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anechoic
post Nov 30 2012, 12:58 PM

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I got 439k EHP but only about 45k DPS...lol


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post Nov 30 2012, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(kkng77 @ Nov 30 2012, 10:06 AM)
Hi all, this is my build currently,

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/KitDee-1948/hero/5923257

kindly advise wat should i upgrade for next, thx.
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100k DPS unbuff???

Nice set up..good tanking monk. Dunno what you want to upgrade..more DPS..then I will advise of getting more CC. The Nats ring is pretty weak..low dex, no crit or average damage. Get one with average damage at least..as that will boost your DPS since your weapons are sub 1k.

Other than that, the gloves also can be upgraded...a trifecta will improve DPS. The Vile Ward can get better..as dex pretty low for that. Get 1 with 200 Dex, Some vit and single res..should be about 10M, then you can drop some AR and Vit from others and get CC/ Dex.

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post Nov 30 2012, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Nov 30 2012, 02:37 PM)
100k DPS unbuff???

Nice set up..good tanking monk. Dunno what you want to upgrade..more DPS..then I will advise of getting more CC. The Nats ring is pretty weak..low dex, no crit or average damage. Get one with average damage at least..as that will boost your DPS since your weapons are sub 1k.

Other than that, the gloves also can be upgraded...a trifecta will improve DPS. The Vile Ward can get better..as dex pretty low for that. Get 1 with 200 Dex, Some vit and single res..should be about 10M, then you can drop some AR and Vit from others and get CC/ Dex.
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I wonder what's your Elemental Resistance? Also, LS is better than LoH? How far have you gone with that character of yours? Can you farm in MP10?

This is my build, but i need to know what can i do to increase the damage?


Added on November 30, 2012, 4:46 pm
QUOTE(kkng77 @ Nov 30 2012, 10:06 AM)
Hi all, this is my build currently,

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/KitDee-1948/hero/5923257

kindly advise wat should i upgrade for next, thx.
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I wonder how you manage to increase your armor at the same time deal such a killer DPS, what about your Elemental Resists? I have about 846.

I need to increase my DMG, any ideas where i can invest on?

This post has been edited by yangkee: Nov 30 2012, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE(yangkee @ Nov 30 2012, 04:39 PM)
I wonder what's your Elemental Resistance? Also, LS is better than LoH? How far have you gone with that character of yours? Can you farm in MP10?

This is my build, but i need to know what can i do to increase the damage?


Added on November 30, 2012, 4:46 pm

I wonder how you manage to increase your armor at the same time deal such a killer DPS, what about your Elemental Resists? I have about 846.

I need to increase my DMG, any ideas where i can invest on?
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at least post you profile la, no profile how to advise??
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QUOTE(yangkee @ Nov 30 2012, 04:39 PM)
I wonder what's your Elemental Resistance? Also, LS is better than LoH? How far have you gone with that character of yours? Can you farm in MP10?

This is my build, but i need to know what can i do to increase the damage?


Added on November 30, 2012, 4:46 pm

I wonder how you manage to increase your armor at the same time deal such a killer DPS, what about your Elemental Resists? I have about 846.

I need to increase my DMG, any ideas where i can invest on?
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Hi there..

I am sitting at 103k DPS unbuff with a WKL off hand, with 2.9 LS and 1.2k LoH, 35k Vit, 560 AR 5k Armor. I cant see your build..sad.gif and I dont know how to link my profile here..

Just a quick answer to your Q. LS is better than LoH once you reach end game. IMHO once you past 70k DPS unbuff treshold, LS will scale better compared with LoH. But if use FoT, LoH actually returns tremedous gains in life as FoT hits 3 times (2x, 2x and last hit) and procs 75% for first 4 hits and 35% on last hit. Hence eg if you have 1000 loH, you actually get 1.5k +1.5k + 350 =3.35k for one cycle of FoT. In comparison, assuming you deal 100k damage, with 3% LS, you gain 0.2x3%x100k =1.2k per hit (as Fot hit 2x), hence you can see the major difference once you reach high DPS. Plus LS will benefit from SW , where 40% damage dealt x 0.2x3% returns and AOE as well. That is why I chose to have both. LS and LoH. LPSS is also good but you need to stack it to 180 to replace either LS or LoH efficiently.

To answer you second question, I can farm with optimal and minimal deaths at MP7, max at MP9 solo..dont really go MP10 as it really slow and not efficient as 100k DPS is not enough, you probably need 150k DPS to farm MP10 efficiently. Its hard for me to upgrade as I want to keep my WKL which is only 930DPS, and I really hate using a EF. Also, cant really drop more AR as at 560..things do get hairy sometimes especially with molten+reflects+electricfied....

This post has been edited by gladfly: Nov 30 2012, 05:08 PM
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post Nov 30 2012, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(kkng77 @ Nov 30 2012, 10:06 AM)
Hi all, this is my build currently,

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/KitDee-1948/hero/5923257

kindly advise wat should i upgrade for next, thx.
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Nice build! Amazing Hirefire ring! You should be doing fine even in MP10. But do consider changing Hard Target to MoC. brows.gif Your friends will appreciate it.

But if you want to upgrade... DONT.

Not at the moment... gem is still expensive...

Not at the moment... coz you stack too much Physical resist, not enough All Resist. Rumurs about patch 1.07 (around the conner, may be next month), Bliz will work on Monk. After 2 times warning (1.04, 1.05) OWE may finally get nerf. No, I am not looking at 80% nerf. Bliz don't normally change anything unless it is absolutely necessary and the changes are often not small. OK, some argue that may be there won't be nerf. Well, your guess is as good as mine. brows.gif Until then, I rather save my gold for something else.

Not at the moment... nice gears are dropping in price... if u can do well now, what is the rush?

Not at the moment... PVP may be around the conner...

All speculation, no substance. Yup. rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 30 2012, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Nov 30 2012, 05:19 PM)
Nice build! Amazing Hirefire ring! You should be doing fine even in MP10. But do consider changing Hard Target to MoC.  brows.gif Your friends will appreciate it.

But if you want to upgrade... DONT.

Not at the moment... gem is still expensive...

Not at the moment... coz you stack too much Physical resist, not enough All Resist. Rumurs about patch 1.07 (around the conner, may be next month), Bliz will work on Monk. After 2 times warning (1.04, 1.05) OWE may finally get nerf. No, I am not looking at 80% nerf. Bliz don't normally change anything unless it is absolutely necessary and the changes are often not small. OK, some argue that may be there won't be nerf. Well, your guess is as good as mine.  brows.gif Until then, I rather save my gold for something else.

Not at the moment... nice gears are dropping in price... if u can do well now, what is the rush?

Not at the moment... PVP may be around the conner...

All speculation, no substance. Yup.  rolleyes.gif
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I'm highly motivated and really determine to drop OWE from my baby monk build, hopefully blizz will buff other (less-popular or not-in-demand) passive skills instead ...for instance; my barb has no need to spam WarCry -Impunity anymore or can live without it at all.

This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Nov 30 2012, 05:32 PM
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post Nov 30 2012, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Nov 30 2012, 05:27 PM)
I'm highly motivated and really determine to drop OWE from my baby monk build, hopefully blizz will buff other (less-popular or not-in-demand) passive skills instead ...for instance; my barb has no need to spam WarCry -Impunity anymore or can live without it at all.
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unless u're gonna build ur monk with your wallet, you need OWE.

or get a IMBA loot to make you rich first.
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QUOTE(paranoid @ Nov 30 2012, 05:42 PM)
unless u're gonna build ur monk with your wallet, you need OWE.

or get a IMBA loot to make you rich first.
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node node..

without using OwE, you will need unlimited supply of cash nod.gif
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QUOTE(paranoid @ Nov 30 2012, 05:42 PM)
unless u're gonna build ur monk with your wallet, you need OWE.

or get a IMBA loot to make you rich first.
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well, you can save a lot of $ if follow the Beggar Monk built!

And the story of Beggar Monk unfold...

DPS Build
- all out DPS
- min 80k DPS
- min 400 resist, 4000 armor
- min 25k HP
- god-like in MP2 and below
- stack resist!
- gear with no resist? weapon with no LoH/LS? no problem.
- estimated cost (5mil or lower (no basis))

Tanky Build
- higher defense for mp8 and above
- party friendly
- MoC friendly
- stack all double defense (1 resist+all resist)
- aim for armor too
- 6xx DPS weapon with vit, LoH, LS? grap it!
- can even use Keen Eye for 50% armor boost
- estimated cost (5mil or lower (again, just estimation))

Mix and match gear both build for any MP in between...

This post has been edited by cowithgun: Nov 30 2012, 06:14 PM
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post Nov 30 2012, 06:11 PM

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Slowly moving away from OwE when I smell the passive is getting workout soon.

AR Monk here I come!


Added on November 30, 2012, 6:13 pm
QUOTE(cowithgun @ Nov 30 2012, 06:09 PM)
well, you can save a lot of $ if follow the Beggar Monk built!

And the story of Beggar Monk unfold...

DPS Build
- all out DPS
- min 80k DPS
- min 400 resist, 4000 armor
- min 25k HP
- god-like in MP2 and below
- stack resist!
- estimated cost (5mil or lower (no basis))

Mix and match gear both build for any MP in between...
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80k dps with only 5mil hmm.gif

This post has been edited by yuhhaur: Nov 30 2012, 06:13 PM
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Nov 30 2012, 06:11 PM)

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80k dps with only 5mil hmm.gif
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Too low? Think can achieved by:

1) Tal Rasha's Relentless Pursuit (8% IAS) - < 1mil
2) Andariel's Visage (8% IAS + 4.5 CC) - < 1mil
3) Inna's Favor (8% holy damage) < 1mil
4) 1k weapon with socket *2 < 1mil
5. Glove with no vit, no resist but high dex, > 8 CC, plus the rest ~ 1mil

Do-able?
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post Nov 30 2012, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Nov 30 2012, 06:19 PM)
Too low? Think can achieved by:

1) Tal Rasha's Relentless Pursuit (8% IAS) - < 1mil
2) Andariel's Visage (8% IAS + 4.5 CC) - < 1mil
3) Inna's Favor (8% holy damage) < 1mil
4) 1k weapon with socket *2 < 1mil
5. Glove with no vit, no resist but high dex, > 8 CC, plus the rest ~ 1mil

Do-able?
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Nope...I dont think so its possible... 10M maybe can 80k DPS unbuff

As you mentioned ...how to stack dex? 1,2 and 3 low dex..

You need to max dex from boots and gloves..which limits your gloves to NO CD/ASI if you chose CC,

Good luck in trying though...





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post Nov 30 2012, 06:26 PM

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wanna ask some noob question ==
does mantra of conviction add dmg for other class ? if it does , how many % ==
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QUOTE(morningstar5770 @ Nov 30 2012, 06:26 PM)
wanna ask some noob question ==
does mantra of conviction add dmg for other class ? if it does , how many % ==
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it debuffs the mobs to receive additional dmg so indirectly u're dealing more damage to them.

48percent for the first 3 seconds and 24percent for the remaining.
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post Nov 30 2012, 06:36 PM

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when activated with overawe enemies near the monk with the mantra will take 48% more damage. Not activated it will be 24% with overawe
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post Nov 30 2012, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Nov 30 2012, 06:25 PM)
Nope...I dont think so its possible... 10M maybe can 80k DPS unbuff

As you mentioned ...how to stack dex? 1,2 and 3 low dex..

You need to max dex from boots and gloves..which limits your gloves to NO CD/ASI if you chose CC,

Good luck in trying though...
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How about 5mil + whatever gear you already using? brows.gif

I just check AH, I think it is DEFINITELY do-able.

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anechoic
post Nov 30 2012, 07:05 PM

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really ar?? wah..then i can upgrade for more DPS liao..
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QUOTE(anechoic @ Nov 30 2012, 07:05 PM)
really ar?? wah..then i can upgrade for more DPS liao..
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ja! i really think can be done. can you share your profile to me? you will be an excellent candidate for this little experiment since you have 439k EHP but only about 45k DPS.

I will try search for some AH item to boost your DPS to 80k and use http://d3up.com to simulate the result and calculate the cost. I have a feeling that it will be way less than 5mil.
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Guys need help upgrading my char notworthy.gif icon_question.gif

this is my profile
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/MKRuleZ...9/hero/15562030

please list area which i should concentrate and which stat should i not be focusing on icon_question.gif

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