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post Oct 12 2012, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(khengyi82 @ Oct 11 2012, 09:50 PM)
mean we put a satellite dish to receive taiwan channel with satellite receiver is legal ?
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No. This is why the dish says "Astro". smile.gif
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post Oct 12 2012, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(dkk @ Oct 12 2012, 04:53 PM)
No. This is why the dish says "Astro". smile.gif
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that mean put astro dish receive other satellite tv channel is ok ?
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post Oct 12 2012, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(khengyi82 @ Oct 12 2012, 05:54 PM)
that mean put astro dish receive other satellite tv channel is ok ?
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The dish has 'Astro' means its only for Astro. Other means to exploit it is nt legal. With the way our law is being enforced now, i dont think anyone will be caught so soon
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post Oct 12 2012, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(forgot_86 @ Oct 12 2012, 08:13 PM)
The dish has 'Astro' means its only for Astro. Other means to exploit it is nt legal. With the way our law is being enforced now, i dont think anyone will be caught so soon
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wah then astro need to hire a lot people go to home 1 by 1 check all around the malaysia ? astro rich can hire so many people wo.
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post Oct 13 2012, 04:18 AM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Oct 11 2012, 10:27 PM)
IPTV is illegal because its not filtered by gomen.
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torrent download movies/videos are not filtered by goman, so it is illegal to torrent download movies/videos also?
But how goman going to stop people from torrent download movies/videos?


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post Oct 13 2012, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(paranoid_guy @ Oct 13 2012, 04:18 AM)
torrent download movies/videos are not filtered by goman, so it is illegal to torrent download movies/videos also?
But how goman going to stop people from torrent download movies/videos?
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Torrent itself area already illegal because u do not pay the movie rights.
Gomen can stop it, just see whether they really want to do it or not
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QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Oct 11 2012, 09:44 PM)
IPTV service other than astro/TM provide is illegal. The one that media reports many days ago offers pornography channel.

There's another service in the market, using card sharing function. Still need to use astro dish to receive channel, and use other decoder. They does not offer pornography channel and it's verified legal by MCMC
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That one can watch full Astro channels I think.

Is it CBOX?


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post Oct 13 2012, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(ysoon @ Oct 13 2012, 11:56 AM)
That one can watch full Astro channels I think.

Is it CBOX?
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dreambox/skybox also can, as long as it has port to connect astro dish and legal service.
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post Oct 13 2012, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(ysoon @ Oct 13 2012, 11:56 AM)
That one can watch full Astro channels I think.

Is it CBOX?
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it Durian hd media player


Added on October 13, 2012, 6:11 pm
QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Oct 13 2012, 01:00 PM)
dreambox/skybox also can, as long as it has port to connect astro dish and legal service.
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dreambox/skybox is satellite tv using astro dish, it just have a network port from the receiver to connect internet request code to decode channel.

IPTV is streaming satellite tv channel on internet without connect to any satellite dish. it just have a network port connect to router.

This post has been edited by khengyi82: Oct 13 2012, 06:11 PM
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post Oct 13 2012, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Oct 13 2012, 08:52 AM)
Torrent itself area already illegal because u do not pay the movie rights.
Gomen can stop it, just see whether they really want to do it or not
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Torrent itself is not illegal, but the files inside may legal or may illegal.

Many free games developers and Linux distribution developers use torrent as one of the ways to distribute their free products, are those torrents they distribute illegal also?
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post Oct 13 2012, 10:10 PM

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I'm watching PPS...
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QUOTE(cshong @ Oct 13 2012, 10:00 PM)
Torrent itself is not illegal, but the files inside may legal or may illegal.

Many free games developers and Linux distribution developers use torrent as one of the ways to distribute their free products, are those torrents they distribute illegal also?
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Like i mentioned. its in "grey area" aka debatable..

For example, are all POLICE bad guys they accept bribe? No, there are many good POLICE but still ppl POLICE are bad ppl.
Just example, not to be taken literary ..
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post Oct 14 2012, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(khengyi82 @ Oct 11 2012, 09:06 PM)
just asking is it illegal to use iptv media player at home or restaurant ?
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The illegal part is more towards the content provider I think.

As a media player it is not wrong at all.


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post Oct 14 2012, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Oct 13 2012, 10:54 PM)
Like i mentioned. its in "grey area" aka debatable..

For example, are all POLICE bad guys they accept bribe? No, there are many good POLICE but still ppl POLICE are bad ppl.
Just example, not to be taken literary ..
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post Oct 14 2012, 01:00 AM

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Iptv itself is legal.
Feeding astro channels via media player is illegal.
Watching movie streamed by YouTube over IPTV is not illegal, legal or not is YouTube's business.
Watching movie streamed by PPS over IPTV is not illegal, legal or not is PPS's business.
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post Oct 14 2012, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Oct 14 2012, 01:00 AM)
Iptv itself is legal.
Feeding astro channels via media player is illegal.
Watching movie streamed by YouTube over IPTV is not illegal, legal or not is YouTube's business.
Watching movie streamed by PPS over IPTV is not illegal, legal or not is PPS's business.
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that mean iptv with satellite tv channel without astro channel in media player is legal ?
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post Oct 14 2012, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(khengyi82 @ Oct 14 2012, 05:33 PM)
that mean iptv with satellite tv channel without astro channel in media player is legal ?
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It doesn't have to be channel from Astro. Example, if they stream TV channel from TVB or HBO Asia (from Indo/Thai/Sing), it would still be illegal because they do it without the permission of content provider of the said channels.

Imagine this:

You have a wifi access with 10mbps Internet speed that you paid for it every month. You willing to spend around RM200 because you love to have all that bandwidth for yourself.

Suppose a hacker manage to hack into your wifi and use your 10mbps Internet line to make money for himself by selling YOUR Internet access to someone else for cheaper price (maybe RM10 per client @ 512kbps per month).

Don't you think what the hacker does is illegal? Same logic applies with iptv with the supposedly 'free' tv channel.

Of course some channels are meant to be stream free to iptv (1Malaysia TV for example). But as far as I know, premium channels like HBO or TVB does not.
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QUOTE(WhatMan @ Oct 14 2012, 07:05 PM)
It doesn't have to be channel from Astro. Example, if they stream TV channel from TVB or HBO Asia (from Indo/Thai/Sing), it would still be illegal because they do it without the permission of content provider of the said channels.

Imagine this:

You have a wifi access with 10mbps Internet speed that you paid for it every month. You willing to spend around RM200 because you love to have all that bandwidth for yourself.

Suppose a hacker manage to hack into your wifi and use your 10mbps Internet line to make money for himself by selling YOUR Internet access to someone else for cheaper price (maybe RM10 per client @ 512kbps per month).

Don't you think what the hacker does is illegal? Same logic applies with iptv with the supposedly 'free' tv channel.

Of course some channels are meant to be stream free to iptv (1Malaysia TV for example). But as far as I know, premium channels like HBO or TVB does not.
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so iptv stream hbo is illegel ?
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post Oct 14 2012, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(khengyi82 @ Oct 14 2012, 11:51 PM)
so iptv stream hbo is illegel  ?
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Of course it is unless HBO provide an app with monthly subscription.



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post Oct 15 2012, 12:07 AM

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but that is belong to hbo, which is time warner company to be settle. does it belong to gov come catch ?

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