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post Nov 18 2012, 07:38 PM

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i dont have space for sump tanks.
Canister attached to water filter with powerful head?
Hmmm~ i'm not good with gadgets so a picture would be nice.
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post Nov 24 2012, 10:41 AM

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the regular diy tower would be find, but those ceramic rings are very heavy.
And two pumps' filter is better than 1 pump? meaning more bio load filtered at faster rate, and sponges getting dirtier 2x faster too, ya?
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post Nov 24 2012, 06:48 PM

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i find this quite ok.
But dont want the little tub that act as sump.

You -Tube: DIY trickle filter/ dry wet filter
Material: plastic drawers, drills, a small bin (sump effect), white sponge for top drawer, green and black for 2nd,3rd drawers. PVC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZJBm89MuzU&feature=related

Please comment. Am thinking of doing one for my top tank (birchir).
And maybe modify abit ( maybe had the drawers sitting on a stool to make it higher than the tank?) so can be side to side filter for bottom rack tank.
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post Nov 24 2012, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(kakarocht @ Nov 24 2012, 12:15 PM)
should be no problem. cos ceramic rings is not heavy actually. how much amount you used for ceramic rings? single pumps will do. I used single pump like the pic that i post which is only suitable for my environment. sponges is depends on the qualities you used actually. apparently i used 2 types of sponge which is thick types (for koi) other is cheaper type of sponge. the 1st tray i put 2 types of sponge - below is koi sponge (those thick sponge which is selling big size around RM 30) the top i only put 2-3 layers of cheap sponge (used and throw). 2nd tray you can put either bio balls/ceramic rings/lava rocks/arang. 3 tray same as well either you wan to put like tray 1/2 method. your choice. if can show your aqua rig/pic will do.
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My plan is like this:

1st drawer-white foam
2nd and 3rd- green and black foam?

And regarding the power head, is put in the water connect with a pvc to the top.
You guys think enough power kah?

Then 3rd drawer either drill more holes (as trickle output) or one big hole as output direct into aquarium.
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post Nov 25 2012, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(kakarocht @ Nov 25 2012, 09:48 AM)
here is the sample of the diy filters that i made but haven't fully complete as shortage of pvc accessories.

DIY 3 storey filters... brows.gif

1) 3 storey filters

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2) The top layer hole is for the input.

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3) The top layer hole with the pvc input.

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4) The Trays with the holes for the filterations.

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* remember when doing DIY means you need some patient to do it. If you've no patient I recommend you buy ready made will do.  brows.gif
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where can i search for ready made trickle filter?


Added on November 25, 2012, 1:30 pmhttp://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=a220m.1000862.1000725.246.tFrmbD&id=20272224281&is_b=1&cat_id=2&q=
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post Nov 25 2012, 02:51 PM

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For me it's like dry wet filter.
All media is 50/50 in water and surface. Better bacteria breeding.
I wanna put foams so can tapis many times the bio-loads.
Carnivore tank is very heavy when we're talking bio-loads.

I might be wrong.
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post Nov 25 2012, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(L3()nZ @ Nov 25 2012, 03:18 PM)
Yea, big fish, eat more, big poo, heavy bio-loads tongue.gif
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Yep. But still we're still gatal punggung.
Also like to keep many big shitters. laugh.gif
Sambil WC sambil complain
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post Nov 25 2012, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Nov 25 2012, 03:50 PM)
yes... i think i got the same syndrome as you all..
while WC curse curse due to the fishes excess bioload. lol

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i'm thinking of buying the trickle system from china.
Of coz DIY is cheaper, but heck.. i'm bad in this kind of stuff and 100% wasting my money buying
this and that yet not producing the product shakehead.gif

I plan to COD in Ipoh.
Trickle Filter

4ft tank maybe will either get 45cm (6 drawers) or 60cm (9 drawers).
Only putting sponges so hopefully it won't collapsed.

And about my lower tank. There's no space for a 3 tier filter.
Get a canister kah?
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post Nov 25 2012, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(L3()nZ @ Nov 25 2012, 04:30 PM)
hahaa they are just like drugs. When u ve one monsters...u will want more...and then more and more despite they are big shitters.... biggrin.gif
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i want goliath. Love the shining coat (coat? doh.gif ), and sharp taring.
But only 4ft with birchirs and oscar.
Hb already mad.gif mad.gif

Johnson,
If i want a 8ft or 10ft tanpa braces and legs.
How much destruction would i feel in my wallet?


Added on November 25, 2012, 5:03 pmwhat do you call the pond liner in chinese?

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post Nov 25 2012, 09:37 PM

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Antzz, if goliath is like guppy fish.
You think we want to rear one? brows.gif
That's why I say punggung gatal. tongue.gif

RM150? So only one tier. Never saw it here in Ipoh. I think.
Mudah selling RM70 2nd hand.

Anyone from Ipoh can give me LFS who's selling this one tier filter.
Seems good enough to muat bottom rack tank. rolleyes.gif

What's a sub tank?
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post Nov 25 2012, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(kakarocht @ Nov 25 2012, 09:51 PM)
subtank is another filter as well which is also looks like aquarium but many partitions. u see it actually if u goes to fish shop.  brows.gif
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i googled. Looks like sump tank blink.gif
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post Nov 26 2012, 08:02 AM

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I think that's diy canister with big big space to tapis bio loads.
I'm using the usual 4ft rack to put 2 tanks.
Top tank sure can use sump tank ( maybe at the bottom side)or top filter.
But lower tank can't. Not enough space for tiered top or too low for sump tank.
That's why am considering options.

I googled Taobao for Eheim. Many prices many models.
Any other brands other than Eheim? And if it's Eheim, which model?
Maybe two moderate canisters to support the future bio loads.

FYI, my tanks are in my living room. With a kid roaming free ^^
So, it should be safe from drowning.

LuQee, You also from Ipoh kan?

Johnson, which goliath should i get my hands on That WONT burst my 4ft.
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post Nov 26 2012, 10:16 AM

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I dont want to puncture holes in my current aquarium.
And also no space.
Who can suggest canister brands? MIC also acceptable as long as can last few years
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post Nov 26 2012, 10:54 AM

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Pacu? Red Belly? Hmm.. Interesting.

marineland C-Series Canister Filters..hmm.will check out the price.
Might even google DIY canister ^^

Regarding the tier top filters, RMB80+ got already. Just the DOA (Damaged ON Arrival Risk). And of coz postage. If one go i get other junks, then M3 =rm400 will be nice and cheap
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post Nov 26 2012, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(kakarocht @ Nov 26 2012, 11:04 AM)
if you diy the cost is cheaper than that including the pvc, pvc parts, drills and etc.  laugh.gif try to do it you'll know how to diy it. just follow the steps like i made then should be no problem at all. cos i do that kind of filter is easy to maintain be it 3 trays or above should be no problem. just the matters is what kind of filter you're looking for. maybe i can try to gives you some ideas and what kind of material you need. you mention your aquarium is 4 feet x 2 rite?
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post Nov 26 2012, 12:19 PM

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LuQee,
Your 8ft use this TetraTec RMB1200

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流量:2400升/小时[SIZE=7]
适用水族箱:150-200厘米(约150-400L)
最大扬程:3.6米
过滤箱容量:22.7L
滤材盒数量:4个
进出水管内径:22毫米,长1.5米左右
功率:60W(220V)
尺寸:长33×宽33×高56厘米

邮寄重量:约20kg

I don't like fibre tank coz can't feel the fish.
My dream tank is big tank on the floor brows.gif
Then I can sleep on the floor and doze off


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post Nov 26 2012, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(antzz @ Nov 26 2012, 02:27 PM)
I just to a fren, a garden supply business owner. He can supply up to 11 feet fiberglass tank + long side glass, if i abandon the cement pond idea. About look, he recommended wood frames, as it is movable & got authentic look too (I'm thinking, i might ask for a wooden deck as well, but will cost a nuclear bomb to my pocket) sweat.gif

Do u know this guy Raymond Soon from Century Religious Supply? Been eyeing his products for years, but he's far in penang..
I totally understand this, i want this kinda tank as well! But we're gonna need a lot of space for this dream icon_rolleyes.gif
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Antzz,
11ft?! Show us the pictures and price tag! brows.gif

Kakarocht,
Thanks for the lists but i only understand till the "drill bit" parts ohmy.gif

LuQee, You cepat survey TetraTec.
Maybe can join the pre-order before closes 15/12 (for me rolleyes.gif )
I cant find any Marineland C-Series in Taobao.
TetraTec Canister
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post Nov 26 2012, 03:01 PM

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Check these out guys
Specifications for External Canister Filters
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post Nov 26 2012, 03:20 PM

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the saw hole is used with the drill?
I have drill.
What bout these? threaded bushing (1/2 inch), threaded 90 degrees (1/2 inch) and threaded plug
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post Nov 26 2012, 06:16 PM

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ha, if i buy one (6 drawers, and 9 drawers). only rm105.
if take 9 drawers*2 units rm114.

baloi?

TetraTec canister RMB1200 might cost RM776 (+-) brows.gif
Gonna continue survey. hihi. See FURNITURE drool.gif

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