just asking is it illegal to use iptv media player at home or restaurant ?

At Home ok la... but at restaurant........

I think ghost is illegal. But then again, who wouldnt want all channel at a damn cheap price

gov trying to control what we watch what we see and what we do, why so scare ? even thing not allow us to watch in satellite but iptv may available. how can they control ? put u in jail forever ?

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Added on October 11, 2012, 9:17 pmmean legal to use iptv but illegal to setup host or server ?


This post has been edited by khengyi82: Oct 11 2012, 09:17 PM

Did unify give u IPTV? (I still use stramyx)
If yes maybe wait their warning then can stop, and I don't think it is illegal

i was mention third party company provide iptv service. not unifi iptv, is other company other brand iptv service that come with a lot tv channel from taiwan and hong kong.

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Added on October 11, 2012, 9:29 pmgov monopoly cars industrial and satellite tv, what else ?

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Added on October 11, 2012, 9:35 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CXI99_15dM see this

This post has been edited by khengyi82: Oct 11 2012, 09:35 PM

IPTV service other than astro/TM provide is illegal. The one that media reports many days ago offers pornography channel.

There's another service in the market, using card sharing function. Still need to use astro dish to receive channel, and use other decoder. They does not offer pornography channel and it's verified legal by MCMC

mean we put a satellite dish to receive taiwan channel with satellite receiver is legal ?

The IPTV like durian TV was banned by MCMC recently

how about other iptv ? ban also ?

If got ppl report to MCMC, they will check and ban also...
I thk the next is Skyb0x @stro...

there is so many card sharing server around the malaysia, how they going to shut down ?

IPTV is illegal because its not filtered by gomen.

do u even know wat iptv is?

those box that need internet connection is to send u the code to decode astro satellite signal....

knn terms also dunno wan to talk iptv....

mean we watch tv channel in computer consider illegal ?

Theoretically, yes.

Yes, what more if using astro dish lol.

My neigbourhood almost all got astro dish outside but go to their house no astro at all. And they have use it for more than 2 years
1 man came and offered 'Free' Astro all channel. Just need to buy their own decoder and need internet connection.
When I tried to trace back where he's from, its just a chained-link from 1 man to another. Agent la supplier la.
But then again, it works so who cares. Pay RM30 got all channel including astro best on weekend.

Dunno what will happen if Astro guy come check and find out.

ohh there is call card sharing via internet. that save u a lot on subscription.

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Added on October 12, 2012, 3:04 pmthat mean every 1 watch internet tv in pc will jail la ? will get catch lo ?

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Added on October 12, 2012, 3:07 pmiptv is streamming tv channel through internet without satellite dish. To send the code to decode astro satellite signal via internet connection is card sharing it need astro satellite dish.

This post has been edited by khengyi82: Oct 12 2012, 03:07 PM

As long as these "IPTV Service" do not pay a single cent to these TV channels to have the rights, then it is illegal. IPTV or Cable TV have similar business principles. Astro has to pay a premium to HBO just to ensure HBO Movies can be part of Astro packages. In return, subscribers pay their monthly fee to cover their licensing fee. No different from Unifi offering their IPTV service. Some are free, some are not. Where it isn't, TM is paying those channels to have broadcasting rights.

So, the question is, those 3rd party company that provide IPTV service, are they legitimate? Afterall, your question is about legal or illegal right? You may be paying for this IPTV service. But are they paying for the rights? End users normally knows but choose to ignore it as long as it benefits them.

if the astro subscription is very cheap, i don't think those iptv service can survive. it just because gov monopoly that all malaysian want to watch satellite tv a MUST subscribe astro with price higher then sky.

No. This is why the dish says "Astro".

that mean put astro dish receive other satellite tv channel is ok ?

The dish has 'Astro' means its only for Astro. Other means to exploit it is nt legal. With the way our law is being enforced now, i dont think anyone will be caught so soon

wah then astro need to hire a lot people go to home 1 by 1 check all around the malaysia ? astro rich can hire so many people wo.

torrent download movies/videos are not filtered by goman, so it is illegal to torrent download movies/videos also?
But how goman going to stop people from torrent download movies/videos?

Torrent itself area already illegal because u do not pay the movie rights.
Gomen can stop it, just see whether they really want to do it or not

That one can watch full Astro channels I think.

Is it CBOX?

dreambox/skybox also can, as long as it has port to connect astro dish and legal service.

it Durian hd media player

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Added on October 13, 2012, 6:11 pmdreambox/skybox is satellite tv using astro dish, it just have a network port from the receiver to connect internet request code to decode channel.

IPTV is streaming satellite tv channel on internet without connect to any satellite dish. it just have a network port connect to router.

This post has been edited by khengyi82: Oct 13 2012, 06:11 PM

Torrent itself is not illegal, but the files inside may legal or may illegal.

Many free games developers and Linux distribution developers use torrent as one of the ways to distribute their free products, are those torrents they distribute illegal also?

I'm watching PPS...

Like i mentioned. its in "grey area" aka debatable..

For example, are all POLICE bad guys they accept bribe? No, there are many good POLICE but still ppl POLICE are bad ppl.
Just example, not to be taken literary ..

The illegal part is more towards the content provider I think.

As a media player it is not wrong at all.

like !

Iptv itself is legal.
Feeding astro channels via media player is illegal.
Watching movie streamed by YouTube over IPTV is not illegal, legal or not is YouTube's business.
Watching movie streamed by PPS over IPTV is not illegal, legal or not is PPS's business.

that mean iptv with satellite tv channel without astro channel in media player is legal ?

It doesn't have to be channel from Astro. Example, if they stream TV channel from TVB or HBO Asia (from Indo/Thai/Sing), it would still be illegal because they do it without the permission of content provider of the said channels.

Imagine this:

You have a wifi access with 10mbps Internet speed that you paid for it every month. You willing to spend around RM200 because you love to have all that bandwidth for yourself.

Suppose a hacker manage to hack into your wifi and use your 10mbps Internet line to make money for himself by selling YOUR Internet access to someone else for cheaper price (maybe RM10 per client @ 512kbps per month).

Don't you think what the hacker does is illegal? Same logic applies with iptv with the supposedly 'free' tv channel.

Of course some channels are meant to be stream free to iptv (1Malaysia TV for example). But as far as I know, premium channels like HBO or TVB does not.

so iptv stream hbo is illegel ?

Of course it is unless HBO provide an app with monthly subscription.

but that is belong to hbo, which is time warner company to be settle. does it belong to gov come catch ?

But Durian HD now can't watch anymore...

Time Warner can make report to local authority to catch the culprit lah.

i see, then what if we watch streaming tv channel in pc is hbo ? they will direct come to home catch us ? so fast can detect ? famous iptv software in pc is tvants and sopcast. if like that then gov every day not free lo, every day go people house catch user la. how they manage to do ? how gov prevent this happen ? punish till death ? or punish to jail whole life just for watch streaming tv channel for a hbo ?

Gov will surely punish till hang on rope. They can trace your IP. Watch out for the warning letter.

Cos they want to control everything, of cos IPTV is illegal lor.
Moreover if it is legal then you wont be seeing we only have Astro while not having other big satelite tv service provider liow. xD

Lol, so harsh.

Confirmed, cos who is going to settle with all those legality? What if the contents are reallllly sensitive? (Having YouTube alone is sufficient to make many countries headache, let alone many internet video programs from China or other coutries.)
Which authority or who will be responsible?
If the issue is really severe, Malaysia ISP is most likely to activate filtering IP policy. Then Malaysia will be like in China unable to connect to Facebook, Youtube and many other international website without the use of VPN services.

Relax bro, Malaysia belum take action yet. But I am not surprise if they are going to take action one day. The latest debate between the new stupid internet policy is always apply for the purpose of controling Malaysia news and media to not reach any further audience to keep things under their HANDs to control.

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Added on October 15, 2012, 4:41 pmBtw, I heard Maxis Fiber Optic service in the TnC does not allow torrent, if torrent then they really will sent you warning letter geh.

But if you pandai pandai, then still got methods to avoid geh.

This post has been edited by kwcheah: Oct 15 2012, 04:41 PM

maxis send u a warning letter so what ? maxis take action to catch u ? i don't think so.


in the end pandai pandai still a good way.

so any conclusion?

So here is the conclusion:

IPTV can watch. However the content itself might be illegally taken from other paid service.

Police will go after the source of the IPTV provider, shut down server that stream the show, and in the app that you use to watch IPTV will not work anymore.

that mean we watch iptv is not illegal, but the host is illegal ?

Here is the thing let me say this

I watch Hulu and BBC but I am subscribing to a VPN Service which fools Hulu and BBC iPlayer thinking that I am from US/UK

Is it legal ? - Well I am watching content from Hulu , they have gotten rights to publish their content. Its their problem and not mine. However some may argue that is illegal because I am watching these content out of United States/UK . It falls in the grey area anyway.

Let me put it this way

Assume that there are two of us . You are the content provider , in other words you steal content from other services (say CNN , but you did not get the rights , instead you put a camera in front of your TV which is connected to ASTRO and stream it across internet"). Now suppose I happen to find your stream and I continue to watching it

As far as the legal side is concern , they are not interested in coming after you (aka the people who watch these streams). They would go after the content provider aka the person who hosts it

ohh.. then i put the iptv media player on restaurant, mamak, office and retail shop is not a problem. the only thing is gov will go catch the streaming server or host. what if the host in china, taiwan and hongkong ? gov will take place go there catch them ?

Here is my question , what are your plans and whos the "IPTV provider". Are you talking about like PPS or one of those "get astro channels" IPTV ?

This post has been edited by prasys: Oct 16 2012, 11:49 PM

i was mention IPTV media player receiver, which is a receiver. not a software to be install in pc. is a stand alone or set-top-box receiver.

UniFi uses IPTV decoder as well and its legal , simple as that

If your IPTV decoder is something like Durian HD , its not. If you are using it for commercial purposes , you are just seeking for trouble.

Usually licensing authority won't go so far to sue an individual for watching illegal tv programs.

But if you are business and used it for commercial purpose, then it is a different case we are talking about. Authority probably will sue you for abusing the licensing.

Lol, personal use probably won't be sue cos they don't want to waste so much time and money while they can't afford to pay the fine too.

Commercial, they have money for business then sue maybe can get compensate.

But if in really bad times, to sue individual is still possible as they do have the right in doing it.

ohh.. then put in apartment, condo, Bangalo, and kampung is the best la

if u wan use use secretly, dun use it in public/commercial purpose

IPTV isn't illegal, but unlicensed broadcasting is. Unifi also got IPTV. Astro also got.

Lol
FYI, my friend from Sarawak told me that in his kampung, in some house behind the yard you can found big satellite disc which used to receive more than hundreds of TV programs from other countries such as from China, Taiwan, HongKong, Thailand and others.

i can see some area in kl also got la, what gov will do ? punish till u die ah ?

hahaha..only 20K summon by skmm if found...u PARABOLA

Chey, I though ONLY available in East Peninsular Malaysia.
Sorry for outdated info. xP

few friends stay in puchong install 6ft satellite dish for receive china satellite tv. some install for receive indonesia satellite

Any idea where did they get people to do it? DIY?

What's the charge rates like?

are u interested to install ?

At the moment: Nope.
In the future: Maybe, depends on what house I am living.

If living in a landed property with big compound, maybe can have one of those big dish geh.
(Since the story that I heard from my friend is that the dish is quite big, so most of the peoples from his Kampung actually hide it behind the house compound area where it is not easily spotted. )

illegal or not, depend what iptv you are playing

the big one like Astro or TMnet one sure is not illegal unless you want to use it for commercial purpose, like what u say for restaurant, you are required to get a public performance license, then only you consider not illegal, but if just play at home, u already pay the bill for the rights for home used only for Astro or TMnet

then how about astro channel in iptv media player ? also home used astro. so is legal ?

is the iptv media player supply by astro? if yes then it is legal, if not then illegal

but no one will come to your house and hunt for you and arrest you one le, but if u play illegally on your business premises, then u will have illegal problem if u don't have license to do that.

that mean if the astro supply from agent is illegal la ? because the agent not hire from astro ?

if the decoder is not from astro, or looks different from what astro decoder looks like, then it is a illegal decoder

This post has been edited by LuckyDucky: Oct 24 2012, 09:44 PM

how to find out is from astro ? astro receiver itself got so many model, got nokia, philips, thomson, and many more.

How confident are you about this? I have a friend that drives around in a Maxis truck with a dome on top. I wonder what it is for...........

i believe all also have astro logo on the decoder, i dont think those illegal decoder will slam an astro logo on their decoder

how u so sure illegal decoder don't have astro logo ? any prove ?

its not worth an effort for them to do so

Unifi gives HYPPTV not IPTV

hypptv is iptv...hypptv is their iptv branding ..lol

although they do but it is really obvious to tell which is it and which is not

Foreign IPTV is illegal because not filtered/censored by gov. Basically even the net and youtube is illegal because not filtered by gov. Yeah Communist Malaya sucks.

This post has been edited by automan5891: Nov 12 2012, 10:50 PM