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SUS2890
post Nov 23 2012, 05:14 PM

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@yuhhaur

i'm in the exactly same situation as you. =)
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post Nov 23 2012, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Nov 23 2012, 05:16 PM)
The more DPS you have, the more you gain from SoJ.

Assuming you have a 30% damage bonus from SoJ, if you have 100K DPS, you get 130K DPS. Additional 30K damage.

For DH, it is very normal to dish out 400K damage. Additional 30% would give you 520K DPS.
It is a lot of damage. My DH uses SoJ without a second thought.  laugh.gif
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That's not true man. You can't count it in such manner.

I got greedy and drop my bloody footprints for legacy zuni boots for the AS.

So i'm being forced to use reflection with AR on it to balance things up. My other ring is wailing host (4percent against elites and butt loads of DPS here)

With Wailing + Reflection, i get 196k unbuffed and 205k against elites.

With SoJ + Reflection, i get 165k unbuffed and 211k against elites.

i don't think the 6k extra is a big deal.

But yeah, if u consider Bola on elites, you gain like close to 40k extra on elites.

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post Nov 23 2012, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Nov 23 2012, 05:36 PM)
Well, may be it doesn't work on your build. I don't know.

For my build, without SOJ, my damage on the screen on elites is ranging from 280-650K (bola/imminent).
With SOJ, my damage on the screen is 360-900K.

P/S I have 29% damage bonus on elites + 25% bola damage bonus
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Mine has 29% to elites + 12% to bola.

i wanted to run your char thru my DPS spreadsheet but then i got lazy. So instead i tried testing your build in game. I have no idea how you get 360k - 900k with imminent doom. I think your bola just out DPS my CA:LfB. rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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post Nov 23 2012, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Nov 23 2012, 05:53 PM)
This i'm not sure. Your build is 10x better than mine.
I'll go make a video or get some screen shots tonight.
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Oh please =)

I remember the last screen shot you made, got me hook to bola. Never look back since. Maybe your SoJ screen shot might make me dump my ring.
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post Nov 24 2012, 01:04 PM

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Have you seen illusionist + RD + Health Link + "anything here" ?

Health link is the worst for LS dependent build. i.e: gloom DH users =(
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post Nov 26 2012, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Nov 26 2012, 10:20 AM)
We don't need dps in uber run. Let them DH/Wiz/Barb (oops did I not mentioned WD??) to do the killing blow. Monk's appearance in uber run is to keep the ubers in tact & spam MoC.
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that just is so wrong. Give me 1 week, if i'm willing to touch my gold reserve, i'll link you my monk that has no LS, no LOH but rapes mp10 elites/ubers.
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post Nov 26 2012, 11:54 AM

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@cowithgun

well, i'm debating with paranoid also so yeah. I'll show u guys, give me some time, parting with my gold that was meant for my DH wep is sakit hati la
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post Nov 26 2012, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(Slythape @ Nov 26 2012, 02:45 PM)
180k unbuffed dps, and my teammates pretty much do less or as much dps as me. My group is efficient, everyone does their job, but I'm still saying monk is not just a mantra b****, we can pull our own weight. Might as well contribute even more than just give MoC. Also our sheet dps is not the true amount of damage we're doing anyway.

Also, having a 300k dps dh or wiz means they are super gear and you're comparing with a 150k dps monk, which is averagely geared, so that's a bad comparison
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your group is efficient and people pull their weight yet you have to carry them? i'm sorry but i'm not able to comprehend that.

Sure u can't compare a super gear dh or wiz with an averagely geared monk. I agree on that, but then for us to get there, do u know how much gold we have to spend? The sad thing is, even when u do get there, is no guarantee that MP10 will be easy.
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post Nov 26 2012, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Nov 26 2012, 03:34 PM)
yup, monk thread is already v3, will be v4 soon... drop by often!

(some argue that monk spent too much time in forum instead of farming...  blush.gif )
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Haha.. I think lots of monk players... And the content is interesting also..
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post Nov 26 2012, 04:50 PM

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Azmodsn is peanuts.
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post Nov 26 2012, 05:06 PM

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Reflect is broken man. But yeah sb is doable..
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post Nov 27 2012, 06:45 PM

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i'm no monk player but i HAD a lvl 60 monk.

For helms, mempos are kings. however, for monk players, i think you guys are already hitting fast enough. no point paying extra say 200-400mil for 9IAS.

So, i think for you guys, Inna radiance > Mempo
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post Nov 27 2012, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Nov 27 2012, 06:23 PM)
Actuali the belt is very gooding if you have a black damage weapon.

+8% holy.
1% CC
Dex + Vit ..more than enough..+ High Amor.

Poor man WH. I swapped a WH (95Dex, 67 Vit, 160 Intel, 8% ASI and 46% CD) and I got extra 4k DPS only. That goes to show how good is the Inna belt for me..smile.gif
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Your WH good what. high dex, high vit and almost max CD. I swap inna's with WH last time and gain 1.5k DPS but i think as you progress and upgrade other parts, the WH will outshine inna's belt.
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post Nov 28 2012, 10:39 AM

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oh please guys, don't justify the reason for using stun/blind/whatsoever CC cuz you have a range class in your party.

p.s: we don't need them. If we choose that particular MP level, i think most of us are capable of handling the mobs there.
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post Nov 28 2012, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(kkng77 @ Nov 28 2012, 10:38 AM)
Is it means my Assault Sacrifice doing more dmg than dps showed?

My assault sacrifice has +4k dps to my striking timber in the game. In real, it will do more than 4k?
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well if you have elemental bonus damage from your gears then yeah...
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post Nov 28 2012, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 28 2012, 10:39 AM)
for my dmg and my mp5 i tend to have sw dropping. not to mention act 1/2 mob density isn't as high as act3.

not to mention, considering my low LS and/or dmg mitigation, i do tend to die a lot (not that i care that much) so having to rebuff SW is a b**** when you respawn with half spirit pool smile.gif

in a nutshell: what works for you, doesn't work for me.
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tend maybe you need to get better gears =)
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post Nov 28 2012, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 28 2012, 10:43 AM)
pretty much, lolz.

and again, this is even a valid topic after recent patching of buffing cc affecting monsters. prior to that, id just give you a slap for mentioning cc if you're not a cm wiz lol


Added on November 28, 2012, 10:44 am

of course i do. im not even 100k dmg laugh.gif

that said, even if im 100k dmg id want to get 4 piece inna anyways. id like to not worry about SW at all. (frantically finding barrels just to keep SW up? naw id like to take it ez)
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I wanted to make a 4p Nina that exploits LPSS few days ago. But was told it suck. Kinda get why too.
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post Nov 28 2012, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 28 2012, 10:47 AM)
who said i don't rely the AH lol? how can i even make gold or buy majority of gears i have today? (considering most of my friends no longer play to well, exchange/help each other on gear)

what i don't rely on the AH, is flipping it, and touching the RMAH button not even once smile.gif

im farming act 1/2 for keys, planning to collect a lot of them before giving uber bosses farming runs. hopefully by then i can do mp10 ubers for guaranteed drop, because in my experience, even at mp5, my drop rate of keys are like 20-30% despite i should be having 50% drop :/

ironically, on mp5 act 4, i got 3 plans out of 4 runs, thats 75% rate. the 1gold vendor was fun >.>
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Ubers are waste of time. i suggest you save up your machines and only do ubers when patches hit. I got my best roll during those days. Other than that, if the ring is sellable, i think i need to pay someone to take it off me.
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Nov 28 2012, 10:52 AM)
if you can do MP5, then you can consider to get a partner to do mp7 for higher drop chance.

ironically on mp3-5-7-8 act 4, 20+ runs nett me 0 plan. that is almost to 0% until one fine day I took it at mp4. Now heard invitation of A4 plan farming also vomit lol.
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You need to wash yourself with holy water man. I had a WD friend who had very bad luck with loot as well. Every time i link him my loots, he goes Fuuuuuuu
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post Nov 28 2012, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(dreaming @ Nov 28 2012, 10:57 AM)
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hi Quaz,
does it mean that the "Adds 6% to Lightning Damage" make it as black?
and, if it only have "+36% Damage" then it is just a normal weapon?
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An elemental weapon is a weapon with the following affixes: lightning, fire, poison, arcane, cold and holy. If you see +xxx min dmg and +xxx max dmg that's physical damage and those are black weapons.

So,

elemental weapon = black weapon/physical dmg weapon (1) + elemental damage(lightning, fire, poison .... )

When you see a elemental bonus on gears such as inna's belt (8percent holy damage), that bonus is being applied to (1) only.

so your overall unbuffed DPS = Your DPS without bonus + 8% * (1)

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