Deadlifting is the ancestor for all exercises!! HAIL DEADLIFT!!Anyway back to TS concerns, Heavy or HOME.
I say HEAVY(any debates ?) ... But yes, when you go heavy there no-way you gonna focus on forms or momentum. But according to the sifu's here when you screw up the form you basically gonna screw up your back. I will say this statement is overrated.
But when you go massive heavy 100kg-120kgx2/1RM you can't focus on form anymore. YOU CANT!!
So TS it's good to go heavy but not a jump between 50kg to 100kg. Try with 3 plates(10kg) aside total 60kg for first week. Don't butt wink, straight back, drop weight to the ground for each reps.
Build your repo with Mr Deadlift, climb up with 2.5kg/5kg each day/weekly. Remember, big muscle ain't always strong.
*this is for TS who is dl 50kg(not bad at all), so i believe there is nothing wrong with his forms or posture. Oh yeah, last but no least..rerack the plates once your done.
This post has been edited by wormyx: Oct 22 2012, 04:14 PM
1) 100kg deadlift is not at all heavy. 2) Using heavy deads as reason for bad form is plain lazy. Sorry if it offends but I'd rather you be offended than end up with a hernia.
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QUOTE(wormyx @ Oct 22 2012, 04:14 PM)
Deadlifting is the ancestor for all exercises!! HAIL DEADLIFT!!Anyway back to TS concerns, Heavy or HOME. I say HEAVY(any debates ?) ... But yes, when you go heavy there no-way you gonna focus on forms or momentum. But according to the sifu's here when you screw up the form you basically gonna screw up your back. I will say this statement is overrated.
But when you go massive heavy 100kg-120kgx2/1RM you can't focus on form anymore. YOU CANT!!
So TS it's good to go heavy but not a jump between 50kg to 100kg. Try with 3 plates(10kg) aside total 60kg for first week. Don't butt wink, straight back, drop weight to the ground for each reps. Build your repo with Mr Deadlift, climb up with 2.5kg/5kg each day/weekly. Remember, big muscle ain't always strong.
*this is for TS who is dl 50kg(not bad at all), so i believe there is nothing wrong with his forms or posture. Oh yeah, last but no least..rerack the plates once your done.
Going heavy is not an excuse for doing deadlift with poor form. If you are always training in your comfort zone where the form is perfect and the weight is not heavy, then it will be hard to maintain proper form while deadlifting heavy. (Heavy is subjective here. There is no exact value that one can consider heavy. Heavy for you doesn't mean heavy for me).
If you are always practicing going heavy, you will go heavy with good form, just like what Mikehuan said.
Try using the 20kg plates, a friend of mine was hunching pretty bad (almost looked like a "U") when he loaded up 2 10kg plates. I stopped him and just swapped the plates to a single 20kg plate per side and his form was much better, probably from the increased height(?) of the bar from the ground.
Try using the 20kg plates, a friend of mine was hunching pretty bad (almost looked like a "U") when he loaded up 2 10kg plates. I stopped him and just swapped the plates to a single 20kg plate per side and his form was much better, probably from the increased height(?) of the bar from the ground.
Maybe he can squat further down just to keep his lower back and upper back straight in case of lower height of the bar from the ground..as an alternative..more squat power that is..
He'd have to squat really low, almost like squat level low, to stop his lower back from rounding if he uses 10kg plates. He just started lifting 2 weeks ago so taking it slow.
He'd have to squat really low, almost like squat level low, to stop his lower back from rounding if he uses 10kg plates. He just started lifting 2 weeks ago so taking it slow.
or, you can just stack a few plates to increase the height of the barbell from the ground. Make it high just the same height if you are deadlifting a 45lbs plate each side. simple no?
hinge at the hips and pull your shoulders back. if you need to, drop your hips a little lower.
when testing maxes, face the fact that form will suffer, usually at the shoulders with it rolling forward but never should it be about your lower and upper back.
if upper and/or lower back form starts to break down, cut the weight by 10% and work up again to your next max testing day.
Because yesterday I just would like to try it at the rack because its the first time of me pulling 130kg and 140kg, its like pre-deadlift for me..so later in the future I would like to do this on the ground..
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Oct 23 2012, 09:09 PM)
Gratz!
Okay what the form. It'll get better by itself. Yeah don't do it from the rack.
Thanks for the encouragement. Yeah this is my first time pulling 130kg and 140lb, so as pre-lift, I do it on the rack, so its a little bit elevate from the ground, kinda cheating there..hehe..later I gonna try do it from the dead ground.. Btw, just started deadlifting seriously this year..Form is a little bit off during 140kg since did 120kg and 130kg before..trying to keep back as straight as possible..
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QUOTE(fabians94 @ Oct 23 2012, 09:39 PM)
That's not a deadlift.... that's a rack pull.
Yeah I admit, whatever that it is called, next time will show you the real deadlift dead from the ground.. ^^
Added on October 24, 2012, 10:19 am
QUOTE(whatdamn @ Oct 24 2012, 01:07 AM)
^ this.
hinge at the hips and pull your shoulders back. if you need to, drop your hips a little lower.
when testing maxes, face the fact that form will suffer, usually at the shoulders with it rolling forward but never should it be about your lower and upper back.
if upper and/or lower back form starts to break down, cut the weight by 10% and work up again to your next max testing day.
Yeah thanks for your advice, however I've just started this year, my deadlift is the worst compared to other lifts..
Just wanted to ask you. about hinge at the hips and pulling shoulders back, is it the same as arching your back and pulling your chest out during bench press? Meaning to say that it will improve your deadlift power?
Well, I see this one personal who pulled 220kg for 2 reps, which is almost his max, and still his form is the same as he is pulling 50% of his max..yeah form will suffer but as long as lower back is straigth should be no problem..
Thanks again! Will try my best to improve the form..its hard if you got bench press and squat together in your regime..it's like dividing all your power for the three big lifts..
This post has been edited by Seasick85: Oct 24 2012, 10:21 AM
or, you can just stack a few plates to increase the height of the barbell from the ground. Make it high just the same height if you are deadlifting a 45lbs plate each side. simple no?
True, but since he can do 45lbs per side straight away with good form, why not right?
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Veering away from topic , but you train at KBS ? I think i've seen you before.
Yeah, I trained Kementerian Belia & Sukan (KBS) in Putrajaya. It is a government gym situated inside the building first floor.. The equipment is pretty much as brand new since government maintained it..and its month payment pretty much cheap..rm30 for student and rm40 for worker..
They got all necessary items such as power racks which you can see in my video doing deadlift, bench press hammer strength rack, leg press hammer strength etc..the dumbbell racks have weights ranging from 5lb to 50lb, rubber and steel, few pairs each..
Most of the regulars there are strength trainers..although there are few random people are just coming in and out..
Oct 22 2012, 04:14 PM
... But yes, when you go heavy there no-way you gonna focus on forms or momentum. But according to the sifu's here when you screw up the form you basically gonna screw up your back. I will say this statement is overrated.
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