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TSkhengyi82
post Oct 11 2012, 09:06 PM, updated 14y ago

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just asking is it illegal to use iptv media player at home or restaurant ?
TSkhengyi82
post Oct 11 2012, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(idealhometech @ Oct 11 2012, 09:09 PM)
At Home ok la... but at restaurant........
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gov trying to control what we watch what we see and what we do, why so scare ? even thing not allow us to watch in satellite but iptv may available. how can they control ? put u in jail forever ?


Added on October 11, 2012, 9:17 pm
QUOTE(forgot_86 @ Oct 11 2012, 09:14 PM)
I think ghost is illegal. But then again, who wouldnt want all channel at a damn cheap price
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mean legal to use iptv but illegal to setup host or server ?


This post has been edited by khengyi82: Oct 11 2012, 09:17 PM
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post Oct 11 2012, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(EarendurFefalas @ Oct 11 2012, 09:19 PM)
Did unify give u IPTV? (I still use stramyx)
If yes maybe wait their warning then can stop, and I don't think it is illegal
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i was mention third party company provide iptv service. not unifi iptv, is other company other brand iptv service that come with a lot tv channel from taiwan and hong kong.


Added on October 11, 2012, 9:29 pmgov monopoly cars industrial and satellite tv, what else ?


Added on October 11, 2012, 9:35 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CXI99_15dM see this

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TSkhengyi82
post Oct 11 2012, 09:50 PM

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mean we put a satellite dish to receive taiwan channel with satellite receiver is legal ?
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post Oct 11 2012, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(idealhometech @ Oct 11 2012, 10:00 PM)
The IPTV like durian TV was banned by MCMC recently
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how about other iptv ? ban also ?
TSkhengyi82
post Oct 11 2012, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(idealhometech @ Oct 11 2012, 10:20 PM)
If got ppl report to MCMC, they will check and ban also...
I thk the next is Skyb0x @stro...
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there is so many card sharing server around the malaysia, how they going to shut down ?
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post Oct 11 2012, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Oct 11 2012, 10:27 PM)
IPTV is illegal because its not filtered by gomen.
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mean we watch tv channel in computer consider illegal ?
TSkhengyi82
post Oct 12 2012, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(forgot_86 @ Oct 12 2012, 09:06 AM)
Yes, what more if using astro dish lol.

My neigbourhood almost all got astro dish outside but go to their house no astro at all. And they have use it for more than 2 years
1 man came and offered 'Free' Astro all channel. Just need to buy their own decoder and need internet connection.
When I tried to trace back where he's from, its just a chained-link from 1 man to another. Agent la supplier la.
But then again, it works so who cares. Pay RM30 got all channel including astro best on weekend.

Dunno what will happen if Astro guy come check and find out.
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ohh there is call card sharing via internet. that save u a lot on subscription.


Added on October 12, 2012, 3:04 pm
QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Oct 11 2012, 11:16 PM)
Theoretically, yes.
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that mean every 1 watch internet tv in pc will jail la ? will get catch lo ?


Added on October 12, 2012, 3:07 pm
QUOTE(nate_nightroad @ Oct 11 2012, 10:30 PM)
do u even know wat iptv is?

those box that need internet connection is to send u the code to decode astro satellite signal....

knn terms also dunno wan to talk iptv....
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iptv is streamming tv channel through internet without satellite dish. To send the code to decode astro satellite signal via internet connection is card sharing it need astro satellite dish.

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post Oct 12 2012, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(matthewctj @ Oct 12 2012, 03:08 PM)
As long as these "IPTV Service" do not pay a single cent to these TV channels to have the rights, then it is illegal. IPTV or Cable TV have similar business principles. Astro has to pay a premium to HBO just to ensure HBO Movies can be part of Astro packages. In return, subscribers pay their monthly fee to cover their licensing fee. No different from Unifi offering their IPTV service. Some are free, some are not. Where it isn't, TM is paying those channels to have broadcasting rights.

So, the question is, those 3rd party company that provide IPTV service, are they legitimate? Afterall, your question is about legal or illegal right? You may be paying for this IPTV service. But are they paying for the rights? End users normally knows but choose to ignore it as long as it benefits them.
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if the astro subscription is very cheap, i don't think those iptv service can survive. it just because gov monopoly that all malaysian want to watch satellite tv a MUST subscribe astro with price higher then sky.

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post Oct 12 2012, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(dkk @ Oct 12 2012, 04:53 PM)
No. This is why the dish says "Astro". smile.gif
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that mean put astro dish receive other satellite tv channel is ok ?
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post Oct 12 2012, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(forgot_86 @ Oct 12 2012, 08:13 PM)
The dish has 'Astro' means its only for Astro. Other means to exploit it is nt legal. With the way our law is being enforced now, i dont think anyone will be caught so soon
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wah then astro need to hire a lot people go to home 1 by 1 check all around the malaysia ? astro rich can hire so many people wo.
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post Oct 13 2012, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(ysoon @ Oct 13 2012, 11:56 AM)
That one can watch full Astro channels I think.

Is it CBOX?
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it Durian hd media player


Added on October 13, 2012, 6:11 pm
QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Oct 13 2012, 01:00 PM)
dreambox/skybox also can, as long as it has port to connect astro dish and legal service.
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dreambox/skybox is satellite tv using astro dish, it just have a network port from the receiver to connect internet request code to decode channel.

IPTV is streaming satellite tv channel on internet without connect to any satellite dish. it just have a network port connect to router.

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post Oct 14 2012, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Oct 13 2012, 10:54 PM)
Like i mentioned. its in "grey area" aka debatable..

For example, are all POLICE bad guys they accept bribe? No, there are many good POLICE but still ppl POLICE are bad ppl.
Just example, not to be taken literary ..
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post Oct 14 2012, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Oct 14 2012, 01:00 AM)
Iptv itself is legal.
Feeding astro channels via media player is illegal.
Watching movie streamed by YouTube over IPTV is not illegal, legal or not is YouTube's business.
Watching movie streamed by PPS over IPTV is not illegal, legal or not is PPS's business.
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that mean iptv with satellite tv channel without astro channel in media player is legal ?
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post Oct 14 2012, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(WhatMan @ Oct 14 2012, 07:05 PM)
It doesn't have to be channel from Astro. Example, if they stream TV channel from TVB or HBO Asia (from Indo/Thai/Sing), it would still be illegal because they do it without the permission of content provider of the said channels.

Imagine this:

You have a wifi access with 10mbps Internet speed that you paid for it every month. You willing to spend around RM200 because you love to have all that bandwidth for yourself.

Suppose a hacker manage to hack into your wifi and use your 10mbps Internet line to make money for himself by selling YOUR Internet access to someone else for cheaper price (maybe RM10 per client @ 512kbps per month).

Don't you think what the hacker does is illegal? Same logic applies with iptv with the supposedly 'free' tv channel.

Of course some channels are meant to be stream free to iptv (1Malaysia TV for example). But as far as I know, premium channels like HBO or TVB does not.
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so iptv stream hbo is illegel ?
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post Oct 15 2012, 12:07 AM

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but that is belong to hbo, which is time warner company to be settle. does it belong to gov come catch ?
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post Oct 15 2012, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(WhatMan @ Oct 15 2012, 01:41 PM)
Time Warner can make report to local authority to catch the culprit lah.

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i see, then what if we watch streaming tv channel in pc is hbo ? they will direct come to home catch us ? so fast can detect ? famous iptv software in pc is tvants and sopcast. if like that then gov every day not free lo, every day go people house catch user la. how they manage to do ? how gov prevent this happen ? punish till death ? or punish to jail whole life just for watch streaming tv channel for a hbo ?
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post Oct 15 2012, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(kwcheah @ Oct 15 2012, 04:40 PM)
Cos they want to control everything, of cos IPTV is illegal lor.
Moreover if it is legal then you wont be seeing we only have Astro while not having other big satelite tv service provider liow. xD
Lol, so harsh.
Confirmed, cos who is going to settle with all those legality? What if the contents are reallllly sensitive? (Having YouTube alone is sufficient to make many countries headache, let alone many internet video programs from China or other coutries.)
Which authority or who will be responsible?
If the issue is really severe, Malaysia ISP is most likely to activate filtering IP policy. Then Malaysia will be like in China unable to connect to Facebook, Youtube and many other international website without the use of VPN services.
Relax bro, Malaysia belum take action yet. But I am not surprise if they are going to take action one day. The latest debate between the new stupid internet policy is always apply for the purpose of controling Malaysia news and media to not reach any further audience to keep things under their HANDs to control.


Added on October 15, 2012, 4:41 pmBtw, I heard Maxis Fiber Optic service in the TnC does not allow torrent, if torrent then they really will sent you warning letter geh.

But if you pandai pandai, then still got methods to avoid geh. tongue.gif
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maxis send u a warning letter so what ? maxis take action to catch u ? i don't think so.


in the end pandai pandai still a good way.
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post Oct 16 2012, 11:17 PM

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so any conclusion?
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post Oct 16 2012, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(WhatMan @ Oct 16 2012, 11:22 PM)
So here is the conclusion:

IPTV can watch. However the content itself might be illegally taken from other paid service.

Police will go after the source of the IPTV provider, shut down server that stream the show, and in the app that you use to watch IPTV will not work anymore.
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that mean we watch iptv is not illegal, but the host is illegal ?


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