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post Nov 28 2012, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Nov 28 2012, 11:09 AM)
not all demon hunters manage high MP well.
in most cases melee have to come into the picture, which is part of the reason why ranged class seek for melee classes to coop for high mp farming/uber.

they dont solo for a reason.
if i dont switch my playstyle/skills in either solo or coop games. why do people even care to play coop with me? if all i do and care about is myself.
if a dh is too good, they dont need to go coop because it's going to slow them down.
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True but why attempt high MP in the first place if you know you can't make it? Getting carried through that gives me no satisfaction at all.

And by high MP i mean 9 and 10.

The reason why i co-op for MP10 is to remove the agro from me and to free up the sentry: GT skill slot. I think most DH here don't really care about stun/blind from barbs or monks that last for a few seconds. THe agro is what we care most.

p.s: cm wiz is a whole different story.
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post Nov 28 2012, 11:33 AM

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The small print damage range at your weapon stats is the total overall DPS that has elemental damage included for elemental weapons.

To get the physical range for elemental weapons, you need to subtract that "small print damage range" with the added elemental damage.


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QUOTE(kkng77 @ Nov 28 2012, 11:32 AM)
I am really dun get it... sorry bro...

in conclusion, is physical dmg weapon better or elemental weapon better? if both dps are same.
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Depends. Do you have buffs from other gears? If yes, physical is better, if no, both are equal.

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post Nov 28 2012, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Nov 28 2012, 11:34 AM)
it's not about satisfaction cruising MP9-10 alone.
i prefer coop games anytime better than solo. games are not meant to solo. i would play ps3 if i want to go solo.

any by coop i mean having different classes depending on each other in a game. like how you feel when u're raiding in a 20man raid. that is my part of satisfaction in game. i wont feel frustrated or sad if i have to depend on a monk/barb if i play DH. it thrills me how people play covering for each other in the game. not play and save themselves in the game.
it's my fault if ranged dies if im the tank. i dont feel like oh he/she's a noob because he/she dies and i have to keep reviving this fella. it means im playing it wrongly.

we're looking from different perspective.
the way u described is like 4 of you are playing individually in a coop game.
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well yeah different perspective as you're coming from the i'm a support hero perspective where else DH are individualistic heroes to begin with.
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post Nov 28 2012, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Nov 28 2012, 11:31 AM)
The barb that does hack and smash with bash -Clobber will do so from start to finish until that uber (for instance, the realm infested with/by Zoltan Kulle & SB) is dead ...no ww whatsoever! however with intermittent Rend -Lacerate ...not sure which lousy barb with crap skills you've been checking out!
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what are you talking about?

what lousy barb with crap skills?

i merely mention that we DH probably don't really need the stun/blind from you guys. What we wanted most is to not get focused fire by the mobs (but somehow it always happen anyways).
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post Nov 28 2012, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Nov 28 2012, 11:45 AM)
dont really get where you're going.
no matter which class i pick. i still prefer coop.  ranged can be dh or wiz.
i never said dh are individualistic heroes or that monks are not.
if by my example you feel that im generalizing dh as a weak class, you dont get my point right.

ranged = high dmg, low defence
melee = low dmg, high defence

games are meant to be this way, for you to play coop. else why not jsut roll a balanced class for everyone.
hence, my example using monk versus dh.
every class has their own capabilities of going solo and coop. my preference is coop, which is why i dont see the solo point of view to be applied in coop games.
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I never said u're trying to say DH are weak and individualistic. Is my view that DH are individualistic classes.

The diablo franchise was never a co-op game to begin with. I believe diablo 3 isn't entirely a co-op game either. The balance of each class isn't there yet but i think with upcoming patches, u'll see a better class balance.

again, D3 is not a co-op game.
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post Nov 28 2012, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 28 2012, 11:50 AM)
thinking out loud: it'd be funny to have paranoid arguing about solo vs coop against a semi/pro starcraft player, ROFL!
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and yeah, i played semi/pro dota. That's a co-op game.
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post Nov 28 2012, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Nov 28 2012, 11:55 AM)
and the thread heated up again...

(planning to grab popcorn, but sold out)
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which is why i love the monk thread. So much debate/argument. =D

the other threads are dull.
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post Nov 28 2012, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(Ricgatebecko @ Nov 28 2012, 11:57 AM)
True, I don't feel like I'm carrying you or vice-versa in a party. MOC gave me huge dmg buff and Warcry returns good defensive buff for you as an example. It's about cohesive teamwork and most importantly having fun in game is what most gamers seek in a party. Btw, let's slain minions from hell together soon bro thumbup.gif
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Yeah you get satisfaction in an actual game that requires teamwork. I agree with you that fun is what we seek.

BUT

Diablo 3 is not a co-op game or a game that requires cohesive teamwork. I'm sorry but pressing a button to activate mantra or warcry is not teamwork. Constantly spamming mantra or using warcry when the time runs out is not teamwork either.
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post Nov 28 2012, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Nov 28 2012, 11:58 AM)
...that's the reason certain barbs play Bash -Clobber to perma-stun uber for instance such as ZK doesn't get an opportunity to cast his fireball to one shot that DH (glass-cannon build) dpser. I've seen this scenario many times already.
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don't play with glass canons then. I hate them. At least be able to take 2-3 shots la.
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post Nov 28 2012, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(Ricgatebecko @ Nov 28 2012, 12:11 PM)
I can see where you're going but I consider having party members being active in game and in-range within each other to provide buffs and support as teamwork. Resurrection(s) in boss/uber fights are good example of teamwork too where individuals doesn't need to restart the fight all over again in case of possible death. Peace~
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Okay fair enough. I was being too extreme. You are right, doing those does give you a sense of teamwork. Thank you.
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post Nov 28 2012, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(waklu @ Nov 28 2012, 07:31 PM)
its just 5k DPS upgrade for 150M?? FUUUU BLIZZ!!!

ok see other item first.. the urge...
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if somehow you cave into the temptation to upgrade like how i did few weeks ago, u're not alone cuz i made a 3k DPS upgrade for 265mil.

You'll never walk alone (no, i support Man U)
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post Nov 29 2012, 01:15 PM

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post Nov 29 2012, 06:15 PM

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@Coconut

LOL. Is the same bro.
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post Nov 30 2012, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(Bringitawn @ Nov 30 2012, 11:34 AM)
Just did a check for my EHP and mine's at 280EHP. Man, prolly need to change a couple of gears to increase that EHP
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d3up.com???
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post Nov 30 2012, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(Bringitawn @ Nov 30 2012, 11:40 AM)
Yep!
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you're not alone.

235k EHP =) Maybe 300++ with amethyst in helm..

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post Nov 30 2012, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Nov 30 2012, 12:24 PM)
d3up 's EHP is lower compared to diabloprogress website.
my EHP is 642k in diabloprogress but only 480k in d3up.
don't know which is the accurate one
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take the higher one, makes u feel better =)
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post Nov 30 2012, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(morningstar5770 @ Nov 30 2012, 06:26 PM)
wanna ask some noob question ==
does mantra of conviction add dmg for other class ? if it does , how many % ==
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it debuffs the mobs to receive additional dmg so indirectly u're dealing more damage to them.

48percent for the first 3 seconds and 24percent for the remaining.
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post Dec 2 2012, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(sangtupperware @ Dec 2 2012, 04:55 PM)
heres another music mostly from "2 steps from hell" that will make u feel like in real D3/ancient world.. thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif ...it never fails me everytimes....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3P2iaWma-Y

u will cry if u died in the game...seriously... biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif ...so patriotic/encouraging/heart touching/sad line of war songs...lol
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we listen to the same music !
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post Dec 3 2012, 04:20 PM

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Or just play using fists. Skorn looks wrong on a monk man. If Skorn users are just looking for paper DPS, why not use IK boulder breaker, 1.6k DPS. wink.gif
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post Dec 3 2012, 04:32 PM

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oh yeah, i forgot. LOL.

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