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 Wizard Discussion v2, Come, all ye arcanists

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Vorador
post Jun 16 2014, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(peinsama @ Jun 16 2014, 02:05 PM)
you mean crit often? i dont think based on the numbers you gave, it comes out with the result u mentioned. Perhaps different skill spender? Plus, fire and arcane are among the skill spender with high damage output.
P.S, now im thinking to get the ESS of Jordan amulet. Heard its great and proc often some say. With fast lightning attack speed, i'm thinking that this ammy is consider useful in tight situation.
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oops, I means my firebuild suppose to do higher DMG, who knows after sacrifice some dps and swap to lightning build, my Arc Lightning still crit about the same dmg as my fire build. (fire pulse)

Anyway I got a thundergod vigor with +15% lightning dmg & +15% electrode dmg, too bad overall stat is lousy and thus cannnot compare to my current witching hour.

Anyway you can see my Gears here.

I got one of the lousiest roll of firebird glove... sweat.gif

This post has been edited by Vorador: Jun 16 2014, 02:12 PM
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post Jun 16 2014, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(Vorador @ Jun 16 2014, 02:10 PM)
oops, I means my firebuild suppose to do higher DMG, who knows after sacrifice some dps and swap to lightning build, my Arc Lightning still crit about the same dmg as my fire build. (fire pulse)

Anyway I got a thundergod vigor with +15% lightning dmg & +15% electrode dmg, too bad overall stat is lousy and thus cannnot compare to my current witching hour.

Anyway you can see my Gears here.

I got one of the lousiest roll of firebird glove...  sweat.gif
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Saw that u used spark arcane orb, good shit bruh? laugh.gif i like the animation

yes, witching hours is still the top dawg aite.

That's a great thundergod vigor you got thar.

I'm still searching for my myken orb although my triumvirate is alright too -.-



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post Jun 16 2014, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(peinsama @ Jun 16 2014, 02:17 PM)
Saw that u used spark arcane orb, good shit bruh? laugh.gif i like the animation

yes, witching hours is still the top dawg aite.

That's a great thundergod vigor you got thar.

I'm still searching for my myken orb although my triumvirate is alright too -.-
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I previously use meteor (the lightning one), but the atk is too slow and I realize spark orb does around the same DMG, with much faster casting...

my thundergod vigor looks nice but it pull down my dps about 18%, which is close to 100k!

If you look at my gears, u probably can guest I'm working hard on my gloves and shoulders... (I think stormcrow should be good enough... no need the other velvet thingy)
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post Jun 16 2014, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(Vorador @ Jun 16 2014, 02:24 PM)
I previously use meteor (the lightning one), but the atk is too slow and I realize spark orb does around the same DMG, with much faster casting...

my thundergod vigor looks nice but it pull down my dps about 18%, which is close to 100k!

If you look at my gears, u probably can guest I'm working hard on my gloves and shoulders... (I think stormcrow should be good enough... no need the other velvet thingy)
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but remember though, the meteor, immobilize the enemies, which is quite critical in when against fast mobs in higher torment. Nvm, later i try the Spark brows.gif Btw, the area it covers when zapping mobs, is it good?

Yup, your gears, need to change a few thang aite. The storm crow......to be honest you should change to CC. I'm not sure why you re-rolling lightning damage bruh.
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post Jun 16 2014, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(peinsama @ Jun 16 2014, 02:28 PM)
but remember though, the meteor, immobilize the enemies, which is quite critical in when against fast mobs in higher torment. Nvm, later i try the Spark brows.gif Btw, the area it covers when zapping mobs, is it good?

Yup, your gears, need to change a few thang aite. The storm crow......to be honest you should change to CC. I'm not sure why you re-rolling lightning damage bruh.
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Need the lightning DMG for my lightning atk lar...

Spark orb quite ok, reason of using it instead of meteor is because the stun effect also not guaranteed, but spark orb's zapping and explosion can cause them to stun too. (of cause I'm using paralysis passive!)
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post Jun 16 2014, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(Vorador @ Jun 16 2014, 02:33 PM)
Need the lightning DMG for my lightning atk lar...

Spark orb quite ok, reason of using it instead of meteor is because the stun effect also not guaranteed, but spark orb's zapping and explosion can cause them to stun too. (of cause I'm using paralysis passive!)
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hmm, storm crow already got lightning damage as primary stat, maybe u want to re-roll to 20%? Aisehman, u willing to skip 6 CC for it.

Hmm, i try switch my blizzard to Spark later. Zap zap zap, increase lightning damage then use forked lightning brows.gif

or Blackhole first, then throw 2-3 ball, then zap zap zap brows.gif
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post Jun 16 2014, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(peinsama @ Jun 16 2014, 02:37 PM)
hmm, storm crow already got lightning damage as primary stat, maybe u want to re-roll to 20%? Aisehman, u willing to skip 6 CC for it.

Hmm, i try switch my blizzard to Spark later. Zap zap zap, increase lightning damage then use forked lightning brows.gif

or Blackhole first, then throw 2-3 ball, then zap zap zap brows.gif
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That stat was lighting dmg already but initially was 15%, so I roll it to 20% lor... I thought elemental dmg is the hot thing now...
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post Jun 16 2014, 03:40 PM

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Guy archon good at t5-6? Just wondering since i only have the pant. biggrin.gif
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post Jun 16 2014, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(Vorador @ Jun 16 2014, 02:56 PM)
That stat was lighting dmg already but initially was 15%, so I roll it to 20% lor... I thought elemental dmg is the hot thing now...
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It is, but 6% cc is better for your storm crow case. CC increase your base damage then at the same time even with 15% increase in lightning, its much better than your current 20% lightning damage without cc, lol.


QUOTE(fe3doe @ Jun 16 2014, 03:40 PM)
Guy archon good at t5-6? Just wondering since i only have the pant. biggrin.gif
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Good also. But make sure u need good CDR and high damage.

I've played with a wizard with good CDR where after archon finished, they can re-cast about 20 sec later. Another one is WoW user, although that fella keep teleporting cos in t6, going for melee is suicide sometimes. One chop, gone case lol.
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post Jun 16 2014, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(peinsama @ Jun 16 2014, 04:12 PM)
It is, but 6% cc is better for your storm crow case. CC increase your base damage then at the same time even with 15% increase in lightning, its much better than your current 20% lightning damage without cc, lol.
Good also. But make sure u need good CDR and high damage.

I've played with a wizard with good CDR where after archon finished, they can re-cast about 20 sec later. Another one is WoW user, although that fella keep teleporting cos in t6, going for melee is suicide sometimes. One chop, gone case lol.
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well in this case... I got another spare storm crow.... flex.gif
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post Jun 16 2014, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(Vorador @ Jun 16 2014, 04:14 PM)
well in this case... I got another spare storm crow....  flex.gif
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yup, give it a try.
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post Jun 16 2014, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(peinsama @ Jun 16 2014, 04:12 PM)
I've played with a wizard with good CDR where after archon finished, they can re-cast about 20 sec later. Another one is WoW user, although that fella keep teleporting cos in t6, going for melee is suicide sometimes. One chop, gone case lol.
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my wiz can actually tank tor6 somewhat, however lack damage, and CDR still lacking around 3% for that sweet spot sad.gif
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post Jun 16 2014, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 16 2014, 06:19 PM)
my wiz can actually tank tor6 somewhat, however lack damage, and CDR still lacking around 3% for that sweet spot sad.gif
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What's the sweet spot, bruh? 20 secs difference?
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post Jun 16 2014, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(peinsama @ Jun 16 2014, 06:44 PM)
What's the sweet spot, bruh? 20 secs difference?
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56-58% on character sheet. (which is the effective CDR )
so 100 sec (with rune) - 56% = 44

dont think theres a way for sub 20 sec archon unless he's swapping gear:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/13019162167

well, there's this:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/21...ull_tals_build/

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QUOTE(peinsama @ Jun 16 2014, 04:12 PM)
It is, but 6% cc is better for your storm crow case. CC increase your base damage then at the same time even with 15% increase in lightning, its much better than your current 20% lightning damage without cc, lol.
Good also. But make sure u need good CDR and high damage.

I've played with a wizard with good CDR where after archon finished, they can re-cast about 20 sec later. Another one is WoW user, although that fella keep teleporting cos in t6, going for melee is suicide sometimes. One chop, gone case lol.
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Found boots and glove.. Tested archon combine with WOW+mm... As my glove kinda chokia.. And keep cast normal WoW+mm during the downtime. I found it kinda fun build. biggrin.gif

Any good build suggestion?
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post Jun 17 2014, 11:15 AM

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aaaah tasted my lighting wizard, had a lot of fun with fellow players yesterday night, and contribute a lot in stunning the mobs.

Just had some problem when solo'ing belial, this fela almost immune to all kind of stun/ freeze effect.
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QUOTE(Vorador @ Jun 16 2014, 02:10 PM)
oops, I means my firebuild suppose to do higher DMG, who knows after sacrifice some dps and swap to lightning build, my Arc Lightning still crit about the same dmg as my fire build. (fire pulse)

Anyway I got a thundergod vigor with +15% lightning dmg & +15% electrode dmg, too bad overall stat is lousy and thus cannnot compare to my current witching hour.

Anyway you can see my Gears here.

I got one of the lousiest roll of firebird glove...  sweat.gif
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your shoulder is quit nice icon_idea.gif
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post Jun 17 2014, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(Zelda85 @ Jun 17 2014, 11:42 AM)
your shoulder is quit nice  icon_idea.gif
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er... I want fire bird shoulder (for the +500INT bonus)

Anyway Just checked around, realize that my fav skill: Arc Lightning DOES NOT work with Myken ball of hate... wasted sad.gif
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post Jun 17 2014, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 16 2014, 07:03 PM)
56-58% on character sheet. (which is the effective CDR )
so 100 sec (with rune) - 56% = 44

dont think theres a way for sub 20 sec archon unless he's swapping gear:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/13019162167

well, there's this:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/21...ull_tals_build/
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44 sec - 20 sec, means got 24 sec to prepare. But if sub 20 sec....lol i the player sacrifice quite alot of stats.

QUOTE(fe3doe @ Jun 16 2014, 08:35 PM)
Found boots and glove.. Tested archon combine with WOW+mm... As my glove kinda chokia.. And keep cast normal WoW+mm during the downtime. I found it kinda fun build. biggrin.gif

Any good build suggestion?
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Your build is good for awesome damage bruh. Normally, for wizard our build based on the elements we want to play although Archon seems to be viable for each type of element as well.

QUOTE(Vorador @ Jun 17 2014, 11:15 AM)
aaaah tasted my lighting wizard, had a lot of fun with fellow players yesterday night, and contribute a lot in stunning the mobs.

Just had some problem when solo'ing belial, this fela almost immune to all kind of stun/ freeze effect.
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Spark is awesomely cute. hahahaha. Yeah. the stun proc is nice. What i do, just lob it as further as i can as long enemies within sight.

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post Jun 17 2014, 12:34 PM

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The Archon bonus bug leh? "Archon gain effect of every rune" but no pure power and improved Archon
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