Haha , nah. I'm just the random trainee there. I generally use the power rack or the old Squat rack around there.

Vids or it didn't happen!

Forum lacking some action lately. Probably I'm gonna take some squats vids later this week just to liven things up.

Gratz. However its kinda unbalanced strength you got there between your squat and deadlift..but yeah i believe you since i saw people like your case..his max squat is 150kg and yet he barely can do 145kg deadlift..

Mind to show some vids of your squat form?

It's a deadlift la. Partial deadlift and his form looks good. Rack pulls are a lot higher up in pin settings.

Out of all seriousness. An inch higher from your foot makes a whole lot of difference. Even putting a mat under the weights to aid with lessening the sound made makes a whole lot of difference.

It should be pulled off the ground. That is a legit deadlift.

This post has been edited by fabians94: Oct 24 2012, 02:29 PM

There is a difference between partial deadlift and rack pulls. Rack pulls remove all leg movements and focus more on back movements

I agree its a difference, but if you aren't competing it shouldn't matter in the big picture.

Then he should rightfully claim that it's a partial deadlift PR.

There aren't any powerlifting competitions in malaysia afaik. But no one wants to know how much you can partially deadlift.

Well he freely admitted it wasn't a full dead. I don't see why it shoud bother anyone?

It doesn't bother me actually. I just had to mention that it wasn't a deadlift.

I see so many people claiming that they massively deadlift and all i see is they're pulling off the pins in the squat rack with straps and belt. that... bothers me.

cerewet nak mampos. chill dude.
why do you have to make a big deal about it?

I seem to always get misinterpreted. It's not a big deal. I was just pointing it out.

Woah.. I'm becoming a hot topic now..lol..ok2, chill..sorry dude that was a PARTIAL deadlift..I may make a wrong claim but the reason is that I'm just so happy cause early this year, I can only do 100kg max deadlift, so now I can do 140kg deadlift, although it is just a partial, I'm happy with it..furthermore, there's no worry since I have lots more room to improve on my form and strength since I'm not seasoned yet with deadlifts..unlike my bench press, I seem to have difficult time to increase due to seasoned muscles..and that is one of the rules of strength sports where you need to regularly adapted to new strength routines just to learn new ways to improve form and strength..

and THAT is what I'm currently doing.. I understand how you feel when I said that it was deadlift..but for some people who doesn't really care about partial/full/rack pull deadlift, they sure don't mind it..

Anyway, thanks to all who backing me up and the compliments.. Keep on pumping iron!

Same for me. 270 squats for reps (x6) but pulling that for deads isn't easy for me. Maybe two plates for reps (220) max.

You know, at first I also had the same feeling as mikehuan here where he mentioned that squat works hand-in-hand with deadlift..but i guess that is only a part of the issue here?

The same muscle group that works during both exercises are:

1) Lower back (if you do back squat and bend a bit for hip drive, then it becomes obvious).
2) Quadricep? maybe if you squated low enough during dead stop bottom phase, which I didn't.
3) Hamstring (only if you squated deep enough to feel it in your hamstrings as in full squat).
4) Calves (both exercise has same impact to it, correct me if I'm wrong).
5) Abs (both exercise has same impact, the difference is squat contracts your abs and deadlift expand your abs, correct me if I'm wrong).

and knees and joints..

Other than that, I think there are no direct relationship between both exercise because others parts like traps, front shoulder is not related. So most probably its that unrelated muscles which cause your weak link during a deadlift..not too mentioned your grip strength..

Just a thought

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Added on October 24, 2012, 4:06 pmOo yeah just to mention that one personal trainer in KBS said that you must do squat before deadlift..meaning if you do deadlift, it will impact your squat strength but if you do squat first, then you should deadlift it with no problem.. I guess he say this bcoz he utilizes his lower back much during squat, and obviously its a back squat bcoz front squat you must stand straight so lower back is not used..

So i still think that it depends on the know-it-how execution for both exercises..

Otherwise, you would have bigger deadlift than your squat?

This post has been edited by Seasick85: Oct 24 2012, 04:06 PM

Good for you then

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Added on October 24, 2012, 5:10 pmI personally think that if you if can do more squat, deadlift by right, should be moreeeeeee..

*to me, squat using smith machine are for warming up only...

This post has been edited by one2ka4: Oct 24 2012, 05:10 PM

Maybe you should check your squat depth. Because if you haven't entered the 400lbs category, your deadlift should be higher than you squat.

Sigh.... you really need to unwind.

So now you are questioning the validity of my squats?

FYI they are azz to grass not just parallel.

I've seen your deadlift video. You are awfully cocky for a noob you know?

There's no reason for your deadlift to be weaker than your squat then.

ah, yes that video. I don't consider myself to be a cocky person but that's fine.

Orrrrrrrr........I don't train it as often? Because I prefer to mix it up on back day?