfish can be kept in aquarium in the same way as other lungfishes.

They require a large aquarium which shouldn't house any other fishes due to their predatory and aggressive nature. The water should be neutral to slightly acidic. They accept any meaty food and you might be able to get them to accept dry food. Be sure to feed a diverse diet containing fish, crayfish, shrimp, and earth worms

There are no known successful breeding of South American lungfish in aquarium. They spawn during the rainy season and the male builds a nest in which the eggs are deposited. The male then guard the eggs and the young against other predators, egg eaters etc. The fry spend their first 6-8 weeks hanging from vegetation using adhesive glands. These glands are not present in older fishes.

Australian Lungfish-Neoceratodus forsteri

They have very small eyes and a long thick body which is covered in large scales. They are usually olive-green to brown with dark spots on the sides. The species is CITES protected but there are licensed breeders from which they can be bought. They grow upto 5ft/1.5m and weigh over 40kg. The Australian lungfish has unlike other lungfish only one lung.

Australian lungfish should when kept in aquarium be kept alone in a large aquarium with a neutral to slightly acidic water. They will eat anything meaty and their natural diet consists of frogs, tadpoles, small fishes, snails, shrimp and also vegetable parts. They detect prey by using their sense of smell and detecting electrical impulses.There are no reports of successful breedings in aquariums. They spawn during the night and it takes the fry 3 weeks to hatch. The fry grows slowly.

There also exist a few albino specimens of this fish. Those are however very rare and extremely expensive.

I got mine from a seller (KL), we did cod.
SO far it's happy deal. Got my first PEE, royal knife from HIM

Add him and you'll start of just fine.

I really need to remove my PVCs. Pity me. Cant see my royal and Fire

I'm been thinking.
If i cant get nice red pebbles or sand for my birchir tank, which i plan just a layer or two ontop my current black peebles.
Then maybe i'll get ADA soil? I think there's red soil-Africana?

How and where did you guys bought your red sand?

pirahna or pacu?
can have closer look?

Other than weekly WC, how to keep water less fishy smell?
These few weeks i'm very busy, and i can feel the consequences..
My living room smells fishy..

How much does it cost?



This post has been edited by genielee_83: Nov 6 2012, 05:10 PM

Anyone near ipoh who wanna let loose their oscars,
please rujuk Papan area. Tempat pancing Ikan boss need fishes to
control the pestering tiny fishes (feeders) yang mengganggu orang pancing.

wow. 2nd pic filter looks big. mine is just normal size.
foam secara melintang 2 keping dah full

Just need PVC with holes for rain effect.
And lapik with bio balls , topped with foams (sounds like burger to me)
How to salur the water back to the tank?
How heavy will the filter be?
Mine just normal 4ft with two short braces.

with white base, polys marking will fade ..eventually.
And when you'll upgrade the tank? ^^
Those lap, PEE and ornate will outgrow soon.
And auranti needs cooler water to show beautifully marking.

p/s catfish and those suckers shouldn't comm with polys.

This post has been edited by genielee_83: Nov 14 2012, 02:31 PM

I saw ppl used red and black.
It boosts the colorations and markings.
I myself used black and red soil.
WC weekly, and looking for better filter other than canister and sump.
Anyone has better ideas? I'm thinking of 4 tier top filter but quite heavy, and fear my 4ft will kapoot

If you use tile, also need to scrap the tiles once or while.
Or it'll gives polys kegatalan at the bottom.

cant find the filter pictures. It's like regular top filter.
Just have 3 or 4 tiers. Each tier has one type of media.
Quite heavy.

I read canister is not fit for heavy carnivorous fish. Bio load too much to handle.

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Added on November 18, 2012, 5:01 pmshower system

shower filter blog

Few weeks back, i saw Taobao is selling alot.
Tempted to get two units ( birchir and oscar tanks).
Hard to find locally.

Issue: my 4ft is the regular type, ceramic rings are very heavy...
Haizz..

This post has been edited by genielee_83: Nov 18 2012, 05:01 PM

Jangkitan i dont know much,just read from a forumer.
Mine is metal rack with two4 ft ( top and bottom).
I think sump is not possible,coz no space. canister not big enough.
If is really big, my wallet also cant support.
If there's somebody who knows how to attach a roof for my rack, then maybe can have a roof that support the heavy filters.
But hb sure tak bagi. Pek Cheh

There is aquarium version. 3ft or 4ft.
RMB160+ each.

No matter what base, also need to vacuum clean.
If tiles or bare, just scrap the slime. For me, soil is vacuum

That branch dah tutup. Has a branch at Jusco and another pending at Batu Gajah.
It's a rojak of something mammal+ fish+ reptile.
Never seen them selling this sort of filter