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TSbiatche
post Oct 8 2012, 08:27 AM, updated 14y ago

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Discussion on gems, rates, conspiracies and great snipes






What's up with the price on those gems (radiant star)

I can't think of any other reason than that they are duped. What other theories are possible?

This post has been edited by biatche: Oct 12 2012, 02:44 PM
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post Oct 8 2012, 08:47 AM

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maybe u can refer this topic http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2402709
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post Oct 8 2012, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(biatche @ Oct 8 2012, 08:27 AM)
What's up with the price on those gems (radiant star)

I can't think of any other reason than that they are duped. What other theories are possible?
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I see no problem with the price. Demand and supply.
Amethyst is dirt cheap now.

What do you mean by they duped? Theories?
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post Oct 8 2012, 09:28 AM

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I like them to be priced that way. I don't want it to be like 'rubbish' like the ones in D2 LOD.

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post Oct 8 2012, 09:58 AM

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its priced below production cost. so yes tehre is a problem with price. would you make a radiant star and sell 8mil and like the price?
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post Oct 8 2012, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(biatche @ Oct 8 2012, 09:58 AM)
its priced below production cost. so yes tehre is a problem with price. would you make a radiant star and sell 8mil and like the price?
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yeah something fishy going on. i have seen people posting radiant star prices on the asian server which cost about 1m plus
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post Oct 8 2012, 10:10 AM

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I suspect that the seller are putting the wrong pricing.
Even without taking the cost of ToS+gem (assume you loot 729 flawless sq & 1631 ToS) radiant star should cost 15.4mil.
perfect star @ 8mil is reasonable.
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post Oct 8 2012, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Oct 8 2012, 10:10 AM)
I suspect that the seller are putting the wrong pricing.
Even without taking the cost of ToS+gem (assume you loot 729 flawless sq & 1631 ToS) radiant star should cost 15.4mil.
perfect star @ 8mil is reasonable.
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Supply and demand. The price floats.

Some people buy gears that come with radiant star gems.
They don't need the gems since they have already got the gems.
They sell it instead.
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post Oct 8 2012, 10:21 AM

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aleune:
supply and demand? how about you produce me a radiant star gem of any kind from picked up gems and sell it to me at market price now


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post Oct 8 2012, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(biatche @ Oct 8 2012, 10:21 AM)
aleune:
supply and demand? how about you produce me a radiant star gem of any kind from picked up gems and sell it to me at market price now
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yeah agree. take a look at THIS then u shall see if it is supply or demand hahahaha
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post Oct 8 2012, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(biatche @ Oct 8 2012, 10:21 AM)
aleune:
supply and demand? how about you produce me a radiant star gem of any kind from picked up gems and sell it to me at market price now
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There are many reasons people sell it cheap.
1) They got the gems from the purchase of gears. They don't need those gems and sell it for 9-10m. A very good way to get back some gold.
2) Some people decided to change characters and sold off the gems and gears.

It is cheaper to get Radiant star now (than crafting).
You can easily get the gems at AH now.
True story. Wanna dispute that?

P/S I am a jewel crafter too. I can craft all gems up to radiant star, except emerald.
I don't see a problem to buy gems (if it is cheaper than making one).

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post Oct 8 2012, 10:31 AM

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1. How about you place a gem in a gear and sell it to me below gem cost then?
2. Yes, changing changing char yet they would sell off their green gems. at 10m. 1m on asian server.
3. I'm not asking if it is cheaper to buy gems off AH / RMAH. I'm not asking to be told if it's cheaper to buy gems off AH / RMAH. I KNOW it's cheaper to buy it off AH than to produce it which is why i'm asking. I'm asking for theories to why its cheap.
4. I'm not going to dispute your supply and demand theory because it's well thought out genius level -- just pure utmost incredible intelligence. Thanks for participating.


Added on October 8, 2012, 10:35 am
QUOTE(Wazzzap @ Oct 8 2012, 10:23 AM)
yeah agree. take a look at THIS then u shall see if it is supply or demand hahahaha
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It's ridiculous. Even if people are quiting the game, who would sell for a mil gold, which is probably enough to feed an insect.

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post Oct 8 2012, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(biatche @ Oct 8 2012, 10:31 AM)
1. How about you place a gem in a gear and sell it to me below gem cost then?
2. Yes, changing changing char yet they would sell off their green gems. at 10m. 1m on asian server.
3. I'm not asking if it is cheaper to buy gems off AH / RMAH. I'm not asking to be told if it's cheaper to buy gems off AH / RMAH. I KNOW it's cheaper to buy it off AH than to produce it which is why i'm asking.  I'm asking for theories to why its cheap.
4. I'm not going to dispute your supply and demand theory because it's well thought out genius level -- just pure utmost incredible intelligence. Thanks for participating.
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1. It happens all the time. I sold my Ouroboros amulet with 50 DEX gem for 2-3 million. I don't need the amulet. Posted many times but no people bid. I just sold it cheap.

2. I don't see a problem. If you think items in Asian server are cheap, you can play in Asian server. It is a game afterall. You still get fun playing. (I haven't seen 1m radiant star in US server. Waiting patiently for the day to come).

3. It is cheap for many reasons. Demand and supply. People don't need it. People sell it cheap. Botters. It is good for both buyer and seller. Win-win situation. And there is no issue.

4. Let the price tell you the story. Simple as that.

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post Oct 8 2012, 10:44 AM

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err..so buy now when its cheap..or dont buy coz its gonna be cheaper ? (US Server)
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post Oct 8 2012, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(HaRuaN.X @ Oct 8 2012, 10:44 AM)
err..so buy now when its cheap..or dont buy coz its gonna be cheaper ? (US Server)
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The plans of radiant star are dirt cheap too.
I just grabbed Amethyst and Topaz radiant star plan yesterday, 900K and 1.2m respectively.
(since it's cheaper to buy than craft now. I think the demand for the plan is not good and thus cheap price).

Emerald radiant star plan is the last piece of jigsaw I need.
Hope I can get it below 2m.

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post Oct 8 2012, 11:03 AM

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Better buy from ah, too cheap now..
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post Oct 8 2012, 11:52 AM

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On the EU servers, the emeralds (radiant star) are priced at 23 mil and the plans are at 9.5mil. Is it cheaper over at the US server?
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post Oct 8 2012, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Oct 8 2012, 10:56 AM)
The plans of radiant star are dirt cheap too.
I just grabbed Amethyst and Topaz radiant star plan yesterday, 900K and 1.2m respectively.
(since it's cheaper to buy than craft now. I think the demand for the plan is not good and thus cheap price).

Emerald radiant star plan is the last piece of jigsaw I need.
Hope I can get it below 2m.
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oh yea? I just left all the radiant star plan... gonna grab by tonight
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QUOTE(2890 @ Oct 8 2012, 11:52 AM)
On the EU servers, the emeralds (radiant star) are priced at 23 mil and the plans are at 9.5mil. Is it cheaper over at the US server?
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In us, radiant star green only 13m, perfect star around 3.6m...
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post Oct 8 2012, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Oct 8 2012, 10:36 AM)
1. It happens all the time. I sold my Ouroboros amulet with 50 DEX gem for 2-3 million. I don't need the amulet. Posted many times but no people bid. I just sold it cheap.

2. I don't see a problem. If you think items in Asian server are cheap, you can play in Asian server. It is a game afterall. You still get fun playing. (I haven't seen 1m radiant star in US server. Waiting patiently for the day to come).

3. It is cheap for many reasons. Demand and supply. People don't need it. People sell it cheap. Botters. It is good for both buyer and seller. Win-win situation. And there is no issue.

4. Let the price tell you the story. Simple as that.
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1. Smart of you. Smarter of others to buy it.
2. Produced at 15.4-17.5m to sell at 1m. We're talking about theories and not about where we play. This topic is about Gem price theory, not casual its a game afterall talk. Fun to some, not so fun to others it's subjective if you do understand that subjectivity exists. Once again, topic is about gem price theory.
3. Once again, please stay on topic. It's cheap for many reasons -- MANY to you means demand & supply??
4. Price is derived from many factors, as you quoted 'many reasons'. It's not as simple as that. I have reason to raise an eyebrow on his price, and many will agree. You are firm on clever theory -- demand and supply, Economics 9090002.5.. so thanks for your input. Would be good to hear others now. Good thing someone pasted a worthless link earlier on 1m rates and actually a discussion on it.. of which many idiots didn't even figure out this demand and supply part. So now I have more opinions. I like many opinions... but i like your demand and supply opinion, no, firm theory the most.


Added on October 8, 2012, 1:13 pmoh yah, so when can i buy a 5m radiant star gem from you? I want it produced with your love.

This post has been edited by biatche: Oct 8 2012, 01:13 PM

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