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 is it IPTV is illegel ?, internet TV channel is illegel ?

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post Oct 15 2012, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(khengyi82 @ Oct 13 2012, 06:08 PM)
it Durian hd media player


Added on October 13, 2012, 6:11 pm
dreambox/skybox is satellite tv using astro dish, it just have a network port from the receiver to connect internet request code to decode channel.

IPTV is streaming satellite tv channel on internet without connect to any satellite dish. it just have a network port connect to router.
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But Durian HD now can't watch anymore...

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post Oct 15 2012, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(khengyi82 @ Oct 15 2012, 12:07 AM)
but that is belong to hbo, which is time warner company to be settle. does it belong to gov come catch ?
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Time Warner can make report to local authority to catch the culprit lah.

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post Oct 15 2012, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(WhatMan @ Oct 15 2012, 01:41 PM)
Time Warner can make report to local authority to catch the culprit lah.

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i see, then what if we watch streaming tv channel in pc is hbo ? they will direct come to home catch us ? so fast can detect ? famous iptv software in pc is tvants and sopcast. if like that then gov every day not free lo, every day go people house catch user la. how they manage to do ? how gov prevent this happen ? punish till death ? or punish to jail whole life just for watch streaming tv channel for a hbo ?
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post Oct 15 2012, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(khengyi82 @ Oct 15 2012, 02:36 PM)
i see, then what if we watch streaming tv channel in pc is hbo ? they will direct come to home catch us ? so fast can detect ? famous iptv software in pc is tvants and sopcast. if like that then gov every day not free lo, every day go people house catch user la. how they manage to do ? how gov prevent this happen ? punish till death ? or punish to jail whole life just for watch streaming tv channel for a hbo ?
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Gov will surely punish till hang on rope. They can trace your IP. Watch out for the warning letter.
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post Oct 15 2012, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Oct 11 2012, 10:27 PM)
IPTV is illegal because its not filtered by gomen.
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Cos they want to control everything, of cos IPTV is illegal lor.
Moreover if it is legal then you wont be seeing we only have Astro while not having other big satelite tv service provider liow. xD

QUOTE(nate_nightroad @ Oct 11 2012, 10:30 PM)
do u even know wat iptv is?

those box that need internet connection is to send u the code to decode astro satellite signal....

knn terms also dunno wan to talk iptv....
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Lol, so harsh.

QUOTE(khengyi82 @ Oct 11 2012, 10:30 PM)
mean we watch tv channel in computer consider illegal ?
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Confirmed, cos who is going to settle with all those legality? What if the contents are reallllly sensitive? (Having YouTube alone is sufficient to make many countries headache, let alone many internet video programs from China or other coutries.)
Which authority or who will be responsible?
If the issue is really severe, Malaysia ISP is most likely to activate filtering IP policy. Then Malaysia will be like in China unable to connect to Facebook, Youtube and many other international website without the use of VPN services.

QUOTE(khengyi82 @ Oct 12 2012, 03:02 PM)
ohh there is call card sharing via internet. that save u a lot on subscription.


Added on October 12, 2012, 3:04 pm
that mean every 1 watch internet tv in pc will jail la ? will get catch lo ?


Added on October 12, 2012, 3:07 pm
iptv is streamming tv channel through internet without satellite dish. To send the code to decode astro satellite signal via internet connection is card sharing it need astro satellite dish.
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Relax bro, Malaysia belum take action yet. But I am not surprise if they are going to take action one day. The latest debate between the new stupid internet policy is always apply for the purpose of controling Malaysia news and media to not reach any further audience to keep things under their HANDs to control.


Added on October 15, 2012, 4:41 pmBtw, I heard Maxis Fiber Optic service in the TnC does not allow torrent, if torrent then they really will sent you warning letter geh.

But if you pandai pandai, then still got methods to avoid geh. tongue.gif

This post has been edited by kwcheah: Oct 15 2012, 04:41 PM
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post Oct 15 2012, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(kwcheah @ Oct 15 2012, 04:40 PM)
Cos they want to control everything, of cos IPTV is illegal lor.
Moreover if it is legal then you wont be seeing we only have Astro while not having other big satelite tv service provider liow. xD
Lol, so harsh.
Confirmed, cos who is going to settle with all those legality? What if the contents are reallllly sensitive? (Having YouTube alone is sufficient to make many countries headache, let alone many internet video programs from China or other coutries.)
Which authority or who will be responsible?
If the issue is really severe, Malaysia ISP is most likely to activate filtering IP policy. Then Malaysia will be like in China unable to connect to Facebook, Youtube and many other international website without the use of VPN services.
Relax bro, Malaysia belum take action yet. But I am not surprise if they are going to take action one day. The latest debate between the new stupid internet policy is always apply for the purpose of controling Malaysia news and media to not reach any further audience to keep things under their HANDs to control.


Added on October 15, 2012, 4:41 pmBtw, I heard Maxis Fiber Optic service in the TnC does not allow torrent, if torrent then they really will sent you warning letter geh.

But if you pandai pandai, then still got methods to avoid geh. tongue.gif
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maxis send u a warning letter so what ? maxis take action to catch u ? i don't think so.


in the end pandai pandai still a good way.
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post Oct 15 2012, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(khengyi82 @ Oct 12 2012, 05:54 PM)
that mean put astro dish receive other satellite tv channel is ok ?
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post Oct 16 2012, 11:17 PM

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so any conclusion?
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post Oct 16 2012, 11:22 PM

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So here is the conclusion:

IPTV can watch. However the content itself might be illegally taken from other paid service.

Police will go after the source of the IPTV provider, shut down server that stream the show, and in the app that you use to watch IPTV will not work anymore.


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post Oct 16 2012, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(WhatMan @ Oct 16 2012, 11:22 PM)
So here is the conclusion:

IPTV can watch. However the content itself might be illegally taken from other paid service.

Police will go after the source of the IPTV provider, shut down server that stream the show, and in the app that you use to watch IPTV will not work anymore.
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that mean we watch iptv is not illegal, but the host is illegal ?

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post Oct 16 2012, 11:34 PM

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Here is the thing let me say this

I watch Hulu and BBC but I am subscribing to a VPN Service which fools Hulu and BBC iPlayer thinking that I am from US/UK

Is it legal ? - Well I am watching content from Hulu , they have gotten rights to publish their content. Its their problem and not mine. However some may argue that is illegal because I am watching these content out of United States/UK . It falls in the grey area anyway.

Let me put it this way

Assume that there are two of us . You are the content provider , in other words you steal content from other services (say CNN , but you did not get the rights , instead you put a camera in front of your TV which is connected to ASTRO and stream it across internet"). Now suppose I happen to find your stream and I continue to watching it

As far as the legal side is concern , they are not interested in coming after you (aka the people who watch these streams). They would go after the content provider aka the person who hosts it

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post Oct 16 2012, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(prasys @ Oct 16 2012, 11:34 PM)
Here is the thing let me say this

I watch Hulu and BBC but I am subscribing to a VPN Service which fools Hulu and BBC iPlayer thinking that I am from US/UK

Is it legal ? - Well I am watching content from Hulu , they have gotten rights to publish their content. Its their problem and not mine. However some may argue that is illegal because I am watching these content out of United States/UK . It falls in the grey area anyway.

Let me put it this way

Assume that there are two of us . You are the content provider , in other words you steal content from other services (say CNN , but you did not get the rights , instead you put a camera in front of your TV which is connected to ASTRO and stream it across internet"). Now suppose I happen to find your stream and I continue to watching it

As far as the legal side is concern , they are not interested in coming after you (aka the people who watch these streams). They would go after the content provider aka the person who hosts it
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ohh.. then i put the iptv media player on restaurant, mamak, office and retail shop is not a problem. the only thing is gov will go catch the streaming server or host. what if the host in china, taiwan and hongkong ? gov will take place go there catch them ?
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post Oct 16 2012, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(khengyi82 @ Oct 16 2012, 11:40 PM)
ohh.. then i put the iptv media player on restaurant, mamak, office and retail shop is not a problem. the only thing is gov will go catch the streaming server or host. what if the host in china, taiwan and hongkong ? gov will take place go there catch them ?
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Here is my question , what are your plans and whos the "IPTV provider". Are you talking about like PPS or one of those "get astro channels" IPTV ?

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post Oct 16 2012, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(prasys @ Oct 16 2012, 11:48 PM)
Here is my question , what are your plans and whos the "IPTV provider". Are you talking about like PPS or one of those "get astro channels" IPTV ?
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i was mention IPTV media player receiver, which is a receiver. not a software to be install in pc. is a stand alone or set-top-box receiver.

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post Oct 17 2012, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(khengyi82 @ Oct 16 2012, 11:56 PM)
i was mention IPTV media player receiver, which is a receiver. not a software to be install in pc. is a stand alone or set-top-box receiver.
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UniFi uses IPTV decoder as well and its legal , simple as that

If your IPTV decoder is something like Durian HD , its not. If you are using it for commercial purposes , you are just seeking for trouble.
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post Oct 17 2012, 05:26 PM

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Usually licensing authority won't go so far to sue an individual for watching illegal tv programs.

But if you are business and used it for commercial purpose, then it is a different case we are talking about. Authority probably will sue you for abusing the licensing.

Lol, personal use probably won't be sue cos they don't want to waste so much time and money while they can't afford to pay the fine too.

Commercial, they have money for business then sue maybe can get compensate.

But if in really bad times, to sue individual is still possible as they do have the right in doing it.
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post Oct 17 2012, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(kwcheah @ Oct 17 2012, 05:26 PM)
Usually licensing authority won't go so far to sue an individual for watching illegal tv programs.

But if you are business and used it for commercial purpose, then it is a different case we are talking about. Authority probably will sue you for abusing the licensing.

Lol, personal use probably won't be sue cos they don't want to waste so much time and money while they can't afford to pay the fine too.

Commercial, they have money for business then sue maybe can get compensate.

But if in really bad times, to sue individual is still possible as they do have the right in doing it.
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ohh.. then put in apartment, condo, Bangalo, and kampung is the best la
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post Oct 17 2012, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(khengyi82 @ Oct 17 2012, 06:12 PM)
ohh.. then put in apartment, condo, Bangalo, and kampung is the best la
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if u wan use use secretly, dun use it in public/commercial purpose
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post Oct 18 2012, 01:20 PM

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IPTV isn't illegal, but unlicensed broadcasting is. Unifi also got IPTV. Astro also got.
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post Oct 18 2012, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(khengyi82 @ Oct 17 2012, 06:12 PM)
ohh.. then put in apartment, condo, Bangalo, and kampung is the best la
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Lol
FYI, my friend from Sarawak told me that in his kampung, in some house behind the yard you can found big satellite disc which used to receive more than hundreds of TV programs from other countries such as from China, Taiwan, HongKong, Thailand and others. brows.gif

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