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post Nov 6 2012, 12:17 PM

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Been awhile since I've been here, started playing when 1.0.5 and monk's build still the same ol' cookie cutter thunderclap/sweeping wind.

Tried out bells and seven sided strike, seems pretty mediocre compared to blind, maybe I'd need a sick good skorn to make it work.

The prices for gear with AR compared to OWE resist is too much, going to have trouble replacing my gear without sacrificing too much dps or defensive stats sad.gif


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post Nov 6 2012, 12:20 PM

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Thundercap gives the best dps, plus it has faster attacks and I love the teleport, too bad its such a stale skill that I've been using since I got the rune at lower levels

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post Nov 6 2012, 12:43 PM

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Thats what I love and hate about monks sometime, you just left click and spam MoC every 4 seconds, most of the time just hold down left click, brainless easymode farming!

Was talking to my cm/ww friend over skype and he was busy spamming all his buttons while here I am, holding down left click
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post Nov 6 2012, 01:11 PM

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Thunderclap has the teleport which increases your efficiency and also this:

Generates Spirit faster than other Spirit-generating skills due to the high attack speed.
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post Nov 6 2012, 01:19 PM

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I do love to annoy my friends with echoing fury, especially in mp8 and molten packs.

Why do they have to torture us to get an echoing fury sad.gif Oh well, not really a problem solo.
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post Nov 6 2012, 01:22 PM

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Yeah, it's from sweeping wind: cyclone.
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post Nov 6 2012, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Nov 6 2012, 01:24 PM)

what are the skills you using now? i still uses 7SS for that few secs of death/freeze/molten escape. hehe...and gain some life out of it too.
My build: FoT, 7SS, Serenity, Blind 30% dmg, SW cyclone, MoC Overawe.
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Using FoT, Sweeping Wind : Cyclone, Blind with 30% damage, Serenity, MoC: Overawe and Breath of Heaven with 15% damage, tried 7SS, I prefer blind to get a better 'snapshot' dps for my Sweeping Wind : Cyclone.

Basically for SW:C, it takes a snapshot of the dps when it is cast, lets say you have frenzy shrine and all your monk buffs including blind, and you cast SW:C, if you manage to keep the SW:C buff going on, even without all the damage buff later on, the SW:C deals the damage when the snapshot was taken.

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post Nov 6 2012, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 6 2012, 01:51 PM)
my sis characters have 10-20k more dmg than i do. however i kill faster, and with less effort just standing still left clicking. they went too happy about it when they see me play LOL!
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Monk's pretty much an effortless class to play especially if you have decent gear, pretty funny when I see some classes have a "rotation", while we just faceroll through.
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post Nov 6 2012, 03:35 PM

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Fighting reflect damage mobs with health link in high mps with less than 3% lifesteal is still a pain without enough defenses, especially if they have molten.
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post Nov 6 2012, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Nov 6 2012, 03:45 PM)
Yes! Thanks for the info. I read all your post too about having difficulties using MoC after MP8, etc. That surprise me! Coz you have great armor and resist.

So, I am quite interested in how others are doing too.
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Most problems arise for me in mp8 and above is molten combo with stuff like reflect damage cause I'm using my echoing fury and I just fear them away thus making it annoyingly hard to hit, usually if I do get my stuff up, not really a problem, its an issue if you party with lower geared people if you're doing mp8.

Other than that, having 2.8% lifesteal is pretty ok, and farming mp8 is pretty pointless anyway, faster to farm in mp1 or 2

http://d3up.com/b/93141

Here's my stats, probably looking to get a decent vile ward for more defensive stats, should be better
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post Nov 6 2012, 03:57 PM

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Can just stand in mp10 with another party member(dead) azmodan
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post Nov 6 2012, 04:01 PM

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just facetank
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post Nov 6 2012, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Nov 6 2012, 04:08 PM)
BUT... i m so scare Bliz nerf OWE in next patch... according to Blue post, they will work on Monk next...

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The strongest monk defensive skill is One With Everything. We've mentioned it before and it bears repeating - this is something we would like to fix someday, but we're going to take our time. Changes to One With Everything heavily impact existing monk gear. We still plan on addressing this in the future but will do so in a way that does not invalidate the gear monks have invested in.


Thats the blizzard quote, they want to fix/change it but they do not want the money we've spent on our gear to be invalid, so they might do things like 80% effectiveness of the resist? something like that I guess, so many monks i've seen are jumping ship to AR, true it has higher resist potential but the cost in return is not worth it for me and we get the short end of the stick as our set items has no initial AR roll compared to lets say barbs or WD. They need to fix those first before fixing OWE.

Just my 2c.

Also, screw witching hour, its like 20k dps gain but I lose every bit of defensive stats a belt can give unless I have billions lying around to get a good one

QUOTE(SleepEverywhere @ Nov 6 2012, 04:12 PM)
yes i need to kite abit in higher MP but its not as bad as u think...add me aventador#1536 we can play together, i am farming key at MP9(rarely die) and only doing mp10 uber runs(tanking ghom poison cloud---constant dmg) and u dont need LoH, thats whats the top monks told me, they are all 150-250k...I am not here to argue with u since i am just a noob that listen to my sifus...i have them on list u can argue with them...not me XD. And yes u are right if i stop hitting i will die, but isnt that the same to everyone at mp10? O_O
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Pretty much having 5% lifesteal with high dps you don't need LoH as you can gain more by getting more offensive stats such as crit damage/attackspeed or crit compared to getting something with life on hit on amulets/rings/weapons.

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post Nov 6 2012, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Nov 6 2012, 04:27 PM)
I also cannot let go of my 600effective armor MAX60 resist 5%Life belt for the witching hour. Did the simulation and... Just not my cup of tea.

100k dpser sifu advise abit what to upgrade? Stucked at 60k dps
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/yuhhaur-1278/hero/9090824


Added on November 6, 2012, 4:28 pmNOTE: boot only merely for its pickup+move speed for speedrun.
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If possible change your neck, get something with both crit and crit damage with dex or crit with dex and average damage, neck pieces give one of the most dps there.

Could change your gloves to something with crit damage instead of attack speed

Maybe change your axe to something with higher dps and crit damage and a socket, it'll improve your dps by lots
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post Nov 7 2012, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Nov 7 2012, 11:58 AM)
and not to mention breaking wave rune adds on 10% damage taken to all mobs, applies to the whole party apart from the MoC's 48%. that's 58% additional debuff!
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Its multiplicative, so it wont be 58% but yeah, its pretty decent

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post Nov 7 2012, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Nov 7 2012, 12:03 PM)
so u mean it's 48+4.8?
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post Nov 7 2012, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Nov 7 2012, 12:24 PM)
hahahaha this is weird, so does this mean
if i spam BoH then MoC, it's 10+4.8.
just trolling myself lol
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no it doesnt work that way, as BoH is damage to your stat sheet, while MoC is on the monster
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post Nov 7 2012, 07:11 PM

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Been trying out this tempest rush mp0 act 3 alkaizer run build for a few days now, seems fun and fast exp and decent loots, too bad I don't loot most of the rares and skip gold thats not in the way, haven't count how much exp I get per run but the run seems to take about 10-15mins and about 8-10m exp per run

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post Nov 8 2012, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Nov 8 2012, 03:59 PM)
I MoC till MP6. CC now standing at 40%. Stop buffing CC, instead I am looking for CD+IAS.
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Nothing wrong with getting more CC if you can afford it while getting CD and IAS, for me, I'm getting 2.2k dps per 1% CC and 2.1k dps per 10% CD which is a decent ratio, IAS on the other hand gives me 1.1k per 1%, still good.

All depends on whether you can afford these items, especially if they're a decently rolled item CC and CD or a trifecta. Also dex is also important too, and so is average damage on rings/amulet. Some people totally ignore the average damage. Even elemental damage is good too! In the end, it is nice to just stack everything equally.

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post Nov 8 2012, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Nov 8 2012, 04:36 PM)
how to do the tempest rush thing?
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Basically you get minimum 3pc Inna for the set bonus, get a stone of jordan with minumum 1.5 spirit regen, inna's radiance with 1.5 spirit regen, spirit regen on weapon if you dont lose too much dps.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk...;Zcb!abYZcZ

Thats the basic skill set, you can change blind with something else, but the main point is having tempest rush.

So this build you just cast mantra then blind and sweeping wind and just tempest rush through every mob, stopping to pick up legendaries or certain items you'd want to pick up as it is not efficient to pick up every rares and pile of gold.

Do the Alkaizer run or whatever run with the highest mob density, so you just tempest rush through everything

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