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Wizard Discussion v2, Come, all ye arcanists
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peinsama
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Jun 9 2014, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 9 2014, 04:27 PM) WoW aren't really dependant on firebird, it's typically the standard fire set, or the misc set items i am running because i can specifically hunt mats > craft them as oppose to praying stuff like andy/magefist/cindercoat/SOJ to drop. also, WoW wizzies don't run and shoot, they go in melee just like barbs/monks. no bruh, what i meant wizard is also gear dependent just like other characters. Just that i listed the examples like Vyr set and Firebird set. anyway, no la i dont mean WoW needs to depend on Firebird, just that i came across a unique WoW build from one of the players i met. It's a niche one. Need 5 items from Firebird sets + mirrorball and WoW. They are aiming for the last attribute which gives 300% weapon damage to nearby enemies for 5 sec which is awesome especially chaining EB. So, in short, higher rifting somehow depends on gears no?
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Quazacolt
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Jun 9 2014, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Jun 9 2014, 04:42 PM) no bruh, what i meant wizard is also gear dependent just like other characters. Just that i listed the examples like Vyr set and Firebird set. anyway, no la i dont mean WoW needs to depend on Firebird, just that i came across a unique WoW build from one of the players i met. It's a niche one. Need 5 items from Firebird sets + mirrorball and WoW. They are aiming for the last attribute which gives 300% weapon damage to nearby enemies for 5 sec which is awesome especially chaining EB. So, in short, higher rifting somehow depends on gears no? well, there's always jade/pet doctors/dark light crusaders/marauder DH. the gear dependency is not as bad as a wiz/barb, and even geared monks, higher torment is still a b****.
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peinsama
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Jun 9 2014, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 9 2014, 04:44 PM) well, there's always jade/pet doctors/dark light crusaders/marauder DH. the gear dependency is not as bad as a wiz/barb, and even geared monks, higher torment is still a b****. agree on the higher torment hardiness. As long as one member died... All eyes become --> O.O!
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hvaly
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Jun 10 2014, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE(uk9089 @ Jun 9 2014, 04:17 PM) What is the average critical damage for wizard? mine around 2.5million to 3.5million (magic missile) 5 million to 9 million (meteor) i can easily t3. t4 still ok. t5 1-2 dead but damn long to kill them (takes 20-30 min each rift) mostly alone rift. if with my friends full group of 4, t5 can easily 10 minutes (im a supporting role). http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Keting-1449/hero/45997554mine one .. wow build if critical proc 7-9 million each blast 23-28 million for meteor hardly die in T5, might die once in t6 after about 10 rifting (remember to run for your life when red life  ) btw, now i am playing wd .. much more fun and far less click than wow wi
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Quazacolt
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Jun 12 2014, 01:30 PM
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QUOTE(hvaly @ Jun 10 2014, 04:56 PM) mine one .. wow build if critical proc 7-9 million each blast 23-28 million for meteor hardly die in T5, might die once in t6 after about 10 rifting (remember to run for your life when red life  ) btw, now i am playing wd .. much more fun and far less click than wow wi  bro you on the meteor with CD timer? btw no need to click with WoW, just hold down 2... i'm considering putting a coin for my 2 key or something, to keep it permanent whenever i'm WoW'ing with wiz
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Boonie
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Jun 12 2014, 05:15 PM
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New Member
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they rigged the enchant again... wtf..
just a few try and price went to 2mil+ a pop... <<i'm a naughty boy who just used a naughty word>>
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Quazacolt
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Jun 12 2014, 07:25 PM
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QUOTE(Boonie @ Jun 12 2014, 05:15 PM) they rigged the enchant again... wtf.. just a few try and price went to 2mil+ a pop... <<i'm a naughty boy who just used a naughty word>> sorry for causing that word to be censored... (long story  )
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peinsama
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Jun 13 2014, 09:52 AM
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Found this 2 handed staff while rifting in T6
The Smoldering Core
As a support wizard myself, this is by far one of the best way, to divert the attention of pesky lesser mobs. It works way better than stun, freeze and slow.
I haven't really pair it with Tal Rasha set items but my oh my......if you use this to divert the attention, 3 of your teammates will dont have to do much but just focus on spamming monsters as the diverted monsters will not attack your teammates and it just keeps going to to the impact areas.
The cons? I miss alot of toughness and DPS but again, the pros outweigh the cons in this one. You guys should try it out once u find this staff.
*My opinions are normally for multiplayer rifting. I'm not wasting my time on solo (except bounty) since Multiplayer beats solo by a mile in terms of benefits*
This post has been edited by peinsama: Jun 13 2014, 10:18 AM
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s7ran9er
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Jun 13 2014, 09:55 AM
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currently running a frozen orb wiz here, is there any build that's not entirely gear build dependent? (Just stepped into torment world)
This post has been edited by s7ran9er: Jun 13 2014, 10:04 AM
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peinsama
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Jun 13 2014, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE(s7ran9er @ Jun 13 2014, 09:55 AM) currently running a frozen orb wiz here, is there any build that's not entirely gear build dependent? (Just stepped into torment world) Most if not all, wizards needs to be gear dependent. If you like ice damage focus more on freezing skills and items.
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VinluV
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Jun 13 2014, 05:11 PM
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Guys. Need some advice on my wiz. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/PinkieP...4/hero/19939469Currently doing T1-2 comfortably. what item to aim/craft for now?to get to T3-4 comfortably. p.s.-forgot to detach nemesis bracers...
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ALeUNe
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Jun 13 2014, 05:29 PM
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I'm the purebred with aristocratic pedigree
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QUOTE(VinluV @ Jun 13 2014, 05:11 PM) Guys. Need some advice on my wiz. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/PinkieP...4/hero/19939469Currently doing T1-2 comfortably. what item to aim/craft for now?to get to T3-4 comfortably. p.s.-forgot to detach nemesis bracers... I think you need better wep and source. SoH/WoW/TF/Serpent's Sparker etc Mirrorball Crafted gears, Aughild's x 2 is a must. It makes big difference in terms of survivability and damage against elites. Aughild's > Asheara's Personally I use 2xAughild's and 2xAsheara's T3/4 should be piece of cake with these gears. By the way, you've got kick-ass Asheara's gloves.
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yimingwuzere
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Jun 13 2014, 08:56 PM
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Still on my endless quest to be able to comfortably do T5/T6 solo. Decided to screw my fruitless attempts to finish my cold wizard, and play around with the Vyr's set. http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/yimingw...bwainz/41103476Any idea on what I should get next?
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Vorador
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Jun 16 2014, 11:14 AM
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wowow
After all the BS spent for mirror ball but failed, I decided to switch to eletro stun god wizard, and the result is AMAZING!
now I'm about +50% lighting dmg and Myken, SOH (low dmg, need a new one) storm crow, the output is nice and no enemy can touch me!
Now only thing is my thundergod vigor belt has too low dmg, so I used my witching hour instead. (18% more dmg)
Also aiming for another ring which give 13% more stun chances from lighting. (got one but it's for crusader)
ah on more thing: Does myken work with Arc Lighting?
This post has been edited by Vorador: Jun 16 2014, 11:22 AM
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peinsama
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Jun 16 2014, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE(Vorador @ Jun 16 2014, 11:14 AM) wowow After all the BS spent for mirror ball but failed, I decided to switch to eletro stun god wizard, and the result is AMAZING! now I'm about +50% lighting dmg and Myken, SOH (low dmg, need a new one) storm crow, the output is nice and no enemy can touch me! Now only thing is my thundergod vigor belt has too low dmg, so I used my witching hour instead. (18% more dmg) Also aiming for another ring which give 13% more stun chances from lighting. (got one but it's for crusader) ah on more thing: Does myken work with Arc Lighting? it does, but it works better at long range. Use forked lightning instead of chain lightning. IF possible, find fulminator like the ones i have, trust me, its awesom-er than SoH. Alternatively TF is not a bad deal as well. Am using the electro stun god build but i hybrid it with blizzard and black hole. I switch the Wywward ring to RoRG because my wywward ring is abit...underpowered but paralysis passive itself is godlike liao.
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Vorador
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Jun 16 2014, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Jun 16 2014, 11:30 AM) it does, but it works better at long range. Use forked lightning instead of chain lightning. IF possible, find fulminator like the ones i have, trust me, its awesom-er than SoH. Alternatively TF is not a bad deal as well. Am using the electro stun god build but i hybrid it with blizzard and black hole. I switch the Wywward ring to RoRG because my wywward ring is abit...underpowered but paralysis passive itself is godlike liao. I choose arc lighting because of the high DMG, forked lightning a bit... I do have a fulminator but it' doesn't have main stat, so if I want socket means no INT for me Guess I shall start farming for fulminator & TF?
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peinsama
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Jun 16 2014, 11:50 AM
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QUOTE(Vorador @ Jun 16 2014, 11:35 AM) I choose arc lighting because of the high DMG, forked lightning a bit... I do have a fulminator but it' doesn't have main stat, so if I want socket means no INT for me Guess I shall start farming for fulminator & TF? High Dmg is one thing, just make sure u are okay with the enemy is in front of you. not viable in higher torment unless your toughness + healing is super high. When you have myken, the lightning can be consider chained and doubled to the same enemies. So i rather take my bet and play at longer range. This post has been edited by peinsama: Jun 16 2014, 12:14 PM
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Vorador
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Jun 16 2014, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Jun 16 2014, 11:50 AM) High Dmg is one thing, just make sure u are okay with the enemy is in front of you. not viable in higher torment unless your toughness + healing is super high. When you have myken, the lightning can be consider chained and doubled to the same enemies. So i rather take my bet and play at longer range. ooo ok, tonight lemme try solo T3 and see. Just now cross checked, I'm +59% lightning DMG, odd enough I can crit almost as high as my fire wizard (+80% fire DMG with higher base dmg)
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peinsama
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Jun 16 2014, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE(Vorador @ Jun 16 2014, 01:00 PM) ooo ok, tonight lemme try solo T3 and see. Just now cross checked, I'm +59% lightning DMG, odd enough I can crit almost as high as my fire wizard (+80% fire DMG with higher base dmg) you mean crit often? i dont think based on the numbers you gave, it comes out with the result u mentioned. Perhaps different skill spender? Plus, fire and arcane are among the skill spender with high damage output. P.S, now im thinking to get the ESS of Jordan amulet. Heard its great and proc often some say. With fast lightning attack speed, i'm thinking that this ammy is consider useful in tight situation.
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