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Hi-Fi Audiophile Bookshelf Speaker: X-LS Encore, Rated 5-star from audiofi.net

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burdiespooler
post Jun 22 2014, 12:39 PM

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Most people use Tube amp to drive LS3/5a which they claimed is the better setup than pairing with SS amp. May I suggest the comparison of both speakers to be conducted under both SS and tube amp? at least under fair basis.
The AAA JM3/5a selling by another lowyat reseller in fact is 'obsoleted'product, the taiwan company introduced second edition some time ago (yes the one dropped to NT8999), but with Open Back design which betray the original design philosophy.
I have asked a few LS3/5a owner (regardless Roger/Kef etc) about this triple A imitate (or can we use reproduce) performance, none of them 'encourage' me to buy it, by giving reason such as "better buy well known or original brand" "you get what you pay for, in other word cheap does not guarantee quality" and the killing/cooling statement like "you don't have tube amp, what for you buy it".
Well, after cooling off for quite some time, i come across this Encore and almost buy from GR-Research (if not because of custom duty and the expensive courier charges....) But luckily I found one selling at Malaysia.
After having Encore for few months, I would say i love it more than my other price double speaker, especially after adding tube buffer (poor man tube setup). I don't know how to use those audio term to describe it (as all are personal judgement) but i like it more with tube buffer.
My fellow Encore owner here, have any of you mob the cap and resistor at the crossover? (FX20 might not agree). I kind of itchy want to upgrade the cap to sonicap (widely use by oversea Encore owner) or may be Mundorf cap... Please share here..
burdiespooler
post Jun 23 2014, 04:05 PM

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Compare cost I think changing cap still a lot cheaper. Sonicap is about USD100 for two crossover, Mundorf MCap supreme may be USD200 or more (depend what value of cap), but it is still cheaper than adding DSP (wow DSP 2.4 retail price is.. USD850). Some more DSP is still another processor digitally alter the sound, whereas changing cap normally stick to the same value or little change of value (e.g. 0.22up to 0.33up) and hopping that the quality of the cap or the material used (MKS, MKT, FKP or MKP, with gold inside, Taiwan cap vs German cap etc) shall improve/smooth/make worse (whatever you called it) the sound but with signature intact.
Furthermore, cap/resistor upgrading (extend it to tube rolling, opamps swapping) with positive result will bring self-satisfaction.
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post Jul 17 2014, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(feelfree @ Jul 15 2014, 03:08 PM)
Seem like you are not really listen to the real LS3/5A before, even your so called LS3/5A owners, do you know why? Because no one will say tube amp is the only perfect match to the LS3/5A. And let me to repeat again, AAA JM3/5A isn't imitate the LS3/5A like what other brand did, such as Ho's, Jensen..., despite for this, the JM3/5A is using their own in-house built driver and crossover that followed their own specifications. If I'm not mistaken, the AAA the other lowyat member selling is the third generation of JM3/5A, not like what you said the obsolete 1st generation with sealed box, using the Peerless drivers. But whatever I said at here is useless if you are not listening to it before!
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@feelfree, please re-read my post, I am not using those words that you implied that I saying them
I am not the owner of LS3/5A, the so called LS3/5A owners never listened to this AAA before. What they advise me is to get tube amp for LS3/5A (especially 845) as it is "better match" than SS amp (to clarify, I didn't said perfect match in my previous post but I do agreed with you that no one will said tube amp is the only perfect match, even the so called LS3/5A owner). And these LS3/5A fansboy (well, should called uncle) poison me to go for those original/licensed LS3/5A and 845 tube amp but not this AAA (again, I never said AAA is imitate, some other said it and I even suggest to use the word reproduce, but I did said it is open back, not like the original design). The statement such as "you don't have tube amp, what for you buy it" is not come out from me, but from one of the fansuncle.
I admitted that I am not really listen to the real LS3/5A before, less than an hour listening each time really cannot gain enough in depth on its sound signatures. I also wish that I can bring back home a set of LS3/5A but used one cost a lot.
As to this AAA, so bad I don't have opportunity to listen to it. That is why I requested others having opportunity to compare AAA & X-LS (in the same price range) side by side do add tube amp in their comparison.
However, best comparison should be this AAA vs those BBC,Stirling,Rogers etc orginal/licensed LS3/5A. Sounds like you listen to both of them, mind to share your opinion and setup here?

 

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