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we've already got it

Most of the time the images will be just as good. Unless you fell in an unfortunate situation where backlighting set in, tricky reflection, and long exposure required for an unsteady hand.

PV808 can also be used as a simple point and shoot.

Glad to hear this. Btw i really do have a pair of very unsteady hand.

1020 will be ur good friend then...

Money seems to be a more sensible friend. More than double the price leh.

I doubt it .

guys, any news or info when 1020 will reach here?

Fix at higher ISO so it will try to use faster shutter speed most of the time.

Another thing is, 808PV has minimal processing, it's more toward natural color, unlike others which tends to boost more contrast and saturation, which makes the image look nicer. So if people just look basic and plainly at the image may feel 808PV output image not so nice.
The key point is, you have more flexibility of enhancing the image that is less process or mildly processed; but then to most people then don't only see the "surface" of things, not everyone will check out the details, and so on.

Anyhow, i still love the lowlight and indoor shot for 808, better than any phone out there, very minimal noise. But u need steady hand lar. Talk about natural color, 808 really did a very good job, not like other using post processing to boost the image. Tipu

most minimal processing like, EVAH!

after 808, Nokia pushed high image processing. I don't like it

you can't edit into nicer color/tones. you don't feel its natural at all

One lowyat article mentioned it will be here on 4Q this year. So start saving !

Apparently one recent article mentioned that this 1020 will have higher colour saturation than the pv808, its partly due to the fact that the strong advocate for natural coloration guy- Damian Dinning, left Nokia and has no say in pushing for natural tone as default.

So prepare for colour boost in the 1020.

Any white colour users can verify whether white colour is prone to dirt after usage?

Was going to buy a second hand unit before someone paid before me. Anyone wanting to sell your unit?

just wana test on the unit only

I not expect my pic selected.. nothing here, just happy saw this..

Saya bangga bro

nice shot there

every phone got colour boost. except 808 and its past devices

N8 sure is not saturated, close to real colour. 808's the same.

i RARELY edited pictures out from those device! but now my L920 needed edit, itu pun hodoh jugak

congrats bro ! making up to AAS is not simple, perhaps you should tell Steve u didn't go for Photoshop treatment

Yup, even have noise, is not really big issue unless you want to view 1:1 or do heavy crop. For normal viewing, it's better than any other cameraphone, even digital camera. Plus, the noise is also there to maintain the details.

For those who are really particular about noise, can apply different type Noise Reduction via software, but this will in return causes the image to loose details. More strong noise reduction may make the image look like water color or painting.
The point is, if by default the camera apply strong noise reduction, then you can not get back the details again. But, if by default it is minimal noise reduction, you can choose to apply additional noise reduction.
Nokia should have just provide "noise reduction" option in the menu, so those users who lazy to edit, or prefer to apply more noise reduction by default can choose the option.

Yup, once it's processed, it's like cooked meat, you can't un-cook it. But if it's mild-ly cook meat, you can further cook it to your taste... or add your own flavorings.
OR, another way to put it for color, imagine your coffee, you prefer it no-sugar, or 1 spoon of sugar or more, etc.

A mildly process image is always better.

But these is already color-options provided in 808. User can choose other color-profiles to get those more vivid looks, even there is saturation boost, perhaps it should also provide vibrance control.

Anyway, the point for 1020 is, they should provide options for natural color or minimal processing like 808.


They can boost for default profile if they want, but they should provide options for natural color or minimal processing like 808.
Wonder why they didn't think of this but answer the questions like users have no choice but to accept what their research findings.