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post Oct 10 2012, 10:49 PM, updated 4y ago

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On 1st Oct 2015, we are celebrating our 3rd anniversary as of Internet hifi company in Malaysia. Being the first registered company in Malaysia to market audiophile gears through Internet, it was rather challenging and fun. We have many customers perceived us as local brand, but in reality, we are an Internet marketing company attempting to introduce high performance/price audio gears to local, especially those extra ordinary high quality products from USA, with wonderful price and superior customer service. In 2015, we sell our products to India as well as Australia.


The following awards speak.

Product of the year 2006, Goodsound!
Exceptional Value 2006, Tone Audio. Go to page 30-32.
Budget speaker of the year, Audioholics.
Best Buy Award, Consumer Guide.
Winner of Great Small Speaker Shootout, Stereomojo. <---- This is really a very interesting reviews. You will surprise who were x-ls PKed.
Reviewers Choice, Home Theater Sound.

2014 reviews:
Deaf Can Hear


More reviews followed:

Secret of Home Theater and High Fidelity
Audiocholics
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X-LS Encore, RM1290+Shipping. Available now from Curve Acoustics.


XLS Encore vs Usher S-520

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Our MTM, X-CS Encore
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post Oct 11 2012, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(fx20 @ Oct 10 2012, 10:49 PM)
The bookshelf speaker is delicately designed and engineered by Mark L. Schifters and Danny Richie.

You mean the Mark L. Schifter of AV123?
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post Oct 11 2012, 11:12 PM

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Yes, Mark L. Schifter of former AV123. Do you know him?

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post Oct 12 2012, 08:17 AM

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I googled that name and....the result was not what I expected. sweat.gif
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post Oct 12 2012, 09:01 AM

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this can fight with previously all time fav wharfedale diamond?
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post Oct 12 2012, 09:20 AM

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That guy has quite "the" history, ey.
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post Oct 12 2012, 01:15 PM

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I see Mark of former AV123 a great speaker designer. He has many great products like Rocket series, x-series, starta mini, x-statik, Onix Ref 1 and etc (if you google this products, you will know what I meant). I personally have listened to these products and I was blown way by their performance/price. He has some legal issues right now because of the way he ran his former company, AV123. The main reason he got himself into trouble because he did not file bankruptcy and the debtors bite back and sue him.

Let put aside his personal life because we are not interested in him.

Curve Acoustics does not affiliated with Mark or AV123. We are only a small company based in Malaysia trying to reproduce great speakers or amp we have known of. x-ls Encore is one of them because its performance/price and popularity in US. We are given the exclusive right to reproduce these great speaker with the original design and parts. The speakers are build in a factory which also building cabinet for other big brands (I can't mention them). The drivers are from Peerless.

In fact you can read the review here.

http://www.goodsound.com/equipment/av123_xls_xsub.htm
http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_13_3...ers-8-2006.html

The speaker has won Goodsound! award, there are not many speakers being awarded this award.

We love music. Our mission here is to introduce affordable high quality products to music lover in Malaysia. Today, it is hard to buy "valued" or great deal hifi equipment. We want to change that.

If you have any questions, feel free to contact us, we are more than happier to chit-chat with you.

But the way, if you bought the speaker and you don't like it, you can always return them to us. We definitely won't want you to spend money on products that you are not satisfied with.


Added on October 12, 2012, 1:27 pm
QUOTE(ktek @ Oct 12 2012, 09:01 AM)
this can fight with previously all time fav wharfedale diamond?
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I am not sure, I have never compared with wharfedale diamond. But We have compared it with USD1000 Paradigm bookshelf, Ascend Acoustic 170, and a monitor audio (forgot the model), most of us think x-ls Encore sounded very similar to them with improvement in detail and warm.

I would definitely like to see the comparison of it to wharfedale diamond.

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post Oct 24 2012, 01:12 PM

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hi there, i am from sarawak, can i audition the speaker?
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post Oct 24 2012, 02:10 PM

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For the picture 5 & 6, why does it has 2 port at the back? Or is it related to the last picture?
Is the last picture the AMP of the speaker? Looks... erm... simple??!!
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post Oct 24 2012, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Oct 24 2012, 02:10 PM)
For the picture 5 & 6, why does it has 2 port at the back? Or is it related to the last picture?
Is the last picture the AMP of the speaker? Looks... erm... simple??!!
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I think that's the crossover circuit.
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post Oct 24 2012, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(HiFiFreak @ Oct 24 2012, 01:12 PM)
hi there, i am from sarawak, can i audition the speaker?
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We are planning to create a gathering in Kuching for those who loves hifi and music. The purpose is to connect more friends of same interest and share our gears.
Maybe I will demo the speaker in the next gathering.
For those who are interested you can PM me. I will notify you the date and place.


Added on October 24, 2012, 5:23 pm
QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Oct 24 2012, 02:10 PM)
For the picture 5 & 6, why does it has 2 port at the back? Or is it related to the last picture?
Is the last picture the AMP of the speaker? Looks... erm... simple??!!
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I believe you are talking about the rear speaker port and terminal.
Speaker rear port is known as bass reflex. It allows air to flow out of the speaker and are designed to increase the bass response.

The terminal port is to connect your cable the speaker.

The 'AMP' you referring to is the crossover. Crossovers split the audio signal into separate frequency bands that can be separately routed to loudspeakers optimized for those bands. It looks like 'AMP' because it was built with audiophile grade capacitance, inductors and resistance which you normally wouldn't find in normal speakers.


Added on October 24, 2012, 5:24 pm
QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Oct 24 2012, 03:41 PM)
I think that's the crossover circuit.
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Exactly.

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post Oct 25 2012, 01:23 AM

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this is not a active speaker right?
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post Oct 25 2012, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(dennisyeoh @ Oct 25 2012, 01:23 AM)
this is not a active speaker right?
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After tunertoobe and fx20 explanation, I can assume that this is passive speakers, cause I don't see any power connector socket anywhere at the speakers as well. hmm.gif

Website didn't shows any power input specifications for the speakers. hmm.gif

The shop is at Batu Kawa, can save lots of shipping fees for Kuching-ian, yeah~ thumbup.gif (No wonder the shipping fees is higher to peninsular.. huh shocking.gif )

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post Oct 25 2012, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(dennisyeoh @ Oct 25 2012, 01:23 AM)
this is not a active speaker right?
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Indeed, this is a passive speaker. You can drive the speaker with any amp of your preference. And, it is very easy to drive to its essence.
I have seen it being driven with 40w china tube amp, 100w 10-year old Teac solid state whereas I am feeding it with my 150W monoblock. Regardless, they all sound clear and fast in LF.

Anyway, we gonna try it with an entry level AVR this weekend. More to come.


Added on October 25, 2012, 12:27 pm
QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Oct 25 2012, 10:28 AM)
After tunertoobe and fx20 explanation, I can assume that this is passive speakers, cause I don't see any power connector socket anywhere at the speakers as well. hmm.gif

Website didn't shows any power input specifications for the speakers. hmm.gif

The shop is at Batu Kawa, can save lots of shipping fees for Kuching-ian, yeah~ thumbup.gif (No wonder the shipping fees is higher to peninsular.. huh shocking.gif )
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You are absolutely right, Wildwestgoh. It is a passive one.

Since we are discussing active/passive speaker, let me tell you something, the speaker shares a similarity with one of the high end active monitor from Sonodyne at http://www.sonodyne.com

You are a small guy, I believe you are able to spot what is it.

What power input spec are you looking for?

Batu Kawa is our warehouse and we normally ship from there. For Kuching-ian, you can do pick up and that will save you some cost. Anyway, even with shipping cost, this is still worth to have. Believe me or not, the speaker had been compared with several bookshelf (paradigm, monitor audio, axiom etc) priced at RM2.5k-3.3k (Malaysia retail price), so far, none could match its clear mid, smooth high and fast low frequency.

Please don't take our words for it, you can compare it yourself. If you found out it is not what is like, you can always return the speaker and you will be refunded.

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post Oct 25 2012, 12:37 PM

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I'm kind of a noob when it comes to book shelf, or any serious speakers. What's its best usage, PC/laptop with external DAC/amp, hooking it up to a CD player and amp for general listening to music at the living room, replacement for the TV speakers?
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post Oct 25 2012, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Oct 25 2012, 12:37 PM)
I'm kind of a noob when it comes to book shelf, or any serious speakers. What's its best usage, PC/laptop with external DAC/amp, hooking it up to a CD player and amp for general listening to music at the living room, replacement for the TV speakers?
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I would categorize x-ls Encore as high end audiophile speaker, especially when you want transparent or natural sound, flat response from your source. It it best for both stereo or HT, depend on ones' preference. I am using 5 pieces of it for 5.1 movies and 2 piece for 2.0 music. They are meant for bedroom, living room, office etc.

You can definitely use is for PC/laptop, but please make you have an amp (AVR, integrated, power amp, tube, class d, etc...) to drive it. The output from PC/Laptop or headphone amp is too weak to "sound" the speaker.

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Somehow the speakers looks a lot like passive speakers of Edifier R1900TIII.


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QUOTE(fx20 @ Oct 25 2012, 12:49 PM)
I would categorize x-ls Encore as high end audiophile speaker, especially when you want transparent or natural sound, flat response from your source. It it best for both  stereo or HT, depend on ones' preference. I am using 5 pieces of it for 5.1 movies and 2 piece for 2.0 music. They are meant for bedroom, living room, office etc.

You can definitely use is for PC/laptop, but please make you have an amp (AVR, integrated, power amp, tube, class d, etc...) to drive it. The output from PC/Laptop or headphone amp is too weak to "sound" the speaker.
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Oh, I see.
We're actually looking for speakers to replace the ones on the TV, and get an amp for it as well. The ones on the TV can be too boomy, but then when we dial down the bass it's too flat and make vocals sound too 'plastic'. There's nothing we can do to make the sound balanced. It's a Samsung LCD BTW so those tiny speakers although can be loud without crackling, it never consistently sounds good, not with music or movies.
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post Oct 30 2012, 07:27 PM

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Wow....how can I get this speaker in KL?
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post Oct 30 2012, 09:37 PM

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Wow....how can I get this speaker in KL?
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You can order it right here

http://www.curveacoustics.com/speaker-x-ls-encore.html

,it will be delivered to your doorstep 3-4 days,

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Is there any way I can test the speakers? hmm.gif
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hmm not adding back the grill for malaysia made version? lol
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Jun 2 2013, 06:56 PM)
Is there any way I can test the speakers? hmm.gif
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Hi Kytz, unfortunately we don't have any show room elsewhere except in Kuching.
However, we do allow you to audition the speaker at your own place for 10 days and we believe this is the best way to audition the speakers. If you don't like the speakers, you can just return to us. No question asked.

FYI, we have sell good number of these speakers, and so far none is returned. :-)

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hmm not adding back the grill for malaysia made version? lol
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That was the first version which doesn't look as aesthetic the revised one, I think personally.
FYI, the current x-ls Encores are assembled in Malaysia and the parts are still manufactured by the original manufacturers to maintain its signature. :-)
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TS, any way to audit the speaker in KL?
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Any user here can give some review or compare with other speaker?
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Any user here can give some review or compare with other speaker?
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Yup, this will definitely help if no chance to audit the speaker around.
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enriquelee barjoyai
will let you guys know soon brows.gif at the moment, i'll share some info about this speaker over its predecessor which is onix xls by av123

1. Used paper port to reduce resonances
2. Used all copper terminal cup
3. Use high quality high purity inductor, capacitor and resistor in cross over.
4. Better quality MDF
5. Use 1kg/m3 micro filber glass for damping
6. Better cabinet bracing
7. Satin coating to reduce harmonic distortion radiances.

yeah.
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I bought the speaker and right now powering it with a Yaqin amp, which is also bought from the same fellow. I have been to "showroom", the owner house, to listen to the speaker before I buy it.

One thing I can say for sure about the speaker is a no brainer for 1.2k. I own a pair of AE Neo 1, which I bought it with SG700 years ago. Compare to Neo, the encore cabinet is biggher and heavier, acoustically, it better in its high (warm), middle (smooth) and low register (punchy), comparing neo. One thing you will be surprise is the encore has a lot of bass.

Looking for buy another 3 to do 5.1. if I won magnum this weekend.
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QUOTE(HiFiFreak @ Jun 12 2013, 03:40 PM)
I bought the speaker and right now powering it with a Yaqin amp, which is also bought from the same fellow. I have been to "showroom", the owner house, to listen to the speaker before I buy it.

One thing I can say for sure about the speaker is a no brainer for 1.2k. I own a pair of AE Neo 1, which I bought it with SG700 years ago.  Compare to Neo, the encore cabinet is biggher and heavier, acoustically, it better in its high (warm), middle (smooth) and low register (punchy), comparing neo. One thing you will be surprise is the encore has a lot of bass.

Looking for buy another 3 to do 5.1. if I won magnum this weekend.
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It is a great speaker. You won't be disappointed for the price.

In Bolehland, hifi is a luxury, it is really hard to find good performance/price gears. I hope 1 day everybody can enjoy favorite music with affordable good system.

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So poison, look delicious, do you think it's gona work great if pair with an amplifer like Lepai 2020A? hmm.gif
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Have you tried to pair it with AVR? How's the sound compared to dedicated stereo amp?
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1.2k is the price of 1 speaker or a pair of speakers?
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1.2k is the price of 1 speaker or a pair of speakers?
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1 pair bro.
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QUOTE(vivakarna @ Jun 25 2013, 10:27 AM)
1 pair bro.
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According to fx20, the speakers can be auditioned in my own place, if not satisfy can return money? blink.gif
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QUOTE(wim1983 @ Jun 25 2013, 09:33 AM)
According to fx20, the speakers can be auditioned in my own place, if not satisfy can return money? blink.gif
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yup, within 10 days if i'm not mistaken.


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QUOTE(vivakarna @ Jun 25 2013, 10:48 AM)
yup, within 10 days if i'm not mistaken.
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wow, that's pretty good service flex.gif , but if I am not satisfied, I will have to bear the shipping cost, hmm still kinda big amount, the shipping cost is not cheap, and also if I return the product, I have to bear again the shipping cost? hmm.gif

Vivakarna, how would rate the bass of it? Is it relaxable? Currently I have one set powerful active speakers, bass is quite hurting, for me I am not bass head though, just an enough amount will do justice for me. What do you think?

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no other colors?
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QUOTE(wim1983 @ Jun 25 2013, 09:51 AM)
wow, that's pretty good service  flex.gif , but if I am not satisfied, I will have to bear the shipping cost, hmm still kinda big amount, the shipping cost is not cheap, and also if I return the product, I have to bear again the shipping cost? hmm.gif

Vivakarna, how would rate the bass of it? Is it relaxable? Currently I have one set powerful active speakers, bass is quite hurting, for me I am not bass head though, just an enough amount will do justice for me. What do you think?
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the bass is not excessive, just right amount of it.

QUOTE(rx330 @ Jun 25 2013, 09:54 AM)
no other colors?
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currently there are black color only.
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yup, within 10 days if i'm not mistaken.
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vivakarna, I saw your another post of your placement of the speaker. You are placing them too close to the wall. I am suggesting if you can place them about 1M from the wall, you will get the right bass. Otherwise, the reflection of the wall generate uncontrolled resonance inside the speaker.
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QUOTE(wim1983 @ Jun 23 2013, 01:46 PM)
So poison, look delicious, do you think it's gona work great if pair with an amplifer like Lepai 2020A? hmm.gif
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You can definitely drive it with a Lepai 2020A, but we have never tested with that yet.

We have tested with TA2024C (10W) and it sounds really good but you can't play it too loud.

The really near-perfect match is TA2022(50w). You just can believe how good they sound with the low price tag.
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QUOTE(willkso @ Jun 23 2013, 11:19 PM)
Have you tried to pair it with AVR? How's the sound compared to dedicated stereo amp?
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X-ls encore is really easy to drive. And at our home, we use it for 5.1 with an really old AVR.

About the sounding, I can't comment further because it depend on too many paramaters.

But I can guarantee you that the speaker's acoustics is almost natural and uncolor.

We only sell product we know. smile.gif

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QUOTE(wim1983 @ Jun 25 2013, 09:51 AM)
wow, that's pretty good service  flex.gif , but if I am not satisfied, I will have to bear the shipping cost, hmm still kinda big amount, the shipping cost is not cheap, and also if I return the product, I have to bear again the shipping cost? hmm.gif

Vivakarna, how would rate the bass of it? Is it relaxable? Currently I have one set powerful active speakers, bass is quite hurting, for me I am not bass head though, just an enough amount will do justice for me. What do you think?
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Rest assured. If you hate it, just return to use. However, the shipping is unevitable. We are trying to setup a distribution center in KL, let's see how it goes.

For the speaker we sold, we have never received them back, except if there is defect or imperfect.

We DID not do any promotion, we can survive until today mainly was because piece of mouth of our happy customers. And we have many returned customers.
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QUOTE(fx20 @ Jun 25 2013, 05:55 PM)
vivakarna, I saw your another post of your placement of the speaker. You are placing them too close to the wall. I am suggesting if you can place them about 1M from the wall, you will get the right bass. Otherwise, the reflection of the wall generate uncontrolled resonance inside the speaker.
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yeah already re-arrange my speaker placement smile.gif
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What's the lead time? Does it takes long to build?
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What's the lead time? Does it takes long to build?
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Hahaha... This is not a DIY. They are manufactured by speker factory with precised equipments. biggrin.gif
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How about Ferrari Ruby Red? drool.gif

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QUOTE(fx20 @ Jun 25 2013, 07:06 PM)
You can definitely drive it with a Lepai 2020A, but we have never tested with that yet.

We have tested with TA2024C (10W) and it sounds really good but you can't play it too loud.

The really near-perfect match is TA2022(50w). You just can believe how good they sound with the low price tag.
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Currently I also facing some issue of resonance rclxub.gif with one of my Swans HiVi 2.0 speakers, hmm just worry x-ls encore has the same problem hmm.gif

got one question, if i am not satisfy with the speakers, then I have to pay 2x shipping cost? Correct? rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(fx20 @ Jun 25 2013, 11:16 PM)
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Wow, red color looks very cool! Remind me about a 'Triangle' brand speaker. I still need to audition this speaker when I have time in the future. Definitely 1 of the most tempting shake in my shortlist..

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so can do other colors?
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Unfortunately it is not possible right now, maybe next batch and it is more expensive. The red version one is a very special edition of x-ls Encore.
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The wood color one available?
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@fx20 u going to be at klav?
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Due to budget constraint, we can't afford a exhibition room this time. If we do exhibition, magazine, newspaper, the price of the speaker will be 2-2.5k, not 1.2k anymore.

If we are able to get our new product out end of this year, maybe we can do it next year.

Anyway, you can always do audition at home. You won't be dissapointed.
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Newbie here. Do i need a AMP in order to get these speakers work stogether?
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Newbie here. Do i need a AMP in order to get these speakers work stogether?
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if using it as surround ok or not?
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if using it as surround ok or not?
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works great according to the TS, obviously you need to buy 5 unit with one sub.
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yeah..for example you can use lepai2020A+ or Topping tp60 to powered up the speaker.
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x-ls Encore is currently out of stock. We are planning to restock it by the end of the year, with more color choices.

Thank you for your support.

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Thanks for the reply. What about the sub woofer?
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x-ls Encore is currently out of stock. We are planning to restock it by the end of the year, with more color choices.

Thank you for your support.
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Do let us know when the stock is ready.

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Thank you for your interest.
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what is the recommended budget amp?

how about the sensitivity of the speakers? are they easy to dirive? how does the speakers compare to other bookshelfs within the price range?
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what is the recommended budget amp?

how about the sensitivity of the speakers? are they easy to dirive? how does the speakers compare to other bookshelfs within the price range?
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The speaker has 87dB sensitivity at 8ohm impedance. You can drive it with any amp easily. I saw someone push it with Lepai 15 watts with no complain. Definitely, if you want a better SQ, I strongly recommend you to use high wattage amp.


This speaker carries Aerial 5B signature. You can check how much this speaker cost.


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This is a passive speaker. No heatsink needed.
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Bought WAF-1 from curveacoustics thru forumer fx20 months ago. Pairing it with Yamaha vx475. After few months using for gaming, movies and music. For me, if vocal or pop songs, the vocal really sweet, the sibliance is so nicely done, not sharp, not bland. Especially female vocal, really nice. my home theater infinity primus set, cost me 7k full set (sarawak con price), doesnt sound as musical, just abit louder and more bass for the tower. I can say the two speaker can produce deep bass, but volume isnt there.

So for electronic music, David Guetta or Zedd, it sounds abit more on the treble, cos not enuf bass volume. when u add a sub to this set, i believe it will be a beast as most of the bass will be done by subwoofer.

I am a newb, so i dont know much to comment, but i just can say there is nothing u can find at such range, sub 1k for a bookshelf that sounds way better than anything u can find out there.
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Mar 27 2014, 07:24 PM)
Bought WAF-1 from curveacoustics thru forumer fx20 months ago. Pairing it with Yamaha vx475. After few months using for gaming, movies and music. For me, if vocal or pop songs, the vocal really sweet, the sibliance is so nicely done, not sharp, not bland. Especially female vocal, really nice. my home theater infinity primus set, cost me 7k full set (sarawak con price), doesnt sound as musical, just abit louder and more bass for the tower. I can say the two speaker can produce deep bass, but volume isnt there.

So for electronic music, David Guetta or Zedd, it sounds abit more on the treble, cos not enuf bass volume. when u add a sub to this set, i believe it will be a beast as most of the bass will be done by subwoofer.

I am a newb, so i dont know much to comment, but i just can say there is nothing u can find at such range, sub 1k for a bookshelf that sounds way better than anything u can find out there.
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How's the sound signature if compared to HiVi X3?
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man, hivi x3 sounds puny in comparison to WAF-1. WAF-1 is a passive speaker FYI. it just doesnt have the room filling sound, details, bass, vocal of WAF-1. for less than 1k, u cant get anything near it.
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Mar 28 2014, 04:10 PM)
man, hivi x3 sounds puny in comparison to WAF-1. WAF-1 is a passive speaker FYI. it just doesnt have the room filling sound, details, bass, vocal of WAF-1. for less than 1k, u cant get anything near it.
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hmm, i wonder how it will do if compete with my X4. I am currently looking for another set of speakers for my home theater. But these are passive speakers which means i will have to purchase additional speakers amp. sweat.gif
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hmm, i wonder how it will do if compete with my X4. I am currently looking for another set of speakers for my home theater. But these are passive speakers which means i will have to purchase additional speakers amp. sweat.gif
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WAF-1 is a desktop speaker designed by Danny Ritchie and was designed to sound as flat as possible, aka natural. It can be used for both music and movies. When it coupled with a very cost effective amp (for example TP60), you definitely will surprise of its sonic superiority.

Currently, we have limited stock of WAF-1 as they are built by requests. Most of them were sent off to friends a number of them are reserved. If you want to know more about it, please shoot me a PM or whatapss me.


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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Mar 27 2014, 07:24 PM)
Bought WAF-1 from curveacoustics thru forumer fx20 months ago. Pairing it with Yamaha vx475. After few months using for gaming, movies and music. For me, if vocal or pop songs, the vocal really sweet, the sibliance is so nicely done, not sharp, not bland. Especially female vocal, really nice. my home theater infinity primus set, cost me 7k full set (sarawak con price), doesnt sound as musical, just abit louder and more bass for the tower. I can say the two speaker can produce deep bass, but volume isnt there.

So for electronic music, David Guetta or Zedd, it sounds abit more on the treble, cos not enuf bass volume. when u add a sub to this set, i believe it will be a beast as most of the bass will be done by subwoofer.

I am a newb, so i dont know much to comment, but i just can say there is nothing u can find at such range, sub 1k for a bookshelf that sounds way better than anything u can find out there.
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I hope you enjoy the speaker as much as we do. You definitely need a subwoofer to sweeten your setup and you will like the vocal (midrange) more if you can cross the WAF-1 at 70-80HZ.

BTW, you really got a good deal. I heard the coming production will be much more expensive.
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QUOTE(fx20 @ Mar 28 2014, 08:20 PM)
WAF-1 is a desktop speaker designed by Danny Ritchie and was designed to sound as flat as possible, aka natural. It can be used for both music and movies. When it coupled with a very cost effective amp (for example TP60), you definitely will surprise of its sonic superiority.

Currently, we have limited stock of WAF-1 as they are built by requests. Most of them were sent off to friends a number of them are reserved. If you want to know more about it, please shoot me a PM or whatapss me.
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can pm me for the WAF-1 + e.g. TP60?

thanks.
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Sorry, we don't do custom build. Building speaker is a complex process, you need high precision tools if you want to build a sound proof cabinet. All our speaker are built at factory.

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QUOTE(fx20 @ Mar 28 2014, 08:24 PM)
I hope you enjoy the speaker as much as we do. You definitely need a subwoofer to sweeten your setup and you will like the vocal (midrange) more if you can cross the WAF-1 at 70-80HZ.

BTW, you really got a good deal. I heard the coming production will be much more expensive.
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I was thinking of asking you to build a SEOS tempest 12 for me.
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how much is the waf 1 ?
the body looks so nice
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I was thinking of asking you to build a SEOS tempest 12 for me.
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That cabinet is not very hard to build, but tuning with damping material will be a major issue since it is a front ported. Maybe I can help you to find a carpenter.

You can from Kuching right? Shoot me an email and we can take it from there.

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how much is the waf 1 ?
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X-LS Encore back in stock, ready to ship.
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bro...where is WAF-1... haha....waiting for me...to provide...kakaka...
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By the way, do you have any DIY models of subwoofers with dual 8" drivers? Something for mid bass duty?

Can post pictures of your X-CS center speaker?

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A luxurious setup. Audio Note M7 pre, Frank Voon power amps and power banks. Customer replaced his LS3/5A.
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The speaker is reviews by Deaf Can Hear

http://deafcanhear.blogspot.com/2014/05/a-hidden-gem.html
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I owned this speaker before, but now I found a better one for replacement, the Advanced Audio Acoustics JM3/5A, the mid is so much natural. This speaker actually is selling by someone is Lowyat.net and he offered "money back guarantee" for 1 week, so I gatal gatal called that guy and first I don't believe this speaker because it is made in Taiwan and you know the USHER kind of sound really a turn off for me, but no harm to try since can get back the money if don't like. So after installed everything properly, play the first song, oh how could such a cheap price speaker can produce such mid, I really never listened before any speaker under RM2000 even RM3000 to have such mid, the mid character is really like the famous BBC LS3/5A mini monitor, after google this speaker, then I found that the designer is a BBC monitor diehard fan and he is trying to reproduce the BBC sound character with minimal cost, and add more lower frequency and high frequency to it. The seller also a good guy, called me after one week whether I want to return the speaker or buy it, I just told him that I want to keep this little fella and then he emailed me an official receipt. Now this speaker is quite famous in Singapore and the selling price over there is SGD499.00 / RM1190.00. The spec is 51Hz to 30khz, 8 ohm impedance, 100w power rating and 89dB 1w/1m sensitivity. This little speaker is really worth to try.

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QUOTE(feelfree @ Jun 3 2014, 11:51 AM)
I owned this speaker before, but now I found a better one for replacement, the Advanced Audio Acoustics JM3/5A, the mid is so much natural. This speaker actually is selling by someone is Lowyat.net and he offered "money back guarantee" for 1 week, so I gatal gatal called that guy and first I don't believe this speaker because it is made in Taiwan and you know the USHER kind of sound really a turn off for me, but no harm to try since can get back the money if don't like. So after installed everything properly, play the first song, oh how could such a cheap price speaker can produce such mid, I really never listened before any speaker under RM2000 even RM3000 to have such mid, the mid character is really like the famous BBC LS3/5A mini monitor, after google this speaker, then I found that the designer is a BBC monitor diehard fan and he is trying to reproduce the BBC sound character with minimal cost, and add more lower frequency and high frequency to it. The seller also a good guy, called me after one week whether I want to return the speaker or buy it, I just told him that I want to keep this little fella and then he emailed me an official receipt. Now this speaker is quite famous in Singapore and the selling price over there is SGD499.00 / RM1190.00. The spec is 51Hz to 30khz, 8 ohm impedance, 100w power rating and 89dB 1w/1m sensitivity. This little speaker is really worth to try. 

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QUOTE(feelfree @ Jun 3 2014, 12:51 PM)
I owned this speaker before, but now I found a better one for replacement, the Advanced Audio Acoustics JM3/5A, the mid is so much natural. This speaker actually is selling by someone is Lowyat.net and he offered "money back guarantee" for 1 week, so I gatal gatal called that guy and first I don't believe this speaker because it is made in Taiwan and you know the USHER kind of sound really a turn off for me, but no harm to try since can get back the money if don't like. So after installed everything properly, play the first song, oh how could such a cheap price speaker can produce such mid, I really never listened before any speaker under RM2000 even RM3000 to have such mid, the mid character is really like the famous BBC LS3/5A mini monitor, after google this speaker, then I found that the designer is a BBC monitor diehard fan and he is trying to reproduce the BBC sound character with minimal cost, and add more lower frequency and high frequency to it. The seller also a good guy, called me after one week whether I want to return the speaker or buy it, I just told him that I want to keep this little fella and then he emailed me an official receipt. Now this speaker is quite famous in Singapore and the selling price over there is SGD499.00 / RM1190.00. The spec is 51Hz to 30khz, 8 ohm impedance, 100w power rating and 89dB 1w/1m sensitivity. This little speaker is really worth to try. 

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I owned this speaker before, but now I found a better one for replacement, the Advanced Audio Acoustics JM3/5A, the mid is so much natural. This speaker actually is selling by someone is Lowyat.net and he offered "money back guarantee" for 1 week, so I gatal gatal called that guy and first I don't believe this speaker because it is made in Taiwan and you know the USHER kind of sound really a turn off for me, but no harm to try since can get back the money if don't like. So after installed everything properly, play the first song, oh how could such a cheap price speaker can produce such mid, I really never listened before any speaker under RM2000 even RM3000 to have such mid, the mid character is really like the famous BBC LS3/5A mini monitor, after google this speaker, then I found that the designer is a BBC monitor diehard fan and he is trying to reproduce the BBC sound character with minimal cost, and add more lower frequency and high frequency to it. The seller also a good guy, called me after one week whether I want to return the speaker or buy it, I just told him that I want to keep this little fella and then he emailed me an official receipt. Now this speaker is quite famous in Singapore and the selling price over there is SGD499.00 / RM1190.00. The spec is 51Hz to 30khz, 8 ohm impedance, 100w power rating and 89dB 1w/1m sensitivity. This little speaker is really worth to try. 

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Advanced Audio Acoustics JM3/5A is basically a BBC LS3/5a clone. There are many LS3/5a clones out there and I don't know about this one.

I don't know your taste of music. If you like to listen to vocal, you can give it a shot. But I doubt it has the same dynamic range as XLS Encore, judging at the driver and cabinet size (I may be wrong). Please noted that XLS Encore is neutral and flat across all frequency range, not just on mid only.

Is LS3/5a better than XLS Encore? I guess it all depends on a listener's taste. BUT, a independent shootout done in 2007 has shown that that LS3/5a clone couldn't even make it to round 2 of the test. I believe Gini is a much better clone than AAA where its design and layout is much faithful to the original ones.. Shhhhhhhhhhhh..... this winner is of course XLS (Unoptimized version of XLS Encore).

The review is here.

http://www.stereomojo.com/Small%20Speaker%...ootoutPart2.htm

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Advanced Audio Acoustics JM3/5A is basically a BBC LS3/5a clone.  There are many LS3/5a clones out there and I don't know about this one.

I don't know your taste of music. If you like to listen to vocal, you can give it a shot. But I doubt it has the same dynamic range as XLS Encore, judging at the driver and cabinet size (I may be wrong). Please noted that XLS Encore is neutral and flat across all frequency range, not just on mid only.

Is LS3/5a better than XLS Encore? I guess it all depends on a listener's taste. BUT, a independent shootout done in 2007 has shown that that LS3/5a clone couldn't even make it to round 2 of the test. I believe Gini is a much better clone than AAA where its design and layout is much faithful to the original ones.. Shhhhhhhhhhhh..... this winner is of course XLS (Unoptimized version of XLS Encore).

The review is here.

http://www.stereomojo.com/Small%20Speaker%...ootoutPart2.htm
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I would not say the AAA is better than the XLS, but I got a few hifi kaki, all of them like the AAA sound more than the XLS after they have listened to the AAA. For me the AAA isn't trying to clone the LS3/5A, but trying to retain the good mid of the LS3/5A with added more punch and airy high, after all you can still able to listen to the LS3/5A character from the AAA JM3/5A. Just base on the spec alone already can tell whether it is a clone of the LS3/5A or not!
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I would not say the AAA is better than the XLS, but I got a few hifi kaki, all of them like the AAA sound more than the XLS after they have listened to the AAA. For me the AAA isn't trying to clone the LS3/5A, but trying to retain the good mid of the LS3/5A with added more punch and airy high, after all you can still able to listen to the LS3/5A character from the AAA JM3/5A. Just base on the spec alone already can tell whether it is a clone of the LS3/5A or not!
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I am glad you have found your 'sound'. Mind to share your setup of your XLS and AAA? Mind to elaborate your experience of AAA vs XLS?

I have a number of xls owners in KL, I am really sorry if we did not assist your (Your name is Matthew, right?) setup. We have a active support group here, and definitely happy to help you out.

We also want to know more about your spec and and your listening preference.

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interesting, would love to try one side by side
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I am getting gatal to listen to them side by side now. Vivakarna let's arrange for a A/B test for this speaker to see if it live up to what it claimed.

According to the seller, it has "7 days money back guarantee for COD customers only". It is not harm to give it a try.

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The following are famous Sonodyne SM50AK, one of the high end studio monitors.

Could you spot the similarity between these studio with XLS-Encore? It is one of the main reason why XLS sounds so sweet at high register.

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More customer setup.
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Emerald Physics DAC2+TP60+XLS Encore. A setup for vocal music. "All BLACKS"

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any recommendation for bluetooth earset/headset for vocal music?
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I am getting gatal to listen to them side by side now. Vivakarna let's arrange for a A/B test for this speaker to see if it live up to what it claimed.

According to the seller, it has "7 days money back guarantee for COD customers only". It is not harm to give it a try.
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QUOTE(wim1983 @ Jun 20 2014, 11:08 AM)
Ya, please do a Justice Bao listening session to compare those 2 drool.gif

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Hi bro, I have to tell you this will not happen. My friend in KL have called and SMSed this fellow but got not response from him eventually.

By the way, I have called Taiwan www.AudioTaste.com.tw, who designed the speaker, and spoke to Mr Chung, and I was informed this is a speaker is to imitate BBC LS3/5A. Currently, it is priced at NT$8999 (RM899) with NT$1500 (RM150) discount voucher, and it is made by AAA in China. The two drivers are built by Jamo (I also heard Jamo has discontinued this drivers, for a reason they do not know).

I also spoke to MS Chen in AAA, China, where she promised me to point me to a speaker engineer and again it was never happened. It looked like they only able to read the spec from the website but not able to answer most of my questions.

Most importantly, after hours, nobody has or able to show me a SPL chart.

I have also spoken to my friends in Taiwan and Singapore and none of them realized the existence of the speaker. But one of my kind Taiwanese headfi friend, Mr Ching, pointed me to a forum thread,

https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Headphone/M.1372947283.A.ACE.html

Accordingly, the impression of AAA 3/5A is as

" 喇叭區擺放的喇叭不多,以PSB、AAA、Amphion、KEF等廠牌為主 進去的時候,喇叭區唱歌的喇叭是AAA的復刻JM-3/5A 不大清楚是哪台AMP推的 聲音有點粗,低頻偏少,中頻還可以,高頻有點雜 各種聲音的搭配間夾有粗糙的顆粒,導致聲音銜接不是很流暢"

Google translated,

"There is not many speakers in the area: PSB, AAA, Amphion, KEF and other brands, the playing system is JM-3/5A AAA and an unknown amp, the acoustics was a little rough, no bass, mid is acceptable, high register is messy, the convergence of high, mid and low are filled up with rough particles, making the overall sound not very smooth"

Are you you still tempted?

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Hi bro, I have to tell you this will not happen. My friend in KL have called and SMSed this fellow but got not response from him eventually.

By the way, I have called Taiwan www.AudioTaste.com.tw, who designed the speaker, and spoke to Mr Chung, and I was informed this is a speaker is to imitate BBC LS3/5A. Currently, it is priced at NT$8999 (RM899) with NT$1500 (RM150) discount voucher, and it is made by AAA in China. The two drivers are built by Jamo (I also heard Jamo has discontinued this drivers, for a reason they do not know).

I also spoke to MS Chen in AAA, China, where she promised me to point me to a speaker engineer and again it was never happened.  It looked like they only able to read the spec from the website but not able to answer most of my questions.

Most importantly, after hours, nobody has or able to show me a SPL chart.

I have also spoken to my friends in Taiwan and Singapore and none of them realized the existence of the speaker.  But one of my kind Taiwanese headfi friend, Mr Ching, pointed me to a forum thread,

https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Headphone/M.1372947283.A.ACE.html

Accordingly, the impression of AAA 3/5A is as

" 喇叭區擺放的喇叭不多,以PSB、AAA、Amphion、KEF等廠牌為主 進去的時候,喇叭區唱歌的喇叭是AAA的復刻JM-3/5A 不大清楚是哪台AMP推的 聲音有點粗,低頻偏少,中頻還可以,高頻有點雜 各種聲音的搭配間夾有粗糙的顆粒,導致聲音銜接不是很流暢"

Google translated,

"There is not many speakers in the area: PSB, AAA, Amphion, KEF and other brands, the playing system is JM-3/5A AAA and an unknown amp, the acoustics was a little rough, no bass, mid is acceptable, high register is messy, the convergence of high, mid and low are filled up with rough particles, making the overall sound not very smooth"

Are you you still tempted?
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I see, where is the feelfree guy go sweat.gif ? Maybe he can help to explain and demo a bit...

Just today I have clean my room and reposition xls-encore (as suggest by the diagram), resonance does not happen, but if I am not listen at my chair, e.g. like at side near speakers, still hear resonance quite strong, hmm guess I'll have to buy a subwoofer not long later...haha...


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Most people use Tube amp to drive LS3/5a which they claimed is the better setup than pairing with SS amp. May I suggest the comparison of both speakers to be conducted under both SS and tube amp? at least under fair basis.
The AAA JM3/5a selling by another lowyat reseller in fact is 'obsoleted'product, the taiwan company introduced second edition some time ago (yes the one dropped to NT8999), but with Open Back design which betray the original design philosophy.
I have asked a few LS3/5a owner (regardless Roger/Kef etc) about this triple A imitate (or can we use reproduce) performance, none of them 'encourage' me to buy it, by giving reason such as "better buy well known or original brand" "you get what you pay for, in other word cheap does not guarantee quality" and the killing/cooling statement like "you don't have tube amp, what for you buy it".
Well, after cooling off for quite some time, i come across this Encore and almost buy from GR-Research (if not because of custom duty and the expensive courier charges....) But luckily I found one selling at Malaysia.
After having Encore for few months, I would say i love it more than my other price double speaker, especially after adding tube buffer (poor man tube setup). I don't know how to use those audio term to describe it (as all are personal judgement) but i like it more with tube buffer.
My fellow Encore owner here, have any of you mob the cap and resistor at the crossover? (FX20 might not agree). I kind of itchy want to upgrade the cap to sonicap (widely use by oversea Encore owner) or may be Mundorf cap... Please share here..
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QUOTE(burdiespooler @ Jun 22 2014, 12:39 PM)
Most people use Tube amp to drive LS3/5a which they claimed is the better setup than pairing with SS amp. May I suggest the comparison of both speakers to be conducted under both SS and tube amp? at least under fair basis.
The AAA JM3/5a selling by another lowyat reseller in fact is 'obsoleted'product, the taiwan company introduced second edition some time ago (yes the one dropped to NT8999), but with Open Back design which betray the original design philosophy.
I have asked a few LS3/5a owner (regardless Roger/Kef etc) about this triple A imitate (or can we use reproduce) performance, none of them 'encourage' me to buy it, by giving reason such as "better buy well known or original brand" "you get what you pay for, in other word cheap does not guarantee quality" and the killing/cooling statement like "you don't have tube amp, what for you buy it".
Well, after cooling off for quite some time, i come across this Encore and almost buy from GR-Research (if not because of custom duty and the expensive courier charges....) But luckily I found one selling at Malaysia.
After having Encore for few months, I would say i love it more than my other price double speaker, especially after adding tube buffer (poor man tube setup). I don't know how to use those audio term to describe it (as all are personal judgement) but i like it more with tube buffer.
My fellow Encore owner here, have any of you mob the cap and resistor at the crossover? (FX20 might not agree). I kind of itchy want to upgrade the cap to sonicap (widely use by oversea Encore owner) or may be Mundorf cap... Please share here..
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This is what I think about your thought on crossover. The current Encore facilitates high quality metallized polypropylene caps and air inductors. The purpose of crossover is to filter high and low pass. Changing the caps or inductor may improve the acoustics, probably smoother roll-offs, but I believe the money spent may have little effect of the output.

If you still want to try to play with crossover, I suggest you to look into this, DSP 2.4.

http://www.emeraldphysics.com/p/digital-processors.html

It worth the money to play with this alternative. Besides, it also fun to play with it.



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Compare cost I think changing cap still a lot cheaper. Sonicap is about USD100 for two crossover, Mundorf MCap supreme may be USD200 or more (depend what value of cap), but it is still cheaper than adding DSP (wow DSP 2.4 retail price is.. USD850). Some more DSP is still another processor digitally alter the sound, whereas changing cap normally stick to the same value or little change of value (e.g. 0.22up to 0.33up) and hopping that the quality of the cap or the material used (MKS, MKT, FKP or MKP, with gold inside, Taiwan cap vs German cap etc) shall improve/smooth/make worse (whatever you called it) the sound but with signature intact.
Furthermore, cap/resistor upgrading (extend it to tube rolling, opamps swapping) with positive result will bring self-satisfaction.
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Coming soon ... MTM, a perfect match for XLS Encore.

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QUOTE(burdiespooler @ Jun 22 2014, 12:39 PM)
Most people use Tube amp to drive LS3/5a which they claimed is the better setup than pairing with SS amp. May I suggest the comparison of both speakers to be conducted under both SS and tube amp? at least under fair basis.
The AAA JM3/5a selling by another lowyat reseller in fact is 'obsoleted'product, the taiwan company introduced second edition some time ago (yes the one dropped to NT8999), but with Open Back design which betray the original design philosophy.
I have asked a few LS3/5a owner (regardless Roger/Kef etc) about this triple A imitate (or can we use reproduce) performance, none of them 'encourage' me to buy it, by giving reason such as "better buy well known or original brand" "you get what you pay for, in other word cheap does not guarantee quality" and the killing/cooling statement like "you don't have tube amp, what for you buy it".
Well, after cooling off for quite some time, i come across this Encore and almost buy from GR-Research (if not because of custom duty and the expensive courier charges....) But luckily I found one selling at Malaysia.
After having Encore for few months, I would say i love it more than my other price double speaker, especially after adding tube buffer (poor man tube setup). I don't know how to use those audio term to describe it (as all are personal judgement) but i like it more with tube buffer.
My fellow Encore owner here, have any of you mob the cap and resistor at the crossover? (FX20 might not agree). I kind of itchy want to upgrade the cap to sonicap (widely use by oversea Encore owner) or may be Mundorf cap... Please share here..
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Seem like you are not really listen to the real LS3/5A before, even your so called LS3/5A owners, do you know why? Because no one will say tube amp is the only perfect match to the LS3/5A. And let me to repeat again, AAA JM3/5A isn't imitate the LS3/5A like what other brand did, such as Ho's, Jensen..., despite for this, the JM3/5A is using their own in-house built driver and crossover that followed their own specifications. If I'm not mistaken, the AAA the other lowyat member selling is the third generation of JM3/5A, not like what you said the obsolete 1st generation with sealed box, using the Peerless drivers. But whatever I said at here is useless if you are not listening to it before!
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QUOTE(feelfree @ Jul 15 2014, 03:08 PM)
Seem like you are not really listen to the real LS3/5A before, even your so called LS3/5A owners, do you know why? Because no one will say tube amp is the only perfect match to the LS3/5A. And let me to repeat again, AAA JM3/5A isn't imitate the LS3/5A like what other brand did, such as Ho's, Jensen..., despite for this, the JM3/5A is using their own in-house built driver and crossover that followed their own specifications. If I'm not mistaken, the AAA the other lowyat member selling is the third generation of JM3/5A, not like what you said the obsolete 1st generation with sealed box, using the Peerless drivers. But whatever I said at here is useless if you are not listening to it before!
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@feelfree, please re-read my post, I am not using those words that you implied that I saying them
I am not the owner of LS3/5A, the so called LS3/5A owners never listened to this AAA before. What they advise me is to get tube amp for LS3/5A (especially 845) as it is "better match" than SS amp (to clarify, I didn't said perfect match in my previous post but I do agreed with you that no one will said tube amp is the only perfect match, even the so called LS3/5A owner). And these LS3/5A fansboy (well, should called uncle) poison me to go for those original/licensed LS3/5A and 845 tube amp but not this AAA (again, I never said AAA is imitate, some other said it and I even suggest to use the word reproduce, but I did said it is open back, not like the original design). The statement such as "you don't have tube amp, what for you buy it" is not come out from me, but from one of the fansuncle.
I admitted that I am not really listen to the real LS3/5A before, less than an hour listening each time really cannot gain enough in depth on its sound signatures. I also wish that I can bring back home a set of LS3/5A but used one cost a lot.
As to this AAA, so bad I don't have opportunity to listen to it. That is why I requested others having opportunity to compare AAA & X-LS (in the same price range) side by side do add tube amp in their comparison.
However, best comparison should be this AAA vs those BBC,Stirling,Rogers etc orginal/licensed LS3/5A. Sounds like you listen to both of them, mind to share your opinion and setup here?
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Introducing X-CS Encore ...

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The Mid-Tweeter-Mid (MTM) is our new addition to the X series line of speaker since we have introduced X-LS Encore in 2013. X-CS Encore is originally meant to be a center channel to match X-LS Encore who loves multi-channel listening experience.

One of the significant fact about this speaker is the X-CS Encore is a sealed box which is attributed with slow bass roll-off and can be easily balanced with a subwoofer which provides a larger sweet spot for the low frequency crossover compared to ported speakers.

The best part is, with two units of X-CS Encore, they can be placed vertically on speaker stands functioning as stereo speaker. The on-axis listening height will deliver the smoothest sound on most listening material. We assure you that the female vocalists sounded sweet and clear, and male vocalists sounded rich and strong.

For more info, please visit

http://www.curveacoustics.com/x-cs-encore.html
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Audiofi.net has rated XLS-Encore with 5 stars.


"There was nothing to dislike about the Encores, from the sonic perspective. They serve up a generous scale, and are well-controlled and finely detailed, conveying much of the musicality inherent in a recording without fuss. Whatever your musical diet, these black boxes have a handle on it. And there’s the bass…"



Please read the full review at

http://audiofi.net/2014/08/x-ls-encore-spe...for-bass-heads/

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Since a lot of people asked me what is the use of copper cap in the woofers, here is the answer.

It is used for reduce impedance increment at high frequency and reduce the nonlinearity due to inductance modulation.
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did an upgrade on the XLS encore passive. was ask by a good fren to assist him.
overall speaker has a good built. bracing on sides, dampen, thick MDF constructions.
12/12db xover with tweeter attenuation + RC contour to give more 'airyness' and parallel resistor to dampen the impedance peak on tweeter

upgraded to sonic gen I caps and Mills resistor using 4% silver solder. parts supplied by curve.
sound: i like what i hear..

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Nice.

Any significant difference with the sonicaps?
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Nice.

Any significant difference with the sonicaps?
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Hi Chin How

I understand from Mr Lim he is finally getting a unit in to his shop. Looking forward to finally trying out the X-LS Encore.

Please extend my apologise to your friend for not taking up his invite.

Cheers
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Definitely big difference. In fact i posion the owner to upgrade further to flat copper foil inductor soak in wax for more harmonics n separation..hehe
i have removed the tweeter bypass cap 0.1uf as its not needed since the new main value caps are of similar grade unless its a sonic teflon caps.

the speaker will be at my place in PJ till this sat only. Owner taking them back. Ur welcome to drop by for an audition

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Speaker is excellent. But din like the cardboard make for the rear port..but then again at its price, cant complain much lar..
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Definitely big difference. In fact i posion the owner to upgrade further to flat copper foil inductor soak in wax for more harmonics n separation..hehe
i have removed the tweeter bypass cap 0.1uf as its not needed since the new main value caps are of similar grade unless its a sonic teflon caps.

the speaker will be at my place in PJ till this sat only. Owner taking them back. Ur welcome to drop by for an audition
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Have you done similar a similar thing to Monitor Audios Silver Speaker?

How much does something like this cost the owner?
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Hi Chin How

I understand from Mr Lim he is finally getting a unit in to his shop. Looking forward to finally trying out the X-LS Encore.

Please extend my apologise to your friend for not taking up his invite.

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Mr Lai, I visited Lim last Saturday and I have promised send him a pair for him to play with. Hopefully, it will be there this or next week.

Sorry for taking this long to settle.
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QUOTE(carcrazy @ Nov 20 2014, 12:18 AM)
Definitely big difference. In fact i posion the owner to upgrade further to flat copper foil inductor soak in wax for more harmonics n separation..hehe
i have removed the tweeter bypass cap 0.1uf as its not needed since the new main value caps are of similar grade unless its a sonic teflon caps.

the speaker will be at my place in PJ till this sat only. Owner taking them back. Ur welcome to drop by for an audition
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Wow, sound like you have brought the speaker performance to another level in term of the bass speed and detail. I am glad you like it eventually. Perhaps the next upgrade will be damping material? No-Rez, anyone?

I will definitely want to audition, too bad I am in over-the-sea-Sarawak now.

What your owner used to run the speaker?
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QUOTE(carcrazy @ Nov 20 2014, 12:25 AM)
Speaker is excellent. But din like the cardboard make for the rear port..but then again at its price, cant complain much lar..
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We have requested to change the PVC port to MDF due to sonic differences not the cost. In fact, they cost almost the same. MDF port has less resonance compared to PVC. We have a reference here from the original AV123 with PVC port, to compare with.
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Have you done similar a similar thing to Monitor Audios Silver Speaker?

How much does something like this cost the owner?
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Mr Lai, you should go and audition it, it is like once in a life time chances, rclxms.gif
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Definitely big difference. In fact i posion the owner to upgrade further to flat copper foil inductor soak in wax for more harmonics n separation..hehe
i have removed the tweeter bypass cap 0.1uf as its not needed since the new main value caps are of similar grade unless its a sonic teflon caps.

the speaker will be at my place in PJ till this sat only. Owner taking them back. Ur welcome to drop by for an audition
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victor, tomorrow after office hours around 6/7pm (taking into account leaving sunway ~5pm and traffic) how's your schedule? i'll definitely be on LDP since i am at Sunway Training.
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And Chance GRABBED!

The Speaker sounds... FANTASTIC

For THAT price range and the size the sound is AMAZING!!!

The detail, VERY TRANSPARENT!!!!

I am sure the setup had something to do with that...

Now that I have the chance to listen to the "upgraded" version, I really look forward to hearing it before the upgrade.

MR LIM!!! When is your set arriving!!!!

Seriously people, especially the ones who are looking for your first pair of Hifi speakers, seriously consider this!!!

My Two Sen
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And Chance GRABBED!

The Speaker sounds... FANTASTIC

For THAT price range and the size the sound is AMAZING!!!

The detail, VERY TRANSPARENT!!!!

I am sure the setup had something to do with that...

Now that I have the chance to listen to the "upgraded" version, I really look forward to hearing it before the upgrade.

MR LIM!!! When is your set arriving!!!!

Seriously people, especially the ones who are looking for your first pair of Hifi speakers, seriously consider this!!!

My Two Sen
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QUOTE(Mov_freak @ Nov 21 2014, 03:18 PM)
And Chance GRABBED!

The Speaker sounds... FANTASTIC

For THAT price range and the size the sound is AMAZING!!!

The detail, VERY TRANSPARENT!!!!

I am sure the setup had something to do with that...

Now that I have the chance to listen to the "upgraded" version, I really look forward to hearing it before the upgrade.

MR LIM!!! When is your set arriving!!!!

Seriously people, especially the ones who are looking for your first pair of Hifi speakers, seriously consider this!!!

My Two Sen
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Great setup!! nod.gif
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Thank you. We need to share so give ppl more options.
rather than depending on reviews whic sometimes is not accurate
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QUOTE(Mov_freak @ Nov 21 2014, 03:18 PM)
And Chance GRABBED!

The Speaker sounds... FANTASTIC

For THAT price range and the size the sound is AMAZING!!!

The detail, VERY TRANSPARENT!!!!

I am sure the setup had something to do with that...

Now that I have the chance to listen to the "upgraded" version, I really look forward to hearing it before the upgrade.

MR LIM!!! When is your set arriving!!!!

Seriously people, especially the ones who are looking for your first pair of Hifi speakers, seriously consider this!!!

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The stock crossover is a better one when compared to the original ones. You still have the smooth high, clear mid and punchy bass.

Lim is playing with the speaker now.
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Thank you. We need to share so give ppl more options.
rather than depending on reviews whic sometimes is not accurate
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I have listened to your line array at klav 2014. I thought it was really good in construction and sound.

Unfortunately, I didn't have a chance to listen to your Aphologee(sorry if I spelled it wrongly).
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Hello, can I come to your place oso? i'd love to audit others setup  biggrin.gif
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The stock crossover is a better one when compared to the original ones. You still have the smooth high, clear mid and punchy bass.

Lim is playing with the speaker now.
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Don't know if that is possible, the speaker owner is supposed to pick it up today...
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I have listened to your line array at klav 2014.  I thought it was really good in construction and sound.

Unfortunately, I didn't have a chance to listen to your Aphologee(sorry if I spelled it wrongly).
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speaker owner is here now...bringing me for a nice yummy lunch..hehe
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Seem like you are not really listen to the real LS3/5A before, even your so called LS3/5A owners, do you know why? Because no one will say tube amp is the only perfect match to the LS3/5A. And let me to repeat again, AAA JM3/5A isn't imitate the LS3/5A like what other brand did, such as Ho's, Jensen..., despite for this, the JM3/5A is using their own in-house built driver and crossover that followed their own specifications. If I'm not mistaken, the AAA the other lowyat member selling is the third generation of JM3/5A, not like what you said the obsolete 1st generation with sealed box, using the Peerless drivers. But whatever I said at here is useless if you are not listening to it before!



I do own a pair of 11 ohms and 15 ohms Rogers LS3/5a. Also a pair of Ho's LS3/5a sold it immediately when i got my XLS-Encore from Mr Bong. i also immediately reset my whole room.

what is so great about LS3/5a. i use 11ohms LS3/5a to watch TV. letting the 15ohms sleeping for almost 4 to 5yrs.
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For last than RM1400 inclusive postage to your door step. XLS-Encore is worth buying compare to many other famous UK/US brand.



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For last than RM1400 inclusive postage to your door step. XLS-Encore is worth buying compare to many other famous UK/US brand.
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Grab one for the team, and let us know what do you think,  butt! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Mov_freak @ Nov 21 2014, 03:18 PM)
And Chance GRABBED!

The Speaker sounds... FANTASTIC

For THAT price range and the size the sound is AMAZING!!!

The detail, VERY TRANSPARENT!!!!

I am sure the setup had something to do with that...

Now that I have the chance to listen to the "upgraded" version, I really look forward to hearing it before the upgrade.

MR LIM!!! When is your set arriving!!!!

Seriously people, especially the ones who are looking for your first pair of Hifi speakers, seriously consider this!!!

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wah didn't know you're a mod

can't really audition it with my own music so i'm having very reserved comments for the time being.
still hoping to audition the stock ones and compare/decide.
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Quazacolt,
u dun need a speaker, u need a S2000...lol
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if i get a pair whats a budget way to power these bad boys?
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Grab one for the team, and let us know what do you think,  butt! tongue.gif
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Been thinking about getting it for quite some times already, but still can't make up my mind.. smile.gif
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well im already spending quite a bit on the speakers so was thinking either 1/3 of the speakers price or at most maximum 1/2 the price of the speakers. So anything that's the best budget-ish bang for buck-ish!
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We have heard good result with Topping TP60, Marantz Stereo amp, any modern tube amp. It's all depend on your budget. I have a number of serious customers driving the speaker with 2x Emerald Physics EP100.SE as monoblock and the sound was stunning from high to low frequency.
Anyway, the speaker is versatile and easy to drive.
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QUOTE(siles1991 @ Nov 24 2014, 05:33 PM)
well im already spending quite a bit on the speakers so was thinking either 1/3 of the speakers price or at most maximum 1/2 the price of the speakers. So anything that's the best budget-ish bang for buck-ish!
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Usually, the speaker is the final node in the hifi chain and I would spend as much as I could on speaker. For around RM600-700, you don't have much choice except TP60.

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Usually, the speaker is the final node in the hifi chain and I would spend as much as I could on speaker. For around RM600-700, you don't have much choice except TP60.
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would it possible to power the xls with a lepai ta2020+ and a LD MKIV SE as pre amp? Just checking if there was an alternative while saving up for the TP-60.
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We have heard good result with Topping TP60, Marantz Stereo amp, any modern tube amp. It's all depend on your budget. I have a number of serious customers driving the speaker with 2x Emerald Physics EP100.SE as monoblock and the sound was stunning from high to low frequency.
Anyway, the speaker is versatile and easy to drive.
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don't mind if i ask. x-ls encore vs boston acoustics a26, which 1 more suitable if i'm more in pop, jazz, blue and soft rock genres? icon_question.gif Thank U

http://www.whathifi.com/boston-acoustics/a26/review
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don't mind if i ask. x-ls encore vs boston acoustics a26, which 1 more suitable if i'm more in pop, jazz, blue and soft rock genres?  icon_question.gif  Thank U

http://www.whathifi.com/boston-acoustics/a26/review
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in all honesty....it really depends how you pair up the entire system

by just looking at plain specs and brand comparison...its only 30% accurate

personally.....x-ls is using danish drivers...peerless to be exact....my personal taste....peerless, vifa and scanspeaks are one of my favourite speaker drivers

what gives you speaker a different twist here is your amps, cables, room factors....

i would b leaning towards x-ls encore if you ask me, esp for jazz

my future setup would like be a musical paradise KT120 class A tube amp pairing with x-ls encore....
am still figuring out how to create the stands to bring the best out of the speakers
spkr cable wise.....undecided...have to have long time listening to find the complimentary speaker cable

source is going to be pc linking to DAC.....might look at Wadia or Audio GD for the DAC job so that i can also plug in my headphones

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QUOTE(TheGardener @ Nov 27 2014, 05:48 PM)
don't mind if i ask. x-ls encore vs boston acoustics a26, which 1 more suitable if i'm more in pop, jazz, blue and soft rock genres?  icon_question.gif  Thank U

http://www.whathifi.com/boston-acoustics/a26/review
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Depends on how you look at it, some may prefer certain sound for certain genres while others may disagree. Best is to try it out before making a purchase, at least you'll know what you're getting than from reviews as their baseline reference may differ from yours.

Like @hushymushy mentioned, it's about matching a proper setup to your taste.

OT: @hushymushy have you looked at BMC puredac for a preamp/dac/headphone amp setup though they are in the pricey side?

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don't intend to have too pricey system for this setup as it is going to be my secondary setup
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Tq all.

will bring my amp over to try the speakers.. hohoho.
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How the sound quality compare with audioengine a5+?
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How the sound quality compare with audioengine a5+?
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much better, I came from Aktimate Mini which is better than ae5+

So, Xls Encore> Aktimate Mini > Ae5+
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How the sound quality compare with audioengine a5+?
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First thing, you can't defy the law of physics. The size of the driver basically give you some info already, assuming that both speakers are probably built.

Secondly, if you look at the SPL chart of XLS Encore, it is flat, aka balance and can easily pair with most of the amps.

Last, both are designed for different purposes, desktop vs big space.

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Tq all.

will bring my amp over to try the speakers.. hohoho.
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What amp are you using?
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much better, I came from Aktimate Mini which is better than ae5+

So, Xls Encore> Aktimate Mini > Ae5+
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Of courselah bro, you are using a highend power amp. The immediate different is the soundstage.

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don't intend to have too pricey system for this setup as it is going to be my secondary setup
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Hi fx20, I am planning to set up a home theatre and quite interested in the encore centre. Been thinking to set up a 7.2 system using 4 encore centre as surround. Any possible audition on it? I'm in living somewhere in ipoh perak. Thanks.
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What the selling price now,and where to test this speaker?
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Maverick audio a1
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This rated 20w show be able to drive XLS Encore. But dont expect it to be too punchy.
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What the selling price now,and where to test this speaker?
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This speaker is selling for around RM1300 now and can be auditioned at Acoustique System at Amcorp Mall.

I hope you will like its transparency.
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read a lot good review for topping tp60 & XLS Encore..

any comment this combo for MOVIE? My usage 90% music 10% movie.

tq
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read a lot good review for topping tp60 & XLS Encore..

any comment this combo for MOVIE? My usage 90% music 10% movie.

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For movie, you need 5.1.

I suggest 2 pairs of XLS encore and 1 XCS Encore.

Or 3 XCS Encore and 1 pair of XLS Encore. This setup will blow you away in term of it transparency.

For amp/avr, you can start with Marantz and Yamaha that come with Pre-outs. They future-proof your upgrade with poweramp. Frankly speaking, avr with and without power amp is day and night differences.
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Hi,

Anyone has experience pairing this with Rega Brio-r amp? Currently, I have the Usher S-520 with Brio-r and UD100 (DAC). Do you think XLS is going to be a level up and a better match? I listens to jazz and vocal.

Any feedback is appreciated.

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Hi,

Anyone has experience pairing this with Rega Brio-r amp? Currently, I have the Usher S-520 with Brio-r and UD100 (DAC). Do you think XLS is going to be a level up and a better match? I listens to jazz and vocal.

Any feedback is appreciated.

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The Brio-r is a 50w integrated amp. My experience with Rega is they are rather conservative and delivering true power. I have no experience with this amp and I believe you have no problem using this amp to drive Encore.

What do you find lacking in S-520? Looking at the woofer size I can definitely induce that it has less bass when compared to XLS Encore. My 2 cents. tongue.gif
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This rated 20w show be able to drive XLS Encore. But dont expect it to be too punchy.
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QUOTE(fx20 @ Dec 2 2014, 10:48 AM)
The Brio-r is a 50w integrated amp. My experience with Rega is they are rather conservative and delivering true power. I have no experience with this amp and I believe you have no problem using this amp to drive Encore.

What do you find lacking in S-520? Looking at the woofer size I can definitely induce that it has less bass when compared to XLS Encore. My 2 cents.  tongue.gif
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Yes, bass area. rclxms.gif

What is the sound characteristic of X-LS? Neutral, bright or dark. I find S-520 slightly on the clinical side (tad of bright so to speak). Just want to know how both compare and what sound to expect if I were to change. brows.gif

Cheers.
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Yes, bass area.  rclxms.gif

What is the sound characteristic of X-LS? Neutral, bright or dark. I find S-520 slightly on the clinical side (tad of bright so to speak). Just want to know how both compare and what sound to expect if I were to change.  brows.gif

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If you looked at XLS Encore SPL,

http://www.curveacoustics.com/x-ls-encore.html

it is meant to be balanced. To me it offers ample transparency that you will normally get on speakers priced at RM3k and above. What this transparency will deliver to you are nice separation, wider soundstage and rich overall timbre, make the speaker very easy to be paired with most of the amp.
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sounds like under-utilized to pair this speaker with maverick a1
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Frankly, the main selling point of XLS Encore is its bass.
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Both of you can do an audition at Amcorp Mall's Acoustique System. I have a a pair stationed there right now.
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BTW, we are working on a really good amp in USA right now, it is 200w each channel, with optional bluetooth streaming and 5-band equalizer.

Preliminary test was mind blowing. It is a perfect match for Encore. Priced around USD500-600.

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QUOTE(fx20 @ Dec 2 2014, 04:22 PM)
BTW, we are working on a really good amp in USA right now, it is 200w each channel, with optional bluetooth streaming and 5-band equalizer.

Preliminary test was mind blowing. It is a perfect match for Encore. Priced around USD500-600.

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Mana... MANA!!!? laugh.gif Can Monoblock?
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Mana... MANA!!!? laugh.gif Can Monoblock?
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This one I pretty sure can't switch to monoblock. If you want the option to switch between stereo and mono, then u can opt for Emwrald Physics ep100.2se.
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QUOTE(fx20 @ Dec 1 2014, 12:28 PM)
This speaker is selling for around RM1300 now and can be auditioned at Acoustique System at Amcorp Mall.

I hope you will like its transparency.
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Then i will be going on tomorrow hehe thx
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Then i will be going on tomorrow hehe thx
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I see....im bassy head. Gonna take "that" combination smile.gif

How about subwoofer progress bro?
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fx20....can the amp you mentioned....comes in just power amp? without the pre stage

and with XLR inputs?
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